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Hi, I have tried both HD roms and normal roms of the sense kind and the no sense kind. I have noticed that SenseHD roms like supervillainHD or RCMixHD have better clarity.
I am usually pretty poor at noticing these things so its hard for me to explain, but its like watching 480p vs 720p on a 1280x720 screen. Everything is clearer. I am wondering why that is so?. The only thing I know is the lcd.density variable in the file in /system but its not that, both say 240.
The HD screen is larger though and as they're the same screen resolution things will look tighter on a smaller screen. I agree it does look better, though
i dont get it..so what exactly is being changed here? i mean what part of code/file etc?
Dunno, obviously assuming the pixels in the DHDs screen are larger than the Desire so when put onto a smaller screen it looks smalle and neater
TjPhysicist said:
i dont get it..so what exactly is being changed here? i mean what part of code/file etc?
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Desire HD sense uses smaller font (but not the Desire Z sense)
so more stuff fits on the screen and you think everything is higher res
also, some graphics and animations are new - i even think the new clock widget uses higher res pictures hence it looks much better than the old one
Desire HD has larger screen, but same resolution as the old Desire
I was going to get the Nexus S, but I can't do without at least 32gb. The Evo was my second choice, but only because I "heard" the display was a bit washed out in compared to the amazing SAMOLED display with the Nexus S.
I really prefer the Evo when push comes to shove, though. I prefer HTC Sense, the bigger screen, Sprint, 4G, etc. but I have to have a nice screen.
What do you guys think?
Teddy Bruckshut said:
I was going to get the Nexus S, but I can't do without at least 32gb. The Evo was my second choice, but only because I "heard" the display was a bit washed out in compared to the amazing SAMOLED display with the Nexus S.
I really prefer the Evo when push comes to shove, though. I prefer HTC Sense, the bigger screen, Sprint, 4G, etc. but I have to have a nice screen.
What do you guys think?
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There's no question, the SAMOLED display looks way better. The way blacks blend in to the device makes it look great. Colors are more vibrant. The display isn't that much smaller and is actually a decent size. The only problem I have with the display is if you look at text really close you'll see some jaggedness because of the sub pixel pattern they used.
The galaxy s series definitely has some jaggedness to the screen because of the subpixel pattern, pentile matrix. But its readable for the most part. The colors on it are gorgeous for everything but white screens with text, which is a lot of the internet unfortunately. The blacks are the truest blacks ever. And the proccessor on the galaxy s is excellent.
Somehow the evo manages to feel a bit faster though in most day to day things and menus. Overall the evo is the better phone for internet use and reading of text, but the screen doesnt display blacks and colors well. Still I prefer the evo over the epic.
you can't go wrong with either phone, the evo at this very moment has a more mature after market community, something not to be take lightly. I have never looked at my evo screen and been left wanting, i am very pleased with the screen
navoid said:
The galaxy s series definitely has some jaggedness to the screen because of the subpixel pattern, pentile matrix. But its readable for the most part. The colors on it are gorgeous for everything but white screens with text, which is a lot of the internet unfortunately. The blacks are the truest blacks ever. And the proccessor on the galaxy s is excellent.
Somehow the evo manages to feel a bit faster though in most day to day things and menus. Overall the evo is the better phone for internet use and reading of text, but the screen doesnt display blacks and colors well. Still I prefer the evo over the epic.
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probably because the snapdragon cpu is slightly better but the hummingbird gpu is miles ahead
I came from tmobile and a vibrant to sprint and the evo. There are only 2 things that I miss from the vibrant...the 16 gb internal storage, and the samoled screen. The galaxy s phones have slot of problems because of their rfs file system, I.e. lots of lag. I'm not sure how the nexus s is but I would wait on some reviews first. I definitely happier with the evo
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I have an Evo and I've never thought the screen was lacking. I haven't seen the Nexus S screen.
But if the screen is the most important thing, enough to ignore all the other criteria you mentioned (bigger screen, 4G, Sprint, SenseUI), maybe just get an iPhone 4. It's definitely the best screen. The highest resolution, and I think the only IPS screen currently available. I hate Apple's control over their products and user experience, but if the screen is that important to you, maybe that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
However, if we're limited to Android devices, between the SAMOLED Nexus S screen and the LCD Evo screen, I can't imagine the difference is enough to get the Nexus S given all the Evo advantages you listed.
I just think you're putting too much value on having the "best possible" screen.
metalfan78 said:
I came from tmobile and a vibrant to sprint and the evo. There are only 2 things that I miss from the vibrant...the 16 gb internal storage, and the samoled screen. The galaxy s phones have slot of problems because of their rfs file system, I.e. lots of lag. I'm not sure how the nexus s is but I would wait on some reviews first. I definitely happier with the evo
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The Nexus S does not use the same file system and is lag free for the most part. From what I've seen/read, the Nexus S doesn't have HW flash acceleration enabled like the SGS does so viewing flash enabled websites can be a bit laggy. Seeing as how it uses the same CPU/GPU as the SGS, Google and custom ROMs should solve this problem pretty soon and once they do, it'll be pretty much 100% smooth. And I mean smooth -- there's no question that it looks and feels faster than the EVO.
A lot of people also say it looks ugly and cheap; it is glossy but combined with the blended into the case blacks of the SAMOLED, the curve, the thinness, and the buttery smoothness of Android, it IMO feels a lot better than the EVO.
Yea I was reading about all that, the big turn off for me is no micro sd slot, that just doesn't make sense why they left that out
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Yea I was reading about all that, the big turn off for me is no micro sd slot, that just doesn't make sense why they left that out
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I agree. I don't know how things work, maybe there's some kind of limitation to how the internal storage file system works? But I would have liked to see 16GB (hell, I would have been fine with 8GB) of _real_ internal storage (none of that quasi external storage crap) and a expandable micro SD card for multimedia and app/personal data storage. Personally I only keep about 3 gigs of backup music (when I can't stream) on my card so I don't need more than 16GB but I could see how people would need more.
The screen on the Evo is gorgeous. Sure, side by side the SAMOLED wins but it's not like you're going to be missing it if you have an Evo.
Evo screen is not as good but the size difference makes up for it.
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Teddy Bruckshut said:
I was going to get the Nexus S, but I can't do without at least 32gb. The Evo was my second choice, but only because I "heard" the display was a bit washed out in compared to the amazing SAMOLED display with the Nexus S.
I really prefer the Evo when push comes to shove, though. I prefer HTC Sense, the bigger screen, Sprint, 4G, etc. but I have to have a nice screen.
What do you guys think?
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I have had the Evo since launch...if i was looking for a new phone I would personally wait for the next crop of phones to come out.
The EVO screen is a bit disappointing compared to the Galaxy S phones, but I can definitely tell a difference with the extra 0.3.
Also, if you use Cyanogenmod, you can also add a built-in widget to calibrate the screen colors to appear less washed out and darker, which makes a significant difference imo.
I think the thunderbolt is pretty bad ass... but i came from a Droid X back to the Incredible just because the 3.7 screen size, thinness, and trackball just makes for a better device for me at least.
Anyone hoping HTC and Verizon release an Incredible2 with the same or slightly thinner size and upgraded specs (LTE, dual core, higher screen res.. etc) to go along side the bigger Thunderbolt?
I would love something like that. An even more refined version of this phone. It's sleek already, but as with all tech devices, will age rather quickly. Sometimes I think these 4+ inch screens are too big, the Inc is a great size. Inc2 should also have a front facing camera in addition to what you said (LTE, dual core, higher res screen). It would be my next phone without a doubt
TheWhiteBandito said:
I would love something like that. An even more refined version of this phone. It's sleek already, but as with all tech devices, will age rather quickly. Sometimes I think these 4+ inch screens are too big, the Inc is a great size. Inc2 should also have a front facing camera in addition to what you said (LTE, dual core, higher res screen). It would be my next phone without a doubt
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Yeah I had an X for a while and finally went back to the incredible for just that reason. the added bulk outweighs the benefits of the bigger screen. The incredible is just such a sweet feeling phone in the hand it just feels like a super modern device.. not a mini tablet.
I have a fascinate i'm playing with now and it is definitely more sleek than the X but i havent activated it for a few reason. its still fatter and taller than the incredible, although thinner. and samsung hasnt released froyo for it.
the build quality on the incredible is also on par with the best smartphones. the buttons click firmly, soft touch back. nice red accents and the battery cover doesnt slide of so easily like moto devices.
I'll probably stick with the incredible line for a while if they keep it alive.
See, the beauty of the larger phones is that they have LCD screen types... which not only makes daytime sight easier, but you can use an app to change the LCD density, thus increasing your resolution. It's not a massive view change, but it certainly does make a difference when you think about how big that screen will be. Every little bit counts.
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See, the beauty of the larger phones is that they have LCD screen types... which not only makes daytime sight easier, but you can use an app to change the LCD density, thus increasing your resolution. It's not a massive view change, but it certainly does make a difference when you think about how big that screen will be. Every little bit counts.
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i'm pretty sure the Thunderbolt has the same SLCD technology that my Incredible has other than size obviously. and while you can change the LCD density with an app... it makes some apps not render correctly.
thunderbolt= undervolt
I say undervolt because i cant beleive we will not get our dinc 2 the way it should have been. hdmi out is fairly standard on top end devices.. not undervolt.. we all like our smaller dincs or we would get evo's or motorola devices... again not undervolt..big and ugly. Even when the dinc first came out with verizon it was the featured phone for only 30 - 60 days. then not even on display. and how much fun was getting the tv out cable( wich many verizon emplees told me does not exist) only to find out it does not work very well..Htc makes some of the best phones! Add verizon...Htc + big red= undervolt... too bad .
So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.
Just buy SGS2 then it still is the best phone out there.
Remix2011 said:
Just buy SGS2 then it still is the best phone out there.
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The SGSII is just about the same size as the GN....maybe a TINY bit smaller...
You gotta remember that the Galaxy Nexus has no capacitive buttons, and a very small bezel along the screen. It's essentially the size of a standard 4 in phone. I wouldn't worry so much about the size.
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You gotta remember that the Galaxy Nexus has no capacitive buttons, and a very small bezel along the screen. It's essentially the size of a standard 4 in phone. I wouldn't worry so much about the size.
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Not a standard 4" phone. Maybe closer to a 4.3-4.4" phone.
SGSII:
125.3 mm (4.93 in) H
66.1 mm (2.60 in) W
8.49–9.91 mm (0.334–0.390 in) D
GN:
135.5 mm (5.33 in) H
67.94 mm (2.675 in) W
8.94 mm (0.352 in) D
It's bigger than the SGSII, and the SGSII is a big phone (but thin, which IMO is actually worse because it's HUGE and absurdly thin at the same time).
The typical 4" phone is quite a bit smaller, and for me, more comfortable. Although the Amaze does fit pretty nice in the hand it itself is fairly massive.
Basically, what they did was take the body of the SGSII, take out the buttons and throw a .35" larger screen in there, while making the phone itself about 10mm longer, 1mm wider and even slightly thinner than the thickest of SGSII's but towards the top end. Note that the depth measurements are at the thinnest point of each phone. The phone has the same size screen and resolution as the SGSII HD which was announced for Korea in late September.
But the GN tapers to 11mm which is thicker than the thickest point on the GSII
@MARK said:
So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.
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Lol I can't believe you're unsatisfied with your Desire... I'm still on a milestone but if you can I would say wait until the SSG3 or a newer phone with better specs if you are unsatisfied with the underwhelming specs (e.g. 4 yrs old gpu). Or if you just want a smaller phone look at the SSG2 but don't just neglect the Galaxy Nexus because of how it looks on video, when it goes on display in stores you should head to your local best buy (or whichever store will have it on display near you) and at least try it out and get a feel for the phone. Just my 2 cents
@MARK said:
So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.
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I'm with you, I think it will be too big. It might not be as big as it sounds, but it will be a large phone, and once you add a case....
If it was 1/2 an inch smaller in height I'd be robbing old people right now to get some cash together for it. But the 5+" height leaves me a little ambivalent, I really dig the form factor of my Nexus One.
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My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big.
Choices choices choices.
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- & Thats what she said
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- & Thats what she said
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Way to bump an almost yr old thread. Good job broseph:good:
Serious question.
Personally I'm becoming pretty OCD with my phone and its defects (or lack of). My girlfriend claims not to be able to see the flicker, or the gap near the screen.
I think my obsession with having a perfect device is stopping me enjoying the phone fully.
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You will see faults without having to look for them, they will be obvious, so relax and enjoy your phone
No. I'm just using my phone like the vast majority of people.
I know what you mean, and it kind of ruined the experience of the 'new phone' feeling for me.
Got my second HOX today. Found a very vaguely present yellow bar on the screen on the top. Still doesn't feel as good.
It just sucks to know your phone has flaws, or could potentially develop those over time.
Nope I'm not looking for defects at all, if something goes wrong and I notice it then I will look into it but I won't meticulously inspect the device that's for sure.
Only defect I have is the flickering on light grey colors and such.........really a pain in the ass now and makes me OCD about it.
Battery life has also been sub-par.....to say I'm satisfied and happy with the device. I'd say like a 50% because battery life is really annoying.....it's worse than my Galaxy Nexus by a good amount and the Galaxy Nexus wasn't even amazing with battery life (but it was pretty darn good).
JimmyEatFood said:
Serious question.
Personally I'm becoming pretty OCD with my phone and its defects (or lack of). My girlfriend claims not to be able to see the flicker, or the gap near the screen.
I think my obsession with having a perfect device is stopping me enjoying the phone fully.
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everyone SHOULD look for defects. I only would have accepted the issues the One X has on a low budget device. Some people simply can't see stuff like this. It's like when I try to show people the difference with video playback on a display/tv/projector in 24hz compared to 60hz to show the stutter/jitter few people can see it. I see it really clear.
I always look for defects, and i hate my self for it, because stupid things like maybe a tiny lager gab with probably doesn't mean a S....
I work for a Danish Operator and in the last 7 days i've sold MANY ONE X... the last 4 days i looked closer one every ONE X when preparing them for the customers...
And guess what over 50% of the ones i sold had a tiny tiny larger gab between the screen and polycarbonat cover, so tiny larger that i need to hold it directly to the sun or really bright light to see it...
when i look back almost every model i can think of by HTC had a small difference around the screen and cover. even my previous Galaxy Nexus actually all three of them..
so right now i have my ONE X with a tiny larger gab at top, display with NO flicker but a tiny bit warmer white colored screen...
would i exchange it NO not this time, the next may have flicker or something els that annoys me a bit...
I don't think i can recall that i EVER had a perfect product...
hmm when i think of it thats not true.. my ONE S is perfect so why do i prefer ONE X, I really don't know..
ONE S seems faster in every day use, the material is nicer... but hey it's because it SO perfect thats make me keep my ONE X... or probably the larger screen
Simple. Don't ever expect a perfect device and be happy for what it is.
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