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So, what do you think about this battle?) Who'll win?
The only things that I don't like in N1 are: display with strange colour rendition, camera which is pink maniak (hey, like pink panther) and silent ring.
Will these thing be removed in HTC Desire?
Or maybe it's better to wait for Samsung Wave (super AMOLED display, but strange OS)
Honestly the Desire imo, fm radio, wm playback and ram/rom are just a few of the things that make it ahead of the N1 for me.
For me, the N1 is clearly the better Phone with the Noice Cancellation and way faster Software/Firmware-Support from Google.
I will never again use a Phone with Sense because of the lazy HTC-Support.
I believe the Community-Support will be much better for the N1, just look whats done so far. It was a nice Idea from Google to gave the N1 to many Android-Software-Developres for free.
And my personal Opinion: I couldnt believe my eyes when i saw a picture from the Desire at MWC. It looks much cheaper in real life than on the leaked Promo-Shots from last year. For me, the N1 looks better.
Currently have a N1, but "broke" it (still working, apart from few sensors),
with the insurance money, I will buy a Desire, since it will be available here.
No contenst unless theyll start also selling N1 straight to Finland.
HW buttons are better, going to miss notification led thou. And will cry if fastboot unlock is disabled.
i prefer Desire,because i don't like N1's track-ball....
Desire ROM on Nexus hardware
Get the best of both the worlds
It's not a case of which one is better, the desire will sell more purely because it's avaliable in store and it's avaliable on all 5 UK Networks.
People can walk into a store not knowing who HTC are and walk out with a Desire, for the Nexus you have to be specifically wanting the Nexus and then go online and pay a lot of money to get one shipped over.
Same screen as nexus?
Wonder if it will have the same screen as nexus ... if so that will suck.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/02/the-nexus-ones-dirty-display-secret/
Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?
I'm thinking the desire may be better quality build (minus the dust prob and hardware buttons which some may view as a plus or minus, I having lived with capacitive buttons for a year, despise them). Although I would much prefer the option to have either sense or the standard android, and as I'm not familiar with android and their homescreens, is this possible on a stock desire rom?
From what I can tell, sense is mostly just a theme along with widgets, so change the theme and then don't use the widgets right?
It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Technically you should just be able to install Launcher2.apk and switch between Sense home and Stock Android Home. Although you'd still have all the Sense apps ie contacts etc but you'd be able to replace these too.
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Well i have not actually used Sense, just some of the Roms on my Fuze that try to mimic it. It might just be the Windows Mobile underlying that makes me hate the HTC skin, im just annoyed with it all. Using the stock android on my phone, even with the odd glitches here and there due to the early port, leaves me feeling much more free and happier with my phone.
I'm thinking nexus, purely as I don't want to root my device (hehehe root my device.....)
Although I do prefer the optical trackpad and the hardware buttons.......grrr hard decisions...
For me, it will come down to which one I can get AT&T 3G on. The phones are almost identical, and I will surely root/flash it, so the stock ROM won't matter. I do think the Nexus looks better, and will probably get better support from Google.
Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
htc Desire^^ because I dont like the trackball, and I LOVE the Sense UI
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Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
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Just looked up the Motoroi for the 1st time... looks kinda pathetic next to the Desire and Nexus..
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2251&id3=2218
Hey,
I am confused and i dont know which one to buy.
Which one would you choose and why?
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
HTC Desire if you want cool Android Action from HTC and you dont want to spend money for a silly fruit!
iPhone 4G if you want to have the best Hardware and that little apple on the case but only if you dont have to save money...
Like the first poster said... You will probably find the Desire win because it is the Desire section.
My opinion - Desire is, and always will be, my love but that new iPhone sure does look amazing. I think that if I were to buy a phone right now, I would actually wait for the iPhone, the only thing that might stop me is the price. But hey, that's just my opinion, it's going to be your investment so you should make sure that it is right for you.
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
Though I would say if you wanted a Desire - to go for the Nexus One instead. if you don't want your phone to become obsolete soon then the N1 is your best bet on the Android platform.
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
rars said:
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
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In that case, I'd go with the iPhone. You're guaranteed to get updates all that time, I mean they've only just dropped the original iPhone, so I think that shows a lot.
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and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
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yeah because of that, and also stock android is a lot smoother and less buggy than android with sense.
erm i can't see any reason why not, but when would you want to when the screen is only 400 px high in landscape?
Umm to view the video in higher quality?
Well im going to buy a new smartphone next month and I need to decide which phone to get between the HTC Desire and the Samsung galaxy S..
I decided to go with the Galaxy S since its hardware is way better..
And they said that its gonna have the 2.2
the only thing u will lose is the Sense UI (never had it..)
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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Lol I have a samsung jet and it's basically crap. And I doubt samsungs customer service and doubt that they will release updates frequently.
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Umm to view the video in higher quality?
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720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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lol ok I meant in my personal experience they have been crap.
samac92 said:
720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
rars said:
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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N1 is available on vodafone at least, but not as good a deal as the desire.
and don't worry about processor speeds, they're pretty meaningless nowadays.
All the decent modern smartphones do everything instantly, the only place they're going to be different is benchmarks, which don't mean anything anyway.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
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The Desire can, but in really awful quality because it uses the flash lite player. If you use the youtube app you get better quality videos.
This is another reason why the N1 is better, it lets you play youtube videos from the browser without using the flash lite player which is awful quality.
Can not root the desire and install the stock android rom?
If the YouTube app is anything like the mobile website for YouTube,then it's no good.
hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
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hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
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1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
Desire is the one
Hi,
I was / 'am' the biggest Apple fan out there, had all the iPhones and JB'ed all of them, thought what could be done on JB was brill....until I tried the Desire / Android which I bought because I was bored with the iPhone, expected to keep it a week and then fall back to the iPhone and sell the Android.
Well I ended up selling the iPhone and loving my Desire, everything you achieved by JB'ing the Apple you do out of the box with Android, then rooting it takes it to a whole new level of 'fiddling' and getting a config which you want.
Get the Desire, no question.
Thanks for all your reply..i'm inching closer to Desire soon ...
Just one last qns .. comparing the apps (not including games) is Desire able to match iPhone ones ?
currently on my mind i can think i need is audio translator..
I moved from WinMo (HTC Touch Pro) to a Desire. I was worried I would miss some of the WinMo functions but i dont !
Contacts copied straight across from PC using HTC Sync provided. I did miss the syncing with Outlook until i figured I could autoforward my account to a googlemail account and get the best of both worlds.
video is poor out of the box on the Desire but a quick download of Rockplayer brings it back up to (and beyond) WinMo video.
Games are much better for Android than WinMo (although maybe not yet on a par with iPhone for sheer volume of games - but how many games do you really need ??)
MS Office also worried me moving from WinMo but there are plenty of apps out there to sort you out.
All the stuff that you relied on chefs doing for you on WinMo you can do on Android just by downloading apps from the Marketplace.
Go for the Desire. I was dubious but Im now a committed Android groupie
I have an iPhone 4 (personal) and the Desire (work). If you are a casual user I would say go with the iPhone. If Facebook is a big concern I can say with confidence that the iPhone app is better.
IPhone 4 pros:
Amazing screen
Better keyboard (comparing to stock HTC sense keyboard)
Easier to use for the average user
Better battery life
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
Desire pros:
More customization options out of the box
Better Google maps app
Better goggle integration (which I love)
I know some will disagree with me, but that is how I feel. I love both phones, and they both appeal to different parts of my personality. I think if you are not much of a tweaker then you are better off with the iPhone. Hope this helps.
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Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
Answering to question 1:
I ran a google sync on the HTC Touch Pro WM phone, then when i logged in on my Desire everything just reappeared!
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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Indeed i'd like to know how the heck the iOS4 can handle multitasking better than Android..!!
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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I too am curious to your thinking. One thing I noticed from my friends iPhone is that when he brings up the multitasking thing at the bottom he can scroll through everything that's running as opposed to the 8 latest apps that the android shows. But I've never actually found it to be an issue personally.
Also in relation to the OT, I have never owned a iPhone (only my currently rooted Desire) but my friend who used to have a 3G and recently chose the iPhone4 over other choices says that while he is happy with how the iPhone runs, he does kind of wish he could customise it like I can with my Desire.
AndroHero said:
1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
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WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
I was using Touch Diamond with custom ROM for two years, Few weeks ago I switched to android (have choosen DESIRE).
I could not made a better choice. Not yet brave enough to ROOT it )))).
Really the phone is excelent, speed and UI is great, customization possibilities are as good as I was used with WM.
Flash is also working without any problems, so is multi-touch. Even iPhone 3GS users were impressed ))))).
T.
neo158 said:
WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
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It is a well known fact that the Desire, unfortunatelly, doesnt have proper multi-touch. It has a somewhat refined dual-touch ability, but in games, it has some issues here and there. You can see it downloading a simple app from the market for touch testing. Thats the only thing im somewhat jealous of the other multi-touch phones (galaxy s, iphail).
But the only thing im jealous the most about the iphone is its scratch resistant screen.. that makes me cry every time i realize that our screens are made from glass only.. :/
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Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
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Hi,
I disagree! I do absolutely nothing to "manage" multi-tasking on my phone and suffer no problems with battery.
In contrast, the vast majority of iPhone apps don't multi-task at all anyway, so I can't see how it can be better.
Regards,
Dave
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Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
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The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
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As of 2.2 we have a "sort-a" built in task killer so no need for 3rd party stuff... as for your other claim, indeed the apps dont drain battery at all (well..not as much..) so i really dont get it when people say that background apps drain battery and what else.. i dont have any battery drainage whatsoever, and if i dont use wifi at all, my battery can last 2 days easily...
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After 1 month with Desire HD, I think i like it but there are these 3 things that are really annoying:
1. Camera:
Very limited functionality/adjustment.
Small sensor (my guess) -> can't get a good picture of moving subject (I am not talking about lighting fast moving subject, just for example baby movement).
2. Video:
Very limited file formats can be played back.
Third party players (rockplayer, vplayer) can play some but still not all, especially mkv...very very very laggy.....
Lagging can also occasionally occur during playback of some avi/divx too?
3. Sound/speaker:
This is the worst.
I am comparing the above with the Samsung Galaxy S........quite disappointed.
so here is my 2 cents question:
Does anyone know whether a firmware upgrade can fix the above issues or it's more like a hardware things?
Is it possible that we can use/port the Samsung Galaxy S Camera/Video/Sound firmware/apk on the Desire HD to improve it??????
Many Thanks in advance
There are quite a few threads round here regarding the camera. Have you tried adjusting the ISO? Having it set on "Auto" is a recipe for disaster, the same goes for the white balance.
Check to see if there are any OTA updates available.
You are right. The Desire HD is the biggest piece of crap I've ever used. Unfortunately Telus gave it to me as a replacement while my Galaxy S is being repaired.
Sound is godawful. I hooked up my quality headphones to the Desire HD and can't get any real volume. The sound is completely garbled and half the lyrics are not understandable. I've tried stock settings, using the Dolby and using SRS as well as playing with the equalizer. The sound just plain sucks. It is totally unusable. I'm not an audiophile so I'm perplexed that nobody else has mentioned these issues. Or perhaps there is a solution I'm not aware of.
Second really annoying problem is that I can't delete hotmail emails... they just pop back on the next sync. What gives?
I seriously don't understand how HTC expects to thrive when they put out crap like this. Doesn't anybody believe in quality anymore? Maybe my expectations are just too high, the iphone JUST WORKS and Samsung's Galaxy was a beautiful implementation of Android. Guess I'll just have to wait for my Galaxy to get back or buy the new SGSII. Having an original HTC Diamond and now the problems with the Desire HD, I swear this company should be bankrupt. I'll never pay for one of their phones again.
I agree with seamus24. My friend has Samsung galaxy S II and checked the sound quality. It really better then Desire HD. Is HTC listening ????
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I agree with seamus24. My friend has Samsung galaxy S II and checked the sound quality. It really better then Desire HD. Is HTC listening ????
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Sorry to admit as an avid user of HTCs...the DHD camera is not as good as the Desire, just remember that megapixels is not everything...noise control on the Desire is excellent, overall producing better photo than DHD. I jumped the ship after playing with the SGS2...camera is very low noise, super sharp...also offered 1080 recording as well...
The video player is limited by copyrights and licenses for format playbacks etc and obviously hardware of the DHD. Not to blame, in most cases it can play converted 720 videos without too much issues with the exclusion of MPEG formats IIRC.
Speakers, well that was **** a bit ****, I still firmly believe that the Desure was a better phone, the audio quality on it I believe was better, in comparison again to the SGS2, well there is no competition...DHD<Desire<SGS2
@OP, even if porting was possible, I fear that the archilles heels is based on the actual hardware of the camera, processor (CPU and GPU) and speaker. All of which cannot be changed or upgraded. There is only so much firmware updates can enable slight improvements. Whilst CPU can be OCed, I believe I read from fellow DHD DEV LordClockan that the GPU on the DHD cannot be OCed. Speakers, even with the enhancement from BEATS, very little can be done through software equalisers...trust me, there are people *****ing and moaning about how bad the SGS2 sound quality in comparison to SGS at the SGS2 XDA Forum...they dont actually know how bad DHD is then...but still...borrowing a DHD at the moment...missed SenseUI hahaha...
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Third party players (rockplayer, vplayer) can play some but still not all, especially mkv...very very very laggy.....
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I'm assuming that's a blu-ray rip you're trying to play on your device? or just another .mkv file (for the quality of picture you get on it)
I tried playing 'Avatar' 2.26GB - blu-ray ripped to a mkv file. Had to take the battery out to restart the phone. I work for a telco, so I tried it on several other DHDs - same result.
Worked like a charm on the SGSII though. I'm assuming, the DHD can only do so much.
Hello Guys,
I know a lot of people asked this in past. But I couldn't find any solution for that. Someone that it's this and others said it's something else.
My question is: Why is the HD video recording quality so bad compared to the iPhone. I mean both have cameras which are of the same company (read that somewhere). And also the processors have the same power.
So why is the video recording on HTC Desire sometimes so laggy and has badder colors? Is it only something that has to do with the developing? Or what is it?
And the most important question is there anyone who solved the problems?
No one who has an idea?
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No one who has an idea?
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Quality of lens and sensor optics.
But to be honest the iPhone 4 camera is junk compared to the N8. I have both phones and the N8 is simply amazing.