Hi guys I've been messing around with my phone all day. I have been restoring my apps back onto my phone and all that good stuff. I finally fixed my phone and when I was restoring my phone it tells me that my internal space is getting full. How is that possible if I only have 2 apps from the market installed? Any ideas?
thanks!
try clearing cache of your apps. If you have root access, download cachemate and use that. you can also move apps to your SD card to free internal space.
hope this helps
edit: you can also try wiping your phone back to stock if you continue with these issues
Weird I uninstaled Google maps update and and I now have 45MB of internal storage. lol??
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
actually now it's giving me the error again..lol 45mb storage left too. weird
steveojp said:
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
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If you are using a custom ROM and it supports it then apps2sd because you can actually go beyond the 512 MB limit, you can make it as large as your entire SD card if you like... of course it has a trade off: the card must be repartitioned before you can use apps2sd meaning that you need to copy your card over a computer, partition and then copy back your stuff.
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
weaselp1 said:
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
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The thing is..I only have 2 apps installed from the market and it's saying my internal memory is full. That just doesn't make sense.
Sprints stock ROM will give you a low storage warning when you have less than 45MB free space which I think is a little high. Thank god for apps2sd.
do you use the stock HTC mail app? if you do, try this: when you delete mail in the stock HTC mail app, it doesn't delete it, but just moves it to the 'Trash' folder? I've just cleared 6Mb that accumulated of the last month or so myself...
if all else fails, you might have to factory reset the evo.
thanks for all the help. so i needed up booting in recovery and clearing everything now it went to like 300mb and im restoring my apps. do you think i should put them on my SD card?
I would put what you can on your sd card...you can always move them back to the phone if needed
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curious to know what caused that low memory problem in the first place? that's just weird.
i am not sure what causes the memory leak; but others i know with evos have had the same issue and a factory reset has solved the issue every time. good luck!
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Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
see attached screenshot
Lennyuk said:
well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
ricochet69 said:
ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.
So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
dahauss said:
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
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My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.
Taimur said:
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My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.
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when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage
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when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage
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So what is the solution?
There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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And you won't gain much more with that than with, for example, ModInstalllocation. I read that one guy reported that with app2sd+ only about 140 MB (of installed apps) went to sd card, while internal memory had been decreased by 120 MB. That's comparable with my results using stock Froyo a2sd + ModInstallLocation.
try deleting app's cache, click each app and delete the cache and then reboot phone.
You will only gain the space reclaimed by moving the dalvik cache to the ext partition.
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So it will not help if i wipe/format and fresh install Apps from the PC? When i googled this some of the results showed i should be installing from PC for proper installation over SD card.
i havent found a solution yet
So any solution to storage issues? Such a shame to have a half empty 16Gb mSD Card installed and be running out of app space...
only solution Ive found is to buy a newer device with more storage space lol. Shame as I really like the Desire.
What will happen if memory gets low, will the phone slow down?
I have a question how do I install apps to SD card?
Why should I do it and what apps?
Are you rooted? I'm pretty sure that you can only move apps to the SD card if your rooted. And it's called Apps2Ext or something like that, you can only use it if your rooted(from what I know atleast.)
Easy.
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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I was going to say that but isn't that just for rooted phones? Or is Apps2Ext only for rooted phones?
Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
it is helps a lot thank you. I thought the reason to tho apps to memory card list to make phone run faster
It actually runs slower to have the apps on the sd card. That was the one downfall of apps2ext on the G1, especially when you ran sense roms because a lot of things were run on the ext parition and were dependent on running from the sd card for it to work.
It is better to run them all on the phone memory, if at all possible, IMHO.
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Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
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This is a BS version of A2SD. /.android-secure won't let you back your apps up the way /system/sd/app and /system/sd/app-private will, and the apps on the FAT32 partition won't start up on boot.
I hope the real A2SD is incorporated on Gingerbread builds.
2.2 Stock Rom, rooted, S-OFF
Apps are visible in the Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-Downloaded section, but there are no icons. Just a grayed out icon with a micro-sd card on it. Showing, what I assume to be, that it is on the SD card, but cannot be launched. The apps are not available via the app drawer.
Ideas?
Help anyone?
Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling them through the Market?
The market won't allow me to install anything. Whether it be a new app or a replacement for these. And starting over is not really a course I am looking to take unless absolutely necessary. Uninstalling and reinstalling 150+ apps does not sound like an entertaining time.
Also if it provides any clue, when in the setting-manage applications area, the sizes of the apps, that usually updates quickly, is forever stuck in the "computing..." phase.
150+ apps? Do you have any storage left? LOL
Sounds like you might have a SD Card problem.
A couple of suggestions -
1. Scan your SD Card (mounted in Windows) for errors. From "My Computer", right-click on the drive and go to Tools. Select the Disk Check.
2. Uninstall the "missing" applications. Go to Settings->SD & Phone Storage and Unmount SD Card. Try to install the applications. If this works, remount the SD Card when you are done. You can use this method to try to install new apps as well.
3. Some people have had luck with deleting the .android_secure folder from the SD Card (this is where Android stores your apps on the SD Card).
If you still can't download any new apps, you might want to go to Settings->Applications->All and clear try to clear the cache (and then the data if needed) and Force Close Market. This may help. If you notice that all of your downloaded apps disappear from the Market, downloading a new app usually fixes that problem for me.
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The market won't allow me to install anything. Whether it be a new app or a replacement for these. And starting over is not really a course I am looking to take unless absolutely necessary. Uninstalling and reinstalling 150+ apps does not sound like an entertaining time.
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150+ apps? Do you have any storage left? LOL
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185 actually (just did a quick count). And yes, plenty of storage. 32gb (with only 8gb taken up) sd card, and 200mb left on the internal.
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Sounds like you might have a SD Card problem.
A couple of suggestions -
1. Scan your SD Card (mounted in Windows) for errors. From "My Computer", right-click on the drive and go to Tools. Select the Disk Check.
2. Uninstall the "missing" applications. Go to Settings->SD & Phone Storage and Unmount SD Card. Try to install the applications. If this works, remount the SD Card when you are done. You can use this method to try to install new apps as well.
3. Some people have had luck with deleting the .android_secure folder from the SD Card (this is where Android stores your apps on the SD Card).
If you still can't download any new apps, you might want to go to Settings->Applications->All and clear try to clear the cache (and then the data if needed) and Force Close Market. This may help. If you notice that all of your downloaded apps disappear from the Market, downloading a new app usually fixes that problem for me.
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1. Done, and done. No errors. I'm used to external and flash media, so this was one of the first things I did.
2. Unmounting the card gets a force close. I select it like normal, but it gives no confirmation, and after a bit gives me the force close message. Going to have to power off and remove the SD card for this option.
3. Noted, will look into that option shortly.
While I can force close and clear data from the market, the clear cache button does nothing. Trying option 2 now.
What ROM are you using? Is it possible that your launcher, widget, or some other system application is on the SD card?
Also, if you clear the Data, it automatically clears the cache, which is why it is grayed out.
If you have a terminal emulator application or access to adb, you can unmount the SD card from a shell and see if that helps.
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1. Done, and done. No errors. I'm used to external and flash media, so this was one of the first things I did.
2. Unmounting the card gets a force close. I select it like normal, but it gives no confirmation, and after a bit gives me the force close message. Going to have to power off and remove the SD card for this option.
3. Noted, will look into that option shortly.
While I can force close and clear data from the market, the clear cache button does nothing. Trying option 2 now.
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FIT-Performance said:
2.2 Stock Rom, rooted, S-OFF
Apps are visible in the Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-Downloaded section, but there are no icons. Just a grayed out icon with a micro-sd card on it. Showing, what I assume to be, that it is on the SD card, but cannot be launched. The apps are not available via the app drawer.
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Use a file manager to look for one of your apps, which I imagine you moved into the apps2sd "folder" on the sdcard. That should tell you the state of the sd card as well. When apps2sd is used it only moves part of the apk to the sdcard, that's why the system still sees the part not on the sdcard.
Get an apk from market ( except you can't ) to fix the symlinks.
If you do a nandroid restore, the issue will still be there cause you did use the ext partition, in apps2sd.
You do get one chance in market to reload all your missing apks, but if you close market it won't remember the missing apks.
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What ROM are you using? Is it possible that your launcher, widget, or some other system application is on the SD card?
Also, if you clear the Data, it automatically clears the cache, which is why it is grayed out.
If you have a terminal emulator application or access to adb, you can unmount the SD card from a shell and see if that helps.
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Stock 2.2, rooted, s-off. Using LauncherPro, and no it is not on the SD card. I can navigate it easily and launch any applications from it that are not on the SD card.
Good to know about the data/cache link. Although the cache never acutally gets grayed out. I press the clear data button, confirm the decisions, and it stays in the "recalculating size" (might not be verbatim there) message and never goes away.
Good idea. Although I am going to report that the problem is fixed now, as I took a little more direct route. Steps are below for anyone that has the same problem as I:
Problem: Apps on the SD card are not loading. Visible in the Settings-Manage Applications area, but not unable to actually launch via shortcuts on home screen and do not appear in the app drawer. Unmounting the SD card via the settings gets a force close. Restarts do nothing, clearing the Data/Cache from the market app does nothing. This occurred randomly and has also occurred after apps that were installing/being updated from the market and got stuck in an "install loop", as in they said they were "installing" but never did.
My Solution: Power down, remove SD card, power up, force close market, clear data, power down, install SD card, power up, enjoy.
As stated above unmounting the SD card via terminal or adb might work as well. I cannot confirm as I went the more "direct" route. I thank everyone for their help. This community, quite simple, rules.
Looking for a way to set folders to install to EXTERNAL SD card (Not the actual apps). Not like apps2SD...just the folders the apps create for settings and such.
You can specify what location/folder to store pictures taken with the camara too, be it internal or external SD.
This is a setting in the camara app...but most apps dont provide an option like this.
Example:>
We have System, Internal, and if you install External micro SD.
You install Titanium Backup, or other apps that can back up stuff and their own settings, i.e. backup GO launcher settings. When you make your Titanium Backup(s) it creates a folder on INTERNAL storage. Now in the event that something (un-thinkable ) happens to your phone like dropping in water or ran over by MACK truck etc...(you get the point) you can't get it to power on you wont be able to get to any of your files on internal SD. Hopefully your External micro SD would survive and you could take it out, in one of the above examples.
So...that's why I ask if this can be done to bypass the INTERNAL SD in a way. I would actually use the internal for music and movies and put files that I want to make sure stay safe on the EXTERNAL SD. Most of us transfer mp3's and movies etc...from computer so we have copies.
Yeah one could just backup the INTERNAL SD from time to time. But we all know how sometimes this is overlooked.
Not sure if it's something about the way Samsung partitoned the storage or in EEPROM settings or something. On cyanogen mod roms though it had a setting that allowed for this. Phones with less internal storage like HD2 stored the apps on internal and their created folders to external card if one is installed, makes me lean towards the sofware.
P.S. if just move those folders to the External SD the apps dont look their for them.
Thanks for all feedback!
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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I wish I could DEV but um more of a tester ! I downloaded some kitchens before but just couldn't get anything going so gave up. Guess I know my place. HAHA
Link2SD sounds like it may work I have to try it. It gives plenty of options!
Thanks
Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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Wow thanks...I knew you could change the location, but that's new to me the DETECT feature that's cool.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Yeah my point...Getting them to the SD is no problem its the apps wont look their unless they have the option to change default location like above mentioned titanium settings.
Side note: seen the post from Cyanogenmod about CM7 being "in progress" the option is there to set default under applications so all shall be fine soon for this anyway.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Were you talking about my post? If so then all the apps do work properly, its just moving the backups you make on titanium to the sd card, not the app itself
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i'm not talking about backups, i'm talking about Apps that are moved forcefully to run from SD, you can do that using TI
but some Apps behaves erratically after that, only SD compatible Apps are unaffected