Does the Galaxy S3 (I747) push email using IMAP? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Hello,
I am trying to find out a bit more about email push, IMAP and the S3.
Every time I setup my IMAP email accounts, the setup process asks what will the polling time be. Why would we have to set this up when IMAP works with push? We don't have to pull email... unless the S3 does not support push email...
Or, maybe I am setting it wrong?
I have 7 or 8 email addresses and all are going through GMAIL at the moment (setup as labels), and Gmail does a very good job pushing emails... but the back end still calls the email services through POP... so it's not really push at all... plus I can't add Yahoo to it.
Before anyone says "oh well, keep using the gmail app, then!", I am a firm believer in using stock apps first so that I don't have to add layer after layer of applications to do one single task... and if I have a stock email app, that's the one I want to use.
Thanks for your help!

Maildroid works very well in setting up email for push or pull email. No, it's not the stock app, but it will handle multiple email accounts with each account having it's own settings. One account doesn't have to have the same settings as the others.

mrhaley30705 said:
Maildroid works very well in setting up email for push or pull email. No, it's not the stock app, but it will handle multiple email accounts with each account having it's own settings. One account doesn't have to have the same settings as the others.
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Thank you, I will try it. I tried k9 but it looks outdated, and it makes a huge contrast with the S3 looks...

Does anyone have any news on this subject?
Push email was available on the native S2 email client.
I also vote for native apps first.
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The native email client does not support IMAP idle. It only offers interval polling. If you're on Exchange, push does work but only with the active sync protocol.

I gave it a try to exchange with my gmail account. It does push but it uses more data and more battery than on the S2 by keeping the phone awake 5min/8h, when it was less than 1min/8h.
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Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
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You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW

Galaxy Nexus and PUSH EMAIL.

As title.
Where is the push email support for non gmail account?
There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.
gokpog said:
There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.
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really disappointed from this "revolutionary" ICS.
That's what gmail is for.
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kangxi said:
That's what gmail is for.
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gmail is for personal use, I have other emails with PUSH support but
my phone doesn't support it.
Set up you gmail account through exchange
falconeight said:
Set up you gmail account through exchange
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please understand what we are talking about.
Set your other account to forward to a gmail account. You can even set the Gmail account to reply from the "professional" account. Or set up a Google Apps account with your business domain.
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If it's exchange you're looking for, touchdown supports push. I've been using it for years it works well.
What type of account is this?
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i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.
I'm disappointed that Gmail doesn't have push using the email app. There's push support on the iPhone, so why not on a native Google device?
The AOSP email app has support for exchange.
JCopernicus said:
The AOSP email app has support for exchange.
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Thank you for clarifying. This whole thread just freaked me out. IMAP? Who cares! But, Exchange? Yes please!
cpcrazyfly said:
i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.
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I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
Kaiten Mail
Check out Kaiten Mail. Based off K9 email, but I think it works better, and works great on tablets too.
https://market.android.com/details?...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5rYWl0ZW5tYWlsIl0.
mfive said:
I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.
mfive said:
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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The iPhone doesn't support PUSH (aka IMAP IDLE) for IMAP email servers. I'm positive it doesn't do it for the native email (my wife has an iPhone), can't say if there's an email client app that supports, but I want to say no since iOS will kill any background running app like that.
Get K9 mail for Android, I used it a lot a couple years ago via IMAP (before switching to Gmail full time), worked great for instant notifications.
JCopernicus said:
You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.
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the email must support push email (IMAP idle) but the client must support that too.
my own server supports IMAP idle, I use the push service on every phone but it does not work on my galaxy nexus.
I must admit that android is only a soap bubble, you can't say that android is an advanced OS when it lacks the basic feature of feature phones.
I could've sworn I had a stock Email app on my Droid Charge at one point that was push. It was awesome. There has to be a stock or AOSP Email app apk out there somewhere that we can use.
Galaxy Sll email app has it...maybe someone can port it.
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Gmail users...Gmail app or Stock email app?

Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
OmegaDog said:
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
jhericurls said:
I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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Personal preference. I like keeping my inboxes separate. Also, I'm fairly certain the stock email app doesn't handle Gmail-specific functions such as importance markers, priority inbox, and labels.
OmegaDog said:
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
Gmail app, hands down. You're going to miss so many functions compared to the basic email app.
I didn't even know there was a stock email app..
Gmail all the way.
Gmail of course. Never even touched the stock Email app on any phone I've had.
I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
Gmail no doubt about it
chirea.mircea said:
I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
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I wish Google would put all of its efforts into just creating one amazing email app instead of two ok apps. I need Exchange support so I'm forced to use both apps and honestly, neither compares to the experience I had on Windows Phone... Search was much better and faster on Windows Phone as well. The main advantage to Gmail app is the labels function, after that the clients in Androids competitors win in speed, zoom and ability to change views like swipe to view all unread messages, and swipe again to view starred messages.
Stock Gmail preferred, but have to use both since Yahoo won't connect to Gmail unless you pay them a premium fee. Yahoo account is basically collecting spam and an occasional message from someone who hasn't updated their contact list in a while. And c2dm is more timely and battery efficient than scheduled polling and sync.
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hmm well I have been using the stock email app forever. Mainly because I needed exchange support, first for school and now for work. But I got tired of exchange hogging the battery so I just have all my emails forwarded now to my gmail account. Might have to give it a try.
Seeing as I only use Gmail on my phone the Gmail app does the job (and I delete the stock app as I never use it)
Lol I freeze the stock mail app first time I flash a rom
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Using both apps here.
Gmail app for my "real" email and stock for Yahoo and Exchange.
What's the stock email app?
Geezer Squid said:
Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
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My god man. I never knew this.:laugh: Set this up in a matter of minutes. Thanks for this.:good:
Have you guys ever had a look at the gmail app for the iphone? It is gorgeous! And same functionality as well. Ours works very well but I would like to see a little UI overhaul
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jhericurls said:
I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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I pull other accounts into my main Gmail account, so everything ends up there (e-mails from other accounts automatically get labeled accordingly), and I can access everything through the Gmail app on my phone.

[Q] - IMAP push email?

Does anyone know of a good email client optimized for ICS that supports IMAP push notifications for email? I don't understand why the only push email support is GMail.
1) gmail push is not the only one. exchange is push as well.
2) i have heard k9 does, but ive never used it.
From my experience K9 uses push... I used it on Gingerbread. There was no polling option and through testing I determined that push did work. Haven't used it since upgrading to the Nexus though, the gmail app is really nice and I mainly use gmail accounts.
I use K9 email for imap idle (like push). It works well and is as fast at retrieving new emails as the push on gmail.
+1 for k9, works fine for me and has push and polling, you can tweak these settings and for any folder or sub folders to the nth degree
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Just got Push Email working for 2 of my gmail accounts - the one I use to sync all my contacts/calendar/etc. and another one for just emails.
Remove the IMAP account for your gmail account. Leave the Google account, but disable email syncing on it.
Add a new Exchange (Corporate) account.
Fill in your email address @google.com and your password (app-specific password, if you're using Authenticator).
Change the exchange server from "gmail.com" to "m.google.com".
Leave all other exchange settings as-is
You'll now get push notifications using the EMail app!
Verified on my Galaxy Nexus and my Transformer Prime.

[Q] Email in one place?

No matter where I look, I can't seem to find any one application that properly supports what I want to do...
I primarily use Gmail and Hotmail for email, and I'd like push access to both. The Gmail app supports push, but only for Gmail accounts, the stock Email app (CM9) supports ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, but no push for Gmail. I tried K-9 mail and it supports Gmail push, but can't do ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, forcing me to use POP3, which doesn't have push, or server sync.
Is there any single email app that will fully support both IMAP IDLE for Gmail and ActiveSync Exchange for Hotmail?
the stock mail app supports gmail push. did you try setting it up manually?
chuman72486 said:
No matter where I look, I can't seem to find any one application that properly supports what I want to do...
I primarily use Gmail and Hotmail for email, and I'd like push access to both. The Gmail app supports push, but only for Gmail accounts, the stock Email app (CM9) supports ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, but no push for Gmail. I tried K-9 mail and it supports Gmail push, but can't do ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, forcing me to use POP3, which doesn't have push, or server sync.
Is there any single email app that will fully support both IMAP IDLE for Gmail and ActiveSync Exchange for Hotmail?
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By nature microsoft exchange is the only push email. Gmail is only push with that app because it has constant data connection to google servers best thing google ever did. Hotmail or any other free emails are not push so your sol
Try Maildroid.
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chuman72486 said:
No matter where I look, I can't seem to find any one application that properly supports what I want to do...
I primarily use Gmail and Hotmail for email, and I'd like push access to both. The Gmail app supports push, but only for Gmail accounts, the stock Email app (CM9) supports ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, but no push for Gmail. I tried K-9 mail and it supports Gmail push, but can't do ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, forcing me to use POP3, which doesn't have push, or server sync.
Is there any single email app that will fully support both IMAP IDLE for Gmail and ActiveSync Exchange for Hotmail?
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You can set up your gmail accounts in the stock email app as exchange accounts. Just do a google search for "gmail exchange setup" for directions. Then you can set them up for push.
Edit: better yet, here's a link: http://www.mobilityminded.com/13093/how-to-set-up-your-google-gmail-account-as-a-corporate-exchange-account-on-your-mobile-device/
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amateurhack said:
You can set up your gmail accounts in the stock email app as exchange accounts. Just do a google search for "gmail exchange setup" for directions. Then you can set them up for push.
Edit: better yet, here's a link: http://www.mobilityminded.com/13093...orate-exchange-account-on-your-mobile-device/
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By default on android gmail is push no need to setup as exchange account. If your hotmail is a free account you will not be able to set it up as push no matter what you do.
jbadboy2007 said:
By default on android gmail is push no need to setup as exchange account. If your hotmail is a free account you will not be able to set it up as push no matter what you do.
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Actually when Hotmail is set as an exchange server, it gets Push, free or not.
However, if I try to set up Gmail as exchange in the stock Email app, it says it's not a supported protocol.
I was in a similar shoe as OP.
Originally, I had multiple accounts pushed to the phone but learned that it's more efficient to aggregate all emails including work emails to 1 gmail acct. Gmail app will use the correct email address when I reply. And it saves battery.
Well I tried setting up Gmail as an ActiveSync exchange account and while it seems to work at first, it keeps reporting an incorrect username or password. I've verified both and even tried the Captcha auth step I've seen online and it keeps giving errors.
Add your hotmail email into your gmail settings using pop 3 and then all your hotmail will goto your gmail that's what I do fir 4 different emails
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davidrules7778 said:
Add your hotmail email into your gmail settings using pop 3 and then all your hotmail will goto your gmail that's what I do fir 4 different emails
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Except that POP3 can't do Push, so it won't work for my needs.
As it is right now, I get push email in the Gmail app for my Gmail address and push email in the Email app for my Hotmail account. I saw that Gmail can be used as an ActiveSync exchange account like Hotmail can, so my hope is to just use the Email app for both accounts.
Can you do with yahoo? Would love to have my gmail and yahoo!
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It looks like it worked, I now have Gmail set as an exchange server in the stock Email app, along with Hotmail, both getting Push and server sync.
chuman72486 said:
Actually when Hotmail is set as an exchange server, it gets Push, free or not.
However, if I try to set up Gmail as exchange in the stock Email app, it says it's not a supported protocol.
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That's interesting. I have 3 gmail accounts all set up with exchange sync. I think you might have set it up incorrectly.
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jbadboy2007 said:
By default on android gmail is push no need to setup as exchange account. If your hotmail is a free account you will not be able to set it up as push no matter what you do.
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It only pushes to the gmail app. If you set up a gmail account on the stock email app, it will set it up through imap, but the app doesn't support imap idle push.
Google set up the exchange sync to deal with the iPhone, which doesn't support imap push either.
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So, just to make sure we have everyone doing the same thing:
How to set up a gmail account for Exchange push:
(I am using CM9, Android 4.0.4, so the steps may be slightly different on a different rom. However, I have had thbis set-up work on stock Android 2.2 and 2.3)
Go to seetings> accounts and sync
Select add new
Select Corporate/Exchange
Enter your gmail address and password
Select next
Your phone will attempt an automatic setup. This may take a little while.
On the next screen, on the line that says domain/username enter:
gmail.com/[your username]
Now this is the most important step that gets missed most often. Ont the line that says server enter:
m.google.com
Notice that says google, not gmail.
Select next, and choose your other various preferences.
To make sure your email is set to push, go to settings for that account, and under data usage and email check frequency, select push.
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chuman72486 said:
Except that POP3 can't do Push, so it won't work for my needs.
As it is right now, I get push email in the Gmail app for my Gmail address and push email in the Email app for my Hotmail account. I saw that Gmail can be used as an ActiveSync exchange account like Hotmail can, so my hope is to just use the Email app for both accounts.
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Ya it does just u need to have lots of email traffic going through it and then it will check it pretty regular and push it to gmail it has work fir me the last 3 years, but your way sound good too
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chuman72486 said:
No matter where I look, I can't seem to find any one application that properly supports what I want to do...
I primarily use Gmail and Hotmail for email, and I'd like push access to both. The Gmail app supports push, but only for Gmail accounts, the stock Email app (CM9) supports ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, but no push for Gmail. I tried K-9 mail and it supports Gmail push, but can't do ActiveSync exchange for Hotmail, forcing me to use POP3, which doesn't have push, or server sync.
Is there any single email app that will fully support both IMAP IDLE for Gmail and ActiveSync Exchange for Hotmail?
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Hello,
Here is your solution: Set up your gmail account from stock email application as exchange account. Please find the details from the following link:
http://www.mobilityminded.com/13093...orate-exchange-account-on-your-mobile-device/
It worked in my Galaxy note10.1 perfect.
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