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What is with ppl saying clockwork recovery doesn't work right?

I have been reading people saying that clockwork recovery doesn't wipe cache right and some other stuff. I am also starting to see ROM developers even mention this in their posted ROM's.
I have always used clockwork recovery with no problems. Has anyone even bothered to talk to koush about this problem the recovery has or just dissin his mod?
He seems to update it often and I find it hard to believe he hasn't or wouldn't address this.
Anyone?

I am right there with ya? I have used it and not had issues... Maybe its because I don't get crazy on flipping roms that often?

Version 2.5 fixed all past issues with clockwork mod.

Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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Help....my clockwork will not let me install the latest recovery ??? What can I do
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What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I switched to RA after Clockwork recovery tried to strangle me in my sleep. I reported the bug so hopefully it will be fixed in the next version.

I've hopped between Amon and Clockwork, and I like them both. Amon is a cleaner interface (in my opinion) but Clockwork allows you to flash unsigned .zip's, and makes sure that you want to do an action before you do it (i.e. no, no, no, yes, no interface, lololol).
Both are amazing pieces of software.
~Jasecloud4

stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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This.
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stangdriverdoug said:
What do you mean latest recovery? Clockwork is a recovery.
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I have been using amon this whole time....I need to flash the netarchy c kernel...when I go to flash latest recovery in clockwork it gives me a error...so I uses the alternative recovery at the bottom of the menus. I still can't flash the kernel
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Oh that sucks.....i did the same thing as you and it went through just fine
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I use Clockwork because that's what Rom Manager uses. Haven't had a single problem with it as of yet. Very nice to be able to update CM6 nightlies without touching a computer.
Seems like Amon has more features / cleaner interface though.

stangdriverdoug said:
Well I was using clockwork mod....latest version of course....and it didn't seem to wipe davlink cache...so last night I did the research and figured out a quick way to flash between RA and clockworkmod recoveries. It's actually really easy to flip between the two through adb. I do flip between roms from time to time and its nice to use the recovery the developer reccomends.
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ROM Manager also allows easy switching as AmonRA's recovery is there as the "Alternate Recovery" on the bottom of the app. It will gladly flash back and forth (I use RA when I am going to update something through any of the CMUpdater-based update apps (DC and Fresh both use these)).
It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.

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It's important to remember too, that each of the recovery images handle nandroids differently so if you nandroid in one, you have to use that same one to restore.
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not really. if you copy the nandroid file from one folder to the other folder, either one will load it.

From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.

drmacinyasha said:
From my experience, CWM doesn't flash ROMs as well as AR (Failed flashing the CM6 nightly twice, AR got it the first time) and also doesn't have a Wipe Dalvik option, or an as-easy way to mount the SD card.
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I never had a failure of flashing a rom, on any recovery, period. That is strange, sounds more like a problem with the rom.
CWM definitely has wipe dalvik option, it's under advanced. I just used it

Again clockwork has never failed me ever! It seems to clear cache fine to me as I have never had a boot loop I couldn't get out of.
So far there apears to be ZERO evidence of an issue with clockwork recovery so I guess I need to start asking developers why they are dissing clockwork recovery or just PM Koush directly.
If there is an issue I just want it to be addressed because I love the recovery and ROM Manager.

[Q] What partition does CWM get installed to by default?

I've broken CWM multiple times by clearing my /cache, /system, and my dalvik. When I get back into CWM nothing works. Is there a way that I can move CWM to an area that isn't going to be screwed with in normal flashing procedures?
To be quite detailed, it looks like the error messages are something to the effect of "Can't find /cache/foo/bar" or "Can't mount /cache/foo/bar". None of the CWM functions work. I've fixed it by flashing with Odin, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Cwm is built into the kernels intramfs so there is no moving it. Any kernel change u will get what cwm is built into that kernel.
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sorry for noob question but doesnt cwm stand for clockworkmod?

maxesxp said:
sorry for noob question but doesnt cwm stand for clockworkmod?
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Yes, very much so
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musclehead84 said:
Cwm is built into the kernels intramfs so there is no moving it. Any kernel change u will get what cwm is built into that kernel.
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I'm certain that the CWM installed by ROM Manager is stored in a different location from the kernel/recovery partition. Not sure where exactly, just that that it is possible to have two recoveries installed. One tied to the kernel and the ROM Manager CWM. It could be that one that's breaking.

What's your favourite custom recovery for now guys? ext4 recovery touch or cwm

sorry before, may be this is a stupid thread for asking common stuffs about recovery
but i just wanna know for this time what's your favourite custom recovery between cwm and ext4 recovery touch (include the version) or may be the others that u think the best. thank you guys

Probably ext 4
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Both are awesome, but I like CWM more
I've used both and both are great.
I personally find that CWM (ClockworkMod) is a little more straightforward and has a cleaner look to it. CWM now has touch, albeit it's not as feature or interface rich as 4ext's touch interface.
I should point out, however, that using CWM with some ROM's, I was unable to make selections when the ROM gives you options during flashing. For example, when I was flashing a rom that gave the option of installing the OC daemon, CWM didn't give me the option, it just said installation (of the OC daemon) cancelled, whereas 4ext said yes or no, and I was able to choose.
I use ROM Manager (+ premium) from the market to flash back to clockwork mod when I've had 4ext installed, and use 4ext Recovery Control to flash 4ext back.
I would post the links but xda says I can't yet Not new to android or xda by any means, but new to posting
Hope this helps

The recovery is called 4EXT, and that's what you should refer to it, as to avoid any sort of misunderstanding with the "ext4" filesystem.
With that said, 4EXT Touch is the best you can get. It has a lot of bugs fixed over from CWM. It is also fully compatible with ROM Manager.
Link to the 4EXT site: http://4ext.net/

4ext touch is what I prefer. I started with cwm and have mad love for it, but after one of the updates is was working awkward for me and I tried 4ext and never looked back.
I might add cwm is fixed now, and works flawlessly.
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They both flash roms fine. So to me, eh who cares? I mean no offense to the respective devs, but I compare it to who makes a better key to my car? Who cares as long as it works. Imho.
P.s. I know some people like fancy keyless entry and keyless start and panic mode.... so for them it makes a difference.
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Alternatives to Clockwork recovery

i have used clockwork recovery for a while. But is is old with not much development. is there a alternative that is better with all the functionality and more.

Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol

mellll said:
lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol
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HAHA I LMAO'd

Might happen with windows 8. They are messing with everything else why stop with the recycle bin lol.
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I'll second TWRP
when playing around with different roms and kernels, it's layout just seems more logical and natural. Didn't have any problems so far with wiping and installing stuff (that wipe cache/dalvik button after install is really handy)
Hope they continue to develop

I also use twrp. Best recovery overall IMO.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom

swogg said:
clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom
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Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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ÜBER™ said:
Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data

swogg said:
how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data
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You dont... means busted phone... like i said i could be wrong. Do you have enough space for the nandroid? you need about 2gigs for it to back up properly depending on how much /data you have... like how many apps you have... i have roughly 30-40 and my nandroids are around 800mbs... otherwise yes it will error.

ÜBER™ said:
Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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that's crazy to think about. I remember when Koush made it for the D1 just so we could flash CM because SPR used a different format. Thinking back, that guy did a LOT in a short amount of time

uoY_redruM said:
TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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+1 on this. I had just started using 4EXT on my Evo 3d, it was great. I think Clockwork mod is great as well but I prefer 4EXT and TWRP's user interface. I would use TWRP but it seems a lot of mods I wanna flash can't be done with it.
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I really liked AmonRA's recovery when I was on the Dream. I was sad when I had to switch to CM. But, now I'm cool with it.
-bZj
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I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.

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m.is.for.michael said:
I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.
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It's called learn to do the process yourself and not use rom manager...I have not had it on my phone since the evo it has never really worked on a Samsung phone and koush never wanted to fix it...
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Well thanks: I know how to do it myself, but rom manager and CWM is heaps more convenient and works fine for me on my gnex
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Though somebody helpfully just suggested on another thread that I should try goo manager instead of ROM manager. I might give that a go.

AT&T Samsung Galaxy S III - Touch Recovery

I know this might be a stupid question but I was wondering if they have a version of touch recovery for the AT&T SGS 3. I have seen the sprint one but was uncertain if the AT&T had one please if anyone knows can you point me in the right direction. Thank you for your help on this I really appreciate it!!

If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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lordmorphous said:
If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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Hey thank you i will do that but i was just wondering, thank you for the response.

I personally use cwm 5.8.4.5. Which is also touch. But my biggest reason is because its the only one with external access. I prefer my backups and ROMs on external.

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I personally use cwm 5.8.4.5. Which is also touch. But my biggest reason is because its the only one with external access. I prefer my backups and ROMs on external.
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TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.

thacounty said:
TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.
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I did not know that. I never switched over because the backups wernt compatible and I didn't want to lose them.

thacounty said:
TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.
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A couple weeks ago, I would have agreed with you. Then I upgraded to CWM 6.something. First impression was shaky. That first nandroid took over 20 minutes. But all subsequent backups take less than five and can be done straight from Rom Manager. Choose backup in RM, click OK, and it reboots to recovery, does a nandroid, then reboots the phone...hands free. The first nandroid backs everything up to a blobs folder. Subsequent backups only backup what has been changed...so very speedy.
Also, I can format /data in CWM. TWRP would always fail...but I do miss the touch interface of TWRP.

lordmorphous said:
If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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What he said. Tried TWRP back when it came out and was not pleased. Flashing was a chore with them. Don't know if it has changed. CMW is the king IMHO. Miss the touch part but it will come when its ready. Stick with what's tried and true. Is my opinion.
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A backup in twrp for me takes about 130 seconds to back up a tw rom, less for aosp roms. Not sure why your backups take so long. Been using twrp for the past year about and I see no reason to go back. Zip que, the gui, the organization are all much better in twrp in my opinion. Of course everyone's opinion differs but that's my 2 cents.
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corythug said:
A backup in twrp for me takes about 130 seconds to back up a tw rom, less for aosp roms. Not sure why your backups take so long. Been using twrp for the past year about and I see no reason to go back. Zip que, the gui, the organization are all much better in twrp in my opinion. Of course everyone's opinion differs but that's my 2 cents.
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I agree with this. Being able to flash the rom and gapps at once is pretty sweet. Plus Rom Manager seems to cause problems on roms. Of course I know you don't need Rom Manager to have CWM.