[Q] Memory Storage issues and SD card Install - Desire General

Hi
My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.

Taimur said:
Hi
My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.
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when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage

AndroHero said:
when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage
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So what is the solution?

There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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AndroHero said:
There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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And you won't gain much more with that than with, for example, ModInstalllocation. I read that one guy reported that with app2sd+ only about 140 MB (of installed apps) went to sd card, while internal memory had been decreased by 120 MB. That's comparable with my results using stock Froyo a2sd + ModInstallLocation.

try deleting app's cache, click each app and delete the cache and then reboot phone.

You will only gain the space reclaimed by moving the dalvik cache to the ext partition.
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So it will not help if i wipe/format and fresh install Apps from the PC? When i googled this some of the results showed i should be installing from PC for proper installation over SD card.

i havent found a solution yet

So any solution to storage issues? Such a shame to have a half empty 16Gb mSD Card installed and be running out of app space...

only solution Ive found is to buy a newer device with more storage space lol. Shame as I really like the Desire.

What will happen if memory gets low, will the phone slow down?

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Apps Still taking up space on phone

Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
ricochet69 said:
Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
ricochet69 said:
ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
see attached screenshot
Lennyuk said:
well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
ricochet69 said:
ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.
So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
dahauss said:
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
Regards,
Dave

[Q] HTC EVO Internal Space Full.

Hi guys I've been messing around with my phone all day. I have been restoring my apps back onto my phone and all that good stuff. I finally fixed my phone and when I was restoring my phone it tells me that my internal space is getting full. How is that possible if I only have 2 apps from the market installed? Any ideas?
thanks!
try clearing cache of your apps. If you have root access, download cachemate and use that. you can also move apps to your SD card to free internal space.
hope this helps
edit: you can also try wiping your phone back to stock if you continue with these issues
Weird I uninstaled Google maps update and and I now have 45MB of internal storage. lol??
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
actually now it's giving me the error again..lol 45mb storage left too. weird
steveojp said:
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
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If you are using a custom ROM and it supports it then apps2sd because you can actually go beyond the 512 MB limit, you can make it as large as your entire SD card if you like... of course it has a trade off: the card must be repartitioned before you can use apps2sd meaning that you need to copy your card over a computer, partition and then copy back your stuff.
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
weaselp1 said:
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
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The thing is..I only have 2 apps installed from the market and it's saying my internal memory is full. That just doesn't make sense.
Sprints stock ROM will give you a low storage warning when you have less than 45MB free space which I think is a little high. Thank god for apps2sd.
do you use the stock HTC mail app? if you do, try this: when you delete mail in the stock HTC mail app, it doesn't delete it, but just moves it to the 'Trash' folder? I've just cleared 6Mb that accumulated of the last month or so myself...
if all else fails, you might have to factory reset the evo.
thanks for all the help. so i needed up booting in recovery and clearing everything now it went to like 300mb and im restoring my apps. do you think i should put them on my SD card?
I would put what you can on your sd card...you can always move them back to the phone if needed
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curious to know what caused that low memory problem in the first place? that's just weird.
i am not sure what causes the memory leak; but others i know with evos have had the same issue and a factory reset has solved the issue every time. good luck!

[Q] Internal Memory Decreases After App Update

Hi guys,
I have the Cachemate app and after clearing the cache, it showed my used internal memory at 115mb. I did not install any new apps, but I did app updates from the Market and now it shows my used internal at 123mb. I have also cleared the web browsing history and all text messaging threads I had going. This would also happen on my Nexus One and Hero, so I know it's not just an E4GT issue. After about 3 months of just updating apps (and not installing any new ones) my internal memory would just keep going down and down. I would go into Settings/Applications/Manage Applications and click on every app one by one and clear cache that way, but I could never get my internal memory to back to where it was when I first flashed a ROM and installed my apps initially. On my Hero, it got to the point where i couldn't update my apps anymore because it said i had no more space in memory to do so. Is there a reason why the internal memory keeps going down only from updating apps? Is there anything I can do to stop this, like a directory to manually clear out that is being missed by clearing the cache? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Did you have it moved to the sd card (USB storage) before and the update installed it on phone memory? Then just move it to USB storage again.
kennyglass123 said:
Did you have it moved to the sd card (USB storage) before and the update installed it on phone memory? Then just move it to USB storage again.
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I move all the apps I can to the SD card. I keep some on the internal memory because i use their widgets and they won't load if the app is on the sd card. When the apps that are stored on the sd card get updated they definitely stay on the SD card but the internal memory still goes down. Same result with the apps that get updated that are stored on the internal memory of the phone. No matter which apps (SD or phone stored) get updated, the internal memory will keep going down until there's none left. I'd understand if the updates were a larger file size then the originals, but they aren't. I also just tried wiping the dalvik cache, but that didn't increase the memory either. It's just weird that I have to re-flash the same ROM every few months just so I can keep updating apps.
Download Memory Booster Lite from the market and check what is using your memory in the task killer. Kill apps you are not using that are autoloading. If they keep loading back up freeze them with something like Titanium pro or bloat freezer.
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...Or Gemini App Manager
Thanks guys, I will definitely try those.
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[Q] How do you guys deal with the limited (2GB) USB Storage?

Hi all,
I know that Samsung likes to mount the external SD Card at "sdcard/external_sd" and uses it's built in space as the "SD Card" when viewed by the OS/applications for the purposes of installing applications/data.
For a phone which is powerful enough to play some decent games which have large data files this is a huge problem because the USB Storage fills up after installing only a couple of games with no option to move the data to the real external SD Card.
I have tried "Directory Bind" and it actually does work with the stock ROM, until I plug the phone into the computer and mount USB Storage. The phone barely enters USB Storage mode and right away the directory binding is broken until the phone is rebooted, with the SD Card sometimes not remounting on its own.
My question is, is there a way to install applications to the external SD Card? Is this a problem with the custom ROMs like Arco's CM9 or any of the derivatives? Is it to do with the partition structure? Can this be fixed or are there other applications I could try besides Directory Bind?
Thanks
juzza87 said:
Hi all,
I know that Samsung likes to mount the external SD Card at "sdcard/external_sd" and uses it's built in space as the "SD Card" when viewed by the OS/applications for the purposes of installing applications/data.
For a phone which is powerful enough to play some decent games which have large data files this is a huge problem because the USB Storage fills up after installing only a couple of games with no option to move the data to the real external SD Card.
I have tried "Directory Bind" and it actually does work with the stock ROM, until I plug the phone into the computer and mount USB Storage. The phone barely enters USB Storage mode and right away the directory binding is broken until the phone is rebooted, with the SD Card sometimes not remounting on its own.
My question is, is there a way to install applications to the external SD Card? Is this a problem with the custom ROMs like Arco's CM9 or any of the derivatives? Is it to do with the partition structure? Can this be fixed or are there other applications I could try besides Directory Bind?
Thanks
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You could try to move the apps you installed to the external SD by using app2sd. Download it from the playstore
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Hi there, if you're running a custom rom like cm9, you have a really useful option.....
Goto settings>>storage press menu and select storage configurations....then 'check' the box.....this basically swaps the storage volumes and uses your external SD as internal storage.....you will have to reboot your phone so that the change takes effect.....
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..
Swapping your storage, it is the simple way to deal with that kind of this problem.
And just for your information, using the directory bind will preventing your phone to enter the deep sleep, so it will drain your battery much faster than you don't use that application.
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App2SD doesn't work well for me on stock ROM, moves data from USB storage to... USB storage
Thanks switched from modified GB 2.3.6 based ROM to CM9, as much as I hate CM9 performance wise it's working exactly as described, all application data is now on external SD card! Thanks
Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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Nope it won't. If you wipe data and restore factory settings your sd card won't be deleted. Unless you format your external sd which is refering to your sd card
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RaxToTheMax said:
Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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It won't get deleted because it's just symbolic mounting location placed within the phones file system but it doesn't hurt to keep a rolling backup of your SD card somewhere else (once when changing ROMs on my Xperia Play I lost about 2/3 of all photos on my SD card, it was a freak random bug but was devastating).
Also note that different ROMs store photos from the camera in different locations which can be a bother for some gallery applications (having to go through folders). If you're using the default setting of storing photos from the camera or music/downloads on the internal 2GB "SD card" then this data will be erased with a factory reset
With GB, I installed Bionic Cow 2; out-of-the-box it swapped Internal & External SD, allowing me to use my 16GB Class 10 microSD as "sdcard".
For good measure, I partitioned the microSD into 2; the 1st as FAT32, the 2nd as ext2. Then I installed Link2SD to help clean up the 'internal storage'.
With ICS (CM9), it's much easier. After *completely* wiping the phone ( /system, /data, /cache, internal SD, and external SD), after 1st boot of CM9, I go into System Settings and swap the internal / external SD, and immediately rebooted.
On CM9, I *still* partition my microSD to enable Link2SD.
Keeping 'internal storage' less than 50% used makes my phone zooooooooooom

Regarding Internal Storage issue - Please help

hi guys,
please help me out.. i have no games installed on my device. only required few apps out of which most of them are moved to sd card. all my music/photos is on sd card. yet the internal storage space fills up very quicly and even i cant update my existing apps. an error crops up - not sufficient storage left.
I have to reformat my phone again and again to get storage space reclaimed.
I've been using Clean Master to free up space whenever I update anything.
Side note: looks like Titanium Backup can remove system apps now. Failed in the past, but I just uninstalled Bubbles.
Now if only I knew what was safe to remove and what wasn't.
If an app can be disabled normally, can one assume it's safe to uninstall?
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Integrating system app updates doesn't work. Tried to integrate YouTube, and now it's completely gone. Crap
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bluevolt said:
hi guys,
please help me out.. i have no games installed on my device. only required few apps out of which most of them are moved to sd card. all my music/photos is on sd card. yet the internal storage space fills up very quicly and even i cant update my existing apps. an error crops up - not sufficient storage left.
I have to reformat my phone again and again to get storage space reclaimed.
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Root the device and uninstall all bloatware from system. also, with some effort, you can install Link2SD and move most apps and data to SD-card after Root.

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