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I was running my 3G Slide on Cyanogen 6 Stable (latest) with no problem. Then one day I say artifacts on my screen, I thought there was no problem, as I was playing a game at the time. I assumed it was just a bug in the game. So I kept on using the phone with no problems. About a week later however, the first signs of my current problem surfaced. The face keys died and no longer responded, unless I slided the phone open. The problem just got continually worse from there. It progressed to the point where I could not utilize the touch screen when the phone was open and now it is at a state where the touch screen completely doesn't work either open or closed and the face keys do not work either.
Just to differentiate, the face keys are the home, menu, back, and the google search thing. But the side buttons are all intact.
I've tried rebooting the phone with no success. A memory wipe, resetting Cyanogenmod, failed to solve the problem. I've since then emailed HTC to see if I still have coverage, since I bought it second hand, and reverted back to the original rom, from a thread in the Android Development forum, so I would be covered by warranty.
I at first assumed it was the digitizer, which might still be part of the problem; I still haven't completely ruled it out. But the digitizer alone wouldn't explain the dead keys, would it?
Help? Any suggestions if HTC decides not to repair it or charges a ridiculous price?
I also get the "android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly" message now once I boot up.
It's most likely the flex cable that connects your screen, front buttons, microphone, etc. (everything on the front panel). That would explain the gradual going-out of the touch screen and the artifacts on the LCD. Send it in to t-mobile, the phone has only been out since last June, less than a year, so it's under warranty. Call for a replacement.
Thanks for the advice, MusicMan. I visited a T-Mobile store today, and its no doubt its under warranty. But here's the problem. I didn't buy the phone from a corporate store or an authorized store, I bought it second hand, and T-Mobile, after a visit and numerous calls of begging and pleading and employing moral responsibility, they said they can't replace the phone because the phone is not registered under my name... blah blah blah. Apparently warranty is through person and not transferrable.
What do I do?
Also, a side note.
In the off chance that I have to deal with HTC for my problem, what is the radio of the stock T-Mobile rom?
Just to make sure my phone is "stock" as ever before I send it in.
As of now I have 7.00.35.04S
I assume that the phone is still rooted even though it is back on the stock rom, will that be a problem if I send it back to HTC?
Leoster121 said:
Also, a side note.
In the off chance that I have to deal with HTC for my problem, what is the radio of the stock T-Mobile rom?
Just to make sure my phone is "stock" as ever before I send it in.
As of now I have 7.00.35.04S
I assume that the phone is still rooted even though it is back on the stock rom, will that be a problem if I send it back to HTC?
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You could try to get a hold of the guy who sold you it. If he calls T-mobile customer care and puts you as a "authorized user" of the phone you can get it replaced.
However, make sure you are on the latest OTA. Check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946435 and scroll down to my post for another non over the air update method.
-Current stock ( ota ) radio is 7.09.35.10
- Make sure you don't have superuser. If you replaced your rom with the stock build ( like in the method linked ) you should be fine.
He's currently in Taiwan "for a few months", so I doubt he can help me from there.
Also, I'm pretty sure you have to have proof of purchase when you send it to HTC... So that might be a roadblock as well. Your last option would be to order a new flex cable online and install it yourself. Or you could pay HTC the repair fee to fix it.
MusicMan374 said:
Also, I'm pretty sure you have to have proof of purchase when you send it to HTC... So that might be a roadblock as well. Your last option would be to order a new flex cable online and install it yourself. Or you could pay HTC the repair fee to fix it.
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Thats why the "owner" of the account calls customer care. They already have the record that he purchased the phone. So if he is put as an "authorized user" of the phone he can send it in. Of course the original owner would have to give t-mobile the shipping address and in sense do it. However it only takes maybe 20 mins? Once his refurbished comes in the mail it comes with either a plastic back or box pre-labeled to send the defective product back in.
Along the lines of have the guy call tmobile.
Hi..my cousin is in the states and is having problems with the tmobile slide..I would like to add him as an authorized user so that he may send it in for a refurbished phone...
tmobile will ask for the # and two other pieces of information...password and something else.
imo worth a shot before you have to spend money!
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However, make sure you are on the latest OTA. Check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946435 and scroll down to my post for another non over the air update method.
-Current stock ( ota ) radio is 7.09.35.10
- Make sure you don't have superuser. If you replaced your rom with the stock build ( like in the method linked ) you should be fine.
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I've installed the esprimg, but how do I install the extraneous files for radio?
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I've installed the esprimg, but how do I install the extraneous files for radio?
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So right now you are unrooted and installed the 1.27.531.1 stock correct? In order to update to the latest OTA make sure you download the zip provided. Both are the same file, but for some reason the one on the google docs worked for me.
-copy the update.zip file to your sd card.
-Turn off your phone then power into fast boot( volume down and the power button)
-go into recovery once fastboot gives you the option.
-Once in recovery just hit "apply update.zip"
-Wait for it to finish installing then reboot.
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Original Thread for update.zip
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC/Manual-Update-for-Mytouch-Slide-Guide/m-p/439800#U439800
Follow the rules in the original thread. Much more detail than I provided!
Enjoy man.
I checked all the settings and anything else that I could think of with a normal never rooted mytouch. All looks perfect...also sent my mytouch back to tmobile doing this. Have yet to hear from them.
So my earpiece has gone.
Not crackly, not distorted, just nothing - silence.
It was fine a couple of days ago and now it's completely dead.
The phone hasn't been dropped (well, tossed on a mattress/duvet when I'm heading to bed but not onto anything hard and from no great height), I haven't tempted fate by submerging it, I've properly nursed this phone and it's still died on me.
The one thing that I did do between it working and today was flash a different ROM.
I'm just wondering whether there's any chance that might've had something to do with it?
I went from '3.4.2 131-003' to '3.4.2-155-2'.
I know it's a long shot but that couldn't possibly be the cause, could it?
Many people have already complained about that problem (just google it!), return the phone (if your warranty isn't void because of the flashing, but i think it only affects software warranty), and they'll get you a new one. As far as I know, the newly produced defys don't have that defect anymore, mine - which I bought a couple of weeks ago - works just fine (fingers crossed!).
I'm aware that it's a known issue, I was asking because it seems that normally the earpiece gets crackly then dies whereas mine has gone from absolutely fine to completely dead in a couple of days with no usage in-between and the fact it happened after I flashed a new ROM seems coincidental to say the least.
As for the warranty, I have flashed ROMs, so fingers crossed.
same problem
I've the same problem.. no crackling, total silence. yesterday it worked perfectly fine, but since today no sound at all.
didn't do anything weird with it; flashed another froyo rom one week ago, but I can hardly imagine it has something to do with it...
I red there were more persons with a earpiece problem, but I couldn't find anyone who's got total silence from one moment to another..
is there info about this issue?
greetz
mine has gone from working to total silent the way mine was crackly was if i blew into it, it would work sometimes but now nothing at all i need to get a replaceable but dnt ave time
The problem is due to a bad connection, so I suppose it is possible it would break cleanly, going from working to silence with no interference/crackling.
I was just hoping I could fix it myself without having to rely on the Motorola warranty lottery
The fix-it-yourself thread is here. It's easily done if you are even mildly practical. I have sourced 2 SE K850i earpieces as a hedge against the future, once I'm out of warranty.
However, I am currently in warranty, so I sent an email regarding my Defy to Motorola as soon as my earpiece started acting-up. I tried to demand a replacement on the grounds that they were offering for sale devices that they knew were defective. Unfortunately, they were adamant that a repair was my only option so I sent my phone to their centre. I followed their advice, backing up, removing SIM and SD card, performing factory wipe from within Settings/Location & Security, and only sending the phone.
My phone had a custom ROM with the "android" text boot-loader so it was obviously not stock but there have been no complaints from them and I'm able to track my phone through their system. It's been repaired and is in "final testing". I'm expecting it back early next week.
Given the perceived "openness" of android, it would be a PR disaster for Motorola to void the hardware warranty on the grounds of software modification.
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So my earpiece has gone.
Not crackly, not distorted, just nothing - silence.
...
The one thing that I did do between it working and today was flash a different ROM.
I'm just wondering whether there's any chance that might've had something to do with it?
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mmm, i have something to say ... i flashed lots of different roms, two weeks ago i went back to China 0.26, still one of the best in terms of performance BUT, i had some trouble with the earpiece.
The first time it happened i thought "ok my earpiece has gone", it was just silent, people could hear me and i could hear nothing. Surprisingly after a reboot the earpiece was working, then silence again the day after... so on for 3 - 4 times.
Then i flashed the 3.4.2-155 and the problem disapperead. No failure, no silence, after 10 days it still works.
So, could it be the problem was related to that specific rom or software i used?
Btw, did you try to flash back to your previous rom?
I got same issue last week, and my mobile operator change my phone by a new one.
It's a know pb with first MB525 products.
After flashing did-you remove back door and battery to power off/power on you phone ?
I think when we do that, we push on the back of phone and so increase earpiece failure risk.
Thanks, I'd seen that thread before but I'm still well inside my warranty and have no urge to risk voiding it any more than I potentially already have.
I have no qualms about having to send the phone back to Motorola, I just want to be sure it'll be fixed when I do is all.
It's a shame that Motorola don't allow third-parties to fix the handsets - I know an engineer that works for one of the UK high street mobile phone retailers and he says that any earpiece issues, they have to send the phones back to Motorola themselves, they can't even source the necessary parts.
If they could fix it, I wouldn't think twice about the ROM as I know he couldn't care less, he'd get it sorted for me.
technome said:
Given the perceived "openness" of android, it would be a PR disaster for Motorola to void the hardware warranty on the grounds of software modification.
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Also, since the issue is known to be purely hardware and there are plenty of cases of it afflicting handsets that are entirely stock, they would leave themselves in a very shaky legal situation.
Personally, I think I'd prefer to have my current handset repaired instead of replaced as it seems to be a little gem in terms of battery life.
As for the warranty, I doubt I'll have this phone for more than a year or so.
Part of the reason I chose it was the excellent deal on the T-Mobile contract I'm on meaning that if I get the urge to 'upgrade' early, I won't feel bad about buying a second phone out of my own pocket.
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Btw, did you try to flash back to your previous rom?
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No I haven't.
I only discovered the problem at work this afternoon and started this thread as soon as I got home.
I might give it a go over the weekend but part of me can't really be bothered, I might just send it away.
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MisterWB said:
I got same issue last week, and my mobile operator change my phone by a new one.
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UK law only gives a customer a limited period after purchasing during which they can demand a replacement, after that a retailer is entitled to try and repair a faulty item if it is reasonable to do so.
Only if repairing the phone is in some way unsuccessful would the customer then be entitled to a replacement.
Sorry to hear that.
Let us know if Moto honor the warranty. It's very unreasonable to void hardware warranty just because of software modification.
My defy earpiece failed after 4 weeks. I had the orange 2.2 on the phone. Sent it to solidvision (they do warranty repair for motorola phones in belgium and netherlands). 3 weeks later they sent me a new phone, under warranty. On other sites I read that motorola doenst make a problem about earpiece issue even when you flashed other firmware.
So I handed my handset in to be sent away for repair on the 21st of March.
On the 18th of April I contacted CPW's repairs department to query where my handset was at 28 days had elapsed. The guy I spoke to raised a £10 voucher on their systems and put some sort of trace on it for me.
And on the 21st I was contacted by the store I'd handed my phone into to say it was back.
When I say 'it was back', it's not the same handset I sent away - it's a 'clearance' replacement handset. Thankfully my mate who works for CPW checked the handset's history on their systems and it's not a refurb, it was sat in a store for a month without being sold, then recalled to the warehouse so they had one to send to me.
I just hope this 'new' handset has as good a battery life as the one they kept...
Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.
The only other quick and easy thing I would suggest to narrow down the issue would be to try a wired or bluetooth headset.
It's pretty easy to find micro SIM adapters for sale online for 1 or 2 dollars.
I feel like I have some comforting responses to many of your concerns.
First of all, you should have a 1 year manufacturer's warranty against hardware defects. You should be covered.
They will most likely look for the water damage indicator on the battery, but if they are all official batteries then the store clerk won't know the difference. If it says LG on it then you're probably fine.
I saw an "unroot" option in SuperOneClick, but I cannot verify that it's functional for the Nitro. Yesterday was my first root ever. I would find a way to unroot it to be honest. Then do a hard reset and take it in.
As for the SIM going back to the iphone 4, it can be done. I just pulled my SIM and snapped a couple of pics to show you how to cut it and still use it. I didn't cut it myself, it was done by an ebay seller that reactivated my Unlimited Data plan and mailed me the card. He thought I had an iphone 4 so he cut it. I then told him I didn't have the iphone 4 so he set it back in and sent the whole card. It's worked in several phones since then.
I say if you love the Nitro then don't worry. AT&T should honor the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. I've never dealt with it so I don't know how they'll handle it, but they should take care of you.
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
gte460z said:
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Thank you, what I was seeing was indeed the little pink crosses.
@gmkelly - thanks for the tip, I tried it out and my wired mic does work.
After unplugging the mic, I set it aside and when I checked again, the nitro's mic was working. I made a call and halfway through the issue started up again. Since then, I have replicated the issue multiple times using the recording app. The mic will work, and then usually stops working again after a few minutes of it being on, usually about 3.5 minutes. Thus the problem is intermittent, and I can replicate the problem for an AT&T rep.
What I really need to know is what to do about it being rooted.
EDIT: Dammit, I am having trouble replicating the problem now. Is there a chance that something in the headphone port is causing this. Ahh, I have a program to write for a C++ class and this is not a good time for this to be happening. Been recording now for 10 minutes and the mic is still working fine.
EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful here.
red_solo_cup said:
Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.
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gte460z said:
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Oh btw, I recalled something an AT&T rep asked me when I was sending back the Atrix for an RMA. He didn't ask me to check the battery for water damage by looking at the pink crosses, he asked me to look for a white dot on the phone itself. The same white dot is on this phone. U can see it right above the middle screw to the right of the SD embossed sign. That white dot will change color (I forgot what color he said, maybe pink too) if the phone is water damaged.
I think nowadays the battery moisture indicator does not really apply anymore. At my job, we have tons of BB batteries that has indicators showing moisture damage but works perfectly fine. It's most likely just because the batteries get warm n moisture can build up by it.
Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?
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EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful [URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16882142/AUD0001.3gp" said:
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OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!
Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
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Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?
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The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
aquariuz23 said:
OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!
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Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.
Easiest way to unroot is to download superoneclick 2.3.3 and click the unroot button with usb debugging enabled on the phone. I have done it several times without fail.
Which method did you use to root it? I know in the SuperOneClick program there is an "Unroot" button.
use malninion's unbricking solution to unroot your phone and restore it to factory if you are concerned about a root getting in the way of an exchange and are unable to deroot. also, all exchanges of this phone under warranty are for refurbished units, LG policy.
Refurbs are fine if they still hold the 1 year warranty. Do you know the details?
if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?
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if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?
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Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?
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Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?
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The LG rep and the ATT rep I spoke with yesterday said the refurbs are better and they carry full warranty. I *thought* I heard the LG rep say our phone has a 6 month warranty, new or refurbed but it very well could be 1 year. Both reps said all refurbished phones are tested v. 10% of new phones are tested. Not sure how that makes a refurb better but that's all the details I was given re: the exchange policy.
Also, I went through the troubleshooting of mine on the phone with ATT, that agent issued a return authorization that I could have used locally by just bringing the phone in and getting a replacement. I got the impression that there would be no on-site attempt to fix my phone, just a visual inspection of the glass, case and water damage marks.
I was able to fix my phone so I didn't have to go through with it all.
Maybe it's 6 months on a new one. I think I heard 1 year, but I guess I'm not positive on that.
It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.
red_solo_cup said:
Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.
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Or, you can simply remove the super user icon from the app drawer and they won't even know the phone was ever rooted (unless they go into applications and search for it, which I HIGHLY doubt they will even bother). About backing up, how many apps do you have on your phone? Does it really matter if u have to reinstall them again? If it does, then get TiBu free edition n manually accept every reinstallation process.
As for contacts, sync them all to your gmail acc, n your emails should already be synced anyways. For sms/mms, get go sms pro (free) and it has the feature to backup your sms/mms to the phone which u can then back up to your computer.
Don't bother with restoring to factory settings, just hand the phone to them, removing any icons of apps that might indicate you are rooted.
gte460z said:
It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.
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but a reflash = more fun times!
Hi,
I first posted this help request on Nokia Support Discussions on August 13, but amazingly I received no reply to date (I can't insert the link since I have no privileges for that as a new user).
I am experimenting a very weird and annoying problem with my Lumia 900. Some weeks ago, the volume level during the phone call became suddenly very low and barely noticeable. I can hardly hear the other speaker both calling and receiving a phone call. Apparently this behaviour is restricted to the phone call feature in normal mode. If I press the loudspeaker button, for example, I can hear the conversation perfectly as usual. Same using my earpiece: I can hear and talk without any problem. Moreover, the audio output appears to be OK outside the phone call itself: when using apps, music, games or any other feature except the phone call, I can't spot anything abnormal in the volume level, everything appears to work properly.
I would like to point out that:
1) the volume level during the call is set to the max. level as usual (10/10)
2) the master volume of the device, as set though both right-hand buttons, is set as usual to the max. level (30/30).
3) I turned off and on the device, I removed and reinserted the SIM card many times since then, unfortunately the problem persists
4) I did not notice any other problem before this happened, nor the device suffered any "catastrophic" event (such as drop, water or similar).
Basically, I can only hear a speaker during a phone call either keeping the loudspeaker always on or using the earpiece. It's like my call volume were set to 1 or 2, while it is actually set to 10.
Can you help me determine whether this issue may be software or hardware related in first place? Unfortunately bringing it to the Nokia Customer Care is not the first option for me at the moment. I bought my device in Europe, but I am currently in South America. I may consider using the local Nokia Customer Care and paying a fee, but first I would like some clarifications from engineers or advanced users.
Finally, a guy on another forum suggested me a hard reset. I confess I never did that before, is there any step-by-step instruction for this? Or does it make sense to wait for the next software update through Zune (currently I have 8779.12201, a new update however has been already released and should be available for my language within days or weeks).
Thank you very much in advance for any useful information
You can wait for the update or try a hard reset. A reset will restore you phone to factory fresh, so you will lose everything currently stored on the phone; photos, apps, messages, settings, etc. So be sure to sync with Zune to backup photos and videos first, and sync with your Live ID mail account to sync contacts. Restoring email accounts, contacts, apps and media are all easy, but could take a few hours (depending on how many apps you have). If you prepare for the reset (as you can) it makes things easier.
If your other option is to send you phone out for service, that could take weeks. So while painful, rh hard reset is the "quick" fix. If your volume problem persists after the hard reset, then you know its hardware related (be sure to check before and after installing any apps to eliminate any possibilities). If so, and after telling Nokia Care that a hard reset didn't solve the problem, it might just get you a replacement. Quicker than sending it out for an inspection. Hope you get it worked out.
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It makes no sense to wait. I assume you are still under your initial warranty, so do the hard reset...after, as jimski says, you save off any pics or music specific to the device. You will lose SMS and SMS history , and any game scores.
Use reinstalled to reinstall apps after the reset, to get or apps installed more quickly.
Hard reset is a harsh way to test this out. However, if you test the phone before reinstalling apps, you cut to the chase real quick. If this is a hardware issue, do NOT wait for a fix. Replace the device and be done with it.
Good luck
First of all, many thanks to you both for your kind reply. It is refreshing to finally have someone listening to you when you really need.
It appears that a hard reset should be the first step to do in any case. While I have no idea when the next update with Zune will be available for my language, I can try to solve the problem alone. Is there any tested step-by step procedure for flashing Lumia 900 or Lumia devices in general? If yes, would you please point me there with a link?
Both your replies convinced me that bringing the phone to the Nokia Customer Care here in South America is definitely not a good idea. Yes, I am still under my initial warranty, I bought my device end of June, the problem is that I bought it in Europe, so my warranty is not supposed to cover me here. If the issue is at hardware level, there is very little they can do here for me without to exburse a lot of money, not to talk about the waste of time. Should the hard reset not work, I guess I'll have to wait for my next travel to Europe or having someone bringing it there for me to have my device replaced.
Anyway, I will let you now about any progress.
Many thanks for your help.
barrel owl said:
First of all, many thanks to you both for your kind reply. It is refreshing to finally have someone listening to you when you really need.
It appears that a hard reset should be the first step to do in any case. While I have no idea when the next update with Zune will be available for my language, I can try to solve the problem alone. Is there any tested step-by step procedure for flashing Lumia 900 or Lumia devices in general? If yes, would you please point me there with a link?
Both your replies convinced me that bringing the phone to the Nokia Customer Care here in South America is definitely not a good idea. Yes, I am still under my initial warranty, I bought my device end of June, the problem is that I bought it in Europe, so my warranty is not supposed to cover me here. If the issue is at hardware level, there is very little they can do here for me without to exburse a lot of money, not to talk about the waste of time. Should the hard reset not work, I guess I'll have to wait for my next travel to Europe or having someone bringing it there for me to have my device replaced.
Anyway, I will let you now about any progress.
Many thanks for your help.
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I'll start by saying, the Hard Reset will not force you to re-flash your phone. It just resets it back to stock settings. This is in fact the easiest and best way to try to resolve problems with your phone. To do so, go into your settings menu. Go to About, and scroll down to 'reset your phone', tap that, and follow instructions. This will delete all your data and messages, so be sure you've backed up first.
If you Absolutely NEED to flash your phone back to OEM Stock, you can use my link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605144
One other thing to check (and what I suspect to be the problem) is the speaker itself. It sounds to me like you either have a failing speaker, or something is in the speaker hole. Look closely at it and see if there is dirt/lint/chocolate/peanuts/earwax/etc packed in the speaker grill. It's pretty easy for this to happen. Try blowing it out with canned air and see if that helps. Otherwise, it's probable that the speaker is going out or the connection is failing.
Good Luck, and be sure you decide before your warranty is gone. Send it off ASAP if the above items don't help. PS: Flashing back to stock may void your warranty, so decide if you want to take that chance, rather than wait for repair to return it.
Thank you very much again for your time. And yes, I had found that link in this forum and was already duly reading it. I just did not post this because I still have no privileges to post links.
SuperSport said:
One other thing to check (and what I suspect to be the problem) is the speaker itself. It sounds to me like you either have a failing speaker, or something is in the speaker hole. Look closely at it and see if there is dirt/lint/chocolate/peanuts/earwax/etc packed in the speaker grill. It's pretty easy for this to happen. Try blowing it out with canned air and see if that helps. Otherwise, it's probable that the speaker is going out or the connection is failing.
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One last question. Would you please clarify whether Lumia 900 has one or more speakers? The speaker grill on the bottom of the device has apparently no noticeable dirt or other foreign material inside it, anyway I will try blow it with air, maybe it will help. One thing I can't explain to me is why everything appears to be OK with the volume level except during phone calls. As I mentioned in my first post, the audio output with music, apps, games etc. is normal. When I use the loudspeaker in phone calls, no problem. So the question: is there any other speaker in Lumia 900 which is used for phone calls, for example on the top of the device? I don't think so, but if yes, this would definitely point to a hardware problem of THAT speaker.
Anyway, I will let you know about any progress.
Kind regards
barrel owl said:
Thank you very much again for your time. And yes, I had found that link in this forum and was already duly reading it. I just did not post this because I still have no privileges to post links.
One last question. Would you please clarify whether Lumia 900 has one or more speakers? The speaker grill on the bottom of the device has apparently no noticeable dirt or other foreign material inside it, anyway I will try blow it with air, maybe it will help. One thing I can't explain to me is why everything appears to be OK with the volume level except during phone calls. As I mentioned in my first post, the audio output with music, apps, games etc. is normal. When I use the loudspeaker in phone calls, no problem. So the question: is there any other speaker in Lumia 900 which is used for phone calls, for example on the top of the device? I don't think so, but if yes, this would definitely point to a hardware problem of THAT speaker.
Anyway, I will let you know about any progress.
Kind regards
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There are in fact two different speaker outlets. There's the one at the bottom which is speakerphone, games, apps, etc... Then there is the one at the top in that little slot. That's the one I suspect is either clogged, or going bad.
EDIT: Do you have a case installed that might be blocking that speaker?
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There are in fact two different speaker outlets. There's the one at the bottom which is speakerphone, games, apps, etc... Then there is the one at the top in that little slot. That's the one I suspect is either clogged, or going bad.
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Got it. That makes (unfortunately) perfect sense. Chances are then that the issue is actually at hardware level
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EDIT: Do you have a case installed that might be blocking that speaker?
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No case.
Thanks a lot
Same issue with my lumia asian rom...
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Wow! I thought I was going crazy....'cause I've had the same issues for the past few months. When I got my Lumia 900, I was pleasantly surprised that my in-call volume actually DIDN'T need to be set to max (10/10), and I usually dialed it back to 8/10. Nice...but it began to get quiet so that even on 10/10 it was difficult to hear callers -- especially if I was standing outside. I thought it had to do with a ROM or firmware update, but so few people noted the same problem that I just assumed my phone was faulty.
<sigh>
Anyhow, I found this thread just 30 minutes ago, read through your story, and (for whatever reason) thought it thru more fully. I realized that since I keep my phone in my pocket, maybe the thin ear speaker grill (just above the screen) is full of lint?!? I grabbed a soft, dry toothbrush and took about 30 seconds to brush it out. I could actually see the debris clearing away. Made a test phone call and voila.........my earpiece volume is loud once again! Easy fix. Almost too easy
I hope this helps.
did you ever resolved the problem?
Hi guys love the forum finally joined !
So i recently bought ebay Lumia 900 they are going for cheap =) loving it!
In my case the speaker was working great actually the first week it was way too loud kept it under 7/10 all of a sudden now
i cant hear almost anything below 8/10 and when i go all the way to 10/10 it sounds muffled like a blown speaker already tried cleaning the grill
very carefully it had dust but that didn't help and also erased averything from the about settings
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Anymore suggestions? Im in the latest update and obviously no warranty .
Thanks :cyclops:
Hi
Are there any updates on this problem,because I am also experiencing this and I think it happened after I did an update with Zune .
Thanks
Hard Reset to Nokia Lumia to address low volume during calls
How do you to a hard reset of the phone. I am ready to try that to solve the low volume problem. I literally took the phone out of the box on Thursday last week. I am getting very frustrated.
Thanks
I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?
This is what I would do...
Well, the only thing you can do that I know of is to try and sell it like it is or for parts.
Be honest in the description but be satisfied with the income because its actually pretty high.
1. remove all personal info including all synced accounts to the phone
1a. Make sure you take the sim too
2. soft reset
3. hard reset
4. clear the cache on the device
5. reboot to make sure everything runs smoothly
buy a new phone.
That's what i'd do. Not a XDA expert. Maybe if you hold onto it for a few months a solution will come up.
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I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?
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There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??
Maxninja said:
There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??
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For the most part, she uses a Bluetooth headset. I also use at&t and call quality is fine for my Nexus 6p
Yes, but she has a 6 E+ correct? As I said, the antenna of the phone is located on the bottom and thus holding the bottom WILL cause call quality to be little to none leading to dropped calls. It sucks so I use a headset to avoid that and/or I hold it differently. That is the only thing 'bad' about it.
Yes, yes, comparing 'other' phones isn't going to help to justify call quality; it's redundant. I gave the two best options to fix the issue; hold the phone differently than the bottom and if it still doesn't work normal, keep on bugging AT&T for replacement(s). Those are the options. If you don't like either of those, (just my hunch ?) sell it and hope to get enough money for a new phone.