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Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
One of the major reasons I root is so I can use custom roms, edited versions of the stock os, that are modified to include different features and improve the speed of the device, others love rooting for the ability to customize anything you want to.
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While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
jdmba said:
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
aaronjb said:
Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
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I'd bet we'll have a FroYo port waaay before VZ pushes it out over the air. I think (!) HTC's Software Quality Assurance is more thorough (and slower than) Google's Quality Assurance, or at least Google would rather push an update out with fewer features whereas HTC will wait for all features to work. AFAIK, VZ has very little to add or subtract to the mix -- how long does it take to recompile against a new framework and kernel?
superflysmith said:
Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
seanmcd72 said:
If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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I haven't been trying. Just trying to see if it's even worth trying to figure out. At this point I see nothing that would make me want to anyhow.
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
rynosaur said:
Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
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I miss messing with stuff... i came from a G1 were i was running a different rom every 3 days it seemed like.. i was constantly messing with things with it just for ****s and giggles
I do feel really locked down with the incredible in knowing that i cant really mess with anything, the only thing ive been able to change is the boot screen and put the nexus animation on that instead of the stupid verizon symbol.
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
KB Smoka said:
I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
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Omfg I know, right? I flashed them in my eyes accidentally and I was like holy crap, blinded me for about a minute.
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An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
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That would be a great title, you're right!!!
I got a froyo port going!
jdmba said:
While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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I have released a froyo port method over at the "anyone want froyo" thread on the 8th page. I hope it helps anyone!
Joe92T said:
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
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+1. There is not much that comes to mind with regard to things I'd like to improve with the DI. For example, the phone has more app storage than I could ever use, so there is no need for A2SD. And the processing speed is satisfying, so gaining OC'd kernel isn't a big priority. However, I simply miss being able to **** around with and compare various ROM's and mods, even if they are unneccessary on this device.
I have no real reason to root just yet, well then again I'm totally new to android, so I'm not exactly sure what rooting entails. All I want is stock 2.2 froyo, the day that is ported over to our phone is the day I will be rooted.
Can't wait..
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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i agree, the wifi tether is what made me root now rather than later.
HELP..Will my 16gb card work?
if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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Absolutely....just need the POS 2GB to get ADB going.
Hey guys. I currently have the UnrEVOked 3 "root" installed on my phone. I have to say that I've been pretty happy with it even though it doesn't have full root I can still use almost all the important ROOT apps.
Anyway, considering that the official 2.2 is supposed to come out within the next few days I was wondering if I could install it with the UnrEVOked on the phone or do I have to go back to the stock version? I have no idea how to go back to the stock version. If I need to go back to the stock version can someone please tell me how I can do that?
Thanks in advance!
Hmmm Froyo is not that cool. Id wait awhile to make sure you can still obtain root. Because you may not ever ever ever get root again with the new ota update. But if u must, install htc sync on ur computer then look on this site for 1.47 shipped supersonic rom. Download it, double click that chit, and u have a stock, battery draining, controlled by da man, 1/4 pound piece of chit. Have fun. We'll miss ya. Was fun having you haha. !!
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Hmmm Froyo is not that cool. Id wait awhile to make sure you can still obtain root. Because you may not ever ever ever get root again with the new ota update. But if u must, install htc sync on ur computer then look on this site for 1.47 shipped supersonic rom. Download it, double click that chit, and u have a stock, battery draining, controlled by da man, 1/4 pound piece of chit. Have fun. We'll miss ya. Was fun having you haha. !!
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ROFL.................ROFL
Hahaha, good one. The possibility of losing Titanium, SetCPU and the other root programs sucks. But if FROYO really delivers on all the things it says (installing apps to SD card, full flash support, much faster browser) I think I'm willing to chance it.
Just out of curiosity: What do you guys think would happen if I try to update the official FROYO update while I still have the unrEVOked on my phone?
Another question: If it is necessary to restore the phone to it's original state can I just do it through the MENU>SETTINGS>etc to restore it?
after HTC/Sprint releases the official 2.2, just wait a few days and someone will have a stock rooted 2.2, and quite possibly a few weeks down the line unrevoked will probably have a unrevoked 4 for 2.2....
vbyt,
I hear what your saying but I know myself. I'm going to have a big hardON to d/l FROYO the second it comes out. I'm not a very patient guy. I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone trying to do it.
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vbyt,
I hear what your saying but I know myself. I'm going to have a big hardON to d/l FROYO the second it comes out. I'm not a very patient guy. I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone trying to do it.
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out of curiosity, why not install cm6?
ttt ttt ttt
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Hey guys. I currently have the UnrEVOked 3 "root" installed on my phone. I have to say that I've been pretty happy with it even though it doesn't have full root I can still use almost all the important ROOT apps.
Anyway, considering that the official 2.2 is supposed to come out within the next few days I was wondering if I could install it with the UnrEVOked on the phone or do I have to go back to the stock version? I have no idea how to go back to the stock version. If I need to go back to the stock version can someone please tell me how I can do that?
Thanks in advance!
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It will probably work over an unrevoked root. You'll almost certainly lose your "root" though. Seriously, just wait.
No fourgeeeees
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I'm in the same boat. My phone is rebooting everytime I get a call while I'm already talking to someone. I'm running Unrevoked @ 1.32.651.6. Can I at least easily go to the last OTA update somehow to see if that fixes my issues>? I still want Titanium to work tho. What's my best bet right now? I need my phone for business this week and I cant afford the phone to keep rebooting on me.
Is there a newer Unrevoked I can go to and what do I need to do to get there from 1.32.651.6/Unrevoked?
You know the devs are going to find a way to root the official 2.2
I have almost no doubt that they will. That is why I'm willing to give the official 2.2 a shot. I guess time will tell
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You know the devs are going to find a way to root the official 2.2
I have almost no doubt that they will. That is why I'm willing to give the official 2.2 a shot. I guess time will tell
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Have fun loosing root and having to wait.
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out of curiosity, why not install cm6?
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Because as good as some people seem to think this ROM is, Cyanogen are not gods and the Rom does not a Jesus phone make. It is decent, but definitely not for everyone. And I want a fully functional 2.2 Rom made specifically for the Evo with all the HTC Sense goodness - at least for a little bit.
Can always do what I did last time...RUU back to 1.47 to root and then use the root method that will inevitably be found for 2.2. That way I can use 2.2 tonight (hopefully) and then root later after the devs here have figured it out.
CM6 is not the bend over backwards must have Rom that everyone made it out to be. There were plenty of things it was missing. Especially for people that need the phone for work with a decent exchange supporting app and calendar. The AOSP one does not fit the bill very well, and there is NO REASON I should have to buy all the support from the market with Touchdown Exchange for 2.0+, especially when it comes built in. Oh, and why is sense so bad when we have so many posts about where to find widgets like the clock, messaging, calendar, agenda, etc. Just use the built in one and be good to go!
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Because as good as some people seem to think this ROM is, Cyanogen are not gods and the Rom does not a Jesus phone make. It is decent, but definitely not for everyone. And I want a fully functional 2.2 Rom made specifically for the Evo with all the HTC Sense goodness - at least for a little bit.
Can always do what I did last time...RUU back to 1.47 to root and then use the root method that will inevitably be found for 2.2. That way I can use 2.2 tonight (hopefully) and then root later after the devs here have figured it out.
CM6 is not the bend over backwards must have Rom that everyone made it out to be. There were plenty of things it was missing. Especially for people that need the phone for work with a decent exchange supporting app and calendar. The AOSP one does not fit the bill very well, and there is NO REASON I should have to buy all the support from the market with Touchdown Exchange for 2.0+, especially when it comes built in. Oh, and why is sense so bad when we have so many posts about where to find widgets like the clock, messaging, calendar, agenda, etc. Just use the built in one and be good to go!
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Like you said, there are a lot of things currently missing from his ROM. To be perfectly honest I'm pretty fond of the stock ROM with SENSE UI. It works pretty well in my opinion. Like I said before I look forward to trying out the official 2.2 release.
Ok first off let me say, im a n00b still but i am constantly on here trying to read and learn more about our phone! i am currently fully rooted running damage control 3.1.2
My first question is Froyo 2.2, currently was is the best and most stable rom running it? that still keeps 4g? ive looked in development but im just curious on your all's opinion about it!
2nd: i see all these threads about updating radios? what is the need for that?
3rd: Would you recommend to just restore to factory with no root and install 2.2? and just wait for a root that way?
Oh boy, be prepared to get flamed for posting this in General. Anyways, I'm currently running Fresh 3.0 and it seems to be 100% functional. I can't test 4G cuz I don't have it where I live, but with pretty much all the resources for Froyo available now, most of the roms are now getting stable releases. Updating your radio can give you better reception and service but I've never seen any significant differences myself. I usually just flash the latest one just to be up to date. Don't install the stock OTA! There is already a stock rooted version out.
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Oh boy, be prepared to get flamed for posting this in General. Anyways, I'm currently running Fresh 3.0 and it seems to be 100% functional. Updating your radio can give you better reception and service but I've never seen any significant differences. I usually just flash the latest one just to be up to date. Don't install the stock OTA! There is already a stock rooted version out.
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people always get mad about something on forums, im just trying to extend my knowledge of things...
Totally understandable, but there are a lot of people here who post nothing but negative crap and a question posted somewhere other than Q&A is like a tractor beam for them. Anyways, hope you find what you need. There are also a lot of people here that just want to help.
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defiantly upgrade the radios....absolutely make sure you do plenty of research first on the correct way to flash them. Also in my opinion I wouldn't do the ota update...just flash the stock rooted 2.2 rom.good luck...and remember.....lots of research first before doing anything.
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defiantly upgrade the radios....absolutely make sure you do plenty of research first on the correct way to flash them. Also in my opinion I wouldn't do the ota update...just flash the stock rooted 2.2 rom.good luck...and remember.....lots of research first before doing anything.
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thanks man i appreciate it!! i really like the damage control i have now its really fast, im hoping his new one incorporates 2.2
but none the less i appreciate it, can u tell me a benefit to the radios?
4G does work on Fresh 3.1.0. Tested it this morning at work. So far, that thing is VERY stable. Haven't noticed an issue yet.
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4G does work on Fresh 3.1.0. Tested it this morning at work. So far, that thing is VERY stable. Haven't noticed an issue yet.
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sweet, ill download and try it out
Hello All again!
I have been rooted for months now, via unrEVOked.
I have done a Nandroid Backup already, and saved everything already!
I want a custom ROM as I have read these have much better battery and such
I am looking for a ROM that has 4G and HDMI out, no HTC Sense needed unless i have to
I was looking into Fresh and Virus, Still have no idea which one to do
Advice?
Kyle
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Hello All again!
I have been rooted for months now, via unrEVOked.
I have done a Nandroid Backup already, and saved everything already!
I want a custom ROM as I have read these have much better battery and such
I am looking for a ROM that has 4G and HDMI out, no HTC Sense needed unless i have to
I was looking into Fresh and Virus, Still have no idea which one to do
Advice?
Kyle
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I have never used a Virus rom so I can not help you with that one. But can tell you that I have run fresh several times both on my hero and my evo and have not had any problems that one. I am currently running myn's warm twopointtwo and it is also running great.
Like the other hundred "What rom should I use" posts
Try them out and find the one you like the best.
Thanks! Ill test it out, does it have 4G support?
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Thanks! Ill test it out, does it have 4G support?
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Myns rom does have 4GZZZZZ.
Bielinsk said:
Like the other hundred "What rom should I use" posts
Try them out and find the one you like the best.
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Well, I am pretty sure I posted in the Q A section
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Myns rom does have 4GZZZZZ.
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Sweet! Thats what i wanted to hear, flashing in a few!
THanks!
i liked both but i really really liked the virus roms. Very stable, no problems, and i love the way they look.
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i liked both but i really really liked the virus roms. Very stable, no problems, and i love the way they look.
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does this have 4g?
idk. i dont have 4G in my area yet and it doesnt say so on the page
hmmm , yeah I was originally going to do virus but I couldn't find the 4g, yeah I am in a area that 4g is literally everywhere I ever go, does it say in your settings?
....going borderline shakespere there, sorry about that.
for those users, if you are on a custom GB rom, like Buisiness Gingersense, Pure Speed, Shift, etc, you can do all the mumbo jumbo to go back to stock to grab the 2.3.4 update that you want. but, consider this, you will lose root, and not be able to obtain it for quite a while, remind me if i am wrong, but didn't it take a few months to get root when the dinc orginally got froyo back in september of 2010? (thank god for unrevoked)
but, again, losing root would mean some apps won't work right. and mainly, no CWM, and no custom roms right of the bat. yes i have the stock rom backed up here on my pc. but, as far as waiting, i'd do it. if you ask me i'd rather wait.
now, those that are not rooted, and have everything stock still, by all means, grab it up.
wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience
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wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience
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i guess some people got ahold of the 07.07 radio...no real discernable difference, it's just an update.
Why unroot? Once it's posted on here give it 3 hours and a completed stock rooted rom will be released.
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i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.
I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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ROFL! i just want the damn radio. i wounder how long before the RUU exe shows up.
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i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.
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I remember that RMK had a flashable zip of the leak up in about an hour or two. Granted, it wasn't "tweaked" at all, it was just made available so you could keep root while trying the leak out.
Since everyone is anxious about it, especially since it went from "no the Inc won't get it" to "it's coming out in stages this week", I'll bet within a day we'll have a rooted stock ROM available to flash, and tweaked ROM's within a few days.
Just my $0.02.
Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
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I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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Basically football or somebody else is going to post a PB31IMG. zip. Somebody is gonna download it strip out everything but the boot.img, system and data folders. Add root and busybox and reupload. It's a little more complicated then that, but that's about it.
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No way i would give up root.
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I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?
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So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?
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It's a completely different ROM, and most importantly, kernel. It's not going to work.
I unrooted my Incredible, never used any roms anyway.
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Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
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already is flashable as of a few minutes ago
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already is flashable as of a few minutes ago
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And here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
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after the last update, I'm unconvinced that this update will be better than the Synergy ROM. I'd rather stay rooted, wait for flashable custom kernels to come out, and if the radio is any good, snag that, too. the last one was a nightmare with all that bloatware; can't imagine what sort of crap they added this time.
The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.
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The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.
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I will never unroot either.. I'm running OVO RC4.. LOVING IT... Sence 3.0 is great. I'm guessing you are testing RC5? Its not public yet right? Looking forward to it.
Do you know if I will have to do a full wipe again before i upgrade to 5? Trying to decide if I should set up my phone the way i like it, or wait on 5...