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Assuming we have root access by then (I really hope we do) will you be waiting for HTC to release the Sense version of it or are you going to upgrade to stock Android in the meantime?
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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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same here i hate what orange has done to the rom it descusts me since this is my first branded handset for about 5 years now and i am used to the generic version got very good and the flashing process on winmo now stuck on android v.confusing.
Don't hold your breath Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-in-may-require-froyo-we-have-sign-up-links/
If this is true ... FroYo (the next Android OS build iteration) will be next month together with Flash 10.1.
Then we can pray every night to have root access + write permission to the system partition !
I really hope we do have root access. Not having proper flash is really bugging me.
Either we get root or HTC Have a sense version very quick after the FroYo release.
Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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The 2.1 update for the Hero still hasn't been released despite 2.1 having been released a good while ago.
But then again, the EVO 4G and the Desire have the exact same level of processing power so I don't see why HTC would delay the update in any way.
Let's hope HTC don't let us down.
whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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It gets bogged down by heavy sites. I want flash to work just aswell as it does on my desktop.
New flash version will most probably have hardware acceleration, and all the functions flash 10.1 has on the desktop.
And -hopefully- it will be a fully optimized version of Flash. So it's actually doable on a mobile device. But I guess that is the only way for it to be succesful.
And just to be prepared, I'm programming all my new flash applications to be able to run on mobile devices (min resolution of 800x480). I'm going openscreen project, multiplatform, multi os, multi mobile devices!
If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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They more than likely do as they are releasing the EVO 4G with FroYo in about 2-3 weeks.
I'm guessing that Android 2.2 will be released within the next 2 - 2 1/2 weeks and that HTC will either release the Sense version of 2.2 at the same time or at the very very latest at the same time as the EVO.
Forgive my ignorance but will htc upgrade the android os on the desire to froyo when it is released or are we stuck with eclair unless we root the device?
I know there is a 2.1 Sense. That's what I'm running. But is there a way to have 2.2 with Sense?
not yet obviously.
you could try installing the android system monitor app ( cant rightly remember the exact name of the app, but thats close, just search the market- if u cant find it, lemme know, i'll post the .apk) and use it to backup all the sense related .apk's to your sd card, then install the 2.2 blazin or reference build and drop the apk's in your Android Apps folder of the "." build, then run the mjg droid utility n make sure theyre allchecked in menu/apps. Im not sayin it'll work, but its worth a shot. Lemme know if it works if u try it
Does anyone have a list of the Sense .apk's I will do a little searching. If I find anything I will post back.
Not 100% sure on this but why not get the sense apk's from the earlier builds? They are already rooted if I'm not mistaken so the only question remains is what folder will all the apk's be located (I can't remember). The next question remains is if it would work with the latest builds or not.
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Not 100% sure on this but why not get the sense apk's from the earlier builds? They are already rooted if I'm not mistaken so the only question remains is what folder will all the apk's be located (I can't remember). The next question remains is if it would work with the latest builds or not.
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I have tried this already. As soon as the phone boots, Launcher2 quits. HTC Sense Launcher was not built for 2.2.
We will most likely have to wait till HTC releases a froyo phone with the Sense UI, for us to properly port it to our froyo builds.
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I have tried this already. As soon as the phone boots, Launcher2 quits. HTC Sense Launcher was not built for 2.2.
We will most likely have to wait till HTC releases a froyo phone with the Sense UI, for us to properly port it to our froyo builds.
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Hasn't that already been done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
as far as i know you can not install any sense .apk's ona not sense build because they use a differnet framework.
so you would need a complete sense build in order to install any htc sense .apk's
nick
http://www.filecrop.com/search.php?...ize_f=&engine_r=&engine_m=&mod=dec&order=size
there is a link for a desire sense apk.. which links to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5686103
There are a couple of releases for the HD2 that have the Desires system put into a system.ext2 file. Unfortunately this needs a newer kernel than we have available for our machines.
yall should reach out to Klinux. We originally released the 2.1 sense but ive been pre-occupied with kernel crap.
If anyone has the de-deoxed version of the 2.2 from the Evo, im sure klinux can figure out a way to get it to run.
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yall should reach out to Klinux. We originally released the 2.1 sense but ive been pre-occupied with kernel crap.
If anyone has the de-deoxed version of the 2.2 from the Evo, im sure klinux can figure out a way to get it to run.
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i'm on it. Thanks ACL!!
EDIT:
I sent KLINUX a PM letting him know what we are up to. I will let you all know if I hear from him. In the meantime, I am looking into what it would take to get the sense apk's de-deoxed myself if possible.
Excellent. Keep us posted.
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's
The sense builds were abandoned, they were an atrocity to use.
But, they can be found on Reef's web page... I don't think they've had any work done on them recently - you can certainly upgrade the zImage/modules, rootfs etc but the system image won't be up-to-date...
demendil said:
Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's
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I have installed "ProjectAndroid2.1Sense.061610" on my tp2. I then copied "zImage", "startup.txt" and "Modules-2.6.27.46-01149..." from the 30/08/10 release into my "ProjectAndroid2.1Sense.061610" "andboot" folder, having deleted the original "zImage", "startup.txt" and "Modules-2.6.27.46-01149..." files from "andboot".
In the end I have sense 2.1 running, with wifi, radio (network) and sound of course. The "startup.txt" from the 30/08/10 release has overclock, so it is not too bad for speed.
So, in a way, yes you can.
CREDITS: To someone somewhere on the forum who gave these tips, can't remember who.
Only the 'blazn' builds have an overclock statement in the startup.txt...
ive wonder the the samething know i know thanx
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Only the 'blazn' builds have an overclock statement in the startup.txt...
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That is the correct one. Thanks, I was writing everything from memory, and no doubt, couldn't remember every detail, however, everything else is as should be.
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That is the correct one. Thanks, I was writing everything from memory, and no doubt, couldn't remember every detail, however, everything else is as should be.
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The rest of it looks pretty accurate
This project was abandoned for this device but not for the other phones ie. topaz, hd,etc..If you want to update your system image, just replace the old one with the new one that you will find all the updates on here
demendil said:
Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's
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i got a simple answer.. find me a 2.2 froyo with sense that was made for a msm7k device and ill make it happen. So far Hero, Eris and Legend dont seem to have a 2.2 with sense so we cant modify it to run on the tp2.
The desire, incredible and other qsd devices have different libs we cant run those. So we must have one of the devices above (msm7k) for this to happen.
We could always try to use 2.1 libs but thats just barbarism and asking for a really unstable system.
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i got a simple answer.. find me a 2.2 froyo with sense that was made for a msm7k device and ill make it happen. So far Hero, Eris and Legend dont seem to have a 2.2 with sense so we cant modify it to run on the tp2.
The desire, incredible and other qsd devices have different libs we cant run those. So we must have one of the devices above (msm7k) for this to happen.
We could always try to use 2.1 libs but thats just barbarism and asking for a really unstable system.
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What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/
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What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/
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Good spot out maybe the different resolution wont be a problem
manekineko said:
What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/
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its actually msm7225 but its worth a try..
now i need a deodexed rom and i'll make it my *****..
I don't know much about the programming side of roms and such (I know enough to break things). But maybe the Sprint HTC Evo base system?
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I don't know much about the programming side of roms and such (I know enough to break things). But maybe the Sprint HTC Evo base system?
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did you ignore what i said earlier? we need a msm7k device not qsd.
i still dont have it booting.. hopefully a few more hours will do.
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i still dont have it booting.. hopefully a few more hours will do.
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great cant wait!!
sorry guys.. looks like the version that is out is some chinese release. Not even the Legend guys can get it working so its going to be harder for us. I'll wait till the official 2.2 is out for the wildpoop
I have got myself sense & froyo builds. Now I want sense with froyo improvements like speed wifi etc..can anyone suggest me how to do that?
?? where did you get a sense + froyo build that would run on the tp2?
Has'nt HTC Wildfire got it's official Froyo 2.2 update? If not can't we use one build from the HTC Wildfire froums?
This is probably a stupid question but once htc evo gets gingerbread or ever gets it will my phone tell me that 2.3 gingerbread is available? then if that dose happen will i become unrooted? I'm new to android i have the fresh rom. i did remember reading somethning about if u updated to 2.2 from 2.1 you become unrooted.
You won't get any update notification if you are running a custom ROM. I'm sure Fresh will get updated to GB once it's released and then you can just flash the updated ROM to get it.
Yeah once HTC puts out Gingerbread for the Evo then Fresh will update accordingly but from rumors I hear the Evo might only get Ice Cream
Yay... More waiting...!!!
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Yup apperently more waiting or not update at all if the evo doesn't get an update by march im pretty sure HtC will be done with it, I meant they probably annouce the Evo 2 and for people to.buy it they probably wont update this one, plus I don't really care about GB it doesn't wow me but I do care about the new sense, the themes and the extra features are nice for sense, I hope we get that at least, I don't feel like spending too much.money this year so I think I ma pass summer upgrade this time around
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This is probably a stupid question but once htc evo gets gingerbread or ever gets it will my phone tell me that 2.3 gingerbread is available? then if that dose happen will i become unrooted? I'm new to android i have the fresh rom. i did remember reading somethning about if u updated to 2.2 from 2.1 you become unrooted.
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if u are using a Fresh ROM its 1 of the select few roms i know of that has its own built in UPDATER, look in apps. Update through that you should be fine.
when or if gingerbread becomes official it will be front page stuff.