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Why to root my Desire

Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..

Erm...then don't root it.

he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions

Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.

By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?

ingvarr_zaag said:
And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?

stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.

the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so

PsYDoX said:
Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.

slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?

PsYDoX said:
Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?

SIM Free Deal
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?

spences10 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?

briskmojo said:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.

spile said:
I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.

I've only been and gone and rooted it!

Phew that was nerve wrecking
But successful
Thanks to the wonderful guides here and supporting posts by the community, it was pretty painless. Now its just a matter of finding which ROM I'd like to stick with for the time being. I just couldn't wait any longer to play with Froyo, and I like the roughness of the N1 version but for now I've gone back to the Mocado Sense ROM until all the issues have really been ironed out with the custom Froyo ROMs. I have both images on the SD and it takes about 2 mins from boot to switch now, I'm impressed that I can back up and recover so easily.
I'm soo impressed actually, you guys are fantastic.
I guess really this is just an ass licking thread in the end

that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.

Nice one. It's a great feeling when you root successfully first time isn't it
You get a great sense of satisfaction.
If you like 2.1 roms over froyo at the minute, you should try one of pays roms in the dev section. They are a few pages down now as he hasn't kept the thread updated because he had to send his phone to HTC for repair (not rom related) lol.
His roms are very good, and a lot of people including me really like them. I'm on a froyo rom now though because I can't stop changing. lol.

al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
@socktug, okay I'll look at those.. I do like the inclusion of Wavesecure in the Modaco ROM but now its rooted I'm sure I'll look around before I settle. No point getting too cosy cos in a month or two an official sense Froyo will come and I'll have to flash that anyway.
(edit) I mean a custom version of the Sense Froyo of course

al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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to each his own
seriously though, we are indeed fortunate to have such a talented and generous membership at XDA. things will get even better once Desire is sold in the US and more even people get on board.

I think ass licking would leave more of a bitter taste in your mouth and i imagine the texture would be something similar to Nutella.
+1 for the idea of ass kissing as opposed to ass licking (and no, i am not gay if that is what you were thinking!)
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This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory

Welcome to the rooted world
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socktug said:
This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory
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ROFL... indeed

MasDroid said:
ROFL... indeed
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You mean ROLF!
oursoul said:
Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
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Yet you still haven't edited your first post At least we know what your preference is

Actually i did mean ROFL (rolling on floor laughing)...
Just a coincidence that Socktug is called Rolf!
Now that is what i call funny!
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Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!

Yeah, you do sacrifice a lot of useful functionality moving away from Sense to a froyo rom, including the way it mingles all of your contacts together. It's a personal preference really but I prefer the mail app, HTC browser and photos app in Sense to Android 2.2, the mail app is actually far superior as you can use contacts from any of your accounts and the corporate address book when you cmopose a new message.
Not wanting to start rom wars here but I think Pays roms are the best - they include a lot of nice features like automatic ad blocking, I've tried pretty much everything on this board and I always end up going back.
As for rooting, it is necessary when HTC have given us such a pathetic amount of phone storage, I ran out after a week and only had about 20 apps installed. Rooting was necessary so that I could install apps to the sd card and use my phone without having to constantly do housekeeping in my market downloads.

Hey carrige, I just rooted 2 days ago, and I can say that I am seeing a lot of difference in speed and quality, compared to the stock ROM. Yeah I too miss the HTC contacts widget, since it used to sync every contact detail together, and liked a lot how the images on facebook were ported to my phone contacts. However I found something similiar to that, it only ports the photos though, and not the info.
As regards to ROMS, I only tried DeFrost and Mondaco's and I can tell you they are pretty amazing!
carrige said:
Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Well, I'm still on the fence. My phone runs very smooth, does almost everything I need, the only reason to root would be aps2sd but I think I can wait for the official Froyo+Sense update that should come any day now [sarcasm].
Of course, I haven't tried any of the custom ROMs, so, what am I missing? What would be the 3 most amazing things that you could say about the current rom you're using?

carrige said:
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Not at all, I dont do off topic.
3 things:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
5- You can stick 5 up your arse.
Since rooting my phone has felt complete (even tho I've flashed it about 100 times in the past 23 hours), stable.. more unique, solid, cool, better.
I remember when I had my PSP and I butchered my only battery to make a pandora and got the m33 custom firmware on it. This is the same thing.
It makes the boundries clearer about who the device belongs to.. I'll give you a clue... it's MINE.
"Those who dare Rodney, Those who dare...!"

oursoul said:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
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Hmmm ... so let me summarize:
[BACKGROUD: I had a G1 and flashed it countless times, I know how the game goes]
1. why would you need that on a rock solid device? Backups areonly needed if you feel unsecure, if you flash it over and over again, so you can go back if something goes wrong.
2. OK, I get it, but this one is soooo small, it's not worth counting. Not worth the risk (don't tell me it's risk free because it NEVER is)
3. so you don't even get the benefits of Froyo but you (maybe) lose Sense. I for one love Sense.
4. OK, that is ONE. (I already stated thiswould bea reason).
So, bottom line, you are saying CUSTOMIZATION. Hmmm, not worth the risk IMHO.
P.S. I'm not trying to play smart, I'm doing this for the sake of arguments / counterarguments.
P.P.S. If you feel we are going off-topic here please say and I will start a new thread.

There's no such things as offtopic on an oursoul thread okay.
1- True say, cos obviously if you've rooted you're gonna try some crazy **** sometimes, its just good to know that with the Recovery patched you will never completely **** it up. And the backup just means that when you've made that perfect setup you can freeze it in case you have to replace your handset or unroot for any reason. Means you can Test a new ROM and if you dont like you can recover in minutes to your happyROM.
2- Come on mate, its ****ing cool.. I hate the Sense lockscreen, its bollocks.. I like the rotary one personally .. round and round hehe. This point was more than that, its about pure customisation.
4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
3- I said test Froyo, I'm not interested in keeping it cos I love sense too.. I might have kept Froyo if the N1 camera app wasn't so shoddy. I already miss my c905 camera quality. I love how on the MoDaCo rom you can move the homescreens about in 'helicopter' view
PS dont worry about it bruv, you're safe with me..
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu

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4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
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Missed that one, very true, I agree with you, I hate a lot of those apps too.
oursoul said:
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Still, I don't feel like going through the "pain" if my phone performs SO well. The G1 was a completely different story, it needed to be rooted to make it a true Android phone. When I got my Desire I was (and still am!) blown away by the speed and all those things it could do right out of the box. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old, but at some point I'm wondering if I'm actually using the phone or just trying to make it do things.
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Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
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Oh NO, it's not! Mine is better for a lot of reasons! Want one? BECAUSE IT'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
BACK ON TOPIC (beware, I changed the topic now):
You still haven't convinced me. Anybody else would like to take a shot here?!
P.S. I'm surprised Market Enabler didn't show up as a reason to root. Maybe you are all Brits or whatever but for a lot of us Market only offers free stuff. But I decided it's not a reason to root since I can find everything I need on the "dark side". Sorry developers, I know it's not your fault but it's not mine either. If Google enables payed apps for Romania I will start buying again. Until then I'm a pirate!

I've got to admit, as someone that constantly flashed roms to my HTC Magic, I was very happy on the stock desire rom aside from the running out of storage issue. HTC did a good job. If the phone had enough storage I would still be running the stock rom now. I don't see any real reason to root other than the lack of phone storage. Froyo roms still don't work properly anyway - for me they ALL have an echo on the line. I would stay with stock if you are happy, don't crumble under the peer pressure!!

UnrEVOked 3 and Official 2.2 Update

Hey guys. I currently have the UnrEVOked 3 "root" installed on my phone. I have to say that I've been pretty happy with it even though it doesn't have full root I can still use almost all the important ROOT apps.
Anyway, considering that the official 2.2 is supposed to come out within the next few days I was wondering if I could install it with the UnrEVOked on the phone or do I have to go back to the stock version? I have no idea how to go back to the stock version. If I need to go back to the stock version can someone please tell me how I can do that?
Thanks in advance!

Hmmm Froyo is not that cool. Id wait awhile to make sure you can still obtain root. Because you may not ever ever ever get root again with the new ota update. But if u must, install htc sync on ur computer then look on this site for 1.47 shipped supersonic rom. Download it, double click that chit, and u have a stock, battery draining, controlled by da man, 1/4 pound piece of chit. Have fun. We'll miss ya. Was fun having you haha. !!
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pongoface said:
Hmmm Froyo is not that cool. Id wait awhile to make sure you can still obtain root. Because you may not ever ever ever get root again with the new ota update. But if u must, install htc sync on ur computer then look on this site for 1.47 shipped supersonic rom. Download it, double click that chit, and u have a stock, battery draining, controlled by da man, 1/4 pound piece of chit. Have fun. We'll miss ya. Was fun having you haha. !!
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ROFL.................ROFL

Hahaha, good one. The possibility of losing Titanium, SetCPU and the other root programs sucks. But if FROYO really delivers on all the things it says (installing apps to SD card, full flash support, much faster browser) I think I'm willing to chance it.
Just out of curiosity: What do you guys think would happen if I try to update the official FROYO update while I still have the unrEVOked on my phone?

Another question: If it is necessary to restore the phone to it's original state can I just do it through the MENU>SETTINGS>etc to restore it?

after HTC/Sprint releases the official 2.2, just wait a few days and someone will have a stock rooted 2.2, and quite possibly a few weeks down the line unrevoked will probably have a unrevoked 4 for 2.2....

vbyt,
I hear what your saying but I know myself. I'm going to have a big hardON to d/l FROYO the second it comes out. I'm not a very patient guy. I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone trying to do it.

SantinoInc said:
vbyt,
I hear what your saying but I know myself. I'm going to have a big hardON to d/l FROYO the second it comes out. I'm not a very patient guy. I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone trying to do it.
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out of curiosity, why not install cm6?

ttt ttt ttt

SantinoInc said:
Hey guys. I currently have the UnrEVOked 3 "root" installed on my phone. I have to say that I've been pretty happy with it even though it doesn't have full root I can still use almost all the important ROOT apps.
Anyway, considering that the official 2.2 is supposed to come out within the next few days I was wondering if I could install it with the UnrEVOked on the phone or do I have to go back to the stock version? I have no idea how to go back to the stock version. If I need to go back to the stock version can someone please tell me how I can do that?
Thanks in advance!
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It will probably work over an unrevoked root. You'll almost certainly lose your "root" though. Seriously, just wait.

No fourgeeeees
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I'm in the same boat. My phone is rebooting everytime I get a call while I'm already talking to someone. I'm running Unrevoked @ 1.32.651.6. Can I at least easily go to the last OTA update somehow to see if that fixes my issues>? I still want Titanium to work tho. What's my best bet right now? I need my phone for business this week and I cant afford the phone to keep rebooting on me.
Is there a newer Unrevoked I can go to and what do I need to do to get there from 1.32.651.6/Unrevoked?

You know the devs are going to find a way to root the official 2.2
I have almost no doubt that they will. That is why I'm willing to give the official 2.2 a shot. I guess time will tell

SantinoInc said:
You know the devs are going to find a way to root the official 2.2
I have almost no doubt that they will. That is why I'm willing to give the official 2.2 a shot. I guess time will tell
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Have fun loosing root and having to wait.

gregnice631 said:
out of curiosity, why not install cm6?
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Because as good as some people seem to think this ROM is, Cyanogen are not gods and the Rom does not a Jesus phone make. It is decent, but definitely not for everyone. And I want a fully functional 2.2 Rom made specifically for the Evo with all the HTC Sense goodness - at least for a little bit.
Can always do what I did last time...RUU back to 1.47 to root and then use the root method that will inevitably be found for 2.2. That way I can use 2.2 tonight (hopefully) and then root later after the devs here have figured it out.
CM6 is not the bend over backwards must have Rom that everyone made it out to be. There were plenty of things it was missing. Especially for people that need the phone for work with a decent exchange supporting app and calendar. The AOSP one does not fit the bill very well, and there is NO REASON I should have to buy all the support from the market with Touchdown Exchange for 2.0+, especially when it comes built in. Oh, and why is sense so bad when we have so many posts about where to find widgets like the clock, messaging, calendar, agenda, etc. Just use the built in one and be good to go!

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Because as good as some people seem to think this ROM is, Cyanogen are not gods and the Rom does not a Jesus phone make. It is decent, but definitely not for everyone. And I want a fully functional 2.2 Rom made specifically for the Evo with all the HTC Sense goodness - at least for a little bit.
Can always do what I did last time...RUU back to 1.47 to root and then use the root method that will inevitably be found for 2.2. That way I can use 2.2 tonight (hopefully) and then root later after the devs here have figured it out.
CM6 is not the bend over backwards must have Rom that everyone made it out to be. There were plenty of things it was missing. Especially for people that need the phone for work with a decent exchange supporting app and calendar. The AOSP one does not fit the bill very well, and there is NO REASON I should have to buy all the support from the market with Touchdown Exchange for 2.0+, especially when it comes built in. Oh, and why is sense so bad when we have so many posts about where to find widgets like the clock, messaging, calendar, agenda, etc. Just use the built in one and be good to go!
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Like you said, there are a lot of things currently missing from his ROM. To be perfectly honest I'm pretty fond of the stock ROM with SENSE UI. It works pretty well in my opinion. Like I said before I look forward to trying out the official 2.2 release.

Best way

Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance

JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness

JRngln said:
Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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tylerlawhon said:
As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?

JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.

It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.

Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you

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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...

Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day

JRngln said:
Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)

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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?

JRngln said:
I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion

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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!

JRngln said:
I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more

Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.

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I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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Why root, besides natural causes..

Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
Thanks!

Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.

k3lcior said:
Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.
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And Adfree! I've never installed any fully custom roms, just left them standard but rooted, on all the Androids I've had. On my first one, a Xoom, I did install another rom, but only because someone produced a nice 'standard' one, with just overclocking added.

Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
I couldn't use Android without these 3.

k3lcior said:
Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
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Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?

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Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?
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Sorry i dont understand your question, anyway FasterFix improve gps lock time.

Well its not all ad free, that depends on what apps your running.. And, still; pretty obvious reasons, but I agree. Oh well, guess I just root the anyway, since I know I'm going to do it at some point.. Just need to play with it for a while and find a absolute awesome ROM first.. I would still appreciate other good 'whys' though!

If you think you are going to want root do it now before you get to far into setting your tablet up. Rooting the N7 requires unlocking the device and well reset the device.
fasthair

Root because its a Nexus...a toy that needs to used to its full potential and for root apps we need and love, I also need a kernel that I can customise with trickster mod to increase sound and just generally tweak!
deud said:
Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
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Yeah, true. But I don't mind full wipes/resets that much.. Kind of used to it! I realize now this topic maybe was a little unnecessary, since I AM going to root at some point.. Got a bit carried away here, blown by the sweetness of N7! So I figured 'why root?!', but I ain't foolin' no one, I will root, haha.. Any ROMs that are specifically better?! I like pure Android, fast 'n stable..
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I mean; **** is lightening fast as it is already! Great hell, I'm amazed by this machine..

You can use Stock and Root it.