[Q] apps to sd how and why? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a question how do I install apps to SD card?
Why should I do it and what apps?

Are you rooted? I'm pretty sure that you can only move apps to the SD card if your rooted. And it's called Apps2Ext or something like that, you can only use it if your rooted(from what I know atleast.)

Easy.
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.

Utorrent76 said:
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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I was going to say that but isn't that just for rooted phones? Or is Apps2Ext only for rooted phones?

Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.

it is helps a lot thank you. I thought the reason to tho apps to memory card list to make phone run faster

It actually runs slower to have the apps on the sd card. That was the one downfall of apps2ext on the G1, especially when you ran sense roms because a lot of things were run on the ext parition and were dependent on running from the sd card for it to work.
It is better to run them all on the phone memory, if at all possible, IMHO.
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tazz9690 said:
Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
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This is a BS version of A2SD. /.android-secure won't let you back your apps up the way /system/sd/app and /system/sd/app-private will, and the apps on the FAT32 partition won't start up on boot.
I hope the real A2SD is incorporated on Gingerbread builds.

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APPS on SD?

Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
mobad said:
Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
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the linux kernal will close apps when it needs to but that has very little to do with where the apps actually reside.
you need to partition your card with rom manager from the market in order to enable apps2sd( not the crappy froyo apps2sd mind)
copy the contents of your card at the moment to your pc. downlaod rom manager from the market, use it to partition your card with 512mb and 32mb swap. then dowload modinstalllocation from the market, this will allow you to chose where you save your apps too. choose 1 internal( ie the 512mb ext 3 partition for apps2sd you made with rom manager). copy all your content back to your sd card. all your apps should now be in your ext3 partition. if you really want to move apps to the actual sd card main partition, choose location 2 phone with modinstallocation but beware that whenever you mount the sd card those apps wont work till its remounted( its wise not to put widgets on the sd card). to check all this info and make sure apps2sd is working correctly you can downlaod quick settings info from the market and it will give you all the info you need on internal and apps2sd storage on your phone.
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
mobad said:
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
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That is correct. If you are using legacy Apps2SD or Froyo Apps2SD, the Dalvik cache (see here) remains on the internal phone memory.
So, when you install a new application onto SD card, it will consume memory on internal phone memory, though at a lesser rate than if the app was installed on phone memory (in my experience, roughly half the rate).
The only way to "resolve" this is to install legacy Apps2SD+, which also moves the Dalvik cache to SD card.
Personally, I don't do this - what I do is actively manage my applications using Titanium backup. For example, I seldom use certain large apps such as Google Earth, and some games, but I do want to keep them available. So I install them on the phone, and then back them up using Titanium Backup. When storage is low, I will remove them from the phone, but I can bring them back quickly (and without using data) as required.
I don't use legacy Apps2SD+ because I do have several SD cards that I want to be able to swap between quickly.
Regards,
Dave
Dave - many thanks for your comprehensive and useful reply.
What would be the limitation for using Apps2SD+?
From your reply im assuming it would stop me from chaing sd cards?
Essentially yes - you'd need to keep the EXT partition across SD cards in sync, which while not impossible, is more difficult than just copying .android_secure folder from one card to another which I believe should work ok so long as being used in the same phone.
Regards,
Dave
Excellent.
I think im ready to set it all up.
Got two not technical final question for you -
Which rom would you recommend?
I'm currentl with Frost 2.9a however I found Modaco's custom rom to be mroe fruitful with apps/stability.
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
Thanks
mobad said:
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
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I regularly use two 16gb Class 2 Sandisk cards and a 8gb Class 6 Transcend card. To be honest, I've no performance issues with either and my Sandisk cards regular exceed Class 6 minimums. Personally, I see no point paying extra for a large capacity Class 6 or Class 10 card - I may try 720p recording on my Class 6 soon though to see if it improves the framerate, but I doubt there will be much if any difference.
Regards,
Dave

Apps Still taking up space on phone

Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
ricochet69 said:
Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
ricochet69 said:
ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
see attached screenshot
Lennyuk said:
well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
ricochet69 said:
ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.
So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
dahauss said:
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
Regards,
Dave

[Q] HTC EVO Internal Space Full.

Hi guys I've been messing around with my phone all day. I have been restoring my apps back onto my phone and all that good stuff. I finally fixed my phone and when I was restoring my phone it tells me that my internal space is getting full. How is that possible if I only have 2 apps from the market installed? Any ideas?
thanks!
try clearing cache of your apps. If you have root access, download cachemate and use that. you can also move apps to your SD card to free internal space.
hope this helps
edit: you can also try wiping your phone back to stock if you continue with these issues
Weird I uninstaled Google maps update and and I now have 45MB of internal storage. lol??
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
actually now it's giving me the error again..lol 45mb storage left too. weird
steveojp said:
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
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If you are using a custom ROM and it supports it then apps2sd because you can actually go beyond the 512 MB limit, you can make it as large as your entire SD card if you like... of course it has a trade off: the card must be repartitioned before you can use apps2sd meaning that you need to copy your card over a computer, partition and then copy back your stuff.
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
weaselp1 said:
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
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The thing is..I only have 2 apps installed from the market and it's saying my internal memory is full. That just doesn't make sense.
Sprints stock ROM will give you a low storage warning when you have less than 45MB free space which I think is a little high. Thank god for apps2sd.
do you use the stock HTC mail app? if you do, try this: when you delete mail in the stock HTC mail app, it doesn't delete it, but just moves it to the 'Trash' folder? I've just cleared 6Mb that accumulated of the last month or so myself...
if all else fails, you might have to factory reset the evo.
thanks for all the help. so i needed up booting in recovery and clearing everything now it went to like 300mb and im restoring my apps. do you think i should put them on my SD card?
I would put what you can on your sd card...you can always move them back to the phone if needed
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curious to know what caused that low memory problem in the first place? that's just weird.
i am not sure what causes the memory leak; but others i know with evos have had the same issue and a factory reset has solved the issue every time. good luck!

Installing on sd?

I have made some trick with adb but it doesn't work or partially anyway. It installed one app I think on the sd and all other normally on phone memory. I have 2.2 normal android, not rooted or anything. How can I install apps on sd card without rooting my phone? I will root it eventually just don't have time for it these days.
Go Settings > Applications > pick an app > click move to SD
The app will only move to SD card if it can. Not all apps can but most of them.
Meaple said:
Go Settings > Applications > pick an app > click move to SD
The app will only move to SD card if it can. Not all apps can but most of them.
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I did that but it limits quite a lot
LaMpiR said:
I did that but it limits quite a lot
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Have a think about rooting your phone and installing custom rom if you haven't already. I use starburst rom data2sd I have 1.7GB install memory
Тhan is needed and ext3/4 partition on memory card.
ivantodorov said:
Тhan is needed and ext3/4 partition on memory card.
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Will probably do that in a week or two. Is this option available, I mean to install directly on sd card, on android 2.3?
LaMpiR said:
Will probably do that in a week or two. Is this option available, I mean to install directly on sd card, on android 2.3?
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Think its the same as now, the problem with app2sd is say you have a 20mb App and move it to SD card say 16mb was moved to SD the other 4mb will still be on phone memory. Soon enough you'll still fill it quite quick, Using data2sd it puts everythink onto the SD card and you set how big you want your internal memory MAX size 2gb.
I have 76 apps and still over 1.2gb space to install apps read more into doing this you will also need a SD card class over 2. Am using a 16gb class 4 from play.com cost me £15 great buy Pny is the manufacture.
I love A2sd+ nothing else to use!
Rem-X said:
I love A2sd+ nothing else to use!
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App2sd+ is just the same has stock app2sd, apps still store on phones internal.
App2sd is just pure win

[Q] is it possible to move apps to sd card?

is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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I'm not sure if this is present in stock images, but if you go into System -> Apps and select an app, there should be a "Move to SD card" option in there. (This has, AFAICR, been present in stock Android as of ICS.)
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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you cannot really move apps to sd cards but there is an app called "gl to sd" it will move gameloft games to the sd card because they can be fairly big in size and also you have to be rooted to use the app
i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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jonneepuh said:
i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
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Allow me to preface this by stating that a simple search would have yielded your answer in all likelihood. Please do learn to fish, lest you starve.
There is a method of swapping the internal storage with an SD card via a script, provided you have init.d support. I've tried a variety of ROMs from stock onward and never found an issue with init.d, so it shouldn't realistically matter. Depending upon the ROM, the mounts tend to vary but the script I took and modified accounts for said variations. It's really a rather simple deal, given that you are on CM10 my current iteration should work for you without modification or issue. Be advised that my alterations stem from a script that came from this thread and all credit for the original concept is not due to me, I only modified the script in order to make it compatible with other ROMs and to mitigate the differing mount points. It also goes without saying that I am not responsible for your device melting down or your cat bursting into fire. If you're interested in the modifications I have made to the script let me know and I'll be happy to build a CWM flashable zip and give you further instruction, otherwise see the post previously referenced.
Do also note that the script WILL NOT enable you to move apps to the SD via Settings/Applications, it will basically cause the device to see the SD card as internal storage and the original internal storage as the SD, but only while the device is not in recovery. If you boot into recovery you must remain aware of the fact that your data will be on the external SD as they behave in a flip-flop manner. You must also be aware that you should not remove your SD card while using this modification if the device is on and not in recovery mode, bad things will happen (possibly the end of the world) I realize this was probably more information than you sought but it's better to have too much than not enough in my opinion.
jonneepuh said:
i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
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well i think phones that are running ics do not have the ability to move apps to an sd card without some sort of modification
y0yerrj0sh said:
well i think phones that are running ics do not have the ability to move apps to an sd card without some sort of modification
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Actually, due to the nature of the way that the S3 handles internal storage, whereby the "SD card" is actually just a mount that's bound to /data/media and not a physically separate storage medium, moving apps to the SD card has never and will not be implemented in the foreseeable future. To attempt to circumvent the fact that the standard method of moving apps from internal to external storage ("Move to SD") is rather misguided as you would gain nothing from having done so since the intent is to conserve space on the internal storage and given that the internal storage and "SD card" reside on the same physical device, you gain nothing. That is why the method I described in my previous post was originally conceived, so that S3 users might have some semblance of moving apps to an external SD and thus freeing up space on the internal storage.

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