Hey, this is my first post in this forum. I´m spanish and my english is very poor but i will try it xD
Well, my answer is how run the latest game like avatar HD, lets golf 2 HD, assassins creed, aphalt 5, nee for speed shift, nova... etc in motorola defy.
I´m thinking of get one in chrismast, but I dont know yet if it has GPU dedicated, because in some pages sais that the defy has omap 3630 (with gpu) and in others sais that has the 3630 (whitout...).
Thanks for the answers and forgive if i´ve said some mistake!
I believe the current consensus is that it's using an OMAP3610 with the OMAP3630's PowerVR GPU.
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Absolutely yes, GPU is present and those games run flawless.
I will not fall into the 3610 vs 3630 discussion again but what i can tell you is that all the games mentioned (except avatar <- i don't know) go smooth, there's no lag at all, and graphics are amazing.
Also note for each of this games there are several versions which are slighty different (actually optimizations for specific devices), be careful to take the proper version.
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Absolutely yes, GPU is present and those games run flawless.
I will not fall into the 3610 vs 3630 discussion again but what i can tell you is that all the games mentioned (except avatar <- i don't know) go smooth, there's no lag at all, and graphics are amazing.
Also note for each of this games there are several versions which are slighty different (actually optimizations for specific devices), be careful to take the proper version.
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Thank you, i dont know nothing about a 3610 vs 3630 discussion, sorry. So defy has GPU is true?
What good news for me hehehe and for example psx4droid run so good that nexus or desire?
Do you know that with froyo we will can take 720p videos?
Sorry for so many questions but in other foros, and pages i dont find much information about this phone.
Thanks
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Absolutely yes, GPU is present and those games run flawless.
I will not fall into the 3610 vs 3630 discussion again but what i can tell you is that all the games mentioned (except avatar <- i don't know) go smooth, there's no lag at all, and graphics are amazing.
Also note for each of this games there are several versions which are slighty different (actually optimizations for specific devices), be careful to take the proper version.
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Hello. Well two days ago, i sent a question to motorola asking if the defy has or not a GPU. And this was his answer in spanish:
"Gracias por ponerse en contacto con Motorola.
Le enviamos un link donde podrá encontrar más especificaciones técnica sobre le Motorola Defy y le confirmamos que el Defy tiene procesador TI OMAP 3610 y no tiene GPU.
gsmarena.com/motorola_defy-3514.php
In english, they say that defy has not GPU... So i dont understand how can run this latest games, the processor is better that the processor of nexus or desire although the defy´s run at 800 Mhz???
With froyo we will can record video at 720p or we would need a better proce?
Thank you and sorry for the double-post
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Hello. Well two days ago, i sent a question to motorola asking if the defy has or not a GPU. And this was his answer in spanish:
"Gracias por ponerse en contacto con Motorola.
Le enviamos un link donde podrá encontrar más especificaciones técnica sobre le Motorola Defy y le confirmamos que el Defy tiene procesador TI OMAP 3610 y no tiene GPU.
gsmarena.com/motorola_defy-3514.php
In english, they say that defy has not GPU... So i dont understand how can run this latest games, the processor is better that the processor of nexus or desire although the defy´s run at 800 Mhz???
With froyo we will can record video at 720p or we would need a better proce?
Thank you and sorry for the double-post
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It sounds like a joke... Motorola sent to you a link to gsmarena instead of a link to their own specs page? This is absolutely unreliable.
However, this is the link you're looking for:
http://community.developer.motorola...elopment-resources-available/td-p/7794/page/3
As you can see they confirmed defy has a PowerVR SGX 530 renderer (GPU).
About 720p video recording:
Eclair or Froyo does not matter, it depends by defy's hardware, omap3630 can do it while omap3610 can't.
So, Motorola say 3610 + GPU (check out the link above) but all the "system info" apps tell us there's a 3630 inside.
If you still have doubts take a look here:
http://developer.motorola.com/products/defy/
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It sounds like a joke... Motorola sent to you a link to gsmarena instead of a link to their own specs page? This is absolutely unreliable.
However, this is the link you're looking for:
community.developer.motorola.com/t5/Android-App-Development-for/ANN-DEFY-development-resources-available/td-p/7794/page/3
As you can see they confirmed defy has a PowerVR SGX 530 renderer (GPU).
About 720p video recording:
Eclair or Froyo does not matter, it depends by defy's hardware, omap3630 can do it while omap3610 can't.
So, Motorola say 3610 + GPU (check out the link above) but all the "system info" apps tell us there's a 3630 inside.
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Its not a joke, is true. This is what they answer me :S
I know like you, is very extrange that motorola sends me a link to gsmarena...
OK, in the last link you post it I believe that it has GPU, I hadn´t seen where sais OPEN GL Renderer.
Thanks for the info.
PD: The person motorola that answer my question is complete idiot so...
You're welcome.
In my opinion (just an opinion, nothing sure) should be omap3610 + GPU, not 3630, so you'll have no trouble with games but probably there's no 720p rec available.
You can try asking to Motorola again but be sure to get the answer from another person
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You're welcome.
In my opinion (just an opinion, nothing sure) should be omap3610 + GPU, not 3630, so you'll have no trouble with games but probably there's no 720p rec available.
You can try asking to Motorola again but be sure to get the answer from another person
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I think that with an update we will can record video at 720p, because, for example, with te moto xt08:
developer.motorola.com/products/xt806/
with ti omap3430, that run at 600 Mhz, record video in 720p :S
If you would like to see just how well the defy runs games, search youtube for a video demoing the captivate vs defy vs desire in terms of 3D performance.
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nidlaX said:
If you would like to see just how well the defy runs games, search youtube for a video demoing the captivate vs defy vs desire in terms of 3D performance.
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I have seen a video of neocore, with galaxy and desire, all with eclair, and galaxy gets 55 fps, defy 44 and desire 28 (or that is what i remember).
In the games, i know that defy will be able to run all of them
thanks.
PD: Have any of you proved de livewallpapers? They run all at full?
I´ve seen some of the galaxy S and are precious. And with my htc hero i can have them, they run very bad because is and old mobile now...
All livewallpapers run flawlessly
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All livewallpapers run flawlessly
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Only there are postive anwser to all my questions xD
What do you say that is the worst thing of this mobile?
For me is the support of motorola, because this phone should get froyo running in his circuits... But I dont see anymore disadvantage.
Honestly, it's Moto's software implementation and the lack of a super LCD screen that hurts this phone. At the price I paid, I couldn't complain much more.
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Honestly, it's Moto's software implementation and the lack of a super LCD screen that hurts this phone. At the price I paid, I couldn't complain much more.
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But put it out motoblur is very easy i think...
And of super lcd... is true, for the price of Defy we can´t require more... and the normal LCD is better for the use with sun light...
I play Dungeon Hunter on my Defy and it runs just as fast as my wife's Vibrant. It run's just fine. Good framerate.
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I play Dungeon Hunter on my Defy and it runs just as fast as my wife's Vibrant. It run's just fine. Good framerate.
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Thanks for the new...
According to benchmarks, the defy is very powerful... have you prove another game of gameloft HD?
hi,
do you know if the gpu has the hardware acceleration flash player ?
thanks
@aikidoka90
Do not worry about gameloft games, all of them run really smooth on defy.
@gaetanolip
If i'm not wrong there's no specific hardware acceleration for flash. Once motorola has delivered the update (froyo) we'll have full flash support (software) on our phone.
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Hello everybody!!!
I think many HD users looked for good games for their devices. There are some really nice applications like Resco Bubbles, Experiment 13 etc. Also We can run Nintendo, Sega and other old games on HTC HD(with sortware multitouch support).
However, for my device I want at least psx games...(I am final fantasy and takken fan) I found emulators such as PocketISO and FPSEce, which allowed you run games from PS1. BUT I cant install it properly(I read many articles about it before start a new thread, but still cant find solution). Furthermore, I read, that FPSEce is not support WVGA(((
On Youtube I found many videos about FPSEce 0.10 working on Samsung Omnia and running psx games with full speed. I don't think that HTC HD is less powefull in turms of CPU and RAM than Omnia(maybe I am wrong).
So, can anybody explain me how to install it and (if possible) how to make it multitouch (like Morphgear with some skins and fix)?
I am using WM 6.5.3 by T2M(28004)
Thx in advance.
I try to run fpsece many times, but always whit poor result. The site appear old and no update. However, This progr starting directly from the executable file and work in the hd wvga, but can't start games for me
the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.
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the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.
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Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.
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Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.
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Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!
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Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )
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I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )
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Well, I hope you are wrong about release date...
About FPS: I have tried Final Fantasy 8 and during first video it worked with 25-35 frames per second. However, I can't start the game - I can see FF boot screen, but I can't move to the main menu. I pressed all buttons("x", "start" etc.) with no result, only "select" buttons works fine. What I did wrong? I have tried other games with the same result.
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.
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+1
Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)
MAMeingast said:
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Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)
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I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....
aliff said:
I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....
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Don't know, if CPU is everything... I know the Axim has a very powerful 2700G graphic chip the HD doesn't! (I owned a Axim before my HD...
this will be fantastic. i can't wait to try crash band on my Topaz
Hi maxcy,
I just installed Max Manila Ultimate 2.6 Beta and can confirm that it works perfectly with latest NRG ROMs. Once again you did an awesome job. I finally have my 16 shortcuts and bg4all back + a working action softkey. Thank you so much.
ps1 for wvga
hi guys i think fpsece looks really good im tired of the low quality mobile games they keep bringing out and this looks like it will be decent. just need to find out how to get all my favourite ps1 games on my storage card. i read on the oficial forum that the developer is thinking about charging £5 for the emulator when its available on wvga devices. well im sure he/ shes done alot of work and i for one think thats fair. i think it will be free if you dont want to save your game or something like that. just cant wait.
Hey GUYS!
FPSEce is released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.fpsece.net/downloads.htm
the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?
W.C. said:
the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?
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This software support WM 6.5.3, at least some ROMs. For example, it works on Flashmore's and XennyTech's ROMs.
where can we find some games?
hello00 said:
where can we find some games?
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google is your friend! can't really say, where you can find it.
After installing RSD Lite. I could see S Flash OMAP3630 after I plugin the defy via usb while the phone is on bootloader (Power+VolUp)
Does it mean the the defy has a OMAP3630 and not a 3610?
Yes, a lot of people says "that is an error!! DONT CARE!"
A loot of people says, no, other says yes, and motorola don't care about it...
But in my opinion have a 3630 ( not sure ).
I think thats what the driver say it is...
The only way to find out will be to install a 3610 driver specifically and try if PC recognizes this. Doesnt it make sense?
why motorola make a 3630 driver for a 3610 CPu?
no logic...
tomeu0000 said:
why motorola make a 3630 driver for a 3610 CPu?
no logic...
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its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
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its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
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i know this thread (i contributed some posts myself) but when its a 3615 w 3d and w/o hd en/decoding, how come that it plays 720p content in mp4/h.264 like a charm?
source: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DEFY-Review_id2578/page/3
i think, we can't be shure until it the defy gets shred to pieces by ifixit or some other daredevil
PUSH!!!
derbestimmer said:
i know this thread (i contributed some posts myself) but when its a 3615 w 3d and w/o hd en/decoding, how come that it plays 720p content in mp4/h.264 like a charm?
source: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DEFY-Review_id2578/page/3
i think, we can't be shure until it the defy gets shred to pieces by ifixit or some other daredevil
PUSH!!!
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Yes it's possible, but if the bit rate goes up 4mb/s, you can't play it.. why?
easy, the band width isn't sufficient, and phone overloads.
I thing a bitrate of 30000kbps it's ok, nothing more....
PD: srry for my bad english
the processor of defy is a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 because it included a POWERVR SGX graphics 530. POWERVR is recognized by Quadrant.
focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
wwwimgtec.com/factsheets/powervr/POWERVR_SGX_Series5_IP_Core_Family.pdf
inteks said:
its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
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That's physically impossible!
Only 3630/3622 come with the package required for POP (stacked memory chip). If it is 361x, where is the memory chip? It's very hard to miss shuch a huge chip.
eykxas said:
the processor of defy is a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 because it included a POWERVR SGX graphics 530. POWERVR is recognized by Quadrant.
focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
wwwimgtec.com/factsheets/powervr/POWERVR_SGX_Series5_IP_Core_Family.pdf
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No, that's an outdated presentation. In the latest (Nov. 2010) Technical Reference Manual, ALL 36xx variants have identical full speed GPUs.
So where can we find the Windows 7 drivers for this so I can get RSDLite working?
At the moment getting a msg indicating drivers are not installed??
Edit: used winxp machine. S/W issue at my end.
hi, i want do something on AM3703, it's same with omap 3630? thanks in advance!
I hope so ,but ,I don't believe it has the opma3630.may be there is an error on the software.If defy's cpu is 3630,it can be more attracktive!so,why moto didn't tell us it's cpu is 3630?
Believe what u want...it works...and it works great
Thats all that matters
When the Defy+ comes out, just benchmark it...surely a 3610 + kyro will be slightly less powerful than a 3630
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I hope so ,but ,I don't believe it has the opma3630.may be there is an error on the software.If defy's cpu is 3630,it can be more attracktive!so,why moto didn't tell us it's cpu is 3630?
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Same reason they used when they said it didn't have ANY Graphic Chip and the same one when they said the phone only had a 2 point Multitouch Screen.
I believe they limited the device softwarewise in order to strategise the launch of its successor Defy+ .
Why just not compare performance with phones for which we know they have 3630 for sure and then we will know
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Same reason they used when they said it didn't have ANY Graphic Chip and the same one when they said the phone only had a 2 point Multitouch Screen.
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Sounds like either moto has a plan and lied, or their spokes person havent a clue.
I vote for the latter...
i think defy's cpu is 3630.so defy+ update cpu to 3630 is a joke.
Hi ,
Although many people believe that defy uses OMAP 3630 instead of 3610/3615 or something else, you can only get this conclusion from the 3D/video performance or features defy supported. But the problem is, can you be sure?
I wrote a small native C program and read out the value of CPU's register that controls the OMAP FEATURE. The value is 0xC00. You can check the 36xx TRM:
at focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/SWPU177B_FinalEPDF_12_04_2009.pdf
The values means that defy has a IVA 2.2 accellerator 2.2 and SGX .
So the CPU is neither 3610 nor 3615 . It is definitely 3630-800.
I think this is a convincing proof. If you still dont believe it, the only way is to open your defy and take a look at the ID on the chip...
BTW: I only tested on my phone, which is UK 2.21 version. Not sure for other version....
reasly said:
Hi ,
Although many people believe that defy uses OMAP 3630 instead of 3610/3615 or something else, you can only get this conclusion from the 3D/video performance or features defy supported. But the problem is, can you be sure?
I wrote a small native C program and read out the value of CPU's register that controls the OMAP FEATURE. The value is 0xC00. You can check the 36xx TRM:
at focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/SWPU177B_FinalEPDF_12_04_2009.pdf
The values means that defy has a IVA 2.2 accellerator 2.2 and SGX 535.
So the CPU is neither 3610 nor 3615 . It is definitely 3630-800.
I think this is a convincing proof. If you still dont believe it, the only way is to open your defy and take a look at the ID on the chip...
BTW: I only tested on my phone, which is UK 2.21 version. Not sure for other version....
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The kernel boot message also tells me that defy has a 3630 cpu .so i can confirmed it has the 3630 cpu.
in youtube i saw one video of a review of the Defy and he said that he plays smoothly 720p videos and has show one 720p video on the defy
Is it possible ?
I am not sure. Can someone post a video sample? By saying "720P" , what is the coding format? Maybe someone can post a 720P video sample recorded by MS2.
rocklee80 said:
in youtube i saw one video of a review of the Defy and he said that he plays smoothly 720p videos and has show one 720p video on the defy
Is it possible ?
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ME525 aka Chinese Version of MB525 which running froyo build can play 720p.
SGX 535 - rly?
btw. did you notice, the ti document has 3630 pages!!! this must be a sign that the defy has a 3630! just kiddin... this is good news!
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SGX 535 - rly?
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sorry my mistake, should be 530
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btw. did you notice, the ti document has 3630 pages!!! this must be a sign that the defy has a 3630! just kiddin... this is good news!
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haha I agree!!!
@reasly: could you please explain what your program exactly does? i understand it as a tool which reads out a special hardware register (the one which stands für the iva2.2 module according to the ti document) and returns a value. the value 0xC00 means module existent and something like 0x000 means module not existent. am i understanding it correctly?
TRM does not list such CPU as 3610, it mentions 3611 as most limited by features. As 36xx are produced for big corporations like Moto, we can't be sure what's really going on with CPU naming. It looks more like marketing stuff for me.
I also got [email protected] for Defy bough at T-Mobile USA. It does not directly confirm that the CPU is 3630. It just reports that such features as IVA or SGX are not disabled.
Motorola can say the CPU is 3610 (whatever) with those features enabled ;-)
my point exactly! its just names & marketing mumbo jumbo. the important thing is the enabled AND ACCESSABLE features. and with th iva2.2 module working there is a good possibility to enable 720p encoding/decoding on the device, which would be important for me.
tenfar said:
The kernel boot message also tells me that defy has a 3630 cpu .so i can confirmed it has the 3630 cpu.
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Can you make a video of 2.2 chinese Defy rom you are playing a 720p Video pls ?
rocklee80 said:
Can you make a video of 2.2 chinese Defy rom you are playing a 720p Video pls ?
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720p (1280x720) is too high a resolution for the Defy (854x480). You would be wasting space/resources to display a scaled-down video.
Consider converting a 720p video to a more useful format for your device
Unless ofcourse you just want to see it, 'because it can be done'.
I took a look at the technical reference (page 193 of 3630..lol!) in the CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS register description.
The value 0xC00 translates to 0000 1100 0000 0000, that is NO IVA hardware acceleration and 128K L2 cache, if I'm right.
Where did you get those info's about it being the 3630??
You should give that program to a droid X user to run on its phone...
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I took a look at the technical reference (page 193 of 3630..lol!) in the CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS register description.
The value 0xC00 translates to 0000 1100 0000 0000, that is NO IVA hardware acceleration and 128K L2 cache, if I'm right.
Where did you get those info's about it being the 3630??
You should give that program to a droid X user to run on its phone...
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please count more carefully BIT[11:10]=2'b11
sorry, i don't get the whole bit counting ting. could you please explain, how it works according to the reference manual? thank you.
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What's this?? LOL
tomeu0000 said:
What's this?? LOL
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Zorro was here, and he is using a DEFY.
still the same problem... we need to successfully confirm what processor have our phone...
I own a motorola defy and after watching this video i had a smile on my face and thought maybe if i share with some users here, it might make them happy too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IuX70jEP4A
a little quote: "lol, defy is still on 2.1. With 2.2 it will way outrun the galaxy s."
shad0wboss said:
I own a motorola defy and after watching this video i had a smile on my face and thought maybe if i share with some users here, it might make them happy too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IuX70jEP4A
a little quote: "lol, defy is still on 2.1. With 2.2 it will way outrun the galaxy s."
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Haha, outrun Galaxy S?
I think that isn't possible... in CPU maybe ( but i'm still in doubt ) in GPU, no color...
The Galaxy S have better GPU clocked to 200Mhz....
The defy GPU as underclocked to 110Mhz but at 200Mhz, Galaxy S stills better in GPU performance.
Maybe if any developer try to overclock the GPU, we can obtain some more extra graphics power.
PD: The video it's OK make me funy thanks for sharing
put them under water and let´s see the faster
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Very funny
with ultraoverclock and the water cooling system defy can beat the galaxy S which with water drown
tomeu0000 said:
Haha, outrun Galaxy S?
I think that isn't possible... in CPU maybe ( but i'm still in doubt ) in GPU, no color...
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I agree, but I think the desire is even better for CPU..
I have a galaxy s. My gf has a defy. No. It doesn't beat the galaxy. The io speed is slow because of the rfs file system that Samsung used. The defy is an awesome and very capable phone ( I envy her sometimes) but the galaxy has better hardware.
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the defy is a meaner beast then most think! especially overclocked with froyo!
gpu on galaxy is the 540 vs 530 on defy, so no defy wont win on 3d the galaxy...
well...i mean u never know because in that vid, defy hits 4x fps when galaxy hits 5x fps. I've read on forum that 2.2 froyo is twice faster then 2.1 but lets see when froyo hits defy.
I believe defy will get atleast same fps as galaxy in that game atleast with froyo
EDIT: i mean adreno 200 which is Desire's GPU, it's twice as fast as PowerVR 530 (Defy's GPU) and the CPU is scorpion 1ghz (desire) but desire has half the FPS compared to Defy...
Adreno 200 inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw.
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when i heard that Defy's GPU (PowerVR SGX 530) runs at 200 mhz clock speed which is quite slow compared to adreno 200 (HTC DESIRE's GPU) so i mean, i don't think it's all about GPU or CPU ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-GLKQ2W528
I heard at some places that 2.2 update will overclock Defy's cpu to 1ghz and in this video this guy has cpu at 1ghz and it basically scores 1414 in quadrant benchmark which is above Nexus one running at 2.2
The PowerVR SGX 530 of the Defy (also iPhone 3GS) runs circles around the Adreno 200 of the Desire, Nexus One etc when it comes to 3D performance. That's why you're seeing almost double the score in neocore compared to the Desire.
The Froyo update doesn't do much to the raw 3D performance of the Defy. I'm running 2.2.1 @ 1,2 GHz and I'm "still" at 40-something FPS in neocore (1500+ points in Quadrant). It's just too dependent on GPU performance.
That's the reason why even the Nokia N8 with it's crap CPU and less RAM shines at 3D games - it's got an awesome GPU.
So for reaching the 3D performance of the Galaxy S or Adreno 205 devices like the Desire HD? No dice! (unless someone figures out how to overclock the GPU safely)
But having said that, even the arguably most-demanding 3D game for Android available, Dungeon Defenders, runs just fine on the Defy. Maybe not totally buttery smooth like on the SGS, but still very fluently. Something the Desire isn't capable of and one of the reasons for me getting a Defy rather than a Desire.
I'm starting to like the Defy more and more...
I got a SGS and my GF will get a Defy today... We might swap because she likes the looks of a SGS more (women).
I been reading on the Devy and it's puting up quite a fight against SGS so I think I won't regret trading and losing some power.
Also wanting to get into Android and customising which somehow I think I better use the cheaper Defy for.
Love the defy, my boss has a Desire HD its just a bit too big really and does not perform as well, especially if you put it under the tap!
Whn you buy defy, mak sure that the ear speaker is working properly becaue it is very common for defy to have its ear speakers stop workng.
I bought mine a month ago and after two wees, it stopped working, now i'll be getting a new defy tomorow hopefully or arepaired one :/
but just to le you know that this is the only defect in this handset.
EDIT: Samsung galaxy is running on 2.2 froyo + it has a more latest GPU and higher CPU so make sure if these things don't matter to you then you can trade your SGS for defy
I need a new mobile.I have considered Desire and Defy.The only difference between this two is the processor.Defy has 800MHz Cortex-A8 processor and the desire has 1 GHz Scorpion processor.Which is the best between these two.I need it mainly for gaming.So i need all the latest games to work without any lag.Does heavy games run on Defy without any lag?
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Not an expert in games here... but i can tell you Cortex from TI is much better in terms of performances. I'd go for Defy even if the Qualcomm cpu inside Desire clocks 200mhz more...
EDIT: also consider the PowerVR 530 graphic chip inside the Defy, it's not bad for gaming. AFAIK you can run any game with no problems provided that you download the powerVR version of the game (i mean, forget those Tegra2 or Xperia Play dedicated games)
For processor of defy, tout can overclock it to 1.2 ghz. for tegra games, download chain fire 3d from market. You have to be rooted to do both.
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Not an expert in games here... but i can tell you Cortex from TI is much better in terms of performances. I'd go for Defy even if the Qualcomm cpu inside Desire clocks 200mhz more...
EDIT: also consider the PowerVR 530 graphic chip inside the Defy, it's not bad for gaming. AFAIK you can run any game with no problems provided that you download the powerVR version of the game (i mean, forget those Tegra2 or Xperia Play dedicated games)
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How does one distinguish between powerVR and Tegra2 versions of games in the Android Market?
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How does one distinguish between powerVR and Tegra2 versions of games in the Android Market?
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Oh don't worry for that, the Android Market (at least the "desktop version") will tell you whether a game is compatible with your device or not. In the mobile version should be even easier since the game won't appear at all.
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Oh don't worry for that, the Android Market (at least the "desktop version") will tell you whether a game is compatible with your device or not. In the mobile version should be even easier since the game won't appear at all.
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Ok, then i dont have to think about it, good. Thanks for the info. By the way, bought a wonderful little game today called "They need to be fed", what a fun and addiciting game it turned out to be.