Hi, I have tried both HD roms and normal roms of the sense kind and the no sense kind. I have noticed that SenseHD roms like supervillainHD or RCMixHD have better clarity.
I am usually pretty poor at noticing these things so its hard for me to explain, but its like watching 480p vs 720p on a 1280x720 screen. Everything is clearer. I am wondering why that is so?. The only thing I know is the lcd.density variable in the file in /system but its not that, both say 240.
The HD screen is larger though and as they're the same screen resolution things will look tighter on a smaller screen. I agree it does look better, though
i dont get it..so what exactly is being changed here? i mean what part of code/file etc?
Dunno, obviously assuming the pixels in the DHDs screen are larger than the Desire so when put onto a smaller screen it looks smalle and neater
TjPhysicist said:
i dont get it..so what exactly is being changed here? i mean what part of code/file etc?
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Desire HD sense uses smaller font (but not the Desire Z sense)
so more stuff fits on the screen and you think everything is higher res
also, some graphics and animations are new - i even think the new clock widget uses higher res pictures hence it looks much better than the old one
Desire HD has larger screen, but same resolution as the old Desire
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Browsing trough the WP7 ROM dump, I came across this folder:
Code:
Phone_DPI_262
This seems to be a new resolution, because Windows mobile always supported DPI 192, 120 and 96.
Maybe this means a higher resolution for the coming Windows Phones.
Just a thought. Let me know what you think about it.
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Browsing trough the WP7 ROM dump, I came across this folder:
Code:
Phone_DPI_262
This seems to be a new resolution, because Windows mobile always supported DPI 192, 120 and 96.
Maybe this means a higher resolution for the coming Windows Phones.
Just a thought. Let me know what you think about it.
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Maybe 800x800 or something. Sounds like an ugly squared tablet.
TheDeadCpu said:
Maybe 800x800 or something. Sounds like an ugly squared tablet.
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How do you know it's 800X800? I was more thinking about 1280X800.
Probably, but come to think of it.. Theres something called XGA and thats 1024×768.
To keep the widescreen ratio with 800x480 they would need something like 1200x720. Of course they are going to have other aspect ratios so I don't know.
This is a nice graphic that shows all resolutions...
I think WXGA would be the one that comes very close as it is 5:3 resolution just like WVGA.
262 DPI was actually mentioned by MS at MIX when they were talking about WVGA. I personally completely fail to understand what it means - it's supposed to be dots per inch, right? So without the size of the screen DPI is what exactly?
Well the screens won't get much bigger than the HD2 I think, expect if they're going to make tablets.
The problem is, the bigger the screen the lower DPI you should get at the same resolution. However, all VGA and WVGA devices previously had 192DPI in WM, regardless of screen size. So I guess it's a different thing here. What exactly it is I don't know.
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The problem is, the bigger the screen the lower DPI you should get at the same resolution. However, all VGA and WVGA devices previously had 192DPI in WM, regardless of screen size. So I guess it's a different thing here. What exactly it is I don't know.
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That's true. I guess it doesn't tell us much, but at least it's bigger so either the screen size, or the screen resolution will probably be bigger.
WinMo 6.x supported 4 Logical DPIs (note that logical DPI is different from physical DPI, which is the bit that varies with each LCD panel/resolution)
96, 128, 131, 192
Note that a 5 inch panel might be operating at the same logical DPI as a 4 inch panel (lets say 192), but the physical DPI would be less on the 5 inch panel (larger physical pixel size)
If you were to change the logical DPI on a 4 inch screen from 192 to 262, while leaving the physical DPI the same (screen size/resolution does not change) - all on-screen elements would appear larger - more pixels would be used to draw each icon, scrollbar, etc.
Windows Phone 7 is showing 4 logical DPI's right now too:
96, 131, 192, 262
Just that we've lost 128 and picked up 262
Okay. But does that mean higher resolutions? Do you know if there will be higher resolutions?
The design of WinPhone 7 pretty much allows an arbitrary resolution, it's designed to be fully scalable. 1920x1280 @ 262 DPI @ 4 inches would make one ridiculous high res screen
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
Da_G said:
The design of WinPhone 7 pretty much allows an arbitrary resolution, it's designed to be fully scalable. 1920x1280 @ 262 DPI @ 4 inches would make one ridiculous high res screen
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
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Okay, yeah that would be indeed an amazing screen resolution for such a small screen!
A tablet would be very cool, I wonder if that's what HTC is working on.
Da_G said:
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
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But you do have general knowledge of one
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But you do have general knowledge of one
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Hehe nice one there. I'd like to know that too.
Maybe they need it for fully working HDTV support, although we're yet to see WP7 device that supports HDMI interface...
Possibly.
Zune supports it, so it would be odd if they wouldn't add HDMI support for WP7.
dont forget guys...higher resolution doesnt necessarily mean a larger screen.
you can still have a 1280 X 1024 etc etc higher res screen while still making it into a 3.7-4.3 inch screen.
hell you could even have a higher res screen into a 2.8 inch slot.
the difference with display screen isnt always about the resolution however its about the Pixel Size, the larger each pixel is the large the screen is, the smaller the pixels the smaller the screen.
just to give you guys a head up, at work i was wokring with an OLED Microdisplay screen that had the resolution of 1280 X 1024, YES better resolution than most HD TVS, however the display screen was less than an inch small, the reason is was because of how small the pixels were. its pretty cool.
hasseye said:
dont forget guys...higher resolution doesnt necessarily mean a larger screen.
you can still have a 1280 X 1024 etc etc higher res screen while still making it into a 3.7-4.3 inch screen.
hell you could even have a higher res screen into a 2.8 inch slot.
the difference with display screen isnt always about the resolution however its about the Pixel Size, the larger each pixel is the large the screen is, the smaller the pixels the smaller the screen.
just to give you guys a head up, at work i was wokring with an OLED Microdisplay screen that had the resolution of 1280 X 1024, YES better resolution than most HD TVS, however the display screen was less than an inch small, the reason is was because of how small the pixels were. its pretty cool.
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Really, oh that's nice. Such screens would be really amazing on mobile devices.
I was just wondering if this was in anyway possible.
The HTC Evo and the Droid X have bigger screens, but the same amount of pixels [all droids have a bit more pixels I know].
They fit more on the screen though and make more use of the bigger screen.
I was wondering if this was in anyway possible on the HTC Desire.
For example making the entire system font smaller to fit more in.
I don't have bad eyesight at all so things being smaller on my phone doesn't bother me, I know others would like to have everything bigger but I guess it comes down to personal preference.
Anyone got any ideas or anything about this?
Just want to fit more on my HTC Desire!
I think the thunderbolt is pretty bad ass... but i came from a Droid X back to the Incredible just because the 3.7 screen size, thinness, and trackball just makes for a better device for me at least.
Anyone hoping HTC and Verizon release an Incredible2 with the same or slightly thinner size and upgraded specs (LTE, dual core, higher screen res.. etc) to go along side the bigger Thunderbolt?
I would love something like that. An even more refined version of this phone. It's sleek already, but as with all tech devices, will age rather quickly. Sometimes I think these 4+ inch screens are too big, the Inc is a great size. Inc2 should also have a front facing camera in addition to what you said (LTE, dual core, higher res screen). It would be my next phone without a doubt
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I would love something like that. An even more refined version of this phone. It's sleek already, but as with all tech devices, will age rather quickly. Sometimes I think these 4+ inch screens are too big, the Inc is a great size. Inc2 should also have a front facing camera in addition to what you said (LTE, dual core, higher res screen). It would be my next phone without a doubt
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Yeah I had an X for a while and finally went back to the incredible for just that reason. the added bulk outweighs the benefits of the bigger screen. The incredible is just such a sweet feeling phone in the hand it just feels like a super modern device.. not a mini tablet.
I have a fascinate i'm playing with now and it is definitely more sleek than the X but i havent activated it for a few reason. its still fatter and taller than the incredible, although thinner. and samsung hasnt released froyo for it.
the build quality on the incredible is also on par with the best smartphones. the buttons click firmly, soft touch back. nice red accents and the battery cover doesnt slide of so easily like moto devices.
I'll probably stick with the incredible line for a while if they keep it alive.
See, the beauty of the larger phones is that they have LCD screen types... which not only makes daytime sight easier, but you can use an app to change the LCD density, thus increasing your resolution. It's not a massive view change, but it certainly does make a difference when you think about how big that screen will be. Every little bit counts.
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See, the beauty of the larger phones is that they have LCD screen types... which not only makes daytime sight easier, but you can use an app to change the LCD density, thus increasing your resolution. It's not a massive view change, but it certainly does make a difference when you think about how big that screen will be. Every little bit counts.
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i'm pretty sure the Thunderbolt has the same SLCD technology that my Incredible has other than size obviously. and while you can change the LCD density with an app... it makes some apps not render correctly.
thunderbolt= undervolt
I say undervolt because i cant beleive we will not get our dinc 2 the way it should have been. hdmi out is fairly standard on top end devices.. not undervolt.. we all like our smaller dincs or we would get evo's or motorola devices... again not undervolt..big and ugly. Even when the dinc first came out with verizon it was the featured phone for only 30 - 60 days. then not even on display. and how much fun was getting the tv out cable( wich many verizon emplees told me does not exist) only to find out it does not work very well..Htc makes some of the best phones! Add verizon...Htc + big red= undervolt... too bad .
Ive got this beautiful wallpaper here that I want to use with MattedBlue setup I am working on but I cant get over the blurry the picture quality looks on my phone. Is it possible to improve the quality for picture? Any knowledge anybody can drop on me would be much appreciated!
use wallpaper set and save from the market to set wallpapers at full res instead of having to crop
Thanks Success. I actually do not have to crop this picture at all... the dimensions are perfect so WSS didnt make much difference. So I guess there is no way to improve image quality?
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Thanks Success. I actually do not have to crop this picture at all... the dimensions are perfect so WSS didnt make much difference. So I guess there is no way to improve image quality?
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It's because that wallpaper has a gradient which is made up of more colors than the 65k the EVO screen can handle..
Yes, WSS is better than the N1 3D Gallery app and better than the Sense Gallery app, but there's still a hardware limitation, unfortunately.
I've compared some of my wallpapers on my EVO to one of my friend's PalmPre and another friend's Epic 4G and I was blown away.
Some people say they can't see the difference.
I work with graphics all day so I notice all the banding and lack of colors and everything else.
Nonetheless, the EVO screen is still excellent, color capacity notwithstanding.
typeadam said:
It's because that wallpaper has a gradient which is made up of more colors than the 65k the EVO screen can handle..
Yes, WSS is better than the N1 3D Gallery app and better than the Sense Gallery app, but there's still a hardware limitation, unfortunately.
I've compared some of my wallpapers on my EVO to one of my friend's PalmPre and another friend's Epic 4G and I was blown away.
Some people say they can't see the difference.
I work with graphics all day so I notice all the banding and lack of colors and everything else.
Nonetheless, the EVO screen is still excellent, color capacity notwithstanding.
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Well that sucks But thanks sooo much for the response typeadam. I learned something today lol. Off I go to continue my quest of finding a perfect wallpaper to go with my MattedBlues theme!
NOTE: I was able to find a higher resolution picture of the image i posted above that looks much better on our Evos. Anyone who is interested, PM me and I'll get the wallpaper to ya
So I of course love the 720p HD resolution on my SGN, however it drives me NUTS how many things appear to be extremely small- text in many apps, certain buttons in certain apps (e.g. the top navigation button in official Twitter app), notifications in top of the tray, etc.
I know you can adjust the size of system font but it doesn't impact all apps and doesn't impact notification tray icons, app UI elements, etc.
Does this bother anyone else? Has anyone tinkered with adjusting density via an app or build.prop? Any feedback? My concern is that doing this often causes negative impacts in certain UI elements...
Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.
eallan said:
Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.
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Hmm interesting.... maybe it's because I'm coming from SGS2 in which everything was much larger due to the lower resolution being scaled/stretched up to fit the massive 4.52" screen. I know it leads to poorer rendering and pixelation, but was never really that noticeable (until placed side by side with my SGN).
Would still love any feedback if anyone has toyed with density...
You have to also take into account many apps aren't created for ICS. I feel some display elements may have changed from GB to ICS for phones
I think you're right in that you are just use to seeing a small resolution on a big screen and aren't use to the HD display.
Accessibility -> Large Text is always an option for those aging owners
lol...i wonder what the op would say to the fact that i use 240 dpi instead of the stock 320. my launcher is 6x6 w/search and my app drawer is 7x6. i find the stock 320 very big and a complete waste of the resolution.
ps-reduce google books font size to the minimum, you would be surprised at how tiny it gets, even more surprised at the fact that it is still crystal clear to your eye. the resolution is truly amazing!!
eallan said:
Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.
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I agree completely. There was actually a comparison on Android Police and the galaxy nexus showed less on screen than the atrix, despite it being higher resolution and a larger screen. Everything is way too big on the nexus and it's a huge waste of screen space.
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jamontoast1291 said:
I agree completely. There was actually a comparison on Android Police and the galaxy nexus showed less on screen than the atrix, despite it being higher resolution and a larger screen. Everything is way too big on the nexus and it's a huge waste of screen space.
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I agree. Not understandable how they could get to this...
Try using 240dpi like myself instead of 320dpi .