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The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
EDIT: Also I did a camera and video comparison. The picture and video quality is just better on the Aria. Maybe it's just my Evo.
booloobunny said:
The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
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It's the Damn FPS LOCK! My parents have the incredible and that also feels sooo much smoother. Come on HTC give us a factory fix instead of leaving it to the Devs again! They will fix it! But they shouldn't have to!
P.S. we don't call the Android op sys OS 2.2 its not an iphoney....its froyo ....just messn with Ya I couldn't resist
Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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100% absolutely.
Very much so yes.
I went from CM6 with a 53 FPS avg to test Fresh 3 with the stock HTC kernel with 29 FPS avg. Night and day difference navigating around the phone. It really is that bad. It's a shame HTC is stonewalling on the situation.
-NO fps lock
That's it... I'm running CM-1 with netarchy fix I think... anyway, it's NIGHT and DAY difference. Do yourself a favor and get a rom/kernel with a fix.
Mine benchmarks just fine now... infact, with Cm6 + Snap kernel, I benchmark a bit better than most snapdragon phones.
30.3 on neocore, HOLLA'.
Its not just the fps lock, it also has alot to do with the graphics accelerator. For one HTC didnt include the proper drivers for the graphics to run at full speed and not only that but it is not an indipendent G.A. it is "intergrated". In other words, if youve ever bought a new graphics card for your computer because most of us nerds know that most comps. bought out there have "intergrated" fx cards. They are built into the motherboard, therefor sucking more energy and resources from all the other parts of the computer. Its the same way with this phone, another thing is the HDMI output. Just like a computer if you want to have a nice vid card and also have a tv tuner or another output you would need to take up 2 slots, well you can only fit so many slots in a phone.
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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not just placebo. Like others have noticed there are Android phones that do not have the fps cap that do run smoother and are equal or less as far as processor and gpu specs go. I have been building pc gaming rigs for the last 8 or so years so I do know the difference not going by word of mouth and also agree with BALeR's post that its not just the fps cap. I didn't mention the gpu in my earlier post because I have used the incredible and it does run smoother loaded up, Not rooted than my evo was stock. Yes might be using different drivers also. The majority of the peeps who use the fps hack can't all be seeing placebo effects. There is some truth to the matter might not be huge but enough non the less for a noticeable difference. Not flaming or saying you are wrong, just defending what I posted.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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I would have to disagree. When I first started using netarchy's kernel for my evo it felt like butter
If the FPS unlock is a placebo than so is Chemo for cancer patients.
lol. yeah SERIOUSLY. I've gone back and forth from stock to Netarchy a dozen times, and I can instantly tell which is which.
My girlfriend has an EVO as well. She wasn't convinced either, so we took both phones, stripped our Sense "Scenes" to "Clean Slate", removed battery covers (I have carbon fiber on the back of mine.) and I had to guess who's was whos.
All I had to do was swipe once or twice and I knew which phone was mine vs hers. we did that probably a dozen times and I got it every single time.
I wasn't going off of some blemish or marking that my phone had that hers didn't, it was solely based on a BLANK screen. (default background of course.) and swiping back and forth.
No, but you're right.. it's make believe, like Toothpaste and the female orgasm.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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LOL,the nerve of some people..So its a Placebo that I and 100's of other people see a huge difference in the over all "snappyness" of the phone when using a fix?...You can't be serious...placebo,lol....Linpack and CM6 isn't all that's out their sir.Seems like you need some real world experiences with other roms and unlocking FPS before posting.
The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
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The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
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Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
felacio said:
Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I can't find actual specs for the screens refresh rate. (excluding the fps cap)
But, I believe the reason we feel so much lag is that the screen is capable of 60hz, which, all LCD screens are now a days. but the cap of 30fps is allowing the screen to refresh 2 times before another frame is drawn, giving us that feeling a lag.
again, this is just my thought on the whole thing as I can't find solid specs of the device, only a bunch of sites that say the 30 fps is a cap on the screens refresh rate. which, ...don't have to be the same thing.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Wholly inaccurate. Netarchy's kernel shows a dramatic improvement in touch response in addition to improved framerate when scrolling. It's not just a placebo and it's borderline irresponsible to say otherwise.
CyanogenMod wins agian!
I'm actually thinking about the Epic if it gets CM6 support...
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Come back to us when you compare a Stock Nexus One or Incredible and a Stock Evo.
Again, scrolling between screens and apps... one can see a BIG difference.
The 30fps cap puts a TOUCH INPUT LAG. This makes it feel like the phone is lagging behind you. You swipe across the screen and the phone actually registers it around half a second after you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo
Looks like someone's a pretty big hypocrite... Twilk, you need to do some reading and learning.
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On top of that, I put the Cm6 Snap Kernel on top of the Cm6-RC1...
I get higher 3d benchmarks. For example...
-16.8 fps on Nenamark (formerly... 10'ish fps)
-30.3 fps on Neocore (formerly 25'ish)
-43 fps on GL Benchmark HD 1.1 (formerly 28'ish)
Install a Custom Rom, Netarchy's latest kernel and then Launcher Pro. You will notice a big difference
I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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Yeah Mine Does This As Well Try V6 Supercharger Mod It Helps Alot
I have the same thing...it seems like its a issue with 2d graphics
I wonder why that is... it's not like the Adreno in our phones has less 2d performance than the Tegra or the SGX540 @ 200 Mhz. Hopefully we can get an update to fix this.
it would help if people complaining about this micro lag can show a video of what is happening, as it games and apps runs smooth like butter in my phone
check there aren't too many unnecessary left over apps hanging in the background, make sure when you exit an app, it's actually exited, quit
simply closing or changing to another screen / app will leave the other apps running in the background
that's the only times i get those micro lags
this phone runs sooooo smooth, even with multiple apps running simultaneously, even under heavy file access
in my old Nexus S it would have halted the phone until the file copy process finished, before i can even run a game while waiting for the copy to finish
only under those situations i get micro lags, otherwise this phone is incredibly smooth when there's nothing else running in the background
I don't really have a way to capture it on video or I would. For me, it happens to the same extent whether I have no apps open or a ton. It seems like either some people are more sensitive to it, or some people got bad phones like with the blobs.
I suppose I might be experiencing "micro stuttering" but only if I really pay attention. Yeah, this phone is smooth like butter. Then again, i'm coming from an Eris. I experience no lag though. Everything is smooth. now i'm running bomba-deery-air or whatever it's called with the jugs kernal so I could OC it to 1.8 but it was already fast. I was just being greedy. Just putting my experience out there. Have had the phone for a couple weeks now.
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Okay, I just started experiencing real lag, albeit momentary lag, not like any lag I've experienced on any windows machine or device I've ever used, while downloading a couple torrents in the background. But considering we've only got a gig of ram that's not a bad right? I'm still not complaining. Phone still kicks [email protected]%! As far as I'm concerned.
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i experience skipping or micro stutter on home screen .
If you take your finger and slide to right or left like your scrolling to next home screen. first start very very slow. then speed up a tad then try fast ..
you will see skipping or stuttering of the icons at medium scroll speed.
i dont have a camera to photograph it.
the att galaxy s2 doesnt do this. its like a ghosting like gaming on a 5 ms led monitor a 2ms moniter reduces it.
guys i have this problem too, then i start playing with the voltage and now i'm getting to the point where its completely gone. Undervolt is generally good but some phone use more voltage than other.
also using system tuner pro mess around with the memory a little, under "visible application" i see twlauncher is there, i increase it to 24mb and it seems to help.. again i'm not 100% sure if these are the two thing that cause it but it helps alot and i also have live wallpaper too and now my stuff is running smooth.
This problem only happens when you try to use a 3rd party launcher, if you are using the stock touchwiz launcher, you will say, "these people are stupid and have no idea what they are talking about, my phones smooth as butter" this is really unfortunate because I love using ADW Launcher EX, but just use the stock launcher until ice cream sandwich comes out. I don't notice these micro studders at all anywhere else throughout the phone, this phone is bomb and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. I have the white one and love it. Its beautiful. Just can't wait for samsung to fix this lil problem in 3rd party launchers.
If you are talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414929
flash a skyrocket rom, itll be waaaay better, i promise
I'm using ADW and experiencing no stuttering, micro or otherwise.
I've tried adw, ics, and go launcher ex. All of them suffer from the same problems on the more popular roms, although adw is the least problematic. I don't have this problem anymore since I installed domination rom 2.0. Games, apps, scrolling... no more stuttering... it's as smooth as an iPhone 4s unless the launcher rebooted... and even then it's only a few seconds till it's back to it's creamy state of tranquility
My SGSII HercuDom needs more w00t. It always needs more w00t!
Most people are blind to it. As a user of all platforms I can tell you there is significant stuttering on my SGS2 with any ROM.
So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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If it is in the T989 forum it will work on your phone if it is the T989.
I was one of the first on the EVO band wagon with Sprint..
After a long time, of promising me 4G and waiting for the Galaxy Nexus to come out for Sprint.. I'm not waiting any longer..
T-Mobile is giving away GSII 's this weekend.. and I'm making the switch..
Looking for some tips and tricks here..
I know the phone is much faster than my EVO..
What are some things I should know about this phone?
T-Mobiles service is lightning fast for a glorified 3G (HSPA)
My EVO is rooted and I'm running Cyanogen Rom..
I would like to Root my GSII and eventually within a few weeks put a ROM on it..
Now.. Is it all basically the same? Rom manager? Reboot into recovery ? RA,Clockwork?
Flash zips?
How is the battery life? I deal with pretty good Battery life with my EVO.. after much time with messing with Kernels and such..
How is the Camera? Pictures looked great from me playing with it...
Duel Core 1.5 CPU ?? Seems awesome.. Galaxy Nexus is only 1.2 or something..
Screen quality as well looks amazing!!
Anything else you guys can tell me about this phone, I would appreciate it ,..
THANKS
Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
Hey dude, I was in the same boat as you. I had a HTC Evo running Cyanogen, too. I just got my SG2 last Friday and everything was pretty painless in terms of getting everything done. There were a few things that were confusing and frustrating, but it's really really easy to root and everything.
First thing you're going to want to do is follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332103
The first time you get into Odin and recovery and everything can be frustrating, so you're going to want to keep your battery cover off in the mean time until you can flash the recovery onto there and all that jazz.
Once you've got recovery installed and rooted, you can start flashing ROMs. The ROM I'm using is Juggernaut, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642. It's got the most features, in my opinion, and runs rock solid. One thing I like about it is that I can reboot into recovery while in the ROM, so I don't have to shut it off, do the key presses to get in there. Makes it way easier when flashing new themes, etc. etc. After putting on a custom ROM, I moved on to flashing a theme, which brings Gingerbread up to look like ICS. I used this theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341526.
In terms of battery life, I'm constantly texting with vibration on, using 3G/4G to listen to music and browse the web. I'm starting at about 8 or 8:30 am and get done with work at about 3 or 4, and by the time I get home I'm sitting at like 35 or 40% charge. This is on the Bullet kernel that comes with the Juggernaut ROM. In terms of the speed of the processor, it's fast. Really fast - better than the one we have in the EVO. The camera is awesome, too. I use a program called HDR Camera+ to do HDR pics, and it's awesome. Cost $3.99 int he market, but the stock camera takes awesome pictures, too. Videos on it are awesome. Here's one I took last night to show a friend the colour changing on my new gaming keyboard using the stock camera program to record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geiPjeNjfiU
Sure I'll answer! Hi, and welcome to the sgs2 T-Mobile section!
1: you should know the phone has a way better screen then the evo, hmm probably lacking devs, since there were probably many for the evo. No issues honestly. GPS calls etc. Perfect. Well close to.
2: yes, rom manager, clockwork, etc same flashable zip
3: battery life is something you don't have to worry about, the evo battery sucked, HTC+battery is a no go.
4: camera is ehh, better than the nexus, but not better than the original sgs2.
5: 1.5 vs 1.2 actually the nexus is faster than our phone, but you can't tell much.
6: I mean from the sgs 2 to the evo is a big jump, honestly you'll enjoy this phone!
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Yep.. i'm pretty excited..
Few more questions if you guys don't mind..
How does it score on "Quadrant" ?
Finally, since we're all using T-mobile here.. My fathers co-worker just got this phone as well .. and on a speedtest he is averaging anywhere from 4-10 down and 2-4 up
To me, that seems incredible.. Actually, it seems almost TOO FAST.. as if its just going to show those speeds on the initial speed test, then slow down. ??
I use about 4-5 gigs a month, I use Slingplayer,Netflix,HBOGO, sportstracker live, and many other bandwidth dependent programs..
With those speeds all those I just listed would work flawlessly ....
Is it accurate? Are you guys happy with the speeds??
EDIT** Also, I assume I can get rid of the bloatware and other stuff Samsung puts on these phones with a rom?? Right?
EDIT #2.. lol
No ICS roms yet?
Will ICS come out for this phone?? I assume its more than powerful enough.. No leaked versions yet? I mean, the EVO already has one.. Very alpha stage, but still...
I just got the white tmobile version from the sprint version which I loved but both 3G/4G suck balls.....so I made the flip I use sprint for voice only 30bucks a month.....then I got the $30 5GB 100min on tmobile....my 4G speeds are very fast between 11-22mpbs !!! I barley got 3mpbs on sprint 4G........performance wise I knew the processor was different and went almost looking for a lesser experience ..but hpnestly I really dont notice any difference at all...Im happy with the setup I have and making my cell phone plans work for me and not get screwed by carriers
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THanks..
I just realized.. NO google wallet for this phone..
Husam2011 said:
Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
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wrong
if you run exynos 1.2ghz and compare it to our 1.5, they should run around the same speeds
the amazing part is that wheny ou oc the exynos to 1.6, then it'd be faster than ours when we oc our snapdragon to 1.8
I also just jumped ship from sprint w/ an EVO. Now on T-Mobile w/ Galaxy S II. Loving it so far though i expected a larger development scene for the device, seems like the other GS II models have been getting a bit more love as far as custom rom development goes. Is they're any reason for this? Besides technical development setback's of course.
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Pretty much the galaxy nexus and ics development slowed down a lot of development...it hasnt stopped development, just slowed it down. There are still a lot of devs working on this device.
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Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
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The camera does zoom, use pinch to zoom in and out..
I have about 3 hours of screen on time and play games and what not and do about 14 hours
As for the exynos being "faster" this is just not true.. the processor is not faster nor does it compute any more or less. the only thing it has over us is the GPU is much better. However there is no game that is able to tax what we have so it doesn't matter..
As for quadrants I have gotten between 3000 and 4000 depending on the setup at the time. but I would prefer 2500 and a smooth device over a 4000 and jumpy menus..
And t Mo's 4G < or 3G what ever> is great, especially when you compare it to Sprints pathetic speeds. I get between 13 and 20 mbps down and over 2 mbps up.. not to far off of LTE.
Well said.
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I also switched over to Tmobile from Sprint last year and agree about sprints Wimax being pathetic compared to tmobiles hspa. I loved my evo but customer service and 4g for Sprint was garbage. And the sgs2 is by far the best phone out right now
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Running EL29 Odexed Blue Rom with EL26 stock kernal.
Just came from eVo 4G and have no idea if its worth it and if so what setting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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I think viper mad some stuff for the phone. I know he has a rom out for the phone already so maybe his tweaks are there you could always check the dev section.
My phone had freezing issues at anything higher than 1.4ghz, but even then the only real difference I saw was quadrant scores. Games ran the same, in fact I think the UI actually was choppier when OC'ed. Never really looked into it much though.
I don't even know why I tried it in the first place, I never said to myself "gee, this could be faster.." I guess coming from an HTC Hero it was a habit.
this phone does NOT need to be over clocked; it is so much faster than your Evo, that you won't believe it!
Undervolting and under clocking can give you extra battery life; do a search on the Dev thread, and you will learn lots about it..
I just want to know if anyome can explain why when running antutu benchmarks I cant even get scores equal to the score the app says I should be getting for this phone let alone better ones. Infact I often get much worse scores not even close to what it says I should be getting. Even more so Im running custom rom with overclocked kernel and its just sad. When u look to see what your device other are gettibg score wise there is like a major difference. I get like 10,000 to like 14,000. Iv tried using set cpu to make it run better with no success. And I tried using the app that came with the kernel to make it better by changing some settings and still nothing. It seems like nothibg I do can even get me scores that the phone should get as an average let alone better ones even when overclocked and such.
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Funny you should post this...
I was angonizing over my scores a month or so ago, and was not getting scores even close to what I expected.
The tests made me so mad I gave up and went stock...LOL
Benchmarks are affected by soooooo many variables within the OS, they are often considered eye wash for speed related results.
The rom you run, the kernel, modem, background processing, data, wifi....blah blah blah....LOL
You see where I'm going with this ??
Stock TW based builds always run the best for me, and give the best scores...(remember, they dont mean much really).....really
If your device runs well, gets good battery life, and you are happy with the choice in roms you have made, then dont worry about antutu, or anything else.
Raw scores are called raw for a reason, as they are base estimates of a perceived result.
True testing of a device must be done under a set of rules only a factory can measure.....IMHO, and unless the devices being tested are paired "EXACTLY" the same, then the comparisons are flawed anyway......at least thats how i see it.....g
I understand that and I know how it affects but its more of a I do notice when my phone is quick or not and the scores usually reflect that. When I had my optimus g with it running alot more crap I was gettibg betyer scores and it wasnt overclocked and all that it was just stock. So I really believe that it should be running better than its showing leaving me to believe that there is somethibg wrong with the kernel or something. I have done this with quite a few devices and there usualky a noticeable difference from stock to overclocked scores. But with this phone seems like it dosent show on this phone.
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Very possible. ..
Most reports for this quad core tell us that overclocking takes the device a bit backward in speed and performance.
I overclocked for a few weeks, and saw no appreciable performance gains.
The end result for me was a stock variant rom and a stock kernel.
I then gained transition speeds with launcher changes.
Nova launcher, with the transition speeds set to maximum is quite impressive. And graphical transitions were running best at stock speeds.
I might get flamed for this, but I would honestly say that with minor UI adjustment, and stock kernels, this device needs very little if any real change at all to achieve the best performance.
Mileage will vary, but I'm staying rooted stock with a custom launcher.
Everything else seems to drag this device down. ..g
My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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theshamrockking said:
My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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It's been said that our note 2 is a bit lacking with the current GPU...although, a GPU overclock may help you the most, while leaving the CPU alone.
I've not tried any GPU modifications, unless the Roms I've used included them without my knowledge....g
I did try and overclock the gpu and I get vaired results I havent tried playing any of my graphically intense games yet so im not sure but I believe it may have slightly helped. Its too bad I had thought that the mali chip was better than the 330 thats in most high end phones now.
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I dont dare say that mali is poor, but I am willing to say that it does get outshined on more than one occasion....g
Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g
gregsarg said:
Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g
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Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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If you liked that g....just wait until the Optimus Pro hits...LOL
It's a bit cheaper built I think, but wow...It's a runner...(so they say)
check out it's specs on google....
The note3 will need to compete directly with it, and a few other choice pieces of hardware in the next 6 months if Sammy wants to stay on top.
The improvements from the note1 to this device are staggering, I can only imagine what a note3 will run like.....g
Oh yes iv read plenty about the g pro and it does sound nice iv thought about trying to trade the note for it. But I then remember the reasons I wanted the note instead. Its the dev comunity and the work that gets done. There was the boringist stuff going on over there. And plus it seems like the samsung devices hold value better and juat plane better ui than lg. Ao I like what I have juat miss some of the faster and smoother useI got out of the optimus.
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LittleRedDot said:
You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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To be honest benckmarks do matter but only if you really understand them and know how to use them. Im not just someone who sees **** score or awesome scores an decides anything. But the scores do matter. If u took a droid x and ran benchmarks and got **** scores and then ran this not you would see a difference. They matter just if you choose to see it. I know many many people who try and try to convince others that benchmarks dont matter when all a benckmark is is a test of the hardware and if u use the same program on different devices you will note the different qualitys in the scores. Showing you the pieces of hardware or software mostky hardware that is better or worse. Like with the mali vs the 330. Or the quad s4 vs I forget what is in this device. Or an amd vs a intel. They show what does what best. If you know what you are doing.
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I don't believe in benchmarks. I can run antutu and get xyz score, then run it again 10 seconds later and get abc score, then run it again 10 seconds late and lmn score, all to varying degrees. It's a gimmick.
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If the scores vary drastically its probably because of the background services and apps doing things. Sometimes there is less sometimes more. U either take that into account or you do it with a fresh phone with nothibg on it. Including no google account. Just sideload the app and then run the test and do it a few times they should be more similar.
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Regardless of scores. .. and considering the drastically different user habits, I do believe Samsung found excellent balance in both form and function with this device.
To add more power would kill battery. And drive the device size even larger.
I do feel they have a great balance here.
The note3 should become an absolute power phone if they build from this base....IMHO....g