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GPS built in?

So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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Wow, this from a Senior Member I hope all 199 post were not this wise.

nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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not again......

i know i know, but i ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to make it work. sadly, it probably isnt possible, but why not check and see if someone has found out a way to make it work?
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nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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It is right next to the 10 gig harddrive.

August Fools day

nstefanelli said:
i know i know, but i ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to make it work. sadly, it probably isnt possible, -Nstefanelli-
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i know i know, but you could search before you ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to search before take the easy way out. sadly, it probably isnt possible

nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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Yes you did read correctly.
The htc hermes does have a GPS
chip it's circuits, however
the chip on all release platforms have had the chip deliberately disabled in the following manor.
1.drivers removed from the roms
2. crucial pins left unconnected
3. a few support components left out
4. antenna pins and support connections for both an internal and external antenna left nonexistent .
It's very unfortunate as I spent the better part of a month looking between the thread here and on 4winmobile only to find that the best of the best hardware hackers had failed to come up with a resolve due to usually lack of tools required, components difficult at times to obtain, and the almost 98% chance of unrepairably damaging the main pcb or the surrounding components in which you would then be left with the preverbial brick of which there is no safty net or special bootloader to save you. thusly I gave up and finally just did what most get when they buy or get the hermes withco pilot. I bought a good bluetooth gps receiver and loaded software for it to be used by. in this case it was tom tom 6.
I feel for you in this one as it would have been nice if the hermes was like the artimas [ie: o2 orbit, t-mobile mda compact]
and had it built in. But alas the is no technical resolve that can be achieved as of now for this other then to go bluetooth external receiver.
*hehe chalk one up for the noobs referring to the senior vs new members to the board which I find funny as I may not post as much as others but I know more then what the rating suggests heheh*

my question is why would high paid asian techs leave some gps chip that would not be used
that is not business like at all
just like carriers leaving ot the front video camera, and still charing ridiculous prices for the unit !!!!!!!!

Artemis questions

Hi,
Primarily I apologize for my bad English.
I would buy a Artemis, there are reasons why I should not do this?
Some say it has a bad camera or GPS does not upgrade the position if you are walking.
I had an Alpine and was satisfied.
Thanks for your advice

paperino said:
Hi,
Primarily I apologize for my bad English.
I would buy a Artemis, there are reasons why I should not do this?
Some say it has a bad camera or GPS does not upgrade the position if you are walking.
I had an Alpine and was satisfied.
Thanks for your advice
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Yes, that's true.
Bad (very bad) camera and GPS not designed for walkers.
Apart these issues, it's amazing.
(or, at least, this is my opinion)

True the camera is bad but the GPR is OK - I use it with Memory-Map on foot and on bicycle and the results are OK. How accurate do you need the GPS to be?

the GPS is supposedly accurate within 3 meters... how true this is i dont know

jftilbury said:
[...] the GPR is OK - I use it with Memory-Map on foot and on bicycle and the results are OK. [...]
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Agree.
The GPS is ok and has a good reception.
With "not designed for walkers" I meant it doesn't work in SIRF mode, which would allow to enable some features specifically designed for walkers.
Still, it's a good GPS receiver.

Making the Excalibur into a functioning GPS

Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?

torontotytn said:
Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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I haven't heard of anybody doing this and I doubt it is possible. I believe it would require a hardware upgrade.

torontotytn said:
Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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Yeah, you'll have to purchase a GPS receiver to make the phone into a "GPS device".

Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?

Seems to doable...
I know that there are many portable bluetooth GPS modules that work with the Excalibur and 'lots of apps for maps routing too.
I´m just not sure about the "turn by turn" feature, but I guess it might be doable with the right GPS module/Software combo, you´ll just have to poke around... or wait 'till mid october, when I'll be back from Europe and will have mine working with a bluetooth GPS module too...
Anyways, I guess someone in the forum community might have it working...
Cheers.

Well, from what I´ve searched online, the bluetooth module prices start from about US$ 50, so it can be much cheaper than a whole GPS device, being only up to what you´ll settle for in terms of price and features...

torontotytn said:
Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?
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if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it

ryanh11 said:
if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it
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Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.

Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!

torontotytn said:
Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!
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I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.

The home screen plug in isn't WM6.1 Compatible, but I have the app on a speed dial. 2d/3d turn-by-turn, easy pairing, the subscription isn't essential. The maps take about half of the supplied 2GB card, rest is free for whatever else. Lots of refined goodies.
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2007/02/17/some-details-on-motonav-and-t805-and-t815/
http://www.google.com/products?q=Motonav+T815&btnG=Search+Products&scoring=p

There is a version of TomTom out there that along with FakeCursor does a pretty nice job. I have seen Sirf III BT GPS's for around $60 online too.
Of course the TT isn't legit so don't ask for links.
There was also a v5 of TomTom that would work on WM smartphone, but I think it had some trouble with the landscape screen. Usable, but not as pretty.

Rip Syntaxx said:
I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.
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I have a 4gb card in there right now - and it's pretty empty.
Thans for the heads up on this - I will look for the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS

This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into

Bupahs said:
This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into
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Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!

torontotytn said:
Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!
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1. If the maps are already on the phone (or, a card installed in the phone), no. Otherwise some plan is needed. Motonav and Live Search both work with the proxy plan, if you are on Tmo.
2. Pretty much, although the accuracy may vary in a few middle east countries from time to time, based on U.S. relations at the moment. At this point, it is pretty much accurate to about 20 feet anywhere in the world,. In America and Europe, it tends to be far more accurate than the map software!
3. The receiver just determines your current time, latitude, longitude, velocity and altitude, the rest of the work is done by the phone software.

Hey man thanks!
Is there an Reciever that you recommend that stands apart from the rest?
I will probably go and look for one today.

Clydeisthe**** said:
Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.
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Hey guys, I just bought a Q starz bt 890. really small receiver (3mm wide!)I found it for 50 bucks. works great. check it out at http://www.qstarz.com/Products/GPS Products/BT-Q890-F.htm look around and you'll find it cheaper.

I use the B-Speech GPS receiver and Route 66 (PM me on route 66) works perfectly. Of course you can also use Google Maps (but no turn by turn).
Yes its a lot cheaper to buy a GPS receiver then to buy a stand alone Nav unit, the B-Speech cost me about 50.00 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-NUVI-200-GPS-2009-MAPS-V10-AUTOMOTIVE-NAVIGATION_W0QQitemZ360127426051QQcmdZViewItem
i got on of those for around $110....id just do that...ever try to use navigation on a 2" non touch screen while driving?

VGA out/ IR Camera

Does anyone know where I could find a pin configuration chart for the display cable inside the uni?
I know its adventurous but I wouldnt mind making a monitor out!

joey7415963 said:
Does anyone know where I could find a pin configuration chart for the display cable inside the uni?
I know its adventurous but I wouldnt mind making a monitor out!
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Yes, i'm also things about that, but now don't have too much free time to play with it

Come on people does anyone know?
Or is this gonna be a long week with the multimeter and a few books!

SD to VGA adapter maybe??
I saw in one of the Windows mobile magazines that they make SD to VGA adapters. It mentioned that there was a microSD version soon to be released, and that there was a bluetooth product as well.

AllanonMage said:
I saw in one of the Windows mobile magazines that they make SD to VGA adapters. It mentioned that there was a microSD version soon to be released, and that there was a bluetooth product as well.
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If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.

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If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.
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Interest information, do you know more details about that

Wow, that sounds kewl, might have to email HTC.
The only info I could find on this is whats in the Wiki anyways
The touch-screen controller given shows the pin-outs which should tell us the touch-screen pin-config'.
I've given up on this anyway so I turned my camera into a nightvision camera really easy to do!

joey7415963 said:
Wow, that sounds kewl, might have to email HTC.
The only info I could find on this is whats in the Wiki anyways
The touch-screen controller given shows the pin-outs which should tell us the touch-screen pin-config'.
I've given up on this anyway so I turned my camera into a nightvision camera really easy to do!
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Share more details, I too was playing before with camera and IR leds

sorry this will be mega rushed just realised im still in my pjs and gotta be at work soon!
Basically you dissasemble to PDA as shown in the wiki, then take apart camera base, behind it there should be a coloured filter (IR filter) take it out and replace with two really dark things (like the begining of a negative) then put together and take pictures in the dark whilst pushing a button on a remote control i will make a proper how to do thingy when im home tonight!
Bye for now!

IR Camera
Right first of all I think I tried it with my Uni and couldn't suss how to get to the IR filter but I tried it on my Nokia and its working like a charm!
1: Take apart the phone,
2: Uncouple camera,
3: Using a knife prise the four corners of the circuit board off the base of the camera (make sure you only go about 1mm in MAX! Also make sure you remember which way round it goes ),
4: Unscrew the lenses off the front,
5: Punch out the IR filter, this should be the slightly coloured one usually red (or find a way to take it out properly if you wanna keep it but mine was glued on),
6: Find an old photo album and take the negatives, look for the first part where it is just pure black (no pictures) and cut two circles out of it to place where the IR filter was, (this will be your visable light filter),
7: Reassemble,
8: Go somewhere dark and use a remote control as a light source and take photos!

beast0898 said:
If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.
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yea i read it too...oh wait i think i remember where i read it....in the development n hacking section....they talked bout it...i think u can still buy those optional TV/VGA but the only problem is that u cant use the sd therefore u have to use the main memory which is not enough...

Tahmaseeb said:
yea i read it too...oh wait i think i remember where i read it....in the development n hacking section....they talked bout it...i think u can still buy those optional TV/VGA but the only problem is that u cant use the sd therefore u have to use the main memory which is not enough...
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Hmmm.... sounds interesting, I rekon it's gotta be expensive Oh well
thanks to everyone who has tried to help me I hope I've paid back with the
IR camera trick lol!

Google Maps[LEFT][/LEFT]

Ok I know it may be silly or everybody knows that....
Anyway as I was really frustrated with current Bing performance,
It was so sweet to discover that www.maps.google.com JUST works on IE... !

doministry said:
Ok I know it may be silly or everybody knows that....
Anyway as I was really frustrated with current Bing performance,
It was so sweet to discover that www.maps.google.com JUST works on IE... !
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Good point, but it doesn't show your actual position. Damn I really miss Garmin GPS software...

jaraya13 said:
Good point, but it doesn't show your actual position. Damn I really miss Garmin GPS software...
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Of course, but at least one can perform any search.