After doing with the PERM ROOT, i did reboot my G2 with volume down+power, "s-off" shows on the screen, but something just happened.
after rebooting, i just uninstall VISIONary, then i rebooted my G2 again, to make sure, i did volume down+power again. Good, s-off is still there. When i came into the home screen, i pressed the Root Explorer, oooooops, i got no root access to open this software....
To check this, i re-install VISIONary, --root now---"your device is already rooted".
All in all, i have the "s-off", but i have no root access.
Help!!!
A big thanks here and looking for some one would like to answer me.
Install Superuser (from ChainDD) and make sure it allows access for your root explorer. Also, try the steps again to get S-Off. After you do the 'sync' command, do a reboot back to your home screen (not bootloader) to see if the changes stick.
And don't start a new thread. Post in the old one.
Make sure Visionary is not set to "Root on Boot".
Reboot the phone and run Visionary again.
Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
You don't need visionary after you get pern root. I don't have it anymore. If you followed the guide then you should be golden.
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superuser is useful, but when i redid this step"# /data/local/tmp/root",it was told that # /data/local/tmp/root not found. after sync, i still can not obtain the root access...
fox_lee said:
superuser is useful, but when i redid this step"# /data/local/tmp/root",it was told that # /data/local/tmp/root not found. after sync, i still can not obtain the root access...
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Did you just try running su?
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Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
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This is what did it for me, I had S-OFF and no SU/Root last night.. took 3 seconds..
Yes, if i uninstall superuser, "su" won't pass the premit. If i keep superuser in my G2, "su" will pass but i need confirm it with superuser...
I have this problem and I deleted visionary because I thought I didn't need it and when trying to get it back its not in the market so I can't try using it again to get the perm root eventhough I have soff
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Make sure you have the newest version of visionary. Run it to root, open terminal emulator type in "SU" then type "sync" wait two minutes. reboot the phone.
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latest version? u mean R12 or R11?
v6tc said:
This is what did it for me, I had S-OFF and no SU/Root last night.. took 3 seconds..
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What version of VISIONary did u use? r11 or r12(tested), and did u just work it out?
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I have this problem and I deleted visionary because I thought I didn't need it and when trying to get it back its not in the market so I can't try using it again to get the perm root eventhough I have soff
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Then you'll need to visit the VISIONary thread and download it from there. It was suspended from the Android Market.
Try to do the stock PC10.img to start all over and just go thru the steps.
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Well I had the r12 version. Tried the temproot (checked for su and it was there.) and then permroot (the phone forced a reset) when it came back on, there was no root. So I decided to go manually. Followed all instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965. Did Everything exactly besides step 6. Well I did it but it said that I already had root. So i proceeded with step 7 and waited five minutes (just to be sure) and then restarted. Checked and confirmed that s-off. Powered on the phone and still no root access. I figured that step 6 may have thrown me off so i tried step 6 and 7 again to no avail. Stuck with s-off but no root.
I had perma-root yesterday. Working and tested... mui happy.
Got OTA update late last night (Southeast US / Tampabay FL). Accepted it like a dumbass.
Currently:
Phone works... I didn't get "teh brix".
VISIONARY tells me "your device is already rooted"
SuperUser has my Root-apps listed with green radio buttons.
su from terminal results in permission denied
screenshot will no-longer run (This program requires root access)
Recovery Boot = S-OFF
Confused = Yes, very
Can't re-root as visionary won't really run properly. Uninstalled Visionary and installed Visionary+. Still says "Your device is already rooted".
S-off no boot fix?
So to reply to my own thread once I've gone through all of the steps repeatedly, I wound up with s-off and no root. even after running visionary+ temp root and then entering (in terminal emulator on the phone) su (granted superuser) and then typing sync and then reboot. Did this over and over again with the same result but to get it to work(for me anyways) i had to run temproot, and then run permroot and then reboot. Mind you, I have already done this step before but it didnt seem to work until afterwards. Hopes that this helps SOMEONE.
For people facing a similar issue, use the RATC method instead of VISIONary, you should get perm root then.
I had the same issue I followed unforgiven's instructions
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
after step 7 and you reboot run visionary again and you should gain perm root, hope this helps.
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Sorry, what is the RATC method of rooting?
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Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
allen099 said:
Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
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Reading the thread it doesn't appear that permroot works for MT4G, or is it just inconsistent?
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
aznpr1de808 said:
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
It is unfortunate Google is shutting down non-malicious useful tools like this (they also remove a rooter I had used on my N! - easy root). Unless they are being threatened by legal action from HTC or others - they should stay out of the fray.
I did not delete VISIONary for this reason 9in case i had to do a factory reset and re-root). Now, the new version with perm root will make having to do it again much easier.
I hope the below is not really what it looks like (from the download link):
11/10/2010 2:43:25 PM Detected: Exploit.Linux.Lotoor.g Firefox http://pepsi.romraid.com/files/paul/com.modaco.visionaryplus.r12.apk/assets/ratc
Oh well - shut off my antivirus and downloaded file onto the SD card.
Installed it and tested it. I had gone the s=off route yesterday, so I un-rooted it (apps needing root would then not work), re-rooted it, temp and permanent. It rebootedagain, and apps that need root work OK again (it was not set to root on boot-up). App looks pretty good.
Can some more people comment on if r12 is working for MT4G permroot? And do we still have to do the other steps manually to turn S-off?
I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
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I can confirm.. I uninstalled VISIONary after a temproot and then the permroot attempt and ran quickboot and I actually got su..
VISIONary r12 permroots the Touch.. Yes..
Now @gankin just needs to mod the latest kernel bits for this.. but otherwise.. just like that it works..
allen099 said:
I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Do we need to uninstall the Visionary app from the Market before we install the v12?
I seem to be having problems after I temp root my phone I go and press the permaroot button and nothing happens
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Anyone try permaroot with pre ota (2.2 not 2.2.1). I have no success by any means, need the damn ota...
I tried to permroot but failed...temproot worked just fine.
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Ok I was able to permroot mine you must be quick when you click permroot to press allow superuser permision.
I have a few questions not about the other options in the new visionary r12:
To be able to load custom ROMS etc which options do we need in visionary+ I assume we need the rw option, but what is the other option to run visionary.sh after root?
Also do we need to turn S-off? Just trying to get everything ready waiting on the recovery app.
So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
RealityDesign said:
So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
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When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
itmustbejj said:
When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
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So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
Phateless said:
So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
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Thats what I'm gathering..
From what I've read, even if we do achieve perm root with the app, we will still need to manually turn s-off to flash a custom recovery (and have it stick).
So my question is, does the permroot option (within visionary) even do anything for us MT4G guys? If we still need to go the manual ABD route to turn s-off, is the permroot option within Visionary just a short cut in the process to achieve s-off?
Everything seemed clear on what I was planning to do till the permaroot option lol
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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Arcadia310 said:
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
grankin01 said:
To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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IMHO, if people have to use tools like Visionary because they don't understand how to do it manually - they shouldn't root their phones. Visionary is a shortcut, not a substitute for knowledge. ADB is a must-have as well. I can't wait to see all cries for help once people start soft-bricking their phones because they cant read directions, don't know how to access ADB or, in general, don't know a singel linux command.
G1 forums were fairly decent until 1-click root was introduced and made it accessible for idiots to mod without having a slightest clue. I have a feeling MT4G forums are heading that way too.
Let the fun begin...
i'm not really comfortable with using adb and terminal to root my phone because im not willing to turn it into a $300 brick lol anyone know if there will ever be a one click perm root?
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i'm not really comfortable with using adb and terminal to root my phone because im not willing to turn it into a $300 brick lol anyone know if there will ever be a one click perm root?
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there is a program....hold on ill find it brb.....
FOUND IT!
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
it is called Visionary r14 and while its not 1 click it did mine in 2!
load on phone click temproot
also make sure usb debuggin is checked!!
then after it temp roots open up app again and click attempt perm root now
viola! thats all i did and been running roms ever since! hope that helps!
That might also brick your phone... you should get insurance on your phone then its only a 130 dollar brick but seriously use the rage method or use the new real root/sim unlock. Its stickied in the dev section. Its about as easy as it can be.
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I've never been excited about one-touch root methods. One small thing goes wrong, a glitch in the program or something and boom, dead phone. At least the other way if I brick it, it's my fault.
I'm practicing adb in preparation for the rooting of my phone, I'm aiming for a late December root.
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I've never been excited about one-touch root methods. One small thing goes wrong, a glitch in the program or something and boom, dead phone. At least the other way if I brick it, it's my fault.
I'm practicing adb in preparation for the rooting of my phone, I'm aiming for a late December root.
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Sounds sensible to me, I think the rage method is a lot better, at least you're in control over what it's doing and can see every step.
yea i would love a one quick root im a newbe but would like to root this phone
clamman said:
yea i would love a one quick root im a newbe but would like to root this phone
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Like shortlived and stevie said just try the rage method its fairly simple. Just take some time to learn how to use adb and then it'll be a breeze. Also adb is almost a necessity when it comes to rooting/modding android phones. Also if u get stuck or confused bout anything there are plenty of useful threads just search lol good luck
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Adb is very simple. All you need to know for the rage method is "adb push" if you can open a cmd window on your pc, learn a few dos commands like "cd" and "cd.." then your all set. There are some very good guides to get you set up with adb just check the stickies. And good luck!
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Just use visionary r14 to temp root. then look through the overclocking thread and find the GScript method of Overclocking. I permanently rooted my first g2 and then the sd card gave out on me and I sent in it for warranty. Idk if they checked to see if its rooted or not but I haven't been charged. The only issue with perma rooting the g2 is the fact that if you screw up they can see if you've tampered with it and if you've only temp rooted it, from what I understand, the temp root is much safer but you have to root it every time you reset your phone (turning it back on from an off state). small price to pay imo. GL though!
Get over your fear, read over the instructions, and root using rage. It took me a half-hour to root my phone, and that was the first thing I did when I got it.
I think the new easiest way is gfree? I haven't done it because I was already permrooted. It also should unlock your phone (sim, radio, some other thing I don't remember.)
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There is a video that walks you thru rooting with VISIONary r14. I followed the video and worked perfectly. Just a note I unistalled my version of VISIONary first then followed there video on temp-rooting first and then onto perm-rooting. I bricked my first G2, got it replaced and was scared to try again, but if followed there videos and worked out perfect, now running CyanogenMod 6.1 rc4 and my phone is super charged. heres the links thanks to dcogen:
Do this to gain temp root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how...ionary-method/
Then this to gain permanent root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
Then this to flash a recovery and load a custom ROM:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
And here's how to completely unroot for good measure :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how...g2-htc-vision/
Note: I was running stock OTA updated rom, rebooted to un-temproot, installed VISIONARY r14 from MODACO's website and followed the videos to the tee(first temproot video, even though I already knew how to temp root, I followed exactly what they did in the video to temp root. second Perm rooted following the video, then installed custom ROM per video), I used the link in the perm root video to download the wpthis.ko file and the hboot.img
http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackPrince310#p/u/7/tU9zn_BEth4
Try this. Worked great for me.
joemm said:
There is a video that walks you thru rooting with VISIONary r14. I followed the video and worked perfectly. Just a note I unistalled my version of VISIONary first then followed there video on temp-rooting first and then onto perm-rooting. I bricked my first G2, got it replaced and was scared to try again, but if followed there videos and worked out perfect, now running CyanogenMod 6.1 rc4 and my phone is super charged. heres the links thanks to dcogen:
Do this to gain temp root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how...ionary-method/
Then this to gain permanent root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
Then this to flash a recovery and load a custom ROM:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
And here's how to completely unroot for good measure :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how...g2-htc-vision/
Note: I was running stock OTA updated rom, rebooted to un-temproot, installed VISIONARY r14 from MODACO's website and followed the videos to the tee(first temproot video, even though I already knew how to temp root, I followed exactly what they did in the video to temp root. second Perm rooted following the video, then installed custom ROM per video), I used the link in the perm root video to download the wpthis.ko file and the hboot.img
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Exactly what I did to the T. Great instructions and explains them in dummy form on the vids, as well as written.
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SuperCID, SIMUnlock, Radio S-Off is the new Permroot. Its actuallty true permroot. Those of you who think your permrooted technically arent. You just have a "hacked" Hboot. Doing the gfree method allows you to
1: Flash pc10img (stock rom) without the whole hex editing process and also flash roms from another carrier.
2: Your sim is unlocked (maybe wont matter for some of you but its nice to have for travel)
3: S-off, need I say more.
When flashing back to stock you also keep S-Off and do not lose it via gfree and from what I'm hearing soon there will be a way to revert back to S-On via gfree. Just incase we need to send our phones back in for any reason. Cant leave any trail of evidence.
many thanks
finally got the courage and did it. now running cyanogen. thanks so much guys.
luis86dr said:
SuperCID, SIMUnlock, Radio S-Off is the new Permroot. Its actuallty true permroot. Those of you who think your permrooted technically arent. You just have a "hacked" Hboot.
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Sorry that's not right. SuperCID/SIM Unlock/Radio S-OFF doesn't have anything to do with perm root. Yes, this is the new way of totally unlocking your phone, but you can be full perm rooted and still have radio S-ON.
Seems to be that some people use the term "permanent root" to refer to a full unlock rather than just the rooting ability itself (i.e. run as the root user).
I think what you means to say is that those you who think you are S-OFF without running gfree technically aren't, you've got an engineering hboot which makes it look like S-OFF.
Sorry if this in the wrong place, feel free to move or delete if so, but I had some questions.I really want to root and s-off so I can but CM on it but I'm so chicken to do it. Should I just wait for a one-click root and s-off? Or am I going to have no such luck??
Rooting the g2 is significantly easier than it was before now that we have the gfree method. I decided to stop being a chicken last night and rooted mine. It took around two hours for me to read all the instructions and set everything up. I suggest you read the guide on how to setup adb. If that seems too hard, you might want to wait but there's no telling if or when a one click root is gonna be available.
Doesn't VISIONary support basically a 1-click root? Download, install, and click "attempt perm root now" i thought.
VISIONary is VERY unreliable, rage method is quick and painless and only requires the knowledge of simple adb commands
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rage method is quick and painless and only requires the knowledge of simple adb commands
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Actualy it doesn't. All you have to do is relax and copy/paste. There's a nice and simple guide on CM Wiki
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Thank you to everyone who replied. Maybe now ill get the guts to do it. Could you give me the link to that CM Wiki you were talking about though?
niiza said:
Thank you to everyone who replied. Maybe now ill get the guts to do it. Could you give me the link to that CM Wiki you were talking about though?
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
awesome, so i can copy and paste those commands into the terminal right? to try and avoid any mistakes
Yes, basically that stuff in Cyanogen's Wiki has been copied and pasted from the XDA Vision Wiki at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
If you need a guide on how to get adb setup on your PC, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
okay so i permrooted my g2, im pretty sure it worked because when i type 'su' into the terminal now i get # instead of $. and first time i got the superuser permissions prompt as well.
so i did that correct right?
does this also mean i have s-off???
niiza said:
okay so i permrooted my g2, im pretty sure it worked because when i type 'su' into the terminal now i get # instead of $. and first time i got the superuser permissions prompt as well.
so i did that correct right?
does this also mean i have s-off???
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If you can get the root (#) prompt after a reboot then yes, you have permanent root.
This is not connected with S-OFF though. To check that (how did you do the root/S-OFF ?) you can reboot into the bootloader (hboot) - with the phone switched off, hold Volume Down and then hold Power till it switches on. Check the line at the top which will say "S-ON" or "S-OFF".
If you used gfree to get S-OFF, then you can use gfree_verify to check it did everything it was supposed to - see the Wiki for details on this.
With r14, it adds Superuser and then keeps cycling through the temp root process until I hit back or home. Of course none of my apps have root access anymore and I get denied on terminal emulator. So what recourse do I have besides re-flash my phone to factory?
Read the Wiki!! gfree is the way to be!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Sora3087 said:
With r14, it adds Superuser and then keeps cycling through the temp root process until I hit back or home. Of course none of my apps have root access anymore and I get denied on terminal emulator. So what recourse do I have besides re-flash my phone to factory?
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One of the reasons people recommend against using Visionary is because it can be wonky. If you are still S-ON than nothing permanent can be done with /system but maybe one of the other folders that gets modified when Visionary does it's temp root got messed up.
Why are you using temp-rooting? I know I used temp root (using visionary) for the first month I had my phone in case something went wrong and I needed to return it. The gfree permanent root method isn't hard (other than getting ADB working which can be tricky) and will solve your problem.
been doing my reading
my radio is 26.03.02.26_M
which means gfree wont work and i need to downgrade, right?
also i ran into the issues listed on S-Off no root
cp: can't stat `/system/xbin/busybox': Not a directory
etc...
so do i need to downgrade first and how?
Sora3087 said:
been doing my reading
my radio is 26.03.02.26_M
which means gfree wont work and i need to downgrade, right?
also i ran into the issues listed on S-Off no root
cp: can't stat `/system/xbin/busybox': Not a directory
etc...
so do i need to downgrade first and how?
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I have the same radio as you, I used the gfree method 2-3 days ago and, it worked for me.
I'm using this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871344
I am cheer o all this rooting stuff so please bear with me. I have trying to my HTC and I went through the bootloader steps from HTC Dev and that worked fine. I then tried to do the firewater s off steps and I wasn't able to complete the su command after adb shell. I got the error: su: command not found. I was advised to carry on and do the following steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708520
I did this using a gsm version as advised and it all seemed to be fine. Now I thought this would be done but using the simple root checker and trying to install an app requiring root it hasn't been done.
Any ideas what steps to take now?
Thank your for looking. My phone is a HTC one m8 on the three network in the UK which I believe is a gsm version.
Aksta said:
I am cheer o all this rooting stuff so please bear with me. I have trying to my HTC and I went through the bootloader steps from HTC Dev and that worked fine. I then tried to do the firewater s off steps and I wasn't able to complete the su command after adb shell. I got the error: su: command not found. I was advised to carry on and do the following steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708520
I did this using a gsm version as advised and it all seemed to be fine. Now I thought this would be done but using the simple root checker and trying to install an app requiring root it hasn't been done.
Any ideas what steps to take now?
Thank your for looking. My phone is a HTC one m8 on the three network in the UK which I believe is a gsm version.
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I use twrp over cwm, but it should work too. You need to flash super su in your recovery, reboot, enable usb debugging and download something like root checker to verify you have root. Once your doing the soff, when you type SU, watch your phone, it will ask about root, hit allow. Let me know.