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Co-Pilot Installation

hi every1,
my 3 contract runs out next month and i am thinking about getting the MDA Compact III.
My question is about co-pilot that comes with the t-mobile UK bundle. I was wondering if was able to get hold of the installation cd's from somewhere ... can i install it on my empty memory card
are there any serial numbers or anything that i might need?
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just another question to add. anyone with the co-pilot bundle. i went to a t-mobile shop today to ask them about a similer question. worded differently tho lol. seem to have answered my question. the co-pilot bundle does come with original installation cds for you to re-install them on your mem card. ;-)
but the women said that the co-pilot bundle comes with an antenna that plugs into the back of the phone. now im wondering
1) is this really needed? bcoz i thought the GPS was in-built????
2) wot type of antenna would i need? and how much do they cost?
thanks,
Snoop

Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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thats a good point you know. maybe she said that it comes with attenna because it would help boost the signal. bcoz my friend has a navman pda and he uses an external attenna to do just that.
it be interesting to know to excat box contents of the phone and phone with copilot bundle. can anyone fill us in please
thanks,
snoop

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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Sounds interesting.
Maybe they include an RDS antenna to get live traffic updates??
Can anyone confirm this?

hi guys,
regarding this external antenna. please read below. found it on this website http://htcphonestore.com/review.asp?itemMDL=HTC_P3300
GPS Navigation
One of the best features of the Artemis is the integrated GPS. With a built in GPS Sirf-Star III chipset, navigation was seamless. The unit comes bundled with TomTom 6, and included in your purchase is the ability to download one free city-map. Additionally, there is an external antenna port on the back of the unit which enables you to achieve better satellite reception. More on the GPS capabilities in Part II.
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
thanks,
snoop

found this description about a Bluetooth GPS antenna?
http://www.yourkindamobile.co.uk/upgrades2_orange.asp?Phone=2036&Network=T-Mobile
Includes Co-Pilot GPS navigation which gives you spoken and on-screen turn instructions, satellite positioning, address-level street map, ETA and distance remaining, detour around traffic and 2D or 3D display with night mode. Bluetooth GPS antenna included.

snoop85 said:
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
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If you really think you need an external aerial for the GPS unit in your device (which I doubt to be honest) have a search for the part number 36H00352-00M it transpires that the same aerial was supplied for the I-Mate PDA-n, you can purchase one from http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=129590 (at least I can improve the reception on my PDA-n now I know that! and I have found a use for the external GPS aerial that was supplied with my Arte) - Mike

To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)

treblechance said:
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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wwwhoooo thanks treblechance. thanks for confirming, must mean the shop assisant meant that you can BUY one extra. like the one pointed out by mikealder. because i know a friend who has one of those navman pda's and he is using an external attenaa to boost the signal. and simply plugs in the back, similar place to what the shop assisstant showed me.
looks like i what need to buy the copilot bundle after all SAVING me a bundle of $$$ hehe
thanks everyone for the help.

If you have the hardware and only need the GPS software try using it first with the inbuilt GPS, don't go wasting money on the external GPS aerial, the receiver in the Artemis is very good without re-course to an external feed. If you have a car with Athermic coated glass you might experiance a signal drop but even so I would try it first and it should be fine with just the device on its own - Mike

ye good point mike. thats what some of my friends said. thanks

Manual
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it

snoop85 said:
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
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Hi,
Try - http://www.europe.htc.com/support/training.html

TomTom on the MDA Compact III? Anyone used one?
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx

mikolo said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
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hi,
i think they may be right. i tried getting co-pilot to work on my mda but wasnt having any of it. so i gave up in the end. i think the only way you can install it is using some kind of auto install file that is on the memory that is provided when you buy the bundle.
as for tom tom. i have managed to get that working just prefect. i tried it inside my house wasnt getting a very good signal. stepped outside...and hey presto 11 signals picked up. i havnt done full test of it i.e. driving from my house to another location. but it seemed to work fine when i did a small walk around my local area.
hope that helps.
regards,
snoop

i have a question about copilot's installation. Does anyone know where the license file is installed. I had copilot installed on one device and copied files onto another device thinking that would save me download time. Anyway now it keeps picking the licensing info from the previous device. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but that did not help. If someone could help me with resetting the licensing info so I can register the software with the new key. Thanks.

Innexpensive Bluetooth GPS

I tried searching for this, but unfortunately, GPS doesn't meet the requirement in word size and thus it kept returning no results. But list what bluetooth GPS you have and what it cost you. Also give a mini review of whether it was worth it or not. I'm trying to find a good (read: also CHEAP) one for myself. I'd rather have a phone with a built-in GPS but I already have a Tmobile Wing and I'm not willing to part with it, unless I find a GREAT deal on a kaiser or other GPS enabled GSM PPC AND I can get someone to buy my existing Wing. (Which might not be as hard as it sounds where I work.)
Thanks for any input you guys can provide.

BuyGPSNow and Semsons both offer a wide variety of GPS solutions (both hardware & software). As a general rule, pretty much any BT GPS using the Sirf III chipset will more than meet your needs -- this chipset does well with low signal strength (you can even get signal indoors in many cases), and it's easy on the battery. Most BT GPS receivers are made in Taiwan, and assuming the same chipset, are largely identical internally, with the only significant differences being the case & battery.

I haven't got one but the 'Keychain GPS Receiver' seems like a good idea - small and fairly cheap.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=3687&t_mode=des
Austin.

I just bought this for my 8525
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190171070107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

austinmitchell said:
I haven't got one but the 'Keychain GPS Receiver' seems like a good idea - small and fairly cheap.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=3687&t_mode=des
Austin.
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I think this one is a better value:
http://www.semsons.com/sysmblgpssii.html

I-Blue747
I got the I-Blue747 very good and cheap mouse:
http://www.transystem.com.tw/p-gps-iblue747.htm#
Greetings Pudl

Not revive an old thread, but what's the best paid GPS software? The best Freeware GPS software?

Bluetooth GPS: What should I search for?

Hey everyone.
I recently got a HTC Touch Dual, and I would like to get a bluetooth GPS (I get lost a lot on the road xD).
I was wondering what kind of specs I would need to look for.
- Number of channels
- Baterry Life-Time
- ...?
I can't spend much on this, and I've been looking at these items:
http://cgi.ebay.com/E-New-42-Channe...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://www.semsons.com/im5blgpsre32.html
Can anyone help me with some basic guidelines please?

I use a Holux M-1200 and I'm bery happy with it. It's nice and small too.

Honestly what is the point of an external receiver? If your phone does not support GPS independantly then you might as well spend another 40$ and get the entire GPS unit for the car.

stevenewjersey said:
Honestly what is the point of an external receiver? If your phone does not support GPS independantly then you might as well spend another 40$ and get the entire GPS unit for the car.
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maybe its $40 where you live ... but here it'll cost me at least $200!

I just got the freedom keychain gps reciever and l love it. I use Gps quite a bit and the accuracy on this is great. I love the fact that it is so tiny and attaches to my keys so I never even have to remember to bring it. I highly recommend this unit.

Try www.GPSPassion.com for further info. I recommend Qstarz BT-Q818 with 32 hours and auto on/off. It's called "51 channels", not live up to its name since there are only 24 operating sats around the Earth, but the reception quality is definitely one of the best in the market.
jvieira said:
Hey everyone.
I recently got a HTC Touch Dual, and I would like to get a bluetooth GPS (I get lost a lot on the road xD).
I was wondering what kind of specs I would need to look for.
- Number of channels
- Baterry Life-Time
- ...?
I can't spend much on this, and I've been looking at these items:
http://cgi.ebay.com/E-New-42-Channe...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://www.semsons.com/im5blgpsre32.html
Can anyone help me with some basic guidelines please?
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I bought this one, only 35 Euro all in, and it works perfect with my Magician, it is even faster than my Mio PNA

I just got a BT-359 off of ebay for $35. Works just fine everywhere except my office building. I do live in Phoenix so I've not tried it in a glass canyon yet tho.
I decided not to get a car gps for a few reasons.
1. i dont need to give anyone reason to bust my window
2. my tytn is much smaller if i want portable gps
3. im not bound to one software
3.5 much more customizable
4. bluetooth works with my laptop
5. $35 is much better than $100+

Making the Excalibur into a functioning GPS

Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?

torontotytn said:
Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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I haven't heard of anybody doing this and I doubt it is possible. I believe it would require a hardware upgrade.

torontotytn said:
Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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Yeah, you'll have to purchase a GPS receiver to make the phone into a "GPS device".

Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?

Seems to doable...
I know that there are many portable bluetooth GPS modules that work with the Excalibur and 'lots of apps for maps routing too.
I´m just not sure about the "turn by turn" feature, but I guess it might be doable with the right GPS module/Software combo, you´ll just have to poke around... or wait 'till mid october, when I'll be back from Europe and will have mine working with a bluetooth GPS module too...
Anyways, I guess someone in the forum community might have it working...
Cheers.

Well, from what I´ve searched online, the bluetooth module prices start from about US$ 50, so it can be much cheaper than a whole GPS device, being only up to what you´ll settle for in terms of price and features...

torontotytn said:
Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?
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if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it

ryanh11 said:
if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it
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Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.

Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!

torontotytn said:
Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!
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I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.

The home screen plug in isn't WM6.1 Compatible, but I have the app on a speed dial. 2d/3d turn-by-turn, easy pairing, the subscription isn't essential. The maps take about half of the supplied 2GB card, rest is free for whatever else. Lots of refined goodies.
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2007/02/17/some-details-on-motonav-and-t805-and-t815/
http://www.google.com/products?q=Motonav+T815&btnG=Search+Products&scoring=p

There is a version of TomTom out there that along with FakeCursor does a pretty nice job. I have seen Sirf III BT GPS's for around $60 online too.
Of course the TT isn't legit so don't ask for links.
There was also a v5 of TomTom that would work on WM smartphone, but I think it had some trouble with the landscape screen. Usable, but not as pretty.

Rip Syntaxx said:
I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.
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I have a 4gb card in there right now - and it's pretty empty.
Thans for the heads up on this - I will look for the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS

This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into

Bupahs said:
This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into
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Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!

torontotytn said:
Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!
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1. If the maps are already on the phone (or, a card installed in the phone), no. Otherwise some plan is needed. Motonav and Live Search both work with the proxy plan, if you are on Tmo.
2. Pretty much, although the accuracy may vary in a few middle east countries from time to time, based on U.S. relations at the moment. At this point, it is pretty much accurate to about 20 feet anywhere in the world,. In America and Europe, it tends to be far more accurate than the map software!
3. The receiver just determines your current time, latitude, longitude, velocity and altitude, the rest of the work is done by the phone software.

Hey man thanks!
Is there an Reciever that you recommend that stands apart from the rest?
I will probably go and look for one today.

Clydeisthe**** said:
Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.
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Hey guys, I just bought a Q starz bt 890. really small receiver (3mm wide!)I found it for 50 bucks. works great. check it out at http://www.qstarz.com/Products/GPS Products/BT-Q890-F.htm look around and you'll find it cheaper.

I use the B-Speech GPS receiver and Route 66 (PM me on route 66) works perfectly. Of course you can also use Google Maps (but no turn by turn).
Yes its a lot cheaper to buy a GPS receiver then to buy a stand alone Nav unit, the B-Speech cost me about 50.00 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-NUVI-200-GPS-2009-MAPS-V10-AUTOMOTIVE-NAVIGATION_W0QQitemZ360127426051QQcmdZViewItem
i got on of those for around $110....id just do that...ever try to use navigation on a 2" non touch screen while driving?

[Q] Magnetic Sensor on Pro2

Hi Guys,
I'm running Android on my Touch Pro2 (thanks for the info on installing this by the way!) and I've installed Google Sky Map.
The program uses the accelerometer ok however it does not seems to orientate to the poles correctly.
I'm thinking this is because the phone either doesn't have a magnetic sensor or doesn't have it enabled.
So my question is does anyone know if the TP2 has a magnetic sensor that can be enabled for programs such as this, and do you know how to enable it in Android?
Thanks for any suggestions!

Pretty sure it doesn't have it. This is your biggest problem with Android? You can't expect it to work like a native Android device. Surprised Sky Maps even worked at all TBH...

The TP2 does not have the magnetic sensor/compass.

arrrghhh said:
Pretty sure it doesn't have it. This is your biggest problem with Android? You can't expect it to work like a native Android device. Surprised Sky Maps even worked at all TBH...
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Uh, why so harsh?
For once it didn't bash the port features, though he was lazy as hell if could not look up the Rhodium specs.
Flame him for that

kosmarnik said:
Uh, why so harsh?
For once it didn't bash the port features, though he was lazy as hell if could not look up the Rhodium specs.
Flame him for that
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Meh, I didn't think it was harsh. Could've done much worse, trust me

nope doesnt have magnetic sensor as far as i kno, it has gps though, does skymaps not use gps for compass and location? see ders your problem. Gps doesnt work in xdandroid yet

Jandyman said:
nope doesnt have magnetic sensor as far as i kno, it has gps though, does skymaps not use gps for compass and location? see ders your problem. Gps doesnt work in xdandroid yet
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What the hell are you talking about, GPS has worked for a while now...