Greets,
The randomness of the recoveries has been bugging me for a while, so I am finally biting the bullet to ask if anyone has any insight ... here we go:
1) The most recent versions of CWR which Koush shows are 2.5.0.5 (which I run) and 2.5.1.1.
http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/
2) unrEVOked's REFLASH pushes v2.5.0.7; a version of CWM which is not accessible from anywhere else or by any other means (not in RomManager and not on Koush's site)
3) RomManager shows, as the most recent 3, 2.5.0.1, 2.5.1.0, and 2.5.1.1. That means that RomManager does not show 2.5.0.5 or 2.5.0.7
4) People have been complaining left and right that 2.5.1.1. doesn't work (although I cannot tell if that is simply people with SLCD's complaining and if it works fine with AMOLED). People are also complaining that nandroid backups do not restore under 2.5.1.1 with a MD5 mismatch.
So my question is, what is the latest version of CWR which can be used on an AMOLED and which can actually be gotten. 2.5.1.1 seems the most likely candidate since it can be flashed directly from Koush's site or from Rom Manager, but I am not sure if 2.5.1.1 is safe due to people complaining about white bars on a black screen (did I repeat that right; it might be backwards) and MD5 mismatches.
Can anyone running 2.5.1.1 on an AMOLED please confirm that 2.5.1.1 actually works and can restore prior nandroid backups?
Thanks!
2.5.1.1 works for my AMOLED, and is available via ROM Manager, under older clockwork recoveries at the bottom and on koush's site (I think my Sig has a link). The black screen with white bars is the SLCD under 2.5.0.5.
As always, mileage may vary.
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and the other half???
... and can anyone running v2.5.1.1 on an AMOLED please confirm if they have ever been able to restore a nandroid backup made under a previous version (such as 2.5.0.5)?
jdmba said:
... and can anyone running v2.5.1.1 on an AMOLED please confirm if they have ever been able to restore a nandroid backup made under a previous version (such as 2.5.0.5)?
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I can confirm that nandroid backups made with 2.5.0.5 restore using 2.5.1.1.
However, as always, ymmv.
Good luck my friend
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2.5.1.1 lol...i tried it. it did 1 backup for me 1st time I used it. after that it went haywire, would only start a restore and then freeze and immediately restart my phone. so its a hit or miss for.some reason. that was while ago now, just had to reinstall 2.505...backup I made with .1.1 worked on .05 though
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PonsAsinorem said:
2.5.1.1 works for my AMOLED, and is available via ROM Manager, under older clockwork recoveries at the bottom and on koush's site (I think my Sig has a link). The black screen with white bars is the SLCD under 2.5.0.5.
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Are you saying that anything over 2.5.0.5 will work with the SLCD screens? I'm not sure what you mean here.
pete_kowalski83 said:
2.5.1.1 lol...i tried it. it did 1 backup for me 1st time I used it. after that it went haywire, would only start a restore and then freeze and immediately restart my phone. so its a hit or miss for.some reason. that was while ago now, just had to reinstall 2.505...backup I made with .1.1 worked on .05 though
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This is basically my experience. I have an AMOLED inc from early July. I cannot complete a full backup with 2.5.1.1 - it appears to work, but will not restore and the file size is too small to be complete.
I'm back on 2.5.0.5 and happy. I'll be interested to see if the new one works out
Rom manager says that I'm using clockword mod 2.5.0.5, however, when I boot into recovery it shows that I am using 2.5.1.1. Any idea why Rom manager and my actual recovery are different versions? And I can confirm that 2.5.1.1 still works for me, but Rom manager will not boot into recovery on its own, and I'm thinking that is due to the fact that it shows two different versions
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I have been reading people saying that clockwork recovery doesn't wipe cache right and some other stuff. I am also starting to see ROM developers even mention this in their posted ROM's.
I have always used clockwork recovery with no problems. Has anyone even bothered to talk to koush about this problem the recovery has or just dissin his mod?
He seems to update it often and I find it hard to believe he hasn't or wouldn't address this.
Anyone?
I am right there with ya? I have used it and not had issues... Maybe its because I don't get crazy on flipping roms that often?
Version 2.5 fixed all past issues with clockwork mod.
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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Help....my clockwork will not let me install the latest recovery ??? What can I do
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What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I switched to RA after Clockwork recovery tried to strangle me in my sleep. I reported the bug so hopefully it will be fixed in the next version.
I've hopped between Amon and Clockwork, and I like them both. Amon is a cleaner interface (in my opinion) but Clockwork allows you to flash unsigned .zip's, and makes sure that you want to do an action before you do it (i.e. no, no, no, yes, no interface, lololol).
Both are amazing pieces of software.
~Jasecloud4
stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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This.
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stangdriverdoug said:
What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I have been using amon this whole time....I need to flash the netarchy c kernel...when I go to flash latest recovery in clockwork it gives me a error...so I uses the alternative recovery at the bottom of the menus. I still can't flash the kernel
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Oh that sucks.....i did the same thing as you and it went through just fine
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I use Clockwork because that's what Rom Manager uses. Haven't had a single problem with it as of yet. Very nice to be able to update CM6 nightlies without touching a computer.
Seems like Amon has more features / cleaner interface though.
stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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ROM Manager also allows easy switching as AmonRA's recovery is there as the "Alternate Recovery" on the bottom of the app. It will gladly flash back and forth (I use RA when I am going to update something through any of the CMUpdater-based update apps (DC and Fresh both use these)).
It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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not really. if you copy the nandroid file from one folder to the other folder, either one will load it.
From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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I never had a failure of flashing a rom, on any recovery, period. That is strange, sounds more like a problem with the rom.
CWM definitely has wipe dalvik option, it's under advanced. I just used it
Again clockwork has never failed me ever! It seems to clear cache fine to me as I have never had a boot loop I couldn't get out of.
So far there apears to be ZERO evidence of an issue with clockwork recovery so I guess I need to start asking developers why they are dissing clockwork recovery or just PM Koush directly.
If there is an issue I just want it to be addressed because I love the recovery and ROM Manager.
I'm curious, who uses which and why?
*Amon. Oops
I personally use cw...but many people on this forum swear by amon bc they say it is more reliable... some roms require you to use amon to flash. ...I personally have never had issues flashing with cw...
Bottom line is that we have two good choices if you are a flashaholic
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Amon-ra is my preference 0 errors. Clockwork is nice also, has its own app but people have reported a couple of flashing errors. Both are awesome all I can say is try out both see which one you like better.
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I was kind of tempted with the features and GUI of Clockwork, but after reading a bit on here, it seems like Amon Ra is the reliable way to go. I'm new to Evo rooting and roms, but when I had my Nexus One, AR was absolutely the way to go. Rock freakin' solid.
Currently if you have a evo with hboot 2.02 or 2.10 the only recovery u can use after rooting is amon ra...just a fyi
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Amon by far.
Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
I use Amon_ra because it backs up the wimax rsa keys. That's the only advantage I saw
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nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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The solution is to place your flashable .zip files to the base sdcard directory and not within a subfolder.
nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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Like the person above said, Amon_RA 1.8.0 can only use ZIP files which are on the root of your SD card, not in a sub-folder. Version 2.0 (which Amon_RA has suggested will be coming soon-ish) will have folder navigation.
Amon Ra currently but I have used both. The reasons are clear it backs the RSA keys, and does clear when wiping.
Btw try #grep RSA /sdcard/nandroid/HT065HL*/(name of nandroid file)/wimax.img
You'll see where your RSA keys are stored in your nandroid.
I go back and forth.... I use amon ra for nandroid backups and serious flashes like radio pri nv all that jazz. I like clockwork for ease sometimes. I don't use app2sd. I use titanium to wipe davlik and repeat in either cw or amon ra just to be sure... They both have their good points. and bad
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I've been playing with CM7, and of course did a nandroid incase I didn't like it. My backup of my apps got screwed and went to nandroid back, and it's hanging on md5 check. Not sure why, but when I reflashed CWM 2.5.0.5 it works fine as intended. Just want to warn people if they are having problems restoring in 2.5.1.2, use unrevoked and go back to 2.5.0.5 and restore that way.
-Todd
Out of curiosity did you use ROM Manager to do the initial nandroid? I've seen similar behavior on mine and have given up using RM, instead rebooting to recovery and doing the nandroid from there, and then using recovery to install the new ROM's from SD (and also for subsequent nandroid back) No issues with 2.5.1.2 using it in that fashion. I have the paid version of RM too.
curiouser and curiouser...what model screen do you guys have...slcd or amoled?
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Pete..I'm SLCD. thanks
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I did use rom manager. But the thing is, the nandroid was made with 2.5.1.2, which is what is odd......
And I have a AMOLED.
I had the same experience earlier...scared the sh*t out of me. If you are just patient it should eventually make it past the md5 and keep going.
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blake.cheek said:
I had the same experience earlier...scared the sh*t out of me. If you are just patient it should eventually make it past the md5 and keep going.
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Naa. mine makes it past the MD5 and restores just fine, just boot loops once it does. I just accept the fact that I can't do a backup from RM when downloading and installing a ROM , whereby doing it all within recovery works fine. Just another step - no big deal.
It just doesn't make sense to me. Why should backing up through Rom Manager make a difference? I could see if I was trying to restore from RM (which did work just fine on 2.5.0.5 btw). Since going back to 2.5.0.5 I've done two restores and now it's working just fine. CM7 was actually more stable and snappy than my sense rom, but there's a few apps that just aren't supported yet in GB. Finding alternatives is a easy fix usually, but haven't found anything yet for one of them. All in All, I was quite happy with CM7, just the lack of a widget for my Widget Locker (small calendar widget) and then m:IQ isn't working on GB apparently (if I got something to manually backup call log / sms I'd be fine. I'm sure there's something out there that will do it). 2.5.1.2 just doesn't do what I need it to do, luckily we have choices! I'll just stick to 2.5.0.5 for my rom flashing pleasures =]
Bonsai 4.1.0 now flashes CWM 3.0.2.4 onto the Epic and deletes the 3.0.0.6 version as well. Rom Manager Pro downloads the files 3.0.2.4 as well. It also will boot directly to 3.0.2.4 from within Rom Manager. So how come we haven't seen any 1 click 3.0.2.4 root tools as yet?
Or does the working Rom Manager Pro obliviate the need for 1 clicks now?
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Bonsai 4.1.0 now flashes CWM 3.0.2.4 onto the Epic and deletes the 3.0.0.6 version as well. Rom Manager Pro downloads the files 3.0.2.4 as well. It also will boot directly to 3.0.2.4 from within Rom Manager. So how come we haven't seen any 1 click 3.0.2.4 root tools as yet?
Or does the working Rom Manager Pro obliviate the need for 1 clicks now?
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I did a google search for 3.0.2.4 and I could only find it in use on HTC Desire and Legend phones. I am not a fan of ROM Manager, guess I'm a control freak ... hehehe
OK, glad to see i'm not the only one who's looking for a one-click for 3.0.2.4.
i hate booting into recovery and never knowing if i'm gonna get 3.0.0.6 or 3.0.2.4. I like rom manager, but ever since 3.0.0.5/6, it's been useless. i would like it to be useful again. also, 5/6 always gives me a "can't find sd-ext" error. i don't think this causes any problems, but it BUGS me. i am easily annoyed these days.
so... to piggyback on the op: is there a way to delete vestiges of recoveries past?
readermo said:
OK, glad to see i'm not the only one who's looking for a one-click for 3.0.2.4.
i hate booting into recovery and never knowing if i'm gonna get 3.0.0.6 or 3.0.2.4. I like rom manager, but ever since 3.0.0.5/6, it's been useless. i would like it to be useful again. also, 5/6 always gives me a "can't find sd-ext" error. i don't think this causes any problems, but it BUGS me. i am easily annoyed these days.
so... to piggyback on the op: is there a way to delete vestiges of recoveries past?
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The "can't find sd-ext" error is normal if you don't have a swap partition set up on your sd(most people don't). ROM manager will be useful again when an official version of CWM 3 is released. I hear it's something in the works, but I have no idea how much progress has been made.
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The "can't find sd-ext" error is normal if you don't have a swap partition set up on your sd(most people don't). ROM manager will be useful again when an official version of CWM 3 is released. I hear it's something in the works, but I have no idea how much progress has been made.
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I have a working swap partition and I see that as well. I think the [SD-EXT] error is from no ap2sd partition.
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i've got an a2sd partition & a swap partition and get the error
Edit: never mind
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I have a working swap partition and I see that as well. I think the [SD-EXT] error is from no ap2sd partition.
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Right , but I think you have the option to format that when you set up the swap partition. I guess some folks only format the swap and don't do the ap2sd.
Don't touch ROM Manager or any version of CWM it offers. Simple as that.
KOnane.... your advise is always welcome but can you elaberate smone please. Been running it for a couple of days and have had no prob YET!
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k0nane said:
Don't touch ROM Manager or any version of CWM it offers. Simple as that.
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Heh! Words to the wise.
ROM Manager worked perfectly on my EVO, though I used it to install RA Recovery not CWM.
I won't touch it on my Epic, at least at this time.
I didn't get 3.0.2.4 from Rom Manager. It was installed as part of Bonsai along with the EC05 modem.
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Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)
aca85 said:
Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)
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They have pros and cons. Atm i'm using cwm because it was recommended to flash some rom i wanted to try out, and i was to lazy to reflash AR back. Basically AR hasn't been updated for a while lately (which is not exactly a good thing), but still has (imho) a better menu system (you have to scroll less for performing operations, cause you just have to hit the trackball to confirm) and it's more effective for partitioning your sd (it also allows you to remove your ext or even to upgrade it to ext3 or ext4); it also features more accurate backup options (you are able to backup only your nand if you want). Cwm is still a little bit poor compared to it imho; the only feature it has which is probably better is the scrolling available also via volume rocker and sig verify disable by default when you're s-off, plus i like the orange color it has and the fact that it's made and actively kept up to date by koush, who is a really nice guy
Unless cwm is specifically required, i'd still recommend AR anyway...
2.5.0.7
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They are both very good, I prefer Clockworkmod because their is much more updated.
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CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.
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CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.
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You should try the last CWM recovery 3.0.2.8
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AR defo
hi using AR since a while.
i tested cmw 2513 et 2518 but led to issues so a switched to AR 201 which raised the issues, no matter there isn't update at the moment (and for a while i m afraid) it s still fully functionnal (so why update if so)
CWM 3.0.0.5
updated to 3.0.2.8 recently, not try ra recovery yet
My choice is CWM 2.5.1.8.
I don't like 3.0.0.5 since it doesn't work with amend scripts.
Cwm 2.5.0.7
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cwm sucks because you cant formatsd card to ext4
AR 2.0.1 very easy to use and i like using the trackpad/ball for navigation