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Only problem with Tmo SGS2 for me is....

Lower resolution.
And it's the only problem for me.
Everything works perfectly fine.
GPS, bluetooth, amazing web browsing experience, sound quality, etc...
I mean, it's not a big deal, but it bothers me just a little whenever I see bad-quality picture and could notice pixels
Oh, one more thing...
This phoene is very hard to use with just one hand lol I keep pressing search haptic search key whenever I reach for menu button lol
Need practice
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ktaey0823 said:
Lower resolution.
And it's the only problem for me.
Everything works perfectly fine.
GPS, bluetooth, amazing web browsing experience, sound quality, etc...
I mean, it's not a big deal, but it bothers me just a little whenever I see bad-quality picture and could notice pixels
Oh, one more thing...
This phoene is very hard to use with one hand lol I keep pressing search haptic search key whenever I reach for menu button lol
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Ditto to the one-hand use. I'm pretty confident that the majority of the users cannot use this phone one-handed as it is almost impossible to reach the corner farthest away from the main thumb without the phone slipping. This will be even more so when you attach a case to it due to the increased width.

you can't really point resolution as being a problem
as the phone is designed like that
it was not advertised as HD
only the upcoming Prime and korea SGS2 version have HD display

PoisonWolf said:
Ditto to the one-hand use. I'm pretty confident that the majority of the users cannot use this phone one-handed as it is almost impossible to reach the corner farthest away from the main thumb without the phone slipping. This will be even more so when you attach a case to it due to the increased width.
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Hm... wouldn't it make it easier to hold it in hand more freely if u get like TPU covers? Cuz of the grip?
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AllGamer said:
you can't really point resolution as being a problem
as the phone is designed like that
it was not advertised as HD
only the upcoming Prime and korea SGS2 version have HD display
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True.. if I didn't immigrate to US, I would've got sgsII in korea though
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for the time i messed with it in the store one hand seemed ok. I really just wanted to put it in my pocket and run out the store with it though .2 weeks cant come soon enough stuck with my emergency 1972 nokia flip phone till i get home

AllGamer said:
you can't really point resolution as being a problem
as the phone is designed like that
it was not advertised as HD
only the upcoming Prime and korea SGS2 version have HD display
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You definately can tell the resolution difference. I have the unlocked version of the SGS2 and I'm looking at it side by side and YES there is a resolution difference, I was thinking that unlocked SGS2 look more crispier and sharp but on Tmobile SGS2's resolution being lower was due to the bigger screen or something....also the I notice there was a lag on Tmo SGS2 when playing 720P avi file when there was no lag at all on the unlocked SGS2

wootek76 said:
You definately can tell the resolution difference. I have the unlocked version of the SGS2 and I'm looking at it side by side and YES there is a resolution difference, I was thinking that unlocked SGS2 look more crispier and sharp but on Tmobile SGS2's resolution being lower was due to the bigger screen or something....also the I notice there was a lag on Tmo SGS2 when playing 720P avi file when there was no lag at all on the unlocked SGS2
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I think the lag is because the exynos is more focused on media consumption than snapdragon
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The resolution wasn't that bad to me, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough, I mean I really didn't see any pixels..

Speed and resolution seem fine to me.
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I actually like the resolution. I have 20/15 corrected vision, but it's still nice to have stuff just a tad bit bigger. I feel like I don't have to lean over my phone in order to use it. I can reach the whole screen one-handed, but I have pretty big hands... I admit 720p resolution would be hott still, but I would be concerned about the battery life of such a huge screen with that dense of a resolution.

I've been playing with mine for some time now and the resolution is not a problem for me, and neither is lag.
I have a feeling that people have crazy expectations over phones and in the end they end up being disappointed.
The only thing I don't like about mine is all the dumbass apps that came with it, but that's with most phones.
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I just expect not to lose functionality, so far I have. Lost tethering, wish is a deal breaker unless it gets fixed with root. Video in google chat, which is laughable to lose.
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Screen Size of Galaxy Nexus vs. Epic 4G Touch

So here is the thing, so the screen size of the Nexus will be 4.6", is the actual usable part of the screen larger then our device?
What I mean, doesn't the buttons on the screen have to remain there all the time so in reality that part of the screen is not really usable for anything else. So it looks like you are not really getting any extra screen real estate you can use by having the buttons incorporated into the screen instead of the device.
Anyone see this any other way or am I missing something? If this is the case, it will really suck for smaller screens......

You are correct. From what I'm seeing the actual viewing screen is 4.3 inches do we imwill have a bigger screen in the end.
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So here is the thing, so the screen size of the Nexus will be 4.6", is the actual usable part of the screen larger then our device?
What I mean, doesn't the buttons on the screen have to remain there all the time so in reality that part of the screen is not really usable for anything else. So it looks like you are not really getting any extra screen real estate you can use by having the buttons incorporated into the screen instead of the device.
Anyone see this any other way or am I missing something? If this is the case, it will really suck for smaller screens......
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Yea, you are missing the fact that the menu buttons can be programmed to auto hide for most applications as the developer sees fit. I doubt you will see the menu buttons while playing games and watching videos, movies, etc.
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Off topic, kinda, I am dubious about placing the buttons onscreen. I haven't played with honeycomb much but with every iteration of android I've owned the screen occasionally freezes leaving only the capacitive buttons operative. If and when the screen freezes in ics will the onscreen buttons remain inoperable? If so, I'm a little glad I got one of the last phones with separate buttons.
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Jesse Buck said:
Off topic, kinda, I am dubious about placing the buttons onscreen. I haven't played with honeycomb much but with every iteration of android I've owned the screen occasionally freezes leaving only the capacitive buttons operative. If and when the screen freezes in ics will the onscreen buttons remain inoperable? If so, I'm a little glad I got one of the last phones with separate buttons.
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I've got a Nook Color...no hardware buttons (aside from power and volume) except home. So we get on-screen ones.
In situations like you describe they still work just fine. Those capacitive buttons are just a piece of the screen with no, well, screen under it. Same digitizer. I wouldn't worry about it.

The most recent leaked specs are pretty underwhelming, pretty much only the HD screen is a real upgrade and even then it's going to be curved (wtf) and smaller, harder to read text. The Prime is more of a sidegrade than anything, and not a very appealing one at that. I'm sticking with my galaxy II
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Pheno.menon said:
The most recent leaked specs are pretty underwhelming, pretty much only the HD screen is a real upgrade and even then it's going to be curved (wtf) and smaller, harder to read text. The Prime is more of a sidegrade than anything, and not a very appealing one at that. I'm sticking with my galaxy II
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Exactly
Samsung is going to make the galaxy for google and its users will benefit from having updates asap and vanilla android; however the galaxy S series is samsung's flagship. The galaxy S3 will be the next real upgrade from our devices.

Pheno.menon said:
The most recent leaked specs are pretty underwhelming, pretty much only the HD screen is a real upgrade and even then it's going to be curved (wtf) and smaller, harder to read text. The Prime is more of a sidegrade than anything, and not a very appealing one at that. I'm sticking with my galaxy II
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What is the recently leaked specs. The last I saw it had a 4.6" screen.

HondaCop said:
Yea, you are missing the fact that the menu buttons can be programmed to auto hide for most applications as the developer sees fit. I doubt you will see the menu buttons while playing games and watching videos, movies, etc.
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On my galaxy tab 10.1 it was the same concept with using on screen keys only and they never once dissapeared. There are threads and people rooting just to try and get the buttons to move off screen during video playback and such. Idk. We will sure find out wont we? But ya I think for the most part the buttons will always be on the screen 90% of the time

I've been looking at galaxy nexus videos for the last couple of days and the software key area does not look capable of using that area for anything but those keys. The screen looks like it ends before the keys.

The most recent leaked specs are pretty underwhelming, pretty much only the HD screen is a real upgrade and even then it's going to be curved (wtf) and smaller, harder to read text. The Prime is more of a sidegrade than anything, and not a very appealing one at that. I'm sticking with my galaxy II
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I agree as well. This phone feels like a mini tablet. If the screen resolution is better, hopefully they put a bigger battery to balance it out. It would make a difference right? Higher Res equals more battery use? Anyhow I love this phone. It is not going anywhere. I can't find anything (other than LOS) which I never get on pulled stock kernel. Wifi range is better than OG Epic, battery great, Bluetooth connects properly, Everything works and works well for me
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daneurysm said:
I've got a Nook Color...no hardware buttons (aside from power and volume) except home. So we get on-screen ones.
In situations like you describe they still work just fine. Those capacitive buttons are just a piece of the screen with no, well, screen under it. Same digitizer. I wouldn't worry about it.
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There is actual screen underneath those buttons. Idk if you've seen any of the demos but when doing thing like playing games or watching media those buttons disappear completely leaving you with a 4.65 inch hd screen. Another plus point is that they'll be context sensitive. So the dev of a given app can change them to fit your needs at any given time. I may be striking out from the crowd here but I'm actually totally in favor of then on screen keys. One of the most attractive features of the gnex in my opinion is the bezel to bezel screen.

Bezel to Bezel screen would be t*ts

depends what u mean besides the capacitive buttons the nexus still has more room density wise
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Isn't this phone out?
It's a joke phone with the newest OS.

MaliceOmega said:
There is actual screen underneath those buttons. Idk if you've seen any of the demos but when doing thing like playing games or watching media those buttons disappear completely leaving you with a 4.65 inch hd screen. Another plus point is that they'll be context sensitive. So the dev of a given app can change them to fit your needs at any given time. I may be striking out from the crowd here but I'm actually totally in favor of then on screen keys. One of the most attractive features of the gnex in my opinion is the bezel to bezel screen.
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I don't mean to sound like a ****, but, I'm not sure what your point is. I agree with you 100%. My only point was that on-screen buttons were no different than our current setup, as they are digitizer driven just the same (meaning that our buttons are the same on on-screen buttons except there is no screen underneath them and that their reliability in 'locked up' circumstances is not to be a concern.)
Also, addressing OP's main question, if you do the math....given the resolution and subpixel division between both phones we have, roughly, the identical panel but with a slightly different sub-pixel division. We have an absolutely identical sub-pixel amount...sure, they have less sub-pixels and we have more, but, they have more resolution and we have less. It's the same panel configured with a slightly different sub-pixel arrangement...so...for all intents and purposes consider our screen size identical. 0.10" is nothing to worry about.

nabbed said:
Isn't this phone out?
It's a joke phone with the newest OS.
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I kinda agree, the phone itself isn't all that. I felt the same way with the nexus s also.

The other cool thing is that the buttons rotate to the bottom of the screen when you flip between portrait and landscape

phatmanxxl said:
I kinda agree, the phone itself isn't all that. I felt the same way with the nexus s also.
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I second that. I'm not too fond of the 16:9 aspect ratio on the GN compared to the screen ratio on our device. I think we have the superior hardware.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2568348/galaxy-nexus-review
Of course the new Galaxy Nexus has a better screen. It will look the same size as ours but will be a lot higher resolution. The screen is better on the Nexus and it is the one thing, other than ICS, I wish the SGS2 had. The Nexus and SGS2 have almost exactly the same physical footprint so it doesn't feel different than ours but you get more screen real estate when you need it (games, movies, internet, etc.). The people complaining about the 16x9 are off because the only time it seems like that is when you are in a movie or game and then 16x9 is great because it's like an HDTV. The area the SGS2 excels are the Camera and the processor. I don't know how anyone on here can argue that our older, lower res screen is in any way better than the new 720p Galaxy Nexus.

[Q] 800 pixels width vs 720 - discuss

The only thing putting me off the note 2 is the smaller screen resolution. I can imagine apps like the samsung calendar must be less usable. Also I find 800 pixels is a dream resolution for viewing internet pages.
For those that switched from the note 1 how are you finding it?

Is the less dpi really that noticeable? I'm actually very excited about the new aspect ratio as I watch a lot of movies on my phone
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Finally a thread like this
It's really annoying in some situations but then you launch a video and your stunned.
You browse, somehow less good, it's quite noticeable when you had Note 1 but then the screen is so much better in ALL other aspects.
Then you get no problems with app compatibility due to the more standard resolution. You see more webapps and games thought for 720p.
So wrapping up, I guess I'll get use to it and with all the other goodies on Note 2 it's worth the upgrade: amazing batterie life (doubled), screen colour and brightness, speed and great sound.
I'll keep the nostalgy of the original Note owner though :<
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Isn't the one lesser column of icons also the result of less horizontal pixel? Yes I agree the screen is much better, but I don't suppose it's just for web viewing. There are the utilitarian point of view to this. I would imagine people who used to have certain amount of icons on a single page and then suddenl reduce would feel negatively. It's like taking a feature out. I am coming from an Epic 4G so I got no bone to pick on this just voicing another valid PoV that some people didn't see.

Sometimes I'll do something and my brain will go, 'that looks a bit odd', because I remembered how it was before.
But you'll get over it. The Note 2 is THAT much better.
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[Q] would it be possible to change resolution? half on and half black for example.

always wondered this about amoled devices. my battery life doesnt suck but imagine being able to turn off half your pixels. and still do phone related stuff. or customize and black out the top quarter of your screen. im not a programmer. if I was I would try to figure this out myself. thanks. if this were never possible to change I wouldnt be interested. for the most part I like having all the screen.but would be handy to implement at 10% batt level for example

No. You can't change resolution.
You can have a minimal set up and use black or no wallpapers.
As far as resolution no you can't change it.
If you could I'd set my S3 to full 1080p
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jayRokk said:
No. You can't change resolution.
You can have a minimal set up and use black or no wallpapers.
As far as resolution no you can't change it.
If you could I'd set my S3 to full 1080p
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I think you didnt understsnd the question. of course you csnt change the physical hardware. but if you made half the screen black thus halving your resolution. sorry if using wrong terminology

s384 said:
I think you didnt understsnd the question. of course you csnt change the physical hardware. but if you made half the screen black thus halving your resolution. sorry if using wrong terminology
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It wouldn't half your resolution lol
And I don't think there is an app or anything at the moment (at least to my knowledge) that would make it seem like your device is a certain resolution and display only those pixels on the given resolution and have the rest of the screen off...
It would be pointless, as soon as you'd open up an app all the screen would be used again. Unless there is special settings in AOSP ROMs in the dev settings that allow that, you're out of luck.
And why waste a screen this size to have off??
If you're having battery problems
Flash different kernels
Modify settings
And use Greenify app, its very useful.
http://www.howtogeek.com/131823/htg...allpaper-save-battery-on-your-mobile-devices/
Read that....
Using a black wallpaper on any OLED, AMOLED, SAMOLED display is like turning off the screen
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ok so imagine screen is 1000 x 600 for simplicity. make top half black. now resolution is 500 x 600. thats what I mean. or if you had a black border arund edge of screen 10 pixel wide your screen would now display a 980 x 580 resolution
otherwise nevermind. like I said not a developer. not having battery issues.

Thread cleaned of the back and forth "one-up" stuff.
Seems to be a straightforward question, let's see if we can answer it --- and let's try to be considerate of one another, as it is a requirement of XDA posting rules.
If you cannot do that, then go somewhere else with the negative spirit, we are here to learn from each other and exchange ideas, not trash each other when we don't like or get the answer we need.

Note 2 owners... Convince me

I'm between the s3 and note 2. Help persuade me.
I like that the note 2 is bigger, I will be happy to read my books on it (instead of, or in conjunction with, my nexus 7)..
Battery life.
Ram.
But what else.
How's the camera compare.
Is it too big?
What don't people like.

it's a bit bigger which can be a downside for some people, but other than that everything is exactly the same or better.
the cpu is an overclocked version of the one in the international s3
the camera is the same.
the battery holds 50% more, plenty to compensate for the bigger screen and adding a bit more usage time.
RAM is the same as the US s3, and twice as much as the international model.
the screen is the same resolution, but because of the better subpixel layout the note 2 has a sharper looking screen.
the size is an issue for some, but if you often use your phone as a computer/tablet the convenience of a large screen outweighs the inconvenience of a large device.

Dual core (S3) vs Quad Core (N2)
S Pen functions
3100 milli amp battery
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jewnersey said:
I'm between the s3 and note 2. Help persuade me.
I like that the note 2 is bigger, I will be happy to read my books on it (instead of, or in conjunction with, my nexus 7)..
Battery life.
Ram.
But what else.
How's the camera compare.
Is it too big?
What don't people like.
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More screen, more battery, less plastic
The best HD Super AMOLED yet
Quad-core plus LTE
Perfect balance between a small tablet and large phone
Spen
Bigger ... and better?
The PDA strikes back
Performance
Camera
Software
Battery life
List goes on and on and on ................

Went to Verizon and played with both. Definitely leaning towards the N2.
What do you usually use the spen for? Feel like I would never pop it out?
I might be getting an n2 for 300-350 (used) ... But that's a steal right.

I use the stylus mostly for browsing and typing, and sometimes for notes(S note app) and drawing(colors!, and Photoshop touch)
browsing works better because small links are easier to click, scrolling works with smaller motions, and mouse-over events are handled correctly.
rather than typing, I use Swype which works very comfortably with the S-pen.
the included keyboard app also has swype-input(swiftkey flow actually) as well as a very accurate handwriting option, but I prefer swype.
several drawing apps have support for the S-pen, so they can respond to the button and can adjust the brush sizes or opacity based on pressure.
some puzzle/casual games can be very comfortable to play with a stylus, I play mahjong solitaire, Klondike solitaire, hextacy, sudoku, and collapse with the stylus.
some different game genres also work well with the stylus.
final fantasy III for example, or the music game osu!droid.
when I got the note 2 I already knew I was going to use the stylus for drawing, games, and browsing, but I never considered using any note-taking apps until I got a chance to use the S-pen with S note.

Why I think the Note 2 is worth getting instead of the S3:
1. Bigger Screen and despite the lower pixel density its not much noticeable.
2. Much Better battery performance (a very big factor)
3. Double the RAM meaning better suitable for future ROM upgrades.
4. Faster CPU although not by much.
5. Spen- very handy for some creativity work.
6. Better and louder sound on the external speaker
7. Housing and Display are easier to replace compared to S3.
8. More premium feel
9. @ Point 1- Larger screen+ lower DPI= easily replaces a tablet and suitable for ported Tablet ROMs.
10. Its the latest in phablet models compared to the S3 that has already been outdated by the S4.
Need I say more?
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bushako: I find the difference very noticeable.
from a distance of 30-50cm I can already see a pattern like a chain-link fence on the S3(or any pentile screen) but on a Note 2 I can't see it's grid pattern beyond 5-10cm.
so I'd say the note 2 has a better screen, even without counting the bigger size.

Simply the Note 2 has more performance because of his RAM and CPU. It also have more battery capacity and the S Pen is a great feature to use. Because of that I use it in school and I great because the big screen make it easier to write. Another thing is the screen, it has a great resolution so videos and images look great. Web navigation is also easier with the big screen and with some mods you can use the multiwindow feature with all apps.
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Well I'm sold. The size is my only concern, but everywhere I look, nobody complains, so it cannot be that bad.

jewnersey said:
Well I'm sold. The size is my only concern, but everywhere I look, nobody complains, so it cannot be that bad.
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You will get used to, when I carry my Note 2 around many people say how I can use such a big phone but surprisingly you'll like it after you use it, and I can say that now anything smaller than the note seems small to me
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thedicemaster said:
bushako: I find the difference very noticeable.
from a distance of 30-50cm I can already see a pattern like a chain-link fence on the S3(or any pentile screen) but on a Note 2 I can't see it's grid pattern beyond 5-10cm.
so I'd say the note 2 has a better screen, even without counting the bigger size.
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Yea but I find that noticeable only if I focus hard enough and up close on the pixels otherwise the S3 has a fairly descent display. That is not to say the Note 2 isnt, in fact i find it just as good. My main problem with the low pixel density of the Note 2 is when lowering the DPI anywhere lower than 240, its when the icons start showing rough edges. Other than that, I'm quite happy with the both I think that although you don't see the grid patterns on the Note 2, it does come at the expense of slightly reduced clarity.
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