Recovery : AmonRa vs CWM - Desire General

Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)

aca85 said:
Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)
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They have pros and cons. Atm i'm using cwm because it was recommended to flash some rom i wanted to try out, and i was to lazy to reflash AR back. Basically AR hasn't been updated for a while lately (which is not exactly a good thing), but still has (imho) a better menu system (you have to scroll less for performing operations, cause you just have to hit the trackball to confirm) and it's more effective for partitioning your sd (it also allows you to remove your ext or even to upgrade it to ext3 or ext4); it also features more accurate backup options (you are able to backup only your nand if you want). Cwm is still a little bit poor compared to it imho; the only feature it has which is probably better is the scrolling available also via volume rocker and sig verify disable by default when you're s-off, plus i like the orange color it has and the fact that it's made and actively kept up to date by koush, who is a really nice guy
Unless cwm is specifically required, i'd still recommend AR anyway...

2.5.0.7
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They are both very good, I prefer Clockworkmod because their is much more updated.
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CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.

Tarothsword said:
CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.
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You should try the last CWM recovery 3.0.2.8
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AR defo

hi using AR since a while.
i tested cmw 2513 et 2518 but led to issues so a switched to AR 201 which raised the issues, no matter there isn't update at the moment (and for a while i m afraid) it s still fully functionnal (so why update if so)

CWM 3.0.0.5

updated to 3.0.2.8 recently, not try ra recovery yet

My choice is CWM 2.5.1.8.
I don't like 3.0.0.5 since it doesn't work with amend scripts.

Cwm 2.5.0.7
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cwm sucks because you cant formatsd card to ext4

AR 2.0.1 very easy to use and i like using the trackpad/ball for navigation

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What is with ppl saying clockwork recovery doesn't work right?

I have been reading people saying that clockwork recovery doesn't wipe cache right and some other stuff. I am also starting to see ROM developers even mention this in their posted ROM's.
I have always used clockwork recovery with no problems. Has anyone even bothered to talk to koush about this problem the recovery has or just dissin his mod?
He seems to update it often and I find it hard to believe he hasn't or wouldn't address this.
Anyone?
I am right there with ya? I have used it and not had issues... Maybe its because I don't get crazy on flipping roms that often?
Version 2.5 fixed all past issues with clockwork mod.
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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Help....my clockwork will not let me install the latest recovery ??? What can I do
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What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I switched to RA after Clockwork recovery tried to strangle me in my sleep. I reported the bug so hopefully it will be fixed in the next version.
I've hopped between Amon and Clockwork, and I like them both. Amon is a cleaner interface (in my opinion) but Clockwork allows you to flash unsigned .zip's, and makes sure that you want to do an action before you do it (i.e. no, no, no, yes, no interface, lololol).
Both are amazing pieces of software.
~Jasecloud4
stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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This.
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stangdriverdoug said:
What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I have been using amon this whole time....I need to flash the netarchy c kernel...when I go to flash latest recovery in clockwork it gives me a error...so I uses the alternative recovery at the bottom of the menus. I still can't flash the kernel
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Oh that sucks.....i did the same thing as you and it went through just fine
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I use Clockwork because that's what Rom Manager uses. Haven't had a single problem with it as of yet. Very nice to be able to update CM6 nightlies without touching a computer.
Seems like Amon has more features / cleaner interface though.
stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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ROM Manager also allows easy switching as AmonRA's recovery is there as the "Alternate Recovery" on the bottom of the app. It will gladly flash back and forth (I use RA when I am going to update something through any of the CMUpdater-based update apps (DC and Fresh both use these)).
It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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not really. if you copy the nandroid file from one folder to the other folder, either one will load it.
From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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I never had a failure of flashing a rom, on any recovery, period. That is strange, sounds more like a problem with the rom.
CWM definitely has wipe dalvik option, it's under advanced. I just used it
Again clockwork has never failed me ever! It seems to clear cache fine to me as I have never had a boot loop I couldn't get out of.
So far there apears to be ZERO evidence of an issue with clockwork recovery so I guess I need to start asking developers why they are dissing clockwork recovery or just PM Koush directly.
If there is an issue I just want it to be addressed because I love the recovery and ROM Manager.

[POLL] Which recovery do you use? ClockWorkMod or AmonRA?

As title say: Which recovery do you use? ClockWorkMod or AmonRA?
Is just a poll to satisfy my curiosity
Don't blame the recovery that you don't like
Optionally post why you prefer that recovery instead of the other one.
Let's see which recovery is the most used!
I have no choice but AmonRa
I have desire with pvt4 erase size 40000 but it does everything I need
Clockworkmod.
I flit bewtween v2.5.0.7 and v3.0, depending what I am installing.
Never used amon ra, cwm has always worked well for me.
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AmonRa 2.0 because the custom rom only worked with this...
(Desire PVT-4)
I have used both amon ra 2.0 and presently using clockwork v 3.0
Still ra 2.0 is better
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CWM 2.5.0.7., but imho RA is better. Only reason I use CWM is that it was part of the guide I used when rooting, and now I can't be inclined to change it since recovery is one of the things you don't go repairing if they aren't broken.
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ClockworkMod, never used anything else as it's always worked.
Come on..I expect much more votes here
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As above CWM 2.0.5.7 never done me any harm
Why don't you try them and decide for yourself?
Seems like a pointless thread really
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I use AmonRA, used to be ClockworkMod but I switched at some point a few months ago to try and as it's something I only see for a few minutes a fortnight at most, I haven't bothered changing back even though having to use the OJ to navigate in AmonRA is irritating...
CWM 2.5.0.7
As long as it works I keep it thus I'm not really confident changing the recovery
mikep99 said:
As above CWM 2.0.5.7 never done me any harm
Why don't you try them and decide for yourself?
Seems like a pointless thread really
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Hey, I tried all of them and already decided for 2.5.0.7..Read the topic, Im NOT asking which recovery is better..Im asking what recovery the people use..Just to know some statistic about which is the most used recovery.
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CWM should be more popular because it comes with the ROM once the phone is rooted, but amon ra is better, partitioning on CWM sucks.
But like someone said, why fix if it isn't broken? clockwork works just as fine.
I use Clockworkmod recovery, it came standard with rooting and never bothered to change it.
Using amonRa-2.0.1 before that used cwm and had some issue.
And found this info on forum pvt-4,erase size-40000 user should use ra recovery.
Always used CWM, i had no issues so far.
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As title say: Which recovery do you use? ClockWorkMod or AmonRA?
Is just a poll to satisfy my curiosity
Don't blame the recovery that you don't like
Optionally post why you prefer that recovery instead of the other one.
Let's see which recovery is the most used!
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ClockWorkMod recovery does the job very good, and if you are using ROM manager then I think CWM is the one.
Used only CWM and worked in every situation.. nevere tried Amon-Ra .. would like to someday.
CWM
I also use it for my ZTE Blade.
So, why should I choose for amon ra?
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CWM 2.5.0.7...No issues till date..
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What's your favourite custom recovery for now guys? ext4 recovery touch or cwm

sorry before, may be this is a stupid thread for asking common stuffs about recovery
but i just wanna know for this time what's your favourite custom recovery between cwm and ext4 recovery touch (include the version) or may be the others that u think the best. thank you guys
Probably ext 4
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Both are awesome, but I like CWM more
I've used both and both are great.
I personally find that CWM (ClockworkMod) is a little more straightforward and has a cleaner look to it. CWM now has touch, albeit it's not as feature or interface rich as 4ext's touch interface.
I should point out, however, that using CWM with some ROM's, I was unable to make selections when the ROM gives you options during flashing. For example, when I was flashing a rom that gave the option of installing the OC daemon, CWM didn't give me the option, it just said installation (of the OC daemon) cancelled, whereas 4ext said yes or no, and I was able to choose.
I use ROM Manager (+ premium) from the market to flash back to clockwork mod when I've had 4ext installed, and use 4ext Recovery Control to flash 4ext back.
I would post the links but xda says I can't yet Not new to android or xda by any means, but new to posting
Hope this helps
The recovery is called 4EXT, and that's what you should refer to it, as to avoid any sort of misunderstanding with the "ext4" filesystem.
With that said, 4EXT Touch is the best you can get. It has a lot of bugs fixed over from CWM. It is also fully compatible with ROM Manager.
Link to the 4EXT site: http://4ext.net/
4ext touch is what I prefer. I started with cwm and have mad love for it, but after one of the updates is was working awkward for me and I tried 4ext and never looked back.
I might add cwm is fixed now, and works flawlessly.
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They both flash roms fine. So to me, eh who cares? I mean no offense to the respective devs, but I compare it to who makes a better key to my car? Who cares as long as it works. Imho.
P.s. I know some people like fancy keyless entry and keyless start and panic mode.... so for them it makes a difference.
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backup rom

Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers
Use 4ext recovery. It's much better than CWM. It doesn't support as many phones as CWM, but the DHD is one of the few it does. Also any backups you've made with CWM are fully compatible with 4ext. You can get the donation 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store which has a ton of other features apart from backing up and restoring. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for the app, you can do everything directly in recovery too. The app is just a frontend to make it easier. Hardly anyone uses CWM + ROM Manager for the DHD anymore because this is better.
Instructions -
1) Go to www.4ext.net
2) Download 4ext Recovery Updater from there (free).
3) Run app and flash 4ext Touch Recovery from it. That's all. You can also just get the paid 4ext Recovery Control app from Play Store (worth it bigtime) and flash recovery from there instead of going to the website and doing all that I said above.
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petrose said:
Hi people.
I was using rom manager for a long time now to backup restore my roms on DHD.
A few days before i try to backup my new rom Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 and my phone freeze.
I went to recovery mode and fix it.
Is there any other app to backup my phone?
Also i notice rom manager update in store.Did they fix this issue ?
Cheers
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I Use 4EXT Recovery Updater And 4EXT Recovery Control. Its Really Good And User-friendly.
+1 for 4ext.
I never use rom manager - I've heard of too many problems
I use 4ext and I really like it. You may also try TWRP, which is also a touch recovery. However, it's a flashable zip so it may be easier for you to install compared the 4ext recovery updater package (probably not much, I'm just used to flashing a lot of ROMs).
I don't think TWRP is available for DHD, is it?
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TWRP is available for DHD. I used it for awhile on my Inspire 4G, and it also works for DHD. However, I have had problems installing inspiremod for my Inspire 4G with it. It has Goomanager, which is nice. I use 4ext now though.
Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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Oh cool. I wasn't aware of that. I never saw a thread for it in the development forum. How do you install it? Through GooManager?
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Yes, through Goomanager.
dude, 4ext is the best and there is alot of support around recent roms and earlier also. go for it

[Q] ClockworkMod Recovery: Which to get?

Hey
I have to flash a recovery but which ClockworkMod Recovery should I get? The latest released for my device? The latest build made for my device? Touch or nontouch?
Niether, try out 4ext recovery... And you have touch screen why not also have a touch recovery
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Niether, try out 4ext recovery... And you have touch screen why not also have a touch recovery
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Why should I use 4ext Recovery over ClockWork Recovery? I don't mind but I would like to know the advantages (from your point of view)
Both have touch but 4ext is more intuatuive, all wipes are together and the lay out make more sense. You can customize it by adding many different skins. You can easily change partitions to be formatted to 4ext and go into info to check easily. Backups seem faster and get named not just dated. If you decided to use the app it is also nicer than clockworks app. There are many other perks but if you dont like it, well it takes seconds to change recoveries via fastboot, so why not flash one, see what you think, then flash the other and see what you like better
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Once again I've gotta agree with demkantor. I always used CWM Recovery since the G1 and then a few weeks back decided to give 4ext a go... The app was a bit daunting at first, I thought hell why are they so many options just for the recovery, but you don't have to configure everything to a tee. I flashed and rebooted, and never looked back. The big buttons, interface, logical menus, it's just fantastic. Has some really useful options like excluding cache + dalvik from nandroids, and also I love the option to wipe everything bar the fat32 petition, it's so much easier if I'm doing a fresh install.
Also the Vision is officially still supported, I don't think you can even get CWM 6. I tried CWM touch 5.8 (or something like that) and it was horrible.
Just try 4EXT, you won't regret it. Just go to the website, download apk, install apk, choose release candidate, flashes for you, reboot to recovery and smile. Easy as that.

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