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What is with ppl saying clockwork recovery doesn't work right?

I have been reading people saying that clockwork recovery doesn't wipe cache right and some other stuff. I am also starting to see ROM developers even mention this in their posted ROM's.
I have always used clockwork recovery with no problems. Has anyone even bothered to talk to koush about this problem the recovery has or just dissin his mod?
He seems to update it often and I find it hard to believe he hasn't or wouldn't address this.
Anyone?

I am right there with ya? I have used it and not had issues... Maybe its because I don't get crazy on flipping roms that often?

Version 2.5 fixed all past issues with clockwork mod.

Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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Help....my clockwork will not let me install the latest recovery ??? What can I do
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What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I switched to RA after Clockwork recovery tried to strangle me in my sleep. I reported the bug so hopefully it will be fixed in the next version.

I've hopped between Amon and Clockwork, and I like them both. Amon is a cleaner interface (in my opinion) but Clockwork allows you to flash unsigned .zip's, and makes sure that you want to do an action before you do it (i.e. no, no, no, yes, no interface, lololol).
Both are amazing pieces of software.
~Jasecloud4

stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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This.
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stangdriverdoug said:
What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I have been using amon this whole time....I need to flash the netarchy c kernel...when I go to flash latest recovery in clockwork it gives me a error...so I uses the alternative recovery at the bottom of the menus. I still can't flash the kernel
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Oh that sucks.....i did the same thing as you and it went through just fine
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I use Clockwork because that's what Rom Manager uses. Haven't had a single problem with it as of yet. Very nice to be able to update CM6 nightlies without touching a computer.
Seems like Amon has more features / cleaner interface though.

stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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ROM Manager also allows easy switching as AmonRA's recovery is there as the "Alternate Recovery" on the bottom of the app. It will gladly flash back and forth (I use RA when I am going to update something through any of the CMUpdater-based update apps (DC and Fresh both use these)).
It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.

thecodemonk said:
It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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not really. if you copy the nandroid file from one folder to the other folder, either one will load it.

From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.

drmacinyasha said:
From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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I never had a failure of flashing a rom, on any recovery, period. That is strange, sounds more like a problem with the rom.
CWM definitely has wipe dalvik option, it's under advanced. I just used it

Again clockwork has never failed me ever! It seems to clear cache fine to me as I have never had a boot loop I couldn't get out of.
So far there apears to be ZERO evidence of an issue with clockwork recovery so I guess I need to start asking developers why they are dissing clockwork recovery or just PM Koush directly.
If there is an issue I just want it to be addressed because I love the recovery and ROM Manager.

Recovery : AmonRa vs CWM

Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)

aca85 said:
Hey chaps,
Well i just want to know which is your prefered recovery?
p.s. the CWM x.x.x.x is 3.0.2.8 (long story)
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They have pros and cons. Atm i'm using cwm because it was recommended to flash some rom i wanted to try out, and i was to lazy to reflash AR back. Basically AR hasn't been updated for a while lately (which is not exactly a good thing), but still has (imho) a better menu system (you have to scroll less for performing operations, cause you just have to hit the trackball to confirm) and it's more effective for partitioning your sd (it also allows you to remove your ext or even to upgrade it to ext3 or ext4); it also features more accurate backup options (you are able to backup only your nand if you want). Cwm is still a little bit poor compared to it imho; the only feature it has which is probably better is the scrolling available also via volume rocker and sig verify disable by default when you're s-off, plus i like the orange color it has and the fact that it's made and actively kept up to date by koush, who is a really nice guy
Unless cwm is specifically required, i'd still recommend AR anyway...

2.5.0.7
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They are both very good, I prefer Clockworkmod because their is much more updated.
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CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.

Tarothsword said:
CWM 3.0.0.5
Haven't actually tried AR, maybe I'll give it a go sometime but CWM has always done what I've needed.
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You should try the last CWM recovery 3.0.2.8
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AR defo

hi using AR since a while.
i tested cmw 2513 et 2518 but led to issues so a switched to AR 201 which raised the issues, no matter there isn't update at the moment (and for a while i m afraid) it s still fully functionnal (so why update if so)

CWM 3.0.0.5

updated to 3.0.2.8 recently, not try ra recovery yet

My choice is CWM 2.5.1.8.
I don't like 3.0.0.5 since it doesn't work with amend scripts.

Cwm 2.5.0.7
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cwm sucks because you cant formatsd card to ext4

AR 2.0.1 very easy to use and i like using the trackpad/ball for navigation

New ClockworkMod Touch Recovery

New ClockworkMod Touch Recovery available for HTC Desire.
You can get info from here:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/N9FpGn2Rq7a
You also get it from here in img format:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

I've been using 4EXT Touch Recovery for a while now and I don't see myself moving to CWM Recovery any time soon. It's nice to finally see CMW go into the touch interface as 4EXT was based on CWM anyway.
More options for us. Fun!

Downloaded and works flawlessly so far, will be great for people who's buttons are faulty , making flashing new roms so much easier and possible.

Paid for premium to support cw team, and now he want money for touch recovery install? No thx...
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andee84 said:
Paid for premium to support cw team, and now he want money for touch recovery install? No thx...
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You can download the thing for free on his site and install it manually yourself.

The interface is more andoirdy then 4next, but yeah, so much used to 4next by now, thinking only serious curiousity might get me to switch and try it out
But way to go!

stankyou said:
You can download the thing for free on his site and install it manually yourself.
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absolutely - its free - no need to complain really.
Theres many people that donate to devs, many people that don't - its the same thing
you pay to get it one way (like a donation) or get it free the other way...

Does anyone have trouble installing this via rom manager? I get this when I try to flash it;
dl.dropbox.com/u/6210453/screenshot-1328112461314 .png
(I'm not allowed to post outgoing links yet so remove the space and copy past it)

Couldn't find any images of the UI on those links. What does it look like, similar to the 4EXT UI?

Is it any better than 4ext? Don't see much point changing if its not
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Donate is good way to support the work of the people that let us play with our devices... so why not donate? Is more or less the price of a coffee...

sintaku said:
Couldn't find any images of the UI on those links. What does it look like, similar to the 4EXT UI?
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No it doesn't. It doesn't look very different from old cwm, text is much bigger, supports touch, that's it. 4ext ui is much, much better.

Rotten Ross said:
Is it any better than 4ext? Don't see much point changing if its not
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4ext has better features such as format boot, format all partions except sd card, etc... No point changing to CWM touch.
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I have a little problem with the 5.8.0.2 version of CWM Touch recovery.
I use an HTC Desire (bravo) and during the nandroid backup the recovery software says that it can't mount the sd-ext and for this reason it can't backup that data.

Worth giving a try?

i dont like it... i preffer 4ext... its my opinion

I agree I tried CWM touch only to move back to 4eXT a few days later
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Looks the same to me... I was on like 2.0.5.7. or something and the new one has blue text instead of purple.
I tried touching the screen and it didn't work.

RealyPssd said:
Looks the same to me... I was on like 2.0.5.7. or something and the new one has blue text instead of purple.
I tried touching the screen and it didn't work.
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of course you tried the latest stable recovery NOT touch...there is an other recovery (beta) with touch support

I noticed that, yeah.
How do I flash the *.img file I've downloaded for the Touch version?
FastBoot?

What's your favourite custom recovery for now guys? ext4 recovery touch or cwm

sorry before, may be this is a stupid thread for asking common stuffs about recovery
but i just wanna know for this time what's your favourite custom recovery between cwm and ext4 recovery touch (include the version) or may be the others that u think the best. thank you guys

Probably ext 4
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Both are awesome, but I like CWM more
I've used both and both are great.
I personally find that CWM (ClockworkMod) is a little more straightforward and has a cleaner look to it. CWM now has touch, albeit it's not as feature or interface rich as 4ext's touch interface.
I should point out, however, that using CWM with some ROM's, I was unable to make selections when the ROM gives you options during flashing. For example, when I was flashing a rom that gave the option of installing the OC daemon, CWM didn't give me the option, it just said installation (of the OC daemon) cancelled, whereas 4ext said yes or no, and I was able to choose.
I use ROM Manager (+ premium) from the market to flash back to clockwork mod when I've had 4ext installed, and use 4ext Recovery Control to flash 4ext back.
I would post the links but xda says I can't yet Not new to android or xda by any means, but new to posting
Hope this helps

The recovery is called 4EXT, and that's what you should refer to it, as to avoid any sort of misunderstanding with the "ext4" filesystem.
With that said, 4EXT Touch is the best you can get. It has a lot of bugs fixed over from CWM. It is also fully compatible with ROM Manager.
Link to the 4EXT site: http://4ext.net/

4ext touch is what I prefer. I started with cwm and have mad love for it, but after one of the updates is was working awkward for me and I tried 4ext and never looked back.
I might add cwm is fixed now, and works flawlessly.
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They both flash roms fine. So to me, eh who cares? I mean no offense to the respective devs, but I compare it to who makes a better key to my car? Who cares as long as it works. Imho.
P.s. I know some people like fancy keyless entry and keyless start and panic mode.... so for them it makes a difference.
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[Q] Touch or non-touch recovery?

I'm really trying to understand the difference. Is it more a personal preference in using a touch interface & options, or are there some core differences as to why you should use one over the other, especially in flashing the ICS ports we're using on our T989's.
In one post I've been reading, they're instructing you to use 'touch recovery' to flash the ROM. And in other post I've been reading, a highly trusted member said he won't use touch anymore because of issues he's had with it. I've seen it go both ways many times.
I read in another post, that one member thought the 2 versions handled the cache partition differently. If that's the case, doesn't using thederekjay's Darkside SuperWipe make that null & void anyway, because it formats, erases and aligns all the disks partitions properly anyway before you flash?
I've never used touch to flash an ICS ROM, or any ROM yet, and I'm certainly not against it. But I haven't had a lot of the issues that some are having either to make me go that way. So I'm trying to determine, or see if you guys really think that using one version over the other can really make a difference in the stability of the ROM; and if so...then why? Thanks!
And of course; if the OP tells me to use touch recovery to flash their ROM, I will certainly do so if I flash the ROM. Just trying to get a better understanding.

I use touch. Its just a personal preference. Then again the errors are a hit or miss thing.
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recovery version doesn't matter. it would be quite cumbersome to flash a different recovery every time i wanted a different rom. Touch vs no touch just affects GUI and user interacting, nothing more.

When in RECOVERY I want stability ....no touch gimmicks necessary if there's even the slightest chance of an error.
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bzlik88 said:
When in RECOVERY I want stability ....no touch gimmicks necessary if there's even the slightest chance of an error.
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word. having to button press your way thru the menues is a security feature.
SGS2 (T989) on CM7_373R5

Touch is the best way!!
I used for much time the Classic CWM, until I want flash the new ICS Rom; I have a lot problems, boot loop, kernel loop, reboots, FCS…. My solution was the new CWM Touch Version.
After I make all wipes with this CWM Touch version all things on ICS for T-Mobile t989 works very very well.

In my opinion non-touch recovery works best because its stable and touch recovery is still experimental and can still have some bugs.
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osangoqui said:
I used for much time the Classic CWM, until I want flash the new ICS Rom; I have a lot problems, boot loop, kernel loop, reboots, FCS…. My solution was the new CWM Touch Version.
After I make all wipes with this CWM Touch version all things on ICS for T-Mobile t989 works very very well.
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I had the same experience. Which was confusing.
I figured it was just people not flashing properly which was causing the issues.
So I used non-touch CWM. Tried 4 times with various combinations of wiping to try and get it to boot. To no avail.
Flash touch CWM, flash once, works perfectly. So confused as to why that is.

So this is what confuses me. I was just reading through some posts at the 'NexusMod' thread. A member posted that some of the issues another member was having with the ROM was due to the user using standard recovery. He said standard recovery makes the cache partition as r/o instead of r/w and this is causing some of the issues when people flash the ICS ROMS.
Really? So in GB ROMS it doesn't matter if it's r/o because I've always used standard recovery and never had, or heard of these issues before related to the recovery?
So there's that big of a difference between the 2 versions of recovery that one leaves the cache partition as r/o and the other r/w. That seems pretty major to me if true. I'm not doubting anybody here, just trying to get a better understanding so I know which recovery to use.
I like and just feel safer using the non-touch version. But if need be, I could go touch... If I need too.
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