[Q] Can't update SuperUser? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright, I better put the whole backstory in first:
I had rooted my DHD (1.32.405.6 stock) with VISIONary+ r14 and all was fine. Then I unrooted, because I wanted to re-root with /system set as r/w. But after unrooting (also with VISIONary+ r14), I could only temproot for some reason.
I then proceeded to root it using the first two steps of this guide.
This caused all kinds of havoc on my phone, errors about UID's being inconsistent etc., so ended up doing a factory reset.
After that, I was able to permroot, again using VISIONary+ r14. All was/is well.
But I noticed that I'm now stuck with the old "SuperUser Permissions" app, and I can't update it to the release by ChainsDD (I had the one from ChainsDD when I originally rooted).
A search on the phone, reveals that I have a superuser.apk in /data/app, in /system/app and one in /data/data/com.modaco.visionaryplus.
Am I simply stuck with the old version? Or is there a way to update it, without breaking everything (again!)? It's not crucial, just liked the version by ChainsDD a lot more than the old one
I don't have eng hboot or radio s-off or anything like that, yet. Just permroot, without /system r/w, I can however mount /system as r/w with "Mount /system (rw/ro) from Market.
Thanks in advance (and sorry for the long post).

did you ever fix this, i have the same problem here upgrade by ChainsDD installation failed with not correct signed error. also send support question to ChainsDD but no answer yet
forget question, fixed it thx

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[Q] problems with unrEVOked root

hey guys.. i'm almost ready to post a video on this.. haven't had luck with any help so i am reposting with what i've done.
I need info on what could have went wrong or a point out on a possible step i missed.
I uninstalled sync, phone is charge only, I checked multiple times to make sure boot loader was installed.. the only weird thing with that is when i hit volume down and power into bootloader mode I only have 4 options and not the fifth bottom option that i am supposed to select as shown in the few videos posted.
The root program goes through.. the phone sits there and reboots like 2 or 3 times and the program looks good.. then the one last thing where it says r****** into recovery then the phone goes into recovery the the program on the computer says done. The phone runs through steps.. then last step in recovery it says varifying system type and then has a list
E: unsupported radio version..
E: i forget..
something about sim card..
failure
on the phone it says super users is on there.. so i did titanium backup and tried to run it and it said root not found. lol this is supposed to be easy guys what am I missing???
Your not alone. I experienced the same. Unrevoked my newly arrived desire (orig. 2.2 Sept. 2010 release).
SU was installed and I can access all dir (r only) but have no rights deleting system apps.
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temiatwork said:
Your not alone. I experienced the same. Unrevoked my newly arrived desire (orig. 2.2 Sept. 2010 release).
SU was installed and I can access all dir (r only) but have no rights deleting system apps.
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You don't have the exact same problem, what you have is a working Unrevoked root which gives you only read access when booted and r/w access when in recovery. If you want to delete system apps while booted try this, reed it carefully and understand the risks off what your gone do. (If you however S-off your CDMA Desire with Unrevoked i said nothing)
Sorry about the first problem, don't know how to solve that.
Thanks for the reply and I stand corrected. It is a working Unrevoked (thanks to those guys) but I don't want to s-off my desire atm.
I did the process assuming that given SU privileges would allow me r-w access to the system/app dir.
One other thing, titanium backup does not run saying the phone is not rooted. It is really the issue of doing S-OFF which I want to postpone for now.
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temiatwork said:
Thanks for the reply and I stand corrected. It is a working Unrevoked (thanks to those guys) but I don't want to s-off my desire atm.
I did the process assuming that given SU privileges would allow me r-w access to the system/app dir.
One other thing, titanium backup does not run saying the phone is not rooted. It is really the issue of doing S-OFF which I want to postpone for now.
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unrevoked is a "soft root" or "shell root" it dosent allow write access to /system/ while the device is booted, this is because the bootloader has certain security measures built in, when you security unlock your bootloader "s-off" the bootloader is tricked into ignoring these security flags, giving you full write access to your device
so basically I need to s-off the phone in order to be able to do what I want... delete apps and what not..

s-off, but no root access?

After doing with the PERM ROOT, i did reboot my G2 with volume down+power, "s-off" shows on the screen, but something just happened.
after rebooting, i just uninstall VISIONary, then i rebooted my G2 again, to make sure, i did volume down+power again. Good, s-off is still there. When i came into the home screen, i pressed the Root Explorer, oooooops, i got no root access to open this software....
To check this, i re-install VISIONary, --root now---"your device is already rooted".
All in all, i have the "s-off", but i have no root access.
Help!!!
A big thanks here and looking for some one would like to answer me.
Install Superuser (from ChainDD) and make sure it allows access for your root explorer. Also, try the steps again to get S-Off. After you do the 'sync' command, do a reboot back to your home screen (not bootloader) to see if the changes stick.
And don't start a new thread. Post in the old one.
Make sure Visionary is not set to "Root on Boot".
Reboot the phone and run Visionary again.
Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
You don't need visionary after you get pern root. I don't have it anymore. If you followed the guide then you should be golden.
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superuser is useful, but when i redid this step"# /data/local/tmp/root",it was told that # /data/local/tmp/root not found. after sync, i still can not obtain the root access...
fox_lee said:
superuser is useful, but when i redid this step"# /data/local/tmp/root",it was told that # /data/local/tmp/root not found. after sync, i still can not obtain the root access...
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Did you just try running su?
-RotorDemon- said:
Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
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This is what did it for me, I had S-OFF and no SU/Root last night.. took 3 seconds..
Yes, if i uninstall superuser, "su" won't pass the premit. If i keep superuser in my G2, "su" will pass but i need confirm it with superuser...
I have this problem and I deleted visionary because I thought I didn't need it and when trying to get it back its not in the market so I can't try using it again to get the perm root eventhough I have soff
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-RotorDemon- said:
Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
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latest version? u mean R12 or R11?
v6tc said:
This is what did it for me, I had S-OFF and no SU/Root last night.. took 3 seconds..
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What version of VISIONary did u use? r11 or r12(tested), and did u just work it out?
kicknik said:
I have this problem and I deleted visionary because I thought I didn't need it and when trying to get it back its not in the market so I can't try using it again to get the perm root eventhough I have soff
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Then you'll need to visit the VISIONary thread and download it from there. It was suspended from the Android Market.
Try to do the stock PC10.img to start all over and just go thru the steps.
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Well I had the r12 version. Tried the temproot (checked for su and it was there.) and then permroot (the phone forced a reset) when it came back on, there was no root. So I decided to go manually. Followed all instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965. Did Everything exactly besides step 6. Well I did it but it said that I already had root. So i proceeded with step 7 and waited five minutes (just to be sure) and then restarted. Checked and confirmed that s-off. Powered on the phone and still no root access. I figured that step 6 may have thrown me off so i tried step 6 and 7 again to no avail. Stuck with s-off but no root.
I had perma-root yesterday. Working and tested... mui happy.
Got OTA update late last night (Southeast US / Tampabay FL). Accepted it like a dumbass.
Currently:
Phone works... I didn't get "teh brix".
VISIONARY tells me "your device is already rooted"
SuperUser has my Root-apps listed with green radio buttons.
su from terminal results in permission denied
screenshot will no-longer run (This program requires root access)
Recovery Boot = S-OFF
Confused = Yes, very
Can't re-root as visionary won't really run properly. Uninstalled Visionary and installed Visionary+. Still says "Your device is already rooted".
S-off no boot fix?
So to reply to my own thread once I've gone through all of the steps repeatedly, I wound up with s-off and no root. even after running visionary+ temp root and then entering (in terminal emulator on the phone) su (granted superuser) and then typing sync and then reboot. Did this over and over again with the same result but to get it to work(for me anyways) i had to run temproot, and then run permroot and then reboot. Mind you, I have already done this step before but it didnt seem to work until afterwards. Hopes that this helps SOMEONE.
For people facing a similar issue, use the RATC method instead of VISIONary, you should get perm root then.
I had the same issue I followed unforgiven's instructions
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
after step 7 and you reboot run visionary again and you should gain perm root, hope this helps.
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Sorry, what is the RATC method of rooting?

[Q] Problem with unrevoked

I tried rooting with unrevoked, it said Done on the screen (PC) but it actually hasn't rooted it. After researching it appears it need to "finish it off" and use unrevoked forever (http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever) which i tried but I get an error Got Radio version 5.11.05.27 E:unsupported system e:update failed
any ideas?
Are you sure your not mixing rooting and S-offing up? Unrevoked forever will only work on CDMA phones.
What happens when you download terminal emulator and type: su
themikeyboosh said:
I tried rooting with unrevoked, it said Done on the screen (PC) but it actually hasn't rooted it. After researching it appears it need to "finish it off" and use unrevoked forever (http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever) which i tried but I get an error Got Radio version 5.11.05.27 E:unsupported system e:update failed
any ideas?
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Unrevoked is only a soft root for the desire, if you want full root, after using unrevoked, search for alpharev to complete the procedure, unrevoked forever is not supported on a gsm desire
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Probably. Yeah i just read it's only the desire cdma that is supported.
oh......a dialog box popped up saying will you allow blah blah
confused. i want to edit the gps.conf file using android commander but that says i need root. so what has unrevoked done? i thought that rooted it
You are rooted and can use most apps that require root, but you can not write to the system partition while booted. If you need to do anything to the system partition do it while in recovery or use [AlphaRev] Public release S-OFF HTC Desire GSM. Just make sure you really know what you are doing before S-offing your device.
Soft root only allows R/W access to /system when in recovery, if you wan full access like i said try alpharev
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thanks. how do i write to it in recovery? i don't fancy doing that AlphaRev thing
You need to get familiar with ADB. Do some searching on that. This might also help you to get started.
Also make a nandroid backup before you edit anything on the system partition in case you (accidentally) mess something up, this why you can alway revert back.
If you new to nandroid as well, some searching on that should also give all the answers needed.

[Q] Visionary temp root doesn't work anymore.

With r14, it adds Superuser and then keeps cycling through the temp root process until I hit back or home. Of course none of my apps have root access anymore and I get denied on terminal emulator. So what recourse do I have besides re-flash my phone to factory?
Read the Wiki!! gfree is the way to be!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Sora3087 said:
With r14, it adds Superuser and then keeps cycling through the temp root process until I hit back or home. Of course none of my apps have root access anymore and I get denied on terminal emulator. So what recourse do I have besides re-flash my phone to factory?
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One of the reasons people recommend against using Visionary is because it can be wonky. If you are still S-ON than nothing permanent can be done with /system but maybe one of the other folders that gets modified when Visionary does it's temp root got messed up.
Why are you using temp-rooting? I know I used temp root (using visionary) for the first month I had my phone in case something went wrong and I needed to return it. The gfree permanent root method isn't hard (other than getting ADB working which can be tricky) and will solve your problem.
been doing my reading
my radio is 26.03.02.26_M
which means gfree wont work and i need to downgrade, right?
also i ran into the issues listed on S-Off no root
cp: can't stat `/system/xbin/busybox': Not a directory
etc...
so do i need to downgrade first and how?
Sora3087 said:
been doing my reading
my radio is 26.03.02.26_M
which means gfree wont work and i need to downgrade, right?
also i ran into the issues listed on S-Off no root
cp: can't stat `/system/xbin/busybox': Not a directory
etc...
so do i need to downgrade first and how?
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I have the same radio as you, I used the gfree method 2-3 days ago and, it worked for me.
I'm using this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871344

[Q] Unrevoked 3 on Debranded HTC Desire not really rooting - SOLVED

Hi all,
I tried to search on this and didn't uncover my exact scenario. My issue is that after I successfully unrevoke my HTC Desire, I can't install BusyBox. I also get errors when I try to run Alpharev and by running adb su on the phone it says I don't have permissions, so clearly it's done something (I have Clockwork recovery now and also the Superuser app) but the root seems to be incomplete. Let me list everything out...
On my Stock Softbank Froyo 2.2 (HBOOT 0.93-0001, S-ON):
- Ran Unrevoked 3. This reported success.
- Rebooted.
- Attempted to install BusyBox via the installer app from market. I went to install to xbin and it says 'The application failed, either because your device is not nand unlocked or we were unable to remount'. Obviously I am not NAND unlocked at the moment.
- Ran Titanium backup. It says 'phone NOT rooted'.
- Ran Root Checker. It reports that the phone is rooted.
- So I tried Alpharev to S-OFF and it reports that the device is found, but then errors out with at: 'can't open `/tmp/cmdline' errors during model detection. According to Alpharev's instructions, this indicates that the phone isn't rooted.
- So, I tried unrevoked again and it says it can't root (system version too new? it says).
Ok, so I decide to debrand by creating a GoldCard and using the latest WWE RUU. This works perfectly without a hitch. So I rerun the above procedure *without doing anything else* and it fails in exactly the same way. Really there couldn't be fewer steps. From a freshly installed firmware, I have USB debugging on and it *won't really root*
Any suggestions? I think some people report success with Unrevoked 3.21 but I can't find a trustable source of this to try (don't want to try to use a version from a file sharing site for this reason).
Thanks!
Bah, nevermind SOLVED. I was trying to install BusyBox from the market, but I needed to run Titanium Backup, click 'Problems?', then install BusyBox from there. Now all works.

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