I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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I've read about lag issues on this forum, but I wasn't sure if it meant the same thing as I am experiencing. For me, no matter what ROM or Kernel, although it is better with Bullet on lagfree or performance, I get micro-stuttering (hiccuping in otherwise perfectly smooth motion) almost contstantly, but kind of in intervals.
It happens while scrolling, it happens during games, it happens no matter which home replacement I use. I don't think its a GPU performance issue because I've had a couple phones less powerful than this one that didn't do this. Is this the way everyone's phone is, or did I just get a defective one?
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Yeah Mine Does This As Well Try V6 Supercharger Mod It Helps Alot
I have the same thing...it seems like its a issue with 2d graphics
I wonder why that is... it's not like the Adreno in our phones has less 2d performance than the Tegra or the SGX540 @ 200 Mhz. Hopefully we can get an update to fix this.
it would help if people complaining about this micro lag can show a video of what is happening, as it games and apps runs smooth like butter in my phone
check there aren't too many unnecessary left over apps hanging in the background, make sure when you exit an app, it's actually exited, quit
simply closing or changing to another screen / app will leave the other apps running in the background
that's the only times i get those micro lags
this phone runs sooooo smooth, even with multiple apps running simultaneously, even under heavy file access
in my old Nexus S it would have halted the phone until the file copy process finished, before i can even run a game while waiting for the copy to finish
only under those situations i get micro lags, otherwise this phone is incredibly smooth when there's nothing else running in the background
I don't really have a way to capture it on video or I would. For me, it happens to the same extent whether I have no apps open or a ton. It seems like either some people are more sensitive to it, or some people got bad phones like with the blobs.
I suppose I might be experiencing "micro stuttering" but only if I really pay attention. Yeah, this phone is smooth like butter. Then again, i'm coming from an Eris. I experience no lag though. Everything is smooth. now i'm running bomba-deery-air or whatever it's called with the jugs kernal so I could OC it to 1.8 but it was already fast. I was just being greedy. Just putting my experience out there. Have had the phone for a couple weeks now.
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Okay, I just started experiencing real lag, albeit momentary lag, not like any lag I've experienced on any windows machine or device I've ever used, while downloading a couple torrents in the background. But considering we've only got a gig of ram that's not a bad right? I'm still not complaining. Phone still kicks [email protected]%! As far as I'm concerned.
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i experience skipping or micro stutter on home screen .
If you take your finger and slide to right or left like your scrolling to next home screen. first start very very slow. then speed up a tad then try fast ..
you will see skipping or stuttering of the icons at medium scroll speed.
i dont have a camera to photograph it.
the att galaxy s2 doesnt do this. its like a ghosting like gaming on a 5 ms led monitor a 2ms moniter reduces it.
guys i have this problem too, then i start playing with the voltage and now i'm getting to the point where its completely gone. Undervolt is generally good but some phone use more voltage than other.
also using system tuner pro mess around with the memory a little, under "visible application" i see twlauncher is there, i increase it to 24mb and it seems to help.. again i'm not 100% sure if these are the two thing that cause it but it helps alot and i also have live wallpaper too and now my stuff is running smooth.
This problem only happens when you try to use a 3rd party launcher, if you are using the stock touchwiz launcher, you will say, "these people are stupid and have no idea what they are talking about, my phones smooth as butter" this is really unfortunate because I love using ADW Launcher EX, but just use the stock launcher until ice cream sandwich comes out. I don't notice these micro studders at all anywhere else throughout the phone, this phone is bomb and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. I have the white one and love it. Its beautiful. Just can't wait for samsung to fix this lil problem in 3rd party launchers.
If you are talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414929
flash a skyrocket rom, itll be waaaay better, i promise
I'm using ADW and experiencing no stuttering, micro or otherwise.
I've tried adw, ics, and go launcher ex. All of them suffer from the same problems on the more popular roms, although adw is the least problematic. I don't have this problem anymore since I installed domination rom 2.0. Games, apps, scrolling... no more stuttering... it's as smooth as an iPhone 4s unless the launcher rebooted... and even then it's only a few seconds till it's back to it's creamy state of tranquility
My SGSII HercuDom needs more w00t. It always needs more w00t!
Most people are blind to it. As a user of all platforms I can tell you there is significant stuttering on my SGS2 with any ROM.
So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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So I can flash skyrocket roms and kernels?
I just wanna double check before I go flashing something lol. I wanna see if I can notice a difference.
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Has anyone else noticed the Galaxy Nexus lags a lot? I'm thinking about getting this phone but playing around with it yesterday somewhat changed my mind. There was noticeable lag doing simple things like swyping from one screen to the next, opening up messaging and using the keyboard, etc. The UI just lags a lot. This was on a static wallpaper.
Then I turned on a live wallpaper (aquarium from market) and the entire thing just went downhill, the lag got incredibly worse and cumbersome. This phone didn't feel any faster than my current Vibrant.
I was expecting the hardware acceleration to render this phone smooth as butter but it's not.
Lag on Android phones is really annoying, Google needs to change this.
What are your thoughts?
i think playing at the store for five minutes with the phone, one cannot include its the phone that is lagging. I am certain there was an app on there that should not have been installed. Many apps out there are not compatible with ICS so it will take some time before they streamline them all on ICS. This is the price we pay for up to date tech. I had a rogue app resource hogging my phone and as soon as i removed it, my GN started working properly.
Mine is smooth. I know that people call their phones smooth but they are not iPhone smooth, but I can honestly say, for the first time on my life, that I have an incredibly smooth Android phone. All my iPhone-owning buddies agreed
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With a static (black) wallpaper there is hardly ever any lag on my device.
Live wallpapers, esp. anything other than Phase Beam, add considerable lag when swiping through the desktops.
Yeah I played with the one at verizon and it had every verizon app you could think of loaded on it.. after booting up the first minute was laggy but after that it was super fast..
Its really smooth. When Android revolution 2.1.1 releases that should address the lag. It should be out on the gsm phones.
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Other than the landscape keyboard lag bug, this phone is smooth as butter.
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No lag at all... super smooth...
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It is kinda laggy here and there, but i'm used to it. I dont get why its smooth when you swipe through home screens, but if you use the home button to take you back to the default home screen the framerate takes a dive.
My last phone was a Vibrant. I know what lag is. My GN doesnt even come close to the lag that phone had when running a Samsung rom. Like others have said this phone is smooth as butter.
384 mhz teflon on teflon with ky jelly smooth here.
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Since i have a static wallpaper it is very smooth most of the time with very few lags.
I read lot of people blame not updated apps for lagginess, but how can i know which of my apps cause lags while all installed apps work fine?
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Turn off the Live Wallpaper on the store one - all the chop/lag goes away after you set a static one. This is also easily the smoothest browser I've ever seen on an Android phone.
Mine is buttery smooth. I can't help but wonder if the people having lag issues are using widgets or mods that are poorly optimized.
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There is a slight issue that many seem to be having with GSM phones and the 4.0.2 update. My 4.0.1 was buttery smooth but now it seems to lag on app drawer and widget screen and elsewhere a bit. It seems that 4.0.2 is the culprit.
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Nope, no lag whatsoever. I am using a live wallpaper (the weather one from Beautiful widgets). Still no lag. Opened 10 apps, kept using the recent app button to switch between them, went thru 4 diff sites on browser using bookmarks, went to txt msg, google+, calendar and back to home screen, no lags whatsoever.
I do have problems with overheating (and battery, but thats not problem, its just the way of life with 4g android phones), but lags, i left them behind with the iphone (YES, I SAID IPHONE). My experience with iphone 4 (when i first bought it) was smoothe but not this smoothe. After a year, the phone was as responsive as my penis right after sex.
Currently, my wife has the iphone 4s, and my gnex is as smoothe as the 4s, if not smoother.
Tested about 3 different phones. All choppy.
HW Acc is only a part of the problem. Android wont ever be as smooth as iOs or Win7 until they rewrite from the ground up. It certainly is "smoother" than before but its crystal clear just swiping home screens and opening apps theres no consistency in FPS.
That said store demos are awful for android . Ive never seen a nice smooth store demo..bloat ware 101 widgets and 30 apps open will give you a bad impression. Galaxy Tab is awful in the stores. My tab is far smoother and much faster...but itll take a new launcher and custom ROM for that.
wait for 4.0.3. That fixes a lot of the lag issues.
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Tested about 3 different phones. All choppy.
HW Acc is only a part of the problem. Android wont ever be as smooth as iOs or Win7 until they rewrite from the ground up. It certainly is "smoother" than before but its crystal clear just swiping home screens and opening apps theres no consistency in FPS.
That said store demos are awful for android . Ive never seen a nice smooth store demo..bloat ware 101 widgets and 30 apps open will give you a bad impression. Galaxy Tab is awful in the stores. My tab is far smoother and much faster...but itll take a new launcher and custom ROM for that.
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It does lag alot but in 1-2 months everthing will be optimized for ICS and google might have pushed some updates too .. Im sure this phone will end up as smooth as the S2. And gingerbread is faster on my nexus s then ICS is. But just wait and see. Devs in this forum will make this phone the best. CyanogenMOD!
I dont know what the hell people do to the display devices in verizon stores but its unbelievable sometimes lol. When i was picking up my galaxy i went over to play with both xyboard tablets and i swear to god i couldnt get them to swipe from screen to screen without chocking up and freezing. I tried browsing... slow, jitterry, zero response from touchscreen to input at times. Horrendous. I even rebooted both devices and they were almost to the point of unusable. I remember thinking WTF could people have done to these brand new tablets to have them running this bad?! See stuff like that doesnt bother me, because i know how honeycomb is supposed to run, (as i have owned two honeycomb tablets, the transformer and gtab 10.1), but to the casual shopper they walk up to the android tabs poke a few times at the screen, see lag, see no response and then walk away and talk **** to their friends about how much of a POS android is.
So long story short, trying out devices at verizon has usually proved to be a less than stellar experience and not representative of individual user experience on said device (aka. without people somehow raping the devices in store). If i was a store manager i would walk around and actually care about end user experience from the display models and check to make sure my displays were functioning properly.
Okay so I'm thinking about getting it switching from my galaxy s2. Well I went to the att store today. Why did it lagg so bad. I even restarted it and still lag. Expseically in the browser! Went to xda full website and holly crap zooming in and out was a pain! Then on my galaxy s2 it was smooth with no lag at all. Is it really that slow
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keep your s2. simple & done.
It is not as laggy as in the store but its not going to be as buttery smooth as your galaxy S2.
I'm finding the same... The only chance you got is custom roms and kernels. That if we can get CWM going.. honestly I'm thinking of returning this for the nexus...
"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.
As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.
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As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
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As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
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Could very well be a placebo. Could be some remnants of factory "crud" that gets cleared out only after a factory reset. I don't think you'll get any argument from anyone that it doesn't make any sense why this helps, but there's plenty enough folks that have done it (myself included) and will say it indeed makes a difference.
Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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If you don't mind some slight stutter here and there and don't need to run the latest and greatest looking games, definitely go with the Nitro.
The screen is GORGEOUS
Writing / reading email is a joy on this device.
Just to note, I'm pretty sure all of us here have custom launchers now. The default launcher is really slow, but Go launcher / Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher are pretty snappy.
I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.
Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.
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The Adreno 220 is great, and so is the 1.5Ghz S3, but games aren't optimized for this resolution, or the current software that's running on the phone. I'm sure we will see a performance increase once we get ICS.
What abouth tethering
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Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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Tethering is possible without even rooting, but you'll have to install a 3rd party app on your phone and a program on your computer for what I do. I use PDAnet.
So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen
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So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen
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Something to keep in mind is that HTC Vivid uses the same CPU (the Vivid is clocked down to 1.2 GHz)/GPU combo as the Nitro, and the Samsung Skyrocket also. Other than the Nitro having a higher resolution screen to deal with, I'd imagine any drastic performance differences between the 3 phones would be down to software.
I have had my HTC One for about 5 days now. I love most everything about the phone. The one thing that is driving me nuts is the lag/stuttering/choppy scrolling in 3rd party apps. Apps like Plume, Facebook, and google+ are the worst. Facebook is almost unbearable. Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there any way to fix it? I am seriously debating on taking this thing back. I hated the tiny screen on my iPhone but the scrolling was so smooth on that phone. Maybe I was just spoiled. But maybe I just got a bad device. Anyone else?
I have experienced no lag on this device. Bought it on launch day.
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Is it possible that one device would perform better than another? The sense launcher and all the sense apps scroll and transition really smoothly but as soon as I get in another app its lag city. I have noticed that the stock twitter app scrolls smoothly but if I use something like Plume or echofon I get lagging and stuttering. I am so frustrated.
So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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I've had mine for a week and I see virtually no lag in any apps. I'm very pleased with the performance.
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So I ended up taking the phone back and getting it replaced by another one. Unfortunately it is exactly the same. I am really confused. I must pay way to much attention to the smoothness of my scrolling. So does no one experience any type of lag or choppiness in the facebook app or in twitter apps like Plume or seesmic? I'm just wondering if I am doing something that is causing the lag.
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facebook scrolling is tough on any device...
It's loading all of that stuff in the background. Mine is 'choppy' as well but its not lagging. It responds immediately to any touch input, but the news feed hits a few snags when I try and go through it really fast.
Maybe what I am referring to lag isn't lag so much. Its just choppy like you described. It would seem that it is then more of a loading issue than a performance issue maybe. May just be something I need to get used to. I am struggling with the thought of going back to a 4 inch iphone screen.
What you are experiencing is normal. Call it lag, call it choppy, ect. Some people notice it like you and me, some people don't notice it. A lot of Apps for android have not been optimized to run on the new snapdragon 600 processors. Could be because they want the minimum requirements on these to be so low that Joe Blow with his LG Optimus DYNAMIC AT 500mhz can at least play Jetpack Joyride, while we HTC One owners see lag every three seconds. It you want everything to be buttery smooth, buy a Windows Phone 8. They optimize all there apps and have requirements met by each device. Same with Apple. But WP8 has no apps and Apple lacks customization. So I'll take my HTC One with a laggy Facebook and Jetpack Joyride and hope they optimized a new version of them for the new processors that are being released.
Perhaps everything else is so fast on the phone that you are perceiving "normal" as "laggy"
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Yeah, if you came from an iPhone which in terms of smoothness is pretty damn smooth in just about everything, then the little skips and stutters in Android will annoy you for a while.
It happened to me a couple years ago when I switched but it was much worse since the phones were so much slower. But the openness of Android and it's roms as well as the community made me stay. Now a days there really isn't to much of a difference on Android phones in terms of smoothness, or at least the gap has closed a bit.
You got to hand it to Apple though, they make their phones feel faster than they really are lol
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think you should give bad reviews in the playstore for apps that are "laggy" for you.
Its the devs not optimizing code or trying to do too much at once that cause it.
Like the Menu button black bar. That has been around for what, 2 years, and its because devs refuse to update their apps to the newest android code.
Swype specifically is brutal for me ... sometimes upward of a two second lag for the keyboard to pop up.
I realize this is a big time first world problem.
Yeah I really think it does boil down to poorly written apps. I have tried almost every twitter app on the market and they all scroll kind if rough to me, but settled on the stock one for now. It actually scrolls pretty good. So it can be done. I wonder why that seems to be more of an exception than a rule.
Another thing I noticed it that it may have something to do with how android scrolls vs ios. Ios scrolls much slower but I think that allows for the choppiness from images loading to not seem as choppy. If i do a quick swipe up with my finger on android that thing cruises where in ios it scrolls a quarter of the way down. I think I'm going to just try and get used to it. I really like the phone overall.
I haven't experienced any lag whatsoever. The phone is pretty snappy. What is your memory usage average when you go into manage apps? Is something eating up a lot of memory?
The only other thing I could suggest is rebooting into stock recovery and wiping the cache.
Like others have said, it boils down to 3rd party app optimization. It's really unfortunate that a lot of apps don't take full advantage of quad core processors and I hope in the near future most of them do.
I don't have what I'd consider lag, but when scrolling in some 3rd party apps it is jittery.
I came from iPhone to HTC One as well and I was honestly expecting it to be just as smooth as the iPhone considering it has more power, but it, without a doubt, is not. The At&t One I had for work was jittery as well. I think it boils down to Apple makes the phone & software so it is more seemless where as one company makes android and another makes the phone and then modifies that software, so there's bound to be a tiny disconnect.
I still have my iPhone 5 but the jitter of the One is not enough for me to go back to a 4 inch screen everyday. When Apple decides to make a 4.7 - 5 inch iPhone, then we'll talk.
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think you should give bad reviews in the playstore for apps that are "laggy" for you.
Its the devs not optimizing code or trying to do too much at once that cause it.
Like the Menu button black bar. That has been around for what, 2 years, and its because devs refuse to update their apps to the newest android code.
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You can fix this by changing "long press home" to a menu button replacement.
Specifically go to settings hit "display gestures and buttons" and hit "home" you want the 2nd option "swipe up for Google now, press and hold for menu"
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I don't have what I'd consider lag...
I still have my iPhone 5 but the jitter of the One is not enough for me to go back to a 4 inch screen everyday. When Apple decides to make a 4.7 - 5 inch iPhone, then we'll talk.
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I agree. People ask why I didn't wait to see what the new iPhone was going to be like. And I told them it was pretty simple, actually... It was obvious the form factor wasnt changing.
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You can fix this by changing "long press home" to a menu button replacement.
Specifically go to settings hit "display gestures and buttons" and hit "home" you want the 2nd option "swipe up for Google now, press and hold for menu"
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I agree. People ask why I didn't wait to see what the new iPhone was going to be like. And I told them it was pretty simple, actually... It was obvious the form factor wasnt changing.
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of course you can. That is called a work around because some devs are lazy and don't update their apps to the latest android framework...
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of course you can. That is called a work around because some devs are lazy and don't update their apps to the latest android framework...
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Orrr.. Some phones still have menu buttons?
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Hey guys,
I know this may sound like a broken record, but after some pretty extensive use, the lag still exists, and is fairly consistent. I am not Sure if it is just that I am spoiled by my note 2 and its ultra smoothness, but I am testing the crap out of this tablet and in and out of programs back to the home screen and swiping left to right, I am having very consistent lag or stutter. What is everyone elses tablet working like? I only am using 3 screens with minimal widgets and am always monitoring my background running apps and processes. Hands down best tablet I have used just wish it was Smoother
What lag?
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What lag?
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Like lag while swiping screens left to right. Pulling down the notification bar. Opening applications. Etc.
Dedline said:
Like lag while swiping screens left to right. Pulling down the notification bar. Opening applications. Etc.
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I don't get any of that lag. Did you take the OTA updates? they may help.
its not that bad, i bearly even notice the lag.
After installing both OTA updates, doing a factory reset, and rooting, I get no lag whatsoever, except when I wake the device. For some reason, if I haven't used it in a while, when I press the home button, the power button, or pull out the pen, it takes about 3 seconds to wake.
Ridiculous.
Han Solo 1 said:
After installing both OTA updates, doing a factory reset, and rooting, I get no lag whatsoever, except when I wake the device. For some reason, if I haven't used it in a while, when I press the home button, the power button, or pull out the pen, it takes about 3 seconds to wake.
Ridiculous.
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Thats weird, Mine powers on within a second
I did both OTA updates, I have not rooted yet. Have you OC yours with STweaks? Or stock
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I did both OTA updates, I have not rooted yet. Have you OC yours with STweaks? Or stock
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Stock. I'm not sure I want to overclock. I don't want to do anything that will drain the battery faster. Are you thinking of OC'ing? And if so, to what?
My region had none of these new updates and I don't have any lag, unless in the crappy Android internet browsers. I use my iPad for that. Also switched to Apex launcher (which has a decent Free version).
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Hey guys,
I know this may sound like a broken record, but after some pretty extensive use, the lag still exists, and is fairly consistent.
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I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
GeorgeP said:
I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
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I had lag when search index was scanning my SD card for few days. One bad pdf or document may force to do it.
Wow..... just wow lol.
I agree with the OP. This was not supposed to lag, and I have it too. Love the tab, but I didn't have to have it. Now that I do, I won't get rid of because I like it. But it was supposed to be lag free, per say. Rooted and both ota's, hasn't gotten better or worse out of the box. Just has that typical Sammy lag. Slightly disappointed with that.
I've noticed terrible lag in theoldreaer.com. it is worst on chrome but better if I hold it portrait. the marking item read as i scroll kills the tablet. smooth as butter on my exynos 4 gn8. overall this tablet is the best android tablet I've owned but it does have its issues.
also, scrolling long websites take far too long for a device with 3 gigs of RAM to redraw. It should be able to keep the entire page in memory .
Lag...
I don't get an unreasonable amount of lag EXCEPT when opening the floating keyboard in a Web browser. I really like that keyboard for swipe typing with the Spen. Unforgivable? Yes. Definitely.
The thing that irks me more than anything is the ungodly huge notification drawer lagging when you swipe down. Maybe if they designed it like stock Android with two smaller ones it might work better. That drop down should be and is butter on a lot of other devices. I don't get it.
I'm not getting rid of the tablet but I will complain until they fix it in 4 months or however long it takes. Or until somebody makes a sweet TouchWiz ROM.
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I'm not getting rid of the tablet but I will complain until they fix it in 4 months or however long it takes. Or until somebody makes a sweet TouchWiz ROM.
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i feel the same way. it's almost like a marriage, lol. talk crap about it all day, but won't leave.:silly:
GeorgeP said:
I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
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Not that I am aware of. At times it is very smooth , others it is catching up to itself, not sure why. I have seen you tube reviews of it acting the same and many people commenting on it,
Try turning off animations in developer option, it always work for my Samsung note 2 & 3.
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.
I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
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oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?
I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.
Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
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Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?