[Q] Verizon update - phone is way faster - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After the Verizon update, my phone is way faster then root. I also decided to completely start over and upgrade my phone. I haven't tried to root the phone yet. Just curious if others have noticed a difference? It could just be that my phone was f&%$ed up since this was the first time ever rooting. Would make a good poll question, slower, same faster?

I felt the difference from 2.1 to 2.2.. Did you upgrade from 2.1?

Way faster than root? Huh?

How long were you on the previous ROM?
I've noticed a full wipe makes a HUGE difference in performance or even just clearing out old texts and the Dalvik.

hEaTLoE said:
I've noticed a full wipe makes a HUGE difference in performance or even just clearing out old texts and the Dalvik.
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+1 on that, especially the texts when you start getting above 400-500. I remember when I had the Touch Pro 2... after about 200 of them the phone would REALLY slow down..

Every new rom feels fast initially. You really got to have the rom for a solid week or two before you can make an accurate comparison.

Too many variables to pin down why it's now faster. I went from 2.1 to 2.2 then rooted. I've been rooted since incredible was first broken but I am a NEWBIE. I also had issues with my phone such as SD Card would not load when charging. Also random reboots after I rooted that I reported but could never get right. I tried to follow the procedures each time I put the new Rom on, wiping data, rom, cache but could never get things stable. This of course is no scientific evidence but my phone is probably at least double the speed when I had the rooted rom. Anyway I will wait for the new Verizon maintenance patch to be broken and try again. In any case just to get the speed and the SDcard loading all the time makes me happy I'm back before root. I do miss my special font and being able to do a full backup. If I could do a "run as" like in windows just to be able to run certain approved programs I would be happy. No offense to anyone, I know the Rom developers put a lot of work into what they do. I will root again! (lol) So since I am a newbie, may I ask everyone is there something like a "run as" command in this phone form of Linux?

I have hours upon hours of automation in my phone for my business.
I'm so content with the first leaked stock rom, I can only image redoing all this work because I need a physically different phone for a business solution... At this moment, I can't imagine what that would be. But I may never swap another rom on this phone.. And I may not envy another rom.. Maybe

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Phone back on and off??????

ok recently when im using my evo, and i do some multitasking, the freaking phone keeps turning off and restarts itself, at the beggining i thought ok maybe it frost or something, but now every other day im using it and im in the internet and facebook and other apps, it freezes for a bit and restarts itself. which is annnnoyyyying me cuz i loose everything i was doinggggg....ANY SOLUTIONS WHATS THE PROBLEM, IS IT THE PHONE???
Are u rooted.... if u are have u tried other roms with multiple wipes before the flash? Also my old evo did that after i rooted it and i could not find a fix but luckily i broke the screen an got a new one that dosent have that issue!
i forgot to ask are u saying a full reboot or just to the boot screen?
My first guess would be that you deleted something that the system needs to run. I believe you cannot delete friendstream, calender, etc some stupid apps that you might believe are completely useless but somehow HTC integrated them into the system as necessary system files.
Also did you fiddle with your SetCPU or kernals? Using setcpu to alter your CPU frequency can result in system crashes and different kernals have different set vcores. If the vcore is too low for your chip it does not have enough juice to operate properly and therefore crashes.
If you are stock then I'm not sure what it could be...
no this phone is not rooted (itz cuz i dont know how too lol), and its exactly how it came when i first got it,
the only things im running is
launcher pro plus as my default launcher. and just normal widgets like fancy widget and custom icons nothing major.
everything works perfect, but it keeps restart itself after a do alot of multitasking, cuz usually a app will get the "Force close" when its not working but for me it just freezes and restart itself , it goes to the "Sprint logo & 4g start up" just like how it would do when you first start your phone, the only thing is doesnt do is that it doesnt shot the HTC EVO 4G IN THE BEGGINING, JUST THE SPRINT AND 4G LOGO, than everything reloads itself on the screen.
and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?
Interesting... Have you scanned your phone for any malware? Perhaps there is something there that should not be.
Here is what I would do:
Factory reset and run the phone stock without any apps for a day. If you still have issues - switch phones ASAP.
If you do not have issues after the reset, start installing one app at a time till you find the one that is buggy.
Hope this helps.
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and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?
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yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
I'm really surprised your phone is not rooted. I was going to guess you were OC'd just a little too high. My Dad had similar problems with his unrooted EVO before the 2.2 update. I never narrowed it down but I think it was a problem with Beautiful Widgets. I loaded a bunch of non-root apps on his phone (LP, handcent, BW, etc.), trying to set him up, and he was plagued with reboots so he wiped it all and went back to 100% stock. I still can't convince him to root.
aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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Its a combination of things really.
1) HTC is not known for having the best build quality. Motorola, for example, is light years ahead.
2) The Android marketplace is not regulated like the Appstore. You will frequently get force closed apps because 1) Apps are regulated by the devs, not Google and 2) there is just a huge abundance of Android phones with many differences between them.
Your phone should not be resetting itself. A force close is different than a reboot. I would call HTC/Sprint and ask for a different phone. Might want to add the fact that none of your friends Evos do this so it is singled out to yours specifically.
thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.
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thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.
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My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.
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My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.
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This is not accurate..
80% of the members here ARE able to help, but 90% of those members will choose not to if you are rude and disrespectful like some other people choose to be.
Rooting your phone may very well fix your problems.
It may not help at all, but many of the roms available are far more stable than stock.
Uninstall all of your non-stock apps and see if the problem persists. If it does not then you know it was a software problem and you can either take the plunge and root and go from there, or reinstall your apps one by one and see when you start having problems again. If you uninstall all non-stock apps and you still have issues then you may have a hardware problem in which case you should try to get your ohone replaced especially if you are still in your 30 days.
Keep in mind that even if you root and technically void your warranty a) your warranty being void is at the discretion of the CS rep you talk to and b) rooting does NOT void your insurance and your insurance covers manufacturing defects at no cost to you.
Try to learn some basic troubleshooting habits and avoid things like: homophobic comments, advising members to kill themselves, excessive swearing, calling people trolls when you are clearly being a troll yourself, and you will get all the advice you ask for.
Unrevoked has been pulled temporarily for some bugfixing so rooting 2.2 is actually not possible right now until they re-release it, or you find a copy of Unrevoked 3 somewhere (which is a bad idea, only use an official copy made available by the Unrevoked team) so take some time to read up, ask questions and understand some of the fundamentals of what you are getting into before you do something like break your wifi and not realize it's an easy fix then come on here and freak out.
Rooting is intimidating before you do it the first few times, but if you follow the guides to the letter and stay calm you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the staying calm part. There isn't much you can do to your phone that is irreversible, it's just a matter of preparing for potential problems and knowing what steps to take to recover from them.
If you are remotely inclined to learn how to root your phone then do it!! But only if you have enough time to devote to what will soon become your new hobby/obsession, it's that much fun
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When was the last time you actually gave anything to a thread or these forums? Honestly bro everything I have seen you post is useless and non-technical in every aspect. Not trying to be mean to you but stop trying to help when you don't give good advice. We get it, you have a high post count. Good for you.
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You're an idiot, the only posts of mine you've probably seen are responses to your offensive drivel. I don't care what you think of me, and am not about to provide you with proof that I know my ****. I don't care about post count and the advice I give is sound.
Look in a mirror.
No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.
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No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.
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Agreed! Refrain from rooting because that will void your warranty.
aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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I think what he meant was weather or not this still happens without installing launcherpro at all, when you're just running the default launcher. Also, does it still happen if you remove/uninstall all of your widgets/apps? If yes, and this still happens with no widgets running, and no apps installed, you may want to talk to Sprint about an exchange.
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[Q] Droid Incredible Newb Question

As we all know the stock ROM that verizon pushes to our phone has a new annoying feature. When u connect the phone to the PC it makes a virtual CDROM drive. Ever since that got created on my phone it has caused me nothing but headaches. Namely that it causes my optical (DVDRW) drive tray to cycle open and closed. I thought that once I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM that would go away. Sadly this is not the case. how do I get my phone to stop creating this virtual drive? Im assuming there is something in the ROM that can be changed to stop this. Now I know there is usually a CDROM.ISO file that exists in the stock HTC ROM and if u remove/rename that the drive wont show up in My Computer. My question is why does the HTC Android Phone USB device still appear on my system? Is there a way to prevent my phone from doing this? I am really tired of having my drive tray open and close for hours on end. I have taken to disabling the DVDRW in the device manager to get it to stop. I want to avoid doing that. Please help.
Nobody has any ideas??
Well I have some news. After I posted here on a whim I decided to send a support email to HTC. And they responded with some nifty instructions.
1. dial ##7764726
2. hit call
3. Type password 000000 (thats 6 zeros)
4. hit feature settings
5. choose cdrom
6. click disable
7. hit menu then commit modifications (it will say no item changed)
I tried the above instructions but I did not get any password box. It actually called the number. Maybe this only works if you are on the stock ROM? Anybody have any ideas about this?
The tip that they gave you won't stop it from showing up as a CD-ROM Drive. All that does it prevents that prompt for VZW driver installation. Any ROM based on the stock ROM (Virtuous, Skyraider, Redemption, etc.) will have this CD-ROM drive show up, though most of those ROMs have the driver issue disabled by default.
Switching to an AOSP ROM (like Cyanogen(mod)) will get rid of it.
I tried the HTC tip from within the stock rom and it does show up.
Why is it that this was never removed from any of the roms based on the stock rom?
I have tried Cyanogenmod and it restarts on me at the wierdest times.I can not even be doing anything with it. And poof it will restart. Dunno why either.
Rooted, yes? SwiFTP from market, no USB cable necessary.
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Yes its rooted. Thats how i got cyanogenmod flashed enuf to know its restarting for no reason. Seeing as my 2yo lost the wall charger adaptor somewhere in the house its the only way I have of charging my phone. its also how I put my audio books and music on my phone. The amount of data moving across is more than what a wireless connection should transfer. Its alot faster with a direct connection. Besides, Doubletwist airsync is not worth the money.
Why is it that this was never removed from any of the roms based on the stock rom?
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Because they can't. It's part of the framework now.
I have tried Cyanogenmod and it restarts on me at the wierdest times.I can not even be doing anything with it. And poof it will restart. Dunno why either.
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CM6 or CM7? CM6 is stable. Minor bugs, but reboots shouldn't be noticeably more than stock. On stock, I'd get maybe one reboot per week. On CM6, about the same.
CM7 is considered in an alpha state right now. It's going through nightly builds. Each build adds a feature or two, and then the next build is meant to add in another feature or two, while fixing bugs that came up from the last build's feature introduction. We may not see a release candidate for at least another month due to the fact that their remaining feature list to be implemented is still rather long.
Bottom line is, if you're slamming CM7 for stability, well, that's to be expected. It's not even officially in beta yet. The sad thing is, it's more stable than all but the grade-A ROMs out there today.
No CM7 for me. I live and breath with my phone to use something that is still being developed. I had flashed the following flavors of ROM:
Incredibly Re-Engineered rebooted 4 times in a matter of 8 hours.
Cyanogenmod 6 stable rebooted twice in the same time period.
I flashed nothing else to the phone except the radio which is 2.15.00.11.19. I did the radio b4 I even got around to flashing the rom and never had a single issue with it. Wanted to make sure nothing was gonna go south b4 moving on. Had the radio flashed for over a week and never had to restart my phone once. Im just trying to find something other than the stock rom.
I like the cyanogen rom cause it has the vanilla interface. Thats the first thing I flashed. Only part I didnt like about it was the camera interface. Felt like I had less control over settings. Also there are no ability to do wide screen pics from what I have been able to figure out. i like that ability. Hence the switch to the Reingineered. Was happy with it for the most part. Felt snappier than the stock interface only had a problem hitting the button for the phone cause it was so blasted small on the screen. Kept fat fingering the home and menu buttons below the screen. I want something stable and doesnt lose any of the features I have on the stock rom. I know thats asking alot but one can hope.
UD?
Maybe try UltimateDroid v 2.5?
Lots of features you describe - I run it w/ InvisibleK's #18 kernel, haven't been happier.
Plus, no annoying popups when connecting USB
I do know that Skyraider sense 3.5 has the CD-ROM feature removed. That rom is based off of sense if you like that kind of stuff( I know I do)
So basically all that will show up in device manager (if you have Skyraider rom) will be the mass storage device(s): SD and internal. No cd-rom device detected from phone. If I remember correctly, I think the developer created a script that removed that from his rom.
Ill give it a whirl

CM7.2 issues--lagging losing connection

Hi, hoping that someone out there will have some answers or solutions for me! My boyfriend is knowledgeable enough to help me flash new roms/radios to my phone, but is not confident enough to change anything like overclocking, or any of the advanced settings in my current rom, CM 7.2
Even back in 7.0 and 7.1, my phone was always losing signal--for example, losing data connectivity in my office for several hours! This is using the radio that comes with 7.2, as well as several others (my current radio is 12.28h.60.140fU_26.06.02.25). I'm kind of at my wits end---it's frustrating when everyone around me is using their phone no problem and I can't even get a signal because my phone is saying it lost data connectivity because it's out of range/roaming! Is this an issue I could bring up with my wireless provider, or is this a rom or hardware issue?
My other current concern is that in the last week, my phone has been running very slowly--there is a delay almost every time I press an icon, whether it be messaging, gmail, or facebook. Facebook and other apps have been especially slow--if I haven't opened it recently, it will take about 10 seconds to start loading, with a black screen in the mean time. I've tried switching apps from the phone to the SD card and back, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'd hate to re-install the rom and go through the work of changing all of my settings if it ends up not fixing anything (waiting for an official release of CM9 anyways). Is there any settings I can change that would speed it up?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
your best off trying a new radio and flashing your rom over, yeah this can suck but im sure it will be well worth the time spent in the end.
you can restore most apps+data to the same point with titanium backup
if you use a custom launcher most of those settings can be backed up
sms backup + will take care of messages and call logs for you
really it wont take too long and you will be much much happier.
just make sure to do a full wipe when you reflash the rom
and when you change radios you can wipe efs and change ril-libs
this may also help out a lot -- here is some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335127
again - read through this material first - do a full wipe - reflash rom - try new radio -
wipe efs and change ril-libs
you are now happy... after you restore everything to your desire!
do a nandroid!
I think that what demkantor said regarding radio and the sorts is pretty solid. Radios are a trial and error thing, it's different for everyone, so test and see what works for you in terms of performance/battery life.
Performance wise, if you like CyanogenMod, I would highly recommend switching to ILWT CM7. It is considerably faster and has better battery life when compared to official CM. You can find it under the development section in this forum.
From there you can use the Supercharger V6 script, which also adds a boost most welcome. Try to avoid using task killers, they'll only slow down the phone as it will try to restore the killed processes. Also, try to keep your app count as low as possible. Having many apps slows things down A LOT. Ideally you should only keep the apps you need, in addition to 20~ complimentary (games and so on). There are also other apps called 'rogue'. They tend to hog your system resources and drain battery. You should notice this by looking at the battery stats/running processes windows. You'll have to
From there, you can achieve more performance you can overclock. My suggestion is to use CPU Tuner, get familiarized with it and set up some profiles, in order to preserve battery as it degrades.
(Hopefully) last edit: I wish I could add more to this subject but my provider's reception up here does not allow me to. I hope the above info will suffice.
Sent from my DZ.
OK, first of all, @demkantor, Titanium Backup is awesome! it kept all of my presets for EVERYTHING. Thanks for that referral!
I reflashed CM7.2 last night and all seems good so far--not as laggy as it had been, though I haven't opened tons of programs since last night, either.
I will take a look at the efs and ril-lib details--I've used that thread to find radios before, but kind of ignored those subjects, since the new radios technically worked, but not WELL.
@crestofawave Thanks, I might try ILWTCM7, at least until CM9 comes out, because battery life has also definitely always been an issue for me. However, not super confident about adding the supercharger V6 script and fiddling around with my CPU. Is there any sort of beginner's guide you can recommend for doing this? If I switch to ILWTCM7 but don't run the script or overclock, can I still expect a significant change in performance/battery life?
I really can't do much else about reducing battery usage--I've recently switched to the paid versions of some games, to eliminate those battery-eating ads I hear so much about, and I keep bluetooth, GPS, and WIFI off unless I am actively using them.

Note 4 Verizon no 4g and now lost 3g - in a strong 4g / 3g area

SOLVED! - see post #7
This SM-N910V is rooted and had 3g but apparently I lost that when mucking around with things trying to get 4g. I've got other phones like a Galaxy S5 and Galaxy Note 5 both Verizon models that get 4g or 3g fine in this same location.
First odd thing I noticed on the Note 4 was a setting that popped up seemingly by itself while in 'More Networks' and 'Mobile Networks' that showed VZWInternet with a circle by that which was not yet checked so I tapped that and it turned green in the circle. I have never been able to see that option again. I don't think this caused the problem though. I've looked at apns-conf.xml in the /system/etc folder and can't see a problem there. I also tried replacing that with another one that is supposed to fix LTE mode. No luck so I put back the original. I wiped cache and reflashed a backup with TWRP which had been working on 3G but that didn't help - no 3g even. I did not wipe Dalvik/ART cache. I had been messing around in the 'Service Mode' menu with a bunch of different settings in an attempt to get 4g working but I'm fairly certain I got everything set back the way it was before I started. I noticed that one setting I had left different in the Service menu did not change back after flashing a restore with TWRP (full restore - all boxes checked). The one setting I left changed was the under the 'AS' protocol menu where I changed the Release version control to "LTE 3GPP REL 9" from LTE 3GPP REL 10". I know enough to be dangerous
Open to any suggestions - am wondering at the moment if I should have wiped the Dalvik/ART cache before the whole TWRP restore? At this point I'd be happy just to get 3g working again.
I also tried Dr. Ketan's LTE Enable. That didn't fix anything. Although I see MNC and MCC numbers in the apns-conf.xml file when I look at the SIM with a SIM info App I just see blanks in those spots on the SIM. Not sure if that's relevant - just giving as much info as I can here.
Did another restore with TWRP after wiping Dalvik/ART cache but that didn't fix it either. Strong cell signal but no 3G or 4G.
More info - I put the SIM card in another phone and it sees 3G at least.
It seems the "lost 3g or 4g" problem is very common and it seems I've looked through dozens of message threads here but I'm not finding any solutions. I'm looking at flashing the 'ltefix.zip' from this thread but it seemed to be for a custom ROM and I've just got the stock - more or less - 5.1.1.
Hmmm.... Been at this all day reading here, searching, trying everything but still no Mobile Data. Is this as elusive as rooting a Verizon Note 5? LOL - it was working at least on 3G. I'll take hints or even wild guesses at this point.
Okay - it finally flashed on me to do a restore of my EFS. Oddly I had done a full restore with TWRP which include EFS but that didn't fix the problem. That TWRP backup was done the same day I did an EFS backup using Dr. Ketan's IMEI tool for the Note 4. When I used the IMEI tool to restore the EFS backup I then had the 3G come back on. This is a 4G SIM so I still don't know why I'm not getting 4G but at least I got 3G back. I did have a hiccup using this IMEI tool which initially caused the phone to repeatedly shutdown after a minute or so and could not be restarted without pulling the battery. I believe it had to do with the 'Restore' button needing to be held down a certain amount of time instead of just a tap. I probably held, released too soon then held longer which I suspect caused a partial or damaged EFS restore. Be careful in how you use this tool or you may end up in that situation. I had to work very fast after a bootup to get it properly restored. After that it was stable again and had 3G.
Now if only I could figure out what it takes to get 4G.
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I wasn't getting 4G for the longest time, checked the PRL in settings on my GFs phone and noticed my PRL ver was like 50 thousand something while hers was 15518. Got a new Sim card and all my issues went away, PSA do not use *228 programming...EVER.
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Update/more info - I've continued to try and figure this out to no avail, although I got fed up with stock unrooted 5.1 and am now running modestrom v9 with a CQI2 base. And all of that install went fine, except for 4g of course.
I think this is worth mentioning as it might have something to do with the situation:
Way back in the beginning, I had gone through the entire unlock/root process, and everything actually worked fine the first time. This was right about the time the unlock became available, I bought the phone based specifically on that being possible, and got a brand new one at that time. Well, it was awesome for about 2 weeks, fully functional 4g and everything.
I had a very particular goal - I wanted this phone totally unlocked, but I was also very interested in the advanced/wifi calling that was supposedly coming out at that time - I was planning to move to a place with no vzw service and would be reliant on wifi for calls at home. Verizon wasn't clear about the fact that the wifi calling feature wasn't coming until MM, and this was before MM was released, so I was running a completely functional, 5.1.1 rom. I believe it was jasmine. So, under the impression that "advanced calling" would have given me wifi calling, I tried to enable it.
I cant recall if it was immediately, or a few hours after, but this is when the phone lost 4g for the first time. I immediately tried to deactivate the advanced calling feature on my line, but it didn't help. And nothing I could do would bring back 4g. I tried everything possible, and ultimately gave up and threw the phone in a drawer and went back to my note 3.
Fast forward several months, and my note 3 began to have issues with call audio, forcing me to use the 3g-only note 4 in order to actually handle day to day business. Again, I went through the processes of trying to fix 4g, with no success. Now by this time, MM had been released, I believe PD1 was the current firmware. I figured at this point it was time to just odin back to 5.1.1 and start everything over.
So I odin flashed the phone, and it booted into 5.1.1......with no 4g. Again I went through all the things I found here, no improvement. Finally, one day when the phone was bugging me about an OTA, I figured "what can it hurt at this point, its nearly useless without 4g anyhow."
And low and behold, the OTA update from verizon booted up and immediately jumped to 4g.
Now I felt I had a chance, a method that I'd finally proven could fix the problem. I left the phone in that state for a couple weeks, just to prove that it was holding. No problems during this time.
But I got sick of no root, and so I figured it was time to try and go through the steps again. And again, I lost the 4g connection. No big deal, just odin back to 5.1.1 and let it OTA like last time......
Except this time it didn't work. So I odin flashed back to 5.1 again, and let it try to OTA, again. I let the phone continually try to OTA all the way up to current, and flashed back to 5.1 at least 3 times to repeat the process in hopes it might fix something. No change at all. At this point I actually began to try and see if possibly Kies could help me here - maybe there was something related to the phones EFS? Which I don't understand very well btw - it was only through reading this thread that I began to research EFS and its significance. I also attempted to use some of the checkboxes in odin - the ones to erase all NAND and to clear EFS and rebuild it. Neither option made any difference. So I figured next logical step was to start playing around in service mode, which would require unlocking/rooting again......
And thats how I landed here. About an hour ago I got sick of the stock 5.1.1 and went through the whole root/unlock process and I'm currently running modestrom on CQI2 or whatever was just most recently posted. Every other part of the phone seems normal, but still no 4g. I can actually see the radio making an attempt to connect in the service mode - but I don't understand service mode menus well enough to interpret where the actual problem is. Upon boot the phone tries about 3 or 4 times to get an lte signal, during this time there is simply bars of signal, NO data indicator of any kind. Eventually, it gets frustrated and gives up, connecting to 3g and staying there. I realize now that when 3g drops, which is roughly every 10 minutes or so, its actually the phone attempting to establish LTE again. But still, I cannot make any sense of this.
Apologies for the giant post - I'm trying to put anything that could possibly be relevant info into one place here.
So........ anyone got any suggestions?
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PM sent. Just to share a little of that here I think the first thing I would do is tell VZ you suspect your SIM card is bad and have them put in another one. Tell them it fell out when changing a battery, the dog ate it and by the time it came out you suspect it wasn't quite right anymore - LOL. I do think SIM's flake out sometimes and I know a bad one can prevent 4G from working. If you ever had an EFS backup from anything try restoring ONLY the EFS (if you use TWRP). No guarantees that will fix it but my best guesses at this point. Good luck.
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I supect Verizon's doing this ...
acslam said:
I got a used stock note 4 to try and compare and see what I could be missing here....
Tried new sim card at least twice, unfortunately no dice, and the same card pops right into the spare note 4 and it wakes up on 4g just fine.......
EFS is something I probably should have been quick enough to dig in deeper on before this, as I don't have any backup of it....... however, I'm not seeing any other symptoms, I can see my imei fine, and every other function works. Is it possible that corrupted EFS can cause the loss of just one type of connection like that?
For giggles I tried a friends att sim, and no lte on that either.
Playing with the app LTE discovery, I can tell that the phone sees 4 different LTE towers just fine, showing db numbers exactly in line with the stock note 4 sitting right next to it, theres just something there under the surface thats stopping them from hooking up...... it stops trying after a couple minutes, rejects them all and connects to 3g.
I'm convinced its some kind of software thing, but I can't tell exactly where the failure is happening.....
I also odin flashed it back to stock bpa1, and still no dice. Is there a means to make an EFS backup without root? I want to see what happens if I try unlocking the other note 4 as well, but this time I want to have the backups......
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I've been running on Emotion 7.1.1 for months with NO issues (well, some minor stuff, you know....)
Suddenly, two weeks ago I got a notice from Google that I had to sign in on my phone. Verrrryyy odd. At first I suspected some hack attempt, but my Account checked out fine. Having changed my password recently, I had to wait until I got home to login.
After I logged in, all ~appeared~ to be OK. Then I opened my Calendar. B L A N K. All ten years of appointments gone. I freaked out. I have two calendars, one for personal stuff, birthdays and the like, and another with my business appointments, INCLUDING FINANCIAL STATUS of the account. Gone.
Went online on my PC, signed into Gmail and switched to my calendar. Empty. Looked in Trash. Nothing. Vanished. Nada. Niet. There's a long story here about recovery efforts, troubleshooting, Googling, etc, suffice to say that TWO separate, redundant, backups had quietly failed, without the notifications they were supposed to send. I did manage to get from the first week in April back 10 years, but lost the whole summer. Thank YOU-KNOW-WHO that I'm good friends with all my clients.
Fast forward to last week. Suddenly I get 3G only from my Verizon account. Like you, I spent days on the boards, downloading ROMS, wiping, re-wiping, trying everything short of smoke signals to get it back. No joy. I did NOT go back to stock, I must thank you greatly, as that was my next road. Now i see it's a dead end. I will NOT give up my Nougat root just to get 4G.
Perhaps this is a bit conspiracy theory sounding, but I've become convinced that Verizon is playing some game, perhaps to force us to upgrade to a new phone. I learned long ago that corporations have no soul, and will do anything they like to increase profits. They exist for two reasons; to make money for their officers and to make money for their stockholders. Any other semblance of a "Product" or "Service" exist ONLY and SOLELY for that reason. Anyone who is a Yahoo or AOL member knows the level of intrusive ads and attempts to trick people into putting spyware in their machines under the guise of "protection" or "cleanup" programs has jumped to a new level of absurdity since Verizon sucked them up. "Oath" indeed. It's what is coming out of existing customer's mouths! M O N E Y H U N G R Y.
When I chatted at length with a Verizon Tech, she made it clear that she knew the answer was to upgrade to the latest stock (I never admitted to rooting, but she knew, we spoke "between the lines" a lot). She sent me a SIM card, but it., of course, didn't fix the problem, in fact it would not even initialize properly! I had to go back to the original SIM.
Now that we've found a way (after YEARS of trying) around their stupid block on rooting, they change the game. What person who is so into their phone as to root it, will put up with 3G? This is something Verizon is playing at, Sprint too from what I gather.
My only consolation is that I've got so many WiFi's nearly everywhere I go, and when I'm not near one, my Wife's Note 4 (not rooted, on latest update) works fine. I'm glad I decided not to root hers too.
Frankly, this really ticks me off. I have better things to do than spend days copying files, flashing and reloading data. Verizon knows that, and let me tell you, it won't be THEM who sees my money when I finally do upgrade.
Thanks again for saving me from the Stock route, you saved me hours of grief.
Peace out!
PuterPro
I have run into 4g issues with this as well and almost came to conclusion is a modem issue. I want to say but can not confirm that modems that are flashed are relative to bootloader on the device. Just something I've been pondering on as I had a unlocked bootloader device and flashed for wife to use with no root and recently unlocked again.
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Question Help Desperately Needed - Random Reboots

So I posted about this previously but here's more info and a clearer summary
The Issue:
Phone randomly reboots about an average of once per day. Screen freezes, goes black, comes back on for 3 seconds still frozen, then proceeds to reboot. I've kept track and 100% of of the time this seems to happen when I'm typing. Initially I thought it was Textra, but it has happened in Snapchat, and Twitch whenever the google keyboard is up. Google sent a replacement phone and the issues persists, and I find it hard to believe that both phone would have the exact same hardware issue. Furthermore it very much seems like a software issue considering it ONLY happens when the google keyboard is up.
My hope is that someone might have encountered this and has a simple solution although I doubt it. Unfortunately since I don't have another phone, I have to wait to obtain one before I do a safe mode test. And even if I do it's not realistic for me to test it that way because I'd have to spend hours typing away just to try to get the issue to occur (since it's not frequent like every 5 minutes).
I'm suspecting some data or a setting is getting transferred over from my previous backup that's affecting google keyboard or something of the sort. My next step will be a factory reset, and then reinstalling everything bit by bit manually. Of course I have to link my google account, but I won't have it automatically restore the backup. If that doesn't help then I'm at a loss. At that point I'd probably pick up a cheap Pixel 2XL as my daily, and use my P6Pro in safe mode as much as I can to try to trigger the issue I guess?
The Phone:
Pixel 6 Pro
Not Rooted
November 5 Update
Set up done using my google account to restore all apps and settings, not cable
Remind me since I don't recall if it was brought up in your other thread about the issue, did you try Official Google Android Flash Tool yet?
Agree with edor, Android flash tool, flash both slots, start all over
roirraW edor ehT said:
Remind me since I don't recall if it was brought up in your other thread about the issue, did you try Official Google Android Flash Tool yet?
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I have not tried this. What would this be used for?
ne0ns4l4m4nder said:
Agree with edor, Android flash tool, flash both slots, start all over
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Not sure what that means sorry, can you elaborate?
MarkAnthony121 said:
I have not tried this. What would this be used for?
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To wipe the phone and start back fresh.
MarkAnthony121 said:
Not sure what that means sorry, can you elaborate?
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Just that. To start back fully fresh. Then if you do that take my advice from the other thread, don't restore backups from Google or anywhere, and initially only install your most critical apps. Once you determine you're not having the problem, install some more. Verify, repeat.
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Agree with edor, Android flash tool, flash both slots, start all over
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Not sure what that means sorry, can you elaborate?
roirraW edor ehT said:
To wipe the phone and start back fresh.
Just that. To start back fully fresh. Then if you do that take my advice from the other thread, don't restore backups from Google or anywhere, and initially only install your most critical apps. Once you determine you're not having the problem, install some more. Verify, repeat.
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Yes but I don't understand what "flash both slots" means. And wouldn't I get the same result by simply doing a factory reset and then proceeding with the method of installing everything manually and not from a backup? Why use the google flash tool vs factory reset?
MarkAnthony121 said:
Not sure what that means sorry, can you elaborate?
Yes but I don't understand what "flash both slots" means. And wouldn't I get the same result by simply doing a factory reset and then proceeding with the method of installing everything manually and not from a backup? Why use the google flash tool vs factory reset?
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At this point, that's more information than you really need to know to try to fix your phone. I don't want to overcomplicate things. You can look at Google search results for "Pixel flash both slots" if you really want to go down that road right now.
Spoiler: Some of the details you're asking for, but you don't need right now
In short, starting with the Pixel 1 in 2016, they have two copies of almost everything (except only one copy of user data). On a Pixel, and another phone that employs dual slots, when you receive an OTA update, it updates the copy of Android that you're not currently running, then reboots into the one it just updated, and once rebooted it goes ahead and updates the copy that you're no longer running, so they're both now updated.
Not all OEMs use the dual partition strategy, which is frustrating. When I briefly had the Note 10+ before the P6P came out, I was amazed that Samsung still hasn't adopted the method. It beats the old style OTA method that Samsung still uses to this day as far as I know where it takes 15-20 minutes or more to run the update while your phone is unable to be used at all, and then even when it boots up the next time Android has to finish the job "optimizing" your apps for the new update. Dual partitions for Android save a lot of time when updating the phone.
In some manual flashing processes, you end up with one slot with a different copy of what you have in the other slot - and you don't want that. The slots are referred to as Slot A and Slot B.
I can go further into detail but you don't really need that to fix your phone.
All you need to know right now is Official Google Android Flash Tool.
If you haven't already tried the factory reset, et cetera, which we had recommended to you at least once in the other thread, then by all means, you can try that. But if you're going to try that, you might as well just use the Official Google Android Flash Tool and ensure you are 100% stock. Official Google Android Flash Tool has fixed a good dozen or two folks' issues (I haven't been keeping count) in these forums in the past 2+ months.
So if the factory resetting doesn't solve things then you'll still have to try Official Google Android Flash Tool to be closer to sure that you tried everything that you could. We had already suggested the Factory Reset to you in the other thread. Since you created a new thread, I figured you might be looking for information you hadn't been given yet.
So the short answer is because Official Google Android Flash Tool will do an even more complete job of putting your phone back to 100% stock, with a lot less doubt than a simple factory reset. Sure, a factory reset, in theory, should get you the same thing, but there are all sorts of circumstances where a factory reset won't. Something is wrong with your phone and we don't know what it is.
There's the Factory Reset idea and then there's the Official Google Android Flash Tool idea - either coupled with the staggered manual installation of apps until you narrow down if it was a particular app causing the issue. It doesn't matter which one you choose to try first. If you try just a Factory Reset, and things still go haywire, then you'll still have to try Official Google Android Flash Tool after that. It's your choice, now pick one and go forth and hopefully reboot no more.
Also, I wasn't going to mention this but I will now. Forums generally discourage users from creating multiple threads about the same issue or posting about the same issue in multiple threads. You can always update the OP (opening/first post) if you need to, and give an update as a reply to your existing thread.
MarkAnthony121 said:
So I posted about this previously but here's more info and a clearer summary
The Issue:
Phone randomly reboots about an average of once per day. Screen freezes, goes black, comes back on for 3 seconds still frozen, then proceeds to reboot. I've kept track and 100% of of the time this seems to happen when I'm typing. Initially I thought it was Textra, but it has happened in Snapchat, and Twitch whenever the google keyboard is up. Google sent a replacement phone and the issues persists, and I find it hard to believe that both phone would have the exact same hardware issue. Furthermore it very much seems like a software issue considering it ONLY happens when the google keyboard is up.
My hope is that someone might have encountered this and has a simple solution although I doubt it. Unfortunately since I don't have another phone, I have to wait to obtain one before I do a safe mode test. And even if I do it's not realistic for me to test it that way because I'd have to spend hours typing away just to try to get the issue to occur (since it's not frequent like every 5 minutes).
I'm suspecting some data or a setting is getting transferred over from my previous backup that's affecting google keyboard or something of the sort. My next step will be a factory reset, and then reinstalling everything bit by bit manually. Of course I have to link my google account, but I won't have it automatically restore the backup. If that doesn't help then I'm at a loss. At that point I'd probably pick up a cheap Pixel 2XL as my daily, and use my P6Pro in safe mode as much as I can to try to trigger the issue I guess?
The Phone:
Pixel 6 Pro
Not Rooted
November 5 Update
Set up done using my google account to restore all apps and settings, not cable
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I've heard of freezing problems from others related to gboard. This would indeed appear to be a software flaw. I've never really used gboard since the first step for me was google-free AOSP, then put in my sim card and start using it (I don't like spyware).
Simplest solution for you would likely be to try a different soft keyboard. Personally, I would suggest finding one on f-droid rather than play store because open source.
For what it's worth, I've been using GBoard for 5+ years and have never had a problem.
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I've heard of freezing problems from others related to gboard. This would indeed appear to be a software flaw. I've never really used gboard since the first step for me was google-free AOSP, then put in my sim card and start using it (I don't like spyware).
Simplest solution for you would likely be to try a different soft keyboard. Personally, I would suggest finding one on f-droid rather than play store because open source.
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I used to root back in the day and use a custom ROM. If I do that there's no automatic updates right? Have to reload a new ROM for updates?
MarkAnthony121 said:
I used to root back in the day and use a custom ROM. If I do that there's no automatic updates right? Have to reload a new ROM for updates?
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Depends on the ROM. I believe GrapheneOS has OTA updates. I know some others over the years have had that, too. Certainly not most custom ROMs but some.
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Depends on the ROM. I believe GrapheneOS has OTA updates. I know some others over the years have had that, too. Certainly not most custom ROMs but some.
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Thanks for all the help. (sorry for posting twice, I tried to delete the other) And I did appreciate the extra info so that I understood WHY I needed to do it this way and how it all functions. Two final questions. On modern phones like this one, does running a custom rom really improve battery/performance much? It's already pretty snappy for me, so I feel if I don't care about customizability it's probably not worth the effort for minimal reward. And second question, will the flash tool give me the option to clear both slots ?
Oh and third, is it ok to link my google account, (to get my contacts and such) as long as I'm not restoring any backups from it?
MarkAnthony121 said:
Thanks for all the help. (sorry for posting twice, I tried to delete the other) And I did appreciate the extra info so that I understood WHY I needed to do it this way and how it all functions.
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You're very welcome!
MarkAnthony121 said:
Two final questions. On modern phones like this one, does running a custom rom really improve battery/performance much?
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In my opinion, no, but the object of some ROMs (like GrapheneOS) are more geared towards very much increased security and avoidance of all the Google data-collecting that goes on with everything Google, although you can use some or most Google apps with GrapheneOS if you choose.
I've never actually tried GrapheneOS, though - I've only kept up with the two threads about them because I was curious about it. To me, starting with my first Pixel (I never owned a Nexus device), I liked stock Android way better for my purposes.
But just as for a lot of phone-related subjects, the answer to this question is very subjective. What's right for me isn't right for everyone. Everyone's needs are different. The only way of knowing for sure is to try it. You might try something and very quickly say "to heck with that, I'm going back", or you might say "oh, I like this loads better". I'm not a betting man unless something is a near 100% chance, so it's really a toss-up whether you would like a different ROM or not.
Also, how I handle my battery works great for me - but it wouldn't for everyone. I don't charge the phone until it gets down to 25%, and I try not to let it get any lower than 25%. I only charge the phone up to 75% when I can. I never charge overnight, and I never quick charge. That 50% range of battery still lasts me about 24 hours. My Pixel 1 battery is in great shape because of this habit. My wife's, on the other hand, since she didn't do this - her battery on her old Pixel 1 is relatively shot.
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It's already pretty snappy for me, so I feel if I don't care about customizability it's probably not worth the effort for minimal reward.
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Sounds as if you already have made up your mind to me. I mean, that's how I feel, and I like using Google's services for the most part. I'm more a function over form person. While I don't want something downright fugly, I really don't care what things look like - only how they do what I want them to do. Yet again, "how they do what I want them to do" is very subjective. The Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ didn't do what my wife and I wanted it to do, but we were both spoiled on the Pixel 1 before that. We don't regret our choice to go back to Pixel via the 6 Pro. For others, the Samsung phones are what they need.
MarkAnthony121 said:
And second question, will the flash tool give me the option to clear both slots ?
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You don't want to "clear" both slots, you want to flash both slots. In answer to your question, I don't think you'll have a choice via the site (or offline flashing the full factory image). In other words, both slots are going to get flashed whether you like it or not. You would have to go to extra efforts to *not* flash both slots. Hence yet another reason why you don't have to worry about that aspect.
Google's official methods would never flash only one slot by default. That would be just plain idiotic of them.
Before you ask, the reason I recommend the site rather than offline flashing of the full factory image is:
It's more user-friendly.
It has solved problems when manually flashing the full factory image has not for some others with particular problems.
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Oh and third, is it ok to link my google account, (to get my contacts and such) as long as I'm not restoring any backups from it?
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Yes, absolutely, although in some cases I've recommended going completely fresh and not even doing that, at least before testing long enough to see if you have the issue. You certainly could go without putting your Google account in, etc, but I don't feel that's warranted at this point. The only time I think you should do that, in this case, is if you do it the other way (with your Google account), and you still have the same problem right away (without installing any additional apps).
Just remember don't install any additional apps to start with, long enough to be sure that the problem isn't happening. I know it's a painful process - I've done this before on several devices for different reasons. Usually, the cause of issues becomes evident but it's possible it won't be completely obvious.
FYI, just putting your Google account in will, I believe, possibly still automatically restore your phone's most basic settings but I could be wrong about that. You could always try it without your account at first, use the phone in it's limited state for long enough to know there's no problem, and only then put your Google account in.

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