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Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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i disagree with point #5
i think the evo looks ok minus the circle buttons, the desire is freakin sexy
its NOT ...
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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0. Who cares about 4G, more importantly, WHO HAVE 4G right now?
1. Display is TFT (NOT better than AMOLED!). more than 4.0 inches, too large, you might as well carry a laptop instead of this.
2. Who cares about cameras in phones? get SE Satio 12 MP with xenon flash if you care about Cameras in phones
3. camera again? who cares? and the HD recording is rumoured for the Desire too.
4. ok, maybe thats a point for Evo
5. I disagree, this point is personal taste anyways, not better or worst
I don't think this will work on GSM phone, no, it won't work.
And I won't pick any phone without AMOLED screen at least (Samsung SUPER AMOLED is better though).
More megapixel camera is useless with that tiny sensor, believe me on this. It is better to have less megapixel under the same sensor size.
Samsung Galaxy S with its 4" SUPER AMOLED is quite ideal for me, but I don't like the software, the hardware (too rounded) and ... Samsung
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
gogol said:
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
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Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
well~~~I won't choose EVO too many problem for now
It will be at least two kind of 4G chip and count less 4G ISP
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
Wow, I was all set to preorder my desire today - then this pops up!
Anyone know if we're likely to see a UK release? I'm just about to email HTC to ask.
Not necessarily end of the year to be honest ... It could be the same day with iPhone 4G
That would be awesome day!
AaronJoYee said:
Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
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Well, I got a (pretty unhelpful) reply from HTC about a UK release of the Supersonic.
Dear Paul
Thank you for contacting us.
At the moment we won't comment on future products releases before an official statement but we suggest to follow us on our social networks (Facebook, Twitter) or consult periodically our website for the latest news on our products.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Best regards,
Pedro S.
HTC
wow
This is the device I want. I am torn now between the Desire and Evo. Worst thing that could happen is I order the desire and next month the evo gets a UK release......
You won't be seeing a european release of this for quite a while
Sprint getting it summer 2010 - and it's a CDMA device.. So no GSM for us..
HTC Desire also seems to be more of the focus for europe - Evo is more focusing on new network technology. Hense 4G .
I'd go for the HTC Desire - even if this does come to europe - it'll be 9-12 months before it does.
HDMI out? I struggle to see the point
To anyone outside the US Complaining:
THE EVO IS COMPLETLY USELESS FOR YOU!
WiMax will not be deployed in (most) European Countrys
The evo does not support GSM, CDMA is used nowhere in Europe or the rest of the world execpt US!
I would like to have Desire a lot actually. I see all the benefits but actually the only thing that i have doubts now, is the fact that it took them 4g phone to introduce front facing camera on the android.
yeah, i understand why you might think why would i need front facing camera, but i would like the possibility to use for skype, fring, free video call.
720p - well, its not real concern, because its more of a an extra feature than necessity.
8mp camera with 2 lights --- also if you take photos with your phone it still wont be the quality of dsrl camera.
i think the screen is too big for everyday use, of course there are benefits of using extra screen size, but then again you use a netbook for that, then normal laptop... then tv and finally imax experiance
4g is also a nice feature but its still has a bit to go, about 2 years before its full implemented, so by that time new-better phones will be out.
the rest is been said already.
To be honest I think the Evo looks a bit fat compared to the HD2 which I currently own. I have a Desire on Preorder and having owned a 4.3" device I'm happy to scale down my screen size for screen quality. Think of it like a tv - would you swap your Samsung 42" LED tv for a 46" LCD of similar general spec? I know I wouldn't. Browsing will be splendid on the Desire.
Supposedly 720p DivX and video recording will be on the Desire at launch or thereafter. Not so bothered about the video recording side but im sure if the Evo can play Divx up to 720p someone will find how to enable it on other snapdragon based Android devices in no time.
HDMI out is of no interest to me whatsoever and will no doubt necessitate a 30 dollar cable.
Better camera? HTC cameras are all crap anyway; i'd happily keep a 5mp christmas cracker lens and have the option of a decent loudspeaker like Nokia and iPhone 3g owners get.
shaneaus said:
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Coming from a fellow Texan...I couldn't agree with you more! They completely FAILED big time with the Backflip and Dell Aero (or whatever that P.O.S. is called).
2 more days of CTIA and I am keeping my fingers crossed that something is mentioned about the Desire & AT&T
shaneaus said:
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Totally agree here, tech is never gonna stop. We can't get us up2date stuff,
by the time we get what we DESIRE most, there will be another mouth-watering thing in news...
So best option as my friend says above is LEARN TO ENJOY WHAT U HAVE GOT NOW...plus (my suggestion)... start saving 4 next
wish list.
I think the EVO is ugly.
There is no point in more than 1 megapixel camera for most people. The latest phones have less than 1million pixel screens and even average computer screens only just exceed a million pixels. How many of your phone photos have you printed? Also phones are still using CMOS sensors and the point above about a lower resolution being better is correct. It means less red and blue sensor noise in the images when displayed on a larger screen such as on your PC. This is caused by the sensor over amplifying due to the tiny amount of light coming in through the tiny aperture.
There is no GSM support so no sim card. When you have finished with the phone it is a door stop!
There is one area with experimental 4g in the UK (Just outside Slough) and they switch it off when they are not testing it. We will NOT see 4g until some bandwidth becomes available, this will happen when the terrestrial TV signal swiches off freeing up 800MHz. This wont happen until around your next upgrade anyway (2012) and by then there will be even better 4g devices to choose from.
Also in the video of the EVO the cammera is demonstrated, frankly, it sucks, there is a light sorce in the back ground (Probably a window) and it whites out completely, so much show I am not 100% sure that the light sorce is a window as you cant see a thing, this happenes on both the still shot and the video. The desire most definately does support 800x480 video which, believe it or not, constitutes HD (anything with more than 425 lines is defined as HD)
Capasitive buttons are not good IMHO.
4+ inch screen are just too big, I have played with the HD2 and is is just too big in your pocket!
And seriously, think about it, when are you going to use an HDMI output, I have a PC and Blu-Ray at home and I cant see too many esablishment letting me plug my phone into their HDTV, I can't even imagine my friends would be over the moon about me turning up with my new phone and insisting on connecting it to the back of their telly either, it seems pointless, something you would try out, think it was cool and then never use ever again.
Dont loose any sleep over this phone, 4g is it's only +point and we have no network for some time to come!
With regard to the 8 MP camera: I wonder all the time whether the Desire will have the same camera chip as the HD2? In the tweaks threads on the HD2 it is said that the HD2 camera by means of just the software has been limited to 5 MP, but that it is an 8 MP chip. In order to achieve cost reduction by great numbers, HTC might build the same camera chip into all models - HD2, Desire, N1, Evo - and only the Evo is heralded to have an 8 MP camera?
The similar question applies to the WiFi functionality, where the HD2 also has 802.11n (not b/g only).
In the end, the difference between Desire and Evo appears to be limited to the (currently use- and senseless, to my opinion) 4G capability plus the HDMI out plus the HD2-like size of the Evo. Not reason to feel sorry for the Desire, really.
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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1. That is one of the reasons I am leaving the HD2: 4.3 inch is to big. After a few months of using I found out that 4.3 inch is nice, but it is not necessary. I rather have a 3.7 - 4.0 inch screen that I can much better use with one hand, while still having almost the same experience I have with my 4.3 inch screen.
2. Yes, indeed that is true. Not a huge problem though, the 5 mp camera's on the Desire/HD2/Nexus One make good pictures and decent video's for my needs.
3. I really do not care about that, at all! And it was rumored that it would come to the Desire as well.
4. Again, I do not care about that.
5. I don't know about that. It looks kind of big, and it is not as 'curved' as the Desire. IMO they both look just as nice, but they both have different styles.
I myself thought for a second if the EVO 4G was not a better choice, but quickly knew the answer to that. For me, the Desire is still on top. I think the 3.7 inch (AMOLED btw, much nicer) will suite me better. And the EVO does not really offer anything else that I really need.
And I live in Europe. So that means case closed, as the EVO 4G is meant for Sprint in the US.
Ok so I got a legend, freakin cool phone. Had the opportunity to upgrade to desire for free so of course I took it. Now don't get me wrong, of course the desire is a 'better' phone, but I cannot help but notice that build is soooo much better on the legend. Now most of you will say of course, it is aluminum, but it's not just that.
1) Probably the most annoying, the screen on the legend destroys the desire. It shouldn't on paper, but believe me it does. The pentile matrix vs no pentile matrix is abundantly clear.
2) I am terrified of dust getting under the screen because i can see the gap between the screen and phone and am constantly making sure I clear dust from it. On the legend the screen is sealed to the side of the phone.
3) Well obviously the materials aren't as nice, but I knew that would be the case in making the change so that one does not really count.
That being said, the desire is a powerful beast and I am looking forward to Froyo.
These might be interesting points to someone tossing up between the two phones. The legend was also blazingly quick, and unless you want to play the latest 3d games, it is probably fast enough for you. Still not sure if I did the right thing upgrading!
yeah i know what you mean about the pentile thing, i'm not surprised the legend screen looks better tbh
and i find the gap between the screen and body annoying as well, but theres nothing you can do lol
yea unfortunately i did not know about the pentile thing prior to changing. i am sure i would not have really noticed it i i didn't have the legend first, but dayom! the screen on the legend was crisp!
Yes I agree, legends actually a very good phone except one and only one problem which is the CPU...... it pushes legend to an edge that everyone turn to desire.
But hero and legend has actually a much better size and style which I love them so much.
Although I am using desire, lol.
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HTC were so close to making literally the be all and end all of kick ass smart phones, desire components in legend body. Damn that would been sweet
Am I the only one mystified that each new HTC phone seems to be disconnected from the past models? In other words, why not the Legend II?
Not with android family at least.
You can see the touch series that htc made for windows mobile. Well, initially, only some touch models and now all their wm devices are under the name Touch.
Hopefully, there is something like that to happen to their android product line.
And I'm really looking for the gsm versions of evo 4g and incredible. N1/desire power, legend design quality without mis-register multitouch issue on popular gsm network. I don't live in the US btw.
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Yeah, if HTC made a phone with the Legend's build quality and the power the HTC Desire, I would be all over it =]
al89nut said:
Am I the only one mystified that each new HTC phone seems to be disconnected from the past models? In other words, why not the Legend II?
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I think you mean the Legend should have been the Hero II!
Regards,
Dave
argh! i need to figure out in the next 2 days whether i want to change back to legend. if i am not going to be playing crazy games or using google earth, do you think the desire is overkill? the main thing i would be worried about with the legend is that it will lack the support of the desire as it is not a flagship model
matt246 said:
argh! i need to figure out in the next 2 days whether i want to change back to legend. if i am not going to be playing crazy games or using google earth, do you think the desire is overkill? the main thing i would be worried about with the legend is that it will lack the support of the desire as it is not a flagship model
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I have the Desire and i loved it... Never got the chance to test Legend since i compared the two and have gone to the powerfull one, but...
I really dislike the physical buttons on the Desire. It bothers me that a touch device have so many physical buttons (they can be physical, but more integrated to the design like the Legend).
Also the speaker is very poor when making calls on speakerphone (but i think this is HTC regular) and the battery cover lacks some quality...
My eyes are really stuck on Legend - it is simply fabulous! Really really beautiful and made of aluminum, but i also heard that it makes wireless power go down a bit when compared to other non aluminum.
I've bought the Desire instead of the Legend mainly because of the power vs price and the wireless thing...
My advice is that you go for the one you like the most, since they are mainly the same, but the Legend is so dawn cool and beautiful and the Desire is a powerful beast! Which serves you best?
All right, have decided to keep the desire. Although this is probably more down to laziness than an actual well thought out decision. But if I decide I really want the legend then I can always sell the desire. Might do that if legend actually gets 2.2
matt246 said:
All right, have decided to keep the desire. Although this is probably more down to laziness than an actual well thought out decision. But if I decide I really want the legend then I can always sell the desire. Might do that if legend actually gets 2.2
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You won't regret it
One day you'll need that Snapdragon CPU, and rumors are FroYo may enable 720p video recording
Ok little bit of an update, just managed to get my desire side by side with my friends legend.
The colors on the legend look so washed out next to the desire! Doesn't even seem AOMED. In my memory legend screen was so much better but next to desire it did not compare.
Also legend felt pretty slow after using the desire for 2 weeks.
So in my opinion, the legend only wins out on form factor now. Glad I kept my desire, enjoying all the custom roms that are coming out!
So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
Personally I like the Incredible better then the Inc 2. I agree the big screen phones don't look good and not to mention require a man-purse to carry. Also agree that the inc has a huge tech base. All kinds of ROMs and themes. Another deal breaker for the inc2 is the screen is SLCD. I prefer AMOLED on my Dinc. Looks way cleaner and crisper.
My. 02
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Incredibles have SLCD now...
I've had an incredible since the day it came out. (4/29/10)
Its rock solid. With tweaking i can make it two days of mild to moderate use.
But if you want to go for a new phone, go for it. The incredible 2 will have 2 cameras, and a second gen processor. However, it looks plasticky, and its resolution is no better than the incredibles, so the screen, stretched out to 4 inches, will look lower quality. Don't expect great battery life either.
You might be wise to take a look at some of the other Verizon phones, like the thunderbolt, the droid bionic, etc...
The thuderbolt is even bigger than the Inc2. 4.3" is just too big for a handheld device. I have no desire to carry around a dinner plate as my phone. On paper the Shift is the best (3.8" with keyboard) bt the build quality and hardware design are quite frankly crap. Slider sucks, terrible button placement, and a crappy screen.
Anyway, turns out the incredible that store thought they had in stock, they didn't. But Wirefly says they still have some for sale (for free, too boot, since this is a new Verizon account for me) so I'll order that tonight.
Since I'm getting the phone for free, think it's worth spending the $70 for the year long proteciton plan? I'm a little concerned that they don't cover "negligent loss", although I suppose if I do lose it I could always just tell them someone broke into my car and took it.
Let me take this chance to also say you guys are a prety awesome community, I've been frustrted and posted a bunch of whiny little ***** comments, and people still help me. You guys rule
Just ordered in an Incredible 1. Was in the same boat as you and decided that I didn't need all the extras that the 2 had to offer. Seriously, at some point, it is just more gadget that I am going to use (two cameras?).
Best protection you can buy, IMHO, is a good case (I prefer Otterbox, but there are a lot of good options). The deductable on some of those insurance plans will wipe out any value the Incredible may have had anyway.
i think its a dillema
in one think, this incredible allready 1 year old, so it's basically left in feature n tech
more ram I think more great
but if you get a reasonable price for this incredible why not ?
I'm also still use my incredible as my multimedia phone, i love it very much.
If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
CJeep said:
If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
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Sounds like the best idea. If you reread your OP, everything points to the incredible anyway.
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emkorial said:
So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
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Honestly for you then I think you just answered your own question. Myself I think 3.7 is a bit too small. I'd like between 4 and 4.3. So the inc 2 will be mine one day...
I just got a Thunderbolt coming from an Incredible (coming from a Fascinate). I don't think say that you can't go wrong with the Incredible. It is solid in almost all areas. I used Juice Defender and then used Green Power while using a stock EVO battery and I didn't have any isssues with battery life. The Incredible has basically the same processor and is very snappy even when compared to any of the newest phones. I bought the Thunderbolt for the 4G speed and the front facing camera. I hardly use the front camera and the 4G speed is fast but I never have a strong signal to really take advantage of it. I use wifi 90% when I need internet so 3g on the Incredible is hardly noticed (3g isn't that bad for most things anyway) The larger screen is really nice and, to the contrary of what others say, doesn't require a man purse- fits in my pocket fine without a problem. However, in sum, I can honestly say that upgrading to a Thunderbolt isn't all that I thought it would be and I would be just fine with the Incredible.
I don't know why you would buy old technology at this point - the incredible is almost a year old. After having the incredible and using it more and more for browsing the net, I wish I had a little bit bigger screen. Maybe not the size of the Thunderbolt but tthe incredible 2 size would be perfect. Also, I upgraded to the extended battery on my incredible because the battery life is unbearable IMO even with root and custom roms. I haven't looked but I'd hope the Incredible 2 will have better battery life.
Finally found someone who had one in stock, wirefly.com had them, and it was free with a new line of service, which I needed (I'm coming from Sprint). So I sprung for the year long protection plan. Phone should be here Wed or Thu. I got 2 weeks to back out if something comes up.
meh... Incredible 2.
Id would go for the Incredible 2. It has a superior processor and more ram. Also bigger screens are not that cumbersome. If my friend who is 4'9" 90lbs and always wears tight pants with small pockets can lug around his Galaxy S all day I don't think its a problem. Also the DInc is being discontinued, after the gingerbread ota don't count on it getting newer versions of android except through custom roms, which will also die down when the devs get their upgrades. Not to mention all the other under the hood things HTC may have overhauled such as the motherbaord.
The 2 is a world phone you might want to get the thunderbolt that has the new sense UI and it'll get 2.3 update before the incredible. I'm on my incredible bow and love it but figure I would give you q little info if your planning on getting a new phone.
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I just got my Inc about a month ago so I'm stuck with it for a while, so far it's worth it to me, it gets the job done.
Incredible 2
I'd wait for the inc2 because of the front facing camera 768mb ram newer 1ghz snapdragon processor and 4 inch display which is a perfect size not to big or small and because it is a world phone and because it will get more updates than the original incredible THE INCREDIBLE 2 might even get the rumored Android Ice Cream Sandwhich which the incredible one will not get and the incredible one might not even get sense 2.0
cvbcbcmv said:
just get the incredible and love it. I have been loving mine. The keyboard is great and with a simple default profile on juice defender, a task killer, and a bump charge from time to time it is fine
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Nnnnnoooooooo task killer....noooo...nnoooooo
I bought my DInc off of CL for 200 back in December, so Im not stuck on a stupid Verizon contract. If you dont care about those things, then wait for a DInc2. My only fear about DInc2 and the Thunderbolt is that it may be severely locked down, which could hamper ROM development.
Thy have their pros and cons but if it is between the Incredible and Incredible 2 I say stick with the original. I2 has some cool extra's (2 camera's) but because the screen is larger and the resolution isn't any higher it won't look as sharp as D1.
If you want a newer phone I suggest the Thunderbolt or the Droid Bionic (that thing looks like it could be awesome!) but if you are fine with the incredible for a cheaper price it is a wise choice.
I have an opportunity to get a Droid Incredible fairly cheap (I'll keep the price to myself, suffice to say it's under $100), original box, all accessories, in good working condition. I've owned an HTC HD2 in the past and while I don't anymore, I'm wondering if I should:
- just save the money I am considering spending on the Droid Incredible and put it towards another HD2 when a good deal comes along
or
- get the Droid Incredible and make the best of it
I'm a tinkerer, always have been, and I know the HD2 is the best damned phone for people like me, but this is a really great chance to get a Droid Incredible. I'd miss the full 4.3" screen on the HD2 but at least the 3.7" on the Droid Incredible still maintains the 800x480 resolution which I can't do without (smaller phones with 480x320 or whatever, useless).
So I'm just asking to be asking: is the Droid Incredible a decent phone overall, with some ability to get the custom ROMs on it, with similar performance to the HD2? I know the camera is better on the DI but, apparently it can't do better than 800x480 for recording video (somewhat odd resolution, definitely, and far from proper 720p).
Anyone with experience with the Droid Incredible as well as the HD2 care to comment? If so, it's greatly appreciated.
Thanks...
It does do 720p actually, it came with the Froyo update. However, like the evo, the audio on the video still sucks. Anyway, performance wise, you shouldn't be dissapointed. The phone is a year old, but that just means there's a ton of Roms out for it. That's for sure. And it runs gingerbread wonderfully!
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So it now can do actual 720p recording? Ok, I didn't realize that now, didn't see a mention of it, thanks for the info.
Can I ask what you mean about the audio? Are you talking about audio that's part of the recordings made with camera, or audio on files that I'd be playing back, like movies or whatever I encode for playback on the Incredible itself? I know the HD2 had a serious audio lag issue with big video files but that got resolved at some point. I just wanted to get that point you mentioned clarified.
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(reading up on the actual changes with the 2.2 update now, also)
Pretty sure he means audio quality on recorded video. Go for it! Especially at that price. One of the best dev communities out of all android devices.
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k_nivesout said:
Pretty sure he means audio quality on recorded video. Go for it! Especially at that price. One of the best dev communities out of all android devices.
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Indeed, the audio of recorded video is AMR. Not the best.
My incredible is one of my main audio players. And honestly, I think it sounds better than my 4th Gen iPod touch. But to be fair, I use dsp manager to get the most out of it.
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I have an opportunity to get a Droid Incredible fairly cheap (I'll keep the price to myself, suffice to say it's under $100), original box, all accessories, in good working condition. I've owned an HTC HD2 in the past and while I don't anymore, I'm wondering if I should:
- just save the money I am considering spending on the Droid Incredible and put it towards another HD2 when a good deal comes along
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- get the Droid Incredible and make the best of it
I'm a tinkerer, always have been, and I know the HD2 is the best damned phone for people like me, but this is a really great chance to get a Droid Incredible. I'd miss the full 4.3" screen on the HD2 but at least the 3.7" on the Droid Incredible still maintains the 800x480 resolution which I can't do without (smaller phones with 480x320 or whatever, useless).
So I'm just asking to be asking: is the Droid Incredible a decent phone overall, with some ability to get the custom ROMs on it, with similar performance to the HD2? I know the camera is better on the DI but, apparently it can't do better than 800x480 for recording video (somewhat odd resolution, definitely, and far from proper 720p).
Anyone with experience with the Droid Incredible as well as the HD2 care to comment? If so, it's greatly appreciated.
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For that cheap, id make very sure the esn is clean
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Yes the Incredible can record in 720p but the frame rate for recording is slower than that of the HD2 which from what I researched last night is capable of 720p at 30fps. Phone wise the Dinc would be a bargain to be had for its good looks and performance. Although with all the new tech coming out I would say if you can hold off for an even better phone you should just keep your money.
DINC|CM7|INCREDIKERNEL|VB-50
Well a tough call. If you get an incredible the community here with ROM's and kernels are great, developers are actively keeping up with the very latest updates of Android and tweaking them for optimum performance.
I don't think anything substantial will be coming out anytime soon, personally I'm not going to ditch my phone until a well built dual-core 4G phone comes out.
Gingerbread runs flawlessly but developers haven't been able to get 720p recording working on it *yet*. So if you need the 720p then I suggest you sticking with one of the many great froyo ROM's out.
I got mine for adding a line... which I then suspended, so basically it was free. And I am so glad I did, I was thinking of holding out for a TB, but best buy had a sale. Now that I've seen the TB's size and specs, I don't think it would have been worth the wait or the price. If you can get your hands on a cheap DINC with no contract do it, totally worth it. Just make sure it has a clean ESN like donny said.
Also these are awesome work horses, mine runs stable at 1267K, 43.102 MFLOPS. I'm at 21 hours with moderate data use since last charge. Plus there is a huge development following; plenty of ROM's, kernels, themes, mods
I would agree. I love my DInc, but paying out for the latest phone (Thunderbolt / HD2) is probably worth it. If you just don't have the $$$, for the newest phone, then definitely go for it.
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I got mine for adding a line... which I then suspended, so basically it was free. .......Snip!
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Really? No repercussions on that? I thought they usually back-charged you for the phone.
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Really? No repercussions on that? I thought they usually back-charged you for the phone.
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Nope, I just won't get an upgrade on that line. I still have another line on my family plan, so it's just the $40 extra a month they're not getting.
Under $100? At least for me, buying that would be a no-brainer. Even if you don't like it, you could flip it for an easy $75 or more. Even if ESN isn't clean, it can still be flipped for a nice profit. People buy them for use on Metro PCS, Cricket, and other CDMA providers worldwide.
i'd save up for a htc hd2 it has the best of both worlds windows 7 and android.
I got an inc 2 months ago from dell (free phone with 2 year contract), so far I'm loving it. May not compete with the latest phones, but I'm running CM7, default cpu freq, and it's stable, and I can't see any visible lag, even when running ADW.
All of us bound to leave Defy one day to get something even better and this is something some of us might need to do sooner than later. I have to say Defy did serve me well as my first venture into smartphones. The very late buggy Android 2.2.2 release kind of dampened my appetite to keep using it for another six months.
The much talk about SGII and HTC Sensation some how don't appeal to me even though both are 10x better than Defy. Durability is not everything but it is a welcome addition design feature for a portable device such as handsets. After going through countless of phone reviews, comments, and opinions I decided not to go for a dual core CPU handset. Android is not going to be truly optimised to take advantage of both cores for sometime to come and also the lower battery usage of dual core CPUs are totally unfounded.
For my needs 1.2GHz or 1.4GHz single core CPU is more than adequate and perhaps a good investment as long as is ARM8 or ARM9 based chip. Also next phone must have 1GB of RAM and with at least a 4" (qHD) screen size. In fairness Motorola's qHD quality is far better than of HTC offerings. My priority needs for a portable device is reading (i.e., books, pdf files, and internet), writing (i.e., Text Messaging, Email, and short posts to internet), and occasional videos. I've been enjoying youtube over wifi with Defy 2.2.2 that never bothered to try on 2.1.
The only handset available in the UK that comes close to my ideal specs for next phone is SE Arc. When I hold Defy in my hand and then the ARC it just doesn't cut it for me. The cheap plastic feeling is really off putting. Looking at the upcoming handset list there is nothing appealing either.
What is your next phone after Defy? Have you recently bought a new phone after owning Defy? Should we wait for Defy II after the experience with Motorola? After all Motorola did conduct a survey about durability with Defy users in the UK so they must have a plan for the next Defy version.
My next phone will be DEFY2 or DEFY+......Or Nexus 3
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Although I'm kinda frustrated because the phones with physical keyboard are never top notch (I would love one but...), I would either go for one or a Nexus 3.
PS: I would only consider an open phone (no locked bootloders and stuff)
Defy 2 or Atrix ...
Atrix should be so fine, but seems to be reallu overpriced ...
Next generation of Defy will be fine ...
I wonbder to have a little more CPU, a better camera and a fullHD hdmi output video signal ...
Thank you for the responses so far.
@SeaFargo
I consider Atrix as a good phone but two things about it put me off, other than being Motorola's. 1. NVidia Tegra chip: NVidia trying so hard to increase market share for gaming platform. I'm not into games so I feel paying too much for my need. 2. WebTop on Atrix not only makes this phone expensive but also harder for Motorola to update it with every major version of Android. Another feature that I don't need.
@ifu & daniel_loft
I think Nexus 3 is going to be a mind blowing phone and indeed I will be keeping my eyes on it. If it was at the right price and solid built quality then I don't mind waiting for another six months for my next phone.
After trashing my previous phone, the ruggedness of the defy is really important to me. The defy is actually a brilliant phone, once you take off the motorola software. The motorola froyo is just filled with bugs. Also for what ever reason the phone is really slow. Put cyanogenmod on however and you have a brill phone.
Whatever my next phone is, I wont be getting one that has a locked down bootloader and motorola software. For now I'm happy with my CM Defy
Olly
I will go for a waterproof device for sure.
As i am still pretty happy with my defy, i will have a good time waiting for the next generation Defy or a similar high-end waterproof smartphone.
I have no need for a bigger display. I would rather like to have an even smaller device with the same screen size.
a water resistant lg optimus 3d would be nice, replace the dual core with a powerful single core and its perfect for me
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a water resistant lg optimus 3d would be nice, replace the dual core with a powerful single core and its perfect for me
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For what I hear most 3D feature of the phones are just gimmick. Your money, your choice.
Defy 2 with unlocked bootloader of course!
Next generation of Defy or maybe some other waterproof smartphone
These specs are welcome :
-1Ghz dual-core
-min.1900 mAh battery
-4.0" screen
-1GB RAM
-720p recording
-USB On the go
-HDMI out
-unlocked bootloder ..
Id really hate to turn this into a "defy 2 wishlist" thread. but here it goes
unlike most other people, id like to see LESS ports.
Delete the headphone jack. Bluetooth audio works fine
Delete the Micro-USB port. Induction charging works.
Make the battery door screwed/bolted on.
the only real wholes should be speakers and mics, which can be made very waterproof. I hate this vaugeness and caution when testing our phones waterproofness. The phone should be really rugged.
I think I'll ver the next defy version, whatever it will be. If there is none, then I'll yo for the Milestone 3
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I just got a Defy, used, to fill in the time until my HD7 becomes useful ... as of now it can hardly do anything very well and I need a real smartphone.
Let me say that coming from a G2, then to the HD7, and now the Defy, this is the little phone that could! It feels tiny but there's something to be said for a small phone.
And Android is really shaping up to be a highly-functional OS!
This is a great little phone. Can't wait to get rid of MotoBlarghhhh.
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i am not going to leave my defy...but if i had a choice to buy a new one then it would be
MOTOROLA PHOTON 4G
CSharpHeaven said:
For what I hear most 3D feature of the phones are just gimmick. Your money, your choice.
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I don't care about other 3d features, playing 3d movies and shooting 3d pictures and movies would be great for me
Lg 2x will b my next destiny.
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My number one priority for a phone is wifi calling. Blackberry (currently) with uma handles this better than Android.
I like 3D too. It looks like fun and theres nothing wrong with a little fun.
I think that my next phone will be something with Tegra, but i like Defy and i don't change phone soon
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