Froyo lockups - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

Hi all, am trying out loads of different builds but I'm finding a common theme..... Lockups
Have tried both the latest 2.6.25 and 2.6.32 with both panel 2 and 3 and since my battery won't last a day using .32 (have an extended battery on order) I'm trying to use .25
The lockups are completely random not just when waking but the LEDs stop flashing and the phone won't react, the buttons do still light up though....
Erm, what else? Oh am running both sys and data from NAND.
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Hi
been there... Im kinda newbie bout this but something that really helped me was to use l1qu1d's latest .25 nbh with warbyte's donut, try using atools to modify l1qu1ds nbh to ur needs (use the search tool in the forum to seek it, includes a tutorial!), use sys on nand and data on ext2 (or ext3), and THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ALL!! always keep a fresh /data backup. I do it before and after any mayor mod to my sys, cause i can assure you sooner or later u WILL have data corruption! but dont worry normally the solution is as simple as: reboot/d-pad/restore....
If you dont like donut (In my case i ADORE donut ) maybe you can give it a shot to this brand new scoot's release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813382
PD try not to oc your cpu too much! drains the batt quicker and turns sys unstable! try asking n2rjt's bout batt problems in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269

albertorodast2007 said:
been there... Im kinda newbie bout this but something that really helped me was to use l1qu1d's latest .25 nbh with warbyte's donut, try using atools to modify l1qu1ds nbh to ur needs (use the search tool in the forum to seek it, includes a tutorial!), use sys on nand and data on ext2 (or ext3), and THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ALL!! always keep a fresh /data backup. I do it before and after any mayor mod to my sys, cause i can assure you sooner or later u WILL have data corruption! but dont worry normally the solution is as simple as: reboot/d-pad/restore....
If you dont like donut (In my case i ADORE donut ) maybe you can give it a shot to this brand new scoot's release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813382
PD try not to oc your cpu too much! drains the batt quicker and turns sys unstable! try asking n2rjt's bout batt problems in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
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I used to overclock to 520, but now 450 seems as fast and is more stable.
And, uses much less battery. Android keeps data connected at all times. Our radio firmware was designed for WinMo, where the data is disconnected when idle. In a real Android phone, the radio firmware stays connected but still can go idle and use less battery. The best we can do is go to 2G when idle. I use the "Toggle 2G" app for that, and my battery lasts a long time.

Well, tried Fat Free Froyo again and it locked up on charge over night takng Data with it again.
Have installed Warbyte Donut onto ext so here goes.
I haven't overclocked my last few installs incase it was that and it made no difference.... Was only overclocking to 450 anyway....
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Using Warbyte at the mo, seems nice and to be honest not that much different to Froyo so could get used to it
Do you use Adobe PDF viewer, I used to install it from the market place but using this rom I can't see it anywhere :/
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Just answered my own question, needs 2.1 or above

thebaldconvict said:
Using Warbyte at the mo, seems nice and to be honest not that much different to Froyo so could get used to it
Do you use Adobe PDF viewer, I used to install it from the market place but using this rom I can't see it anywhere :/
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Just answered my own question, needs 2.1 or above
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What I use for PDF's (actually works great with ms office docs too!) is OfficeSuite Pro 3.0 works great on donut and opens even docs with hyperlinks and e-sheets with formulas and graphs
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Slow Android 2.1

I've been experimenting with the Sense 2.1 VGA build of XDAndroid and after compiling it and copying it over I see that Android itself runs very sluggishly on my RAPH110.
Im using a 4GB HC Class 4 card.
Are there any ways that I can actually speed this thing up?
Ive used ATK and thats about it. Im out of ideas here.
Also: 1) Is there anyway to fix the backlight issue when coming out of sleep mode? (It stays at minimum brightness)
2) Is there anyway to transfer winmo contacts to XD?
howeasy said:
I've been experimenting with the Sense 2.1 VGA build of XDAndroid and after compiling it and copying it over I see that Android itself runs very sluggishly on my RAPH110.
Im using a 4GB HC Class 4 card.
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AFAIK There's no XDAndroid build with HTC Sense in it. There's this but it's not part of the XDAndroid project, has fewer users and is (in my experience) updated less frequently. Click the banner in my sig to go to the XDAndroid thread - there's a new Eclair 2.1 build out which I'm yet to try. If that's slow, try the 2.0.1 build, which has none of the backlight issues you've mentioned. It shouldn't be slow, but if it is to you then it's just because you're used to Windows Mobile running very quickly on the device, and there's no way to get Android going that smoothly just yet.
You could try overclocking but it should be pretty speedy already. Is this your first build of Android? Have you deleted data.img and let it remake it. Try formatting your sd card.
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AFAIK There's no XDAndroid build with HTC Sense in it. There's this but it's not part of the XDAndroid project, has fewer users and is (in my experience) updated less frequently. Click the banner in my sig to go to the XDAndroid thread - there's a new Eclair 2.1 build out which I'm yet to try. If that's slow, try the 2.0.1 build, which has none of the backlight issues you've mentioned. It shouldn't be slow, but if it is to you then it's just because you're used to Windows Mobile running very quickly on the device, and there's no way to get Android going that smoothly just yet.
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That is indeed the build i'm currently using.
The official XDAndroid build of 2.1 would give me the endless fireworks screen even and updated zImage.
If there's a version that will work on my Fuze then please link me to it as I have been unable to track it down.
But regardless, I've been working on trying to get it to run faster, Ive had moderate luck using ATK but thats about it.
Im baffled as to why its running this slow.
Also, using the 2.0.1 build caused the phone not to send SMS messages, hence the reason I came looking for a new build and came across the Sense one.
Did you use the Fuze startup text instead of Raphael? Did you leave it long enough? On first boot my Raph100 takes about five minutes to start, but it's only about one minute after that.
Here's proof (if you want it) that it's normal for it to take ages to load on first boot.
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Did you use the Fuze startup text instead of Raphael? Did you leave it long enough? On first boot my Raph100 takes about five minutes to start, but it's only about one minute after that.
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Indeed I did. It simply played the Nexus one boot animation for a while, froze for around 5 seconds, and then went back and played the nexus one animation from the beginning.
The sense build im using works in all aspects other than the fact I would prefer the normal Android layout, I want it to run smoothly, and I want a more constantly updated version.
I used the Fuze startup text with and without the overclocking script thrown in.
I'd be more than willing to go at it again if its worth the shot.
I really recommend having another go: XDAndroid is exactly what you're looking for with regards to the lack of Sense and the frequent updates. There's no hardware-related reason why it shouldn't work on your Fuze, so delete everything from the build that's already on there, get the right startup.txt and give it a go
Thanks for the positive reinforcement!
If you could possibly directly link me to the 2.1 build you'd personally recommend that would be appreciated.
Ive been trying a build for the RAPH800 that was linked to in your sig and its giving me to the same problem I described earlier.
I have the RAPH110, as you know, but the RAPH800 build was the closest thing I could track down.
Eh? Don't use the 800 unless your phone is CDMA. Just download the 2.1 bundle for the normal Raphael, the link is just under the changelog. I'm giving it a go right now and I'm currently waiting for it to boot, I'll tell you if I have any problems.
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Eh? Don't use the 800 unless your phone is CDMA. Just download the 2.1 bundle for the normal Raphael, the link is just under the changelog. I'm giving it a go right now and I'm currently waiting for it to boot, I'll tell you if I have any problems.
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Oopsy! I had a hard time tracking that down.
Im using the one labeled "03.05.10 | 2.1 builds". Is that correct?
It also says it already has the lastest zImage that should work so do I need to go update that?
I swear, if there was a super mega +rep button i'd press it.
You're what support forums are all about <3
(3:42PM: Just calibrated touch screen)
Yep, that's the one I'm trying. I've had some experience with the 2.0.1 but I've never actually used this build before, so it's possible there's something missing that I don't know about.
Haha thanks, although there are much nicer and more knowledgeable people on here than me
Well you're the one putting forth the effort to help a guy in need, so I truly do appreciate it.
I'm still getting the constant Nexus one boot animation sadly enough.
Maybe I'll go test out the 2.0.1 build and see if I can get that one to work, but like I said earlier, I had SMS issues with that one.
EDIT: I was able to get the 2.0.1 build working with SMS after zImage and etc..
Going to test sound and whatnot now and come back with another edit to verify.
I would still like the 2.1 build though but this might have to suffice.
Okay, I've just been messing with the 2.1 build and couldn't get it working either. I checked my startup.txt and noticed that set mtype was on the same line as set ram size, so I'm deleting my data.img and trying again.
Edit: It worked! No more boot animation
ben_duder said:
Okay, I've just been messing with the 2.1 build and couldn't get it working either. I checked my startup.txt and noticed that set mtype was on the same line as set ram size, so I'm deleting my data.img and trying again.
Edit: It worked! No more boot animation
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AWESOME!
Mind uploading whatever it is you did and tell me what I have to do to get the same result?
Sorry, Im still pretty new to this whole thing.
I won't upload it, but just check your startup.txt and there should be two lines of text that look like they should be separated. Press return just before the second, save it and delete your data.img file. Then run HaRET again and it should work fine.
You have to try this build - it's brilliant.
Well I suppose I'll have to give that a shot.
I found and edited the lines and also threw in the overclocking script.
After deleting the data.img Im giving it one last shot now.
If that doesnt seem to work then I'll just deal with the 2.0.1 build until I find a way to get this to work.
EDIT: anddddd, no such luck.
Guess I'm left to stick with 2.0.1 for now, it was running pretty fast as well.
So if anyone reading this gets 2.1 working please feel free to post.
Is there a way to get Android on the phone itself rather than SD? I'd love to ditch Winmo and save some battery life here.
Shame... I can't understand how it's not working now. All I did was edit the startup.txt, delete my data.img and try again, then wait for ages while everything loaded. If you're not sure if you've edited your startup right you can try using the one that works for you with 2.0.1.
As for not having to use the SD, that would require NAND flashing, which has some way to go before we can use it on our Touch Pros to replace Windows Mobile. There's a thread about it here. There are dual-booting and light WM ROMs designed for XDAndroid users, however.
In case you don't believe me
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Did you happen to update the zImage or anything or did you just copy and paste and throw in the startup?

[Q] Would you mind helping a Android noob?

Ok,I'm new to Android, fresh out of Windows Mobile and might not know what I'm talking about, so... here we go,
I'm looking for my dream ROM, and kernel combination
Is there a ROM out there that has:
Delicious Froyo
4G Enabled
Can use Bluetooth controllers - (Wiimote, MSI BGP 100) [I guess that means it'd have to be Senseless?]
Retains its HDMI out functionality
Uncapped FPS
Over 2 multi touch points
Stability - Doesn't crash often
Decent Battery Life - (More than 5 Hours)
Swype Keyboard
802.11N Wireless Support Enabled
Overclocking support would be nice, but probably not necessary
I'm currently running Fresh Rom, but its starting to seriously lag after a few weeks of use, I guess its because of all the apps and widget mods I installed. And stupid Sense keeps starting up when I start my phone, even though launcher pro is my default home.
So I'm ready to flash another rom to have a clean start, now that I kinda know what I want.
There isn't a ROM with all of that
Looks to me like most (if not all) of the things you want to do can be done on Fresh. If it's lagging, wipe the caches using Amon and see if that speeds things up. I ran Fresh for a long while with no issues. For the past 3 days, I've been trying out the latest Baked Snack rom, and it's very good, too. The only thing I'm not sure about is the multi-touch feature because I haven't come across the need for it yet. I recommend you do the same thing I'm doing and everyone else does: Download them, flash them, keep them for a few days, and then try another rom. You'll be able to eliminate the ones you don't care for and then narrow down your choices. Do a search for multi-touch and see which roms have fixes for it, and try those out first.
or at least ava froyo v7, thats got everything working for me and use a kingsxkernel
I believe most of those are functional on most of the ROMs now. As far as swype keyboard, I think calkulins ROM (evio2) has that natively, or there's a new ROM someone else was working on that I think had swype listed, it was called echo5 ROM, I think. It's not on the first page, it was on the 2nd page last time I saw it.
The fps, overclocking, and >2pt multitouch are all functions of the kernel, I believe. And the 2 main kernel devs (kingx, and netarchy) support those functions in their kernels, which will flash on most any custom ROM
(I'm fairly new, from winmo, too. I was reluctant and apprehensive for awhile, but really starting to like Android, not to mention most the great devs from winmo are drifting to Android, or already have. Xda has made the transition that much easier)
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Like stated, any Rom can be anything. You can flash almost any kernel with any ROM..You can start with the stock ROM and flash what you want to get what you want...very customizable compared to WinMo.
That being said, I'm running Calkulin's EViO and love it. I can get almost 10th hours with heavy, heavy usage. With multitouch visualizer from the market, I can see 4 touch points. The phone is overlooked and fast as veal...never laggy. 4G works just fine. Lastly, the latest version has sense as an add-on, so no worries about it starting.
And, I have swype as an .apk if u want it.
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Thanks for the quick replies peoples, I went and wiped both cache, and the dalvik cache... even though I have no idea what the dalvik is, I'm using Anon Ra btw.
Calkulens Rom and a kings kernel sound like what I'm looking for, but what about the Bluetooth I know that sense based roms have corrupted Bluetooth settings, so no gamepad, are calkulins roms senseless? And work with wiimotes?
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VaelPak is the greatest. Just doesn't support bluetooth controllers but may be in an update soon
Swyped from my VaelPaked Evo 4G
Um no you can't flash kernels on most roms. They are either for sense roms or asop (senseless roms..cm6) you have to read the kernel thread... and swype you can install on any rom just search and you will find out the apk. For it. 4g doesn't work on cm6 so that's out the question then...
Most kernels are set to 1.19 to 1.22 top overclock.. setcpu is a paid app to over/underclock.. battery life there are a lot of things that causes bad battery. Bad reception, screen brightness, a app that keeps your phone awake, the settings of your CPU...etc...
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awenthol said:
Like stated, any Rom can be anything. You can flash almost any kernel with any ROM..You can start with the stock ROM and flash what you want to get what you want...very customizable compared to WinMo.
That being said, I'm running Calkulin's EViO and love it. I can get almost 10th hours with heavy, heavy usage. With multitouch visualizer from the market, I can see 4 touch points. The phone is overlooked and fast as veal...never laggy. 4G works just fine. Lastly, the latest version has sense as an add-on, so no worries about it starting.
And, I have swype as an .apk if u want it.
10hrs of heavy use? Please explain heavy heavy use because I get 4 tops even with the battery trick.. btw I use a wall charger not the phone. I have tried about every rom including yours and what I call heavy heavy usage is non-stop on phone. I can be on here on full battery, txt and do research on phone and get only 4 tops. Even with underclock.. you use wifi during heavy usage? Stock battery?
Just don't believe 10 hours heavy usage...
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So that combination of Calkulin's Rom and King's kernel will not work?
And does Overclocking seriously affect battery life?
ThaDSman said:
So that combination of Calkulin's Rom and King's kernel will not work?
And does Overclocking seriously affect battery life?
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When you overclock your CPU is running faster than normal which in turn needs more juice... kind of goes hand in hand...
Yeah that should be fine. If I'm correct its a sense rom. When you look at a kernel you usually read what it has implemented and what your looking for in a kernel. They tell you which one its made for. Just was letting you know..
Also always do a nand backup in case of loops or anything goes wrong..
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Which Rom is the most STABLE Sense HD Rom

Hey I wanted to ask the regular flashoholics that which sense hd Rom is the moat stable for daily use ....
The emphasis is on stability . That is running day to day smoothly without glitches and without requiring resets and the basics of phone being rock solid . That is phone call , sms and alarms....I can live with issues like no 720p recording .....
Thank you in advance
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Hi
RCmixHD V0.14of is absolutely superb. Its fast, stable, silky smooth, good battery. However, I did change the kernel from the one that comes with the ROM. The ROM comes with ziggies kernel, but I flashed Richard Trips very excellent V5e_1113mhz no audiomod svs kernel. It is a great kernel and integrates well with this HD ROM. I use setCPU also but without profiles. I just set it to minimum 245mhz and 1113mhz max using the smartass governor. All this fits together very well and my phone has no problems at all. Current widget shows between 2 and 6 milliamps when on standby.
I also have an app that alows to turn the screen off immediately with the touch of an icon. This saves a lot of battery time waiting for the screen to timeout.
Sorry, I have rambled on a bit!
btw. there are 2 versions of this ROM. The apps to SD version (my version) and the data to SD version which is version 0.14b (mine is v0.14of). Make sure you use the of version as even the developer Robocik says this is the most stable and fast version. Read throught the ROM's thread on XDA before taking the plunge. Good luck.
carlos67 said:
Hi
RCmixHD V0.14of is absolutely superb. Its fast, stable, silky smooth, good battery. However, I did change the kernel from the one that comes with the ROM. The ROM comes with ziggies kernel, but I flashed Richard Trips very excellent V5e_1113mhz no audiomod svs kernel. It is a great kernel and integrates well with this HD ROM. I use setCPU also but without profiles. I just set it to minimum 245mhz and 1113mhz max using the smartass governor. All this fits together very well and my phone has no problems at all. Current widget shows between 2 and 6 milliamps when on standby.
I also have an app that alows to turn the screen off immediately with the touch of an icon. This saves a lot of battery time waiting for the screen to timeout.
Sorry, I have rambled on a bit!
btw. there are 2 versions of this ROM. The apps to SD version (my version) and the data to SD version which is version 0.14b (mine is v0.14of). Make sure you use the of version as even the developer Robocik says this is the most stable and fast version. Read throught the ROM's thread on XDA before taking the plunge. Good luck.
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Thanks a lot for the generous lengthy reply I was actually looking for a complete breakdown of the Rom with analysis rather than just a short answer .... so thank you very much . I'm on leeDroid 2.3b a2sd version and I am gonna nandroid backup it now and try the Rom which you mentioned
Cheers mate ....
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Make sure you wipe everything first including the dalvik cache. To install this ROM you first need to create an ext partition on your SD card. I used a 1GB Ext2 partition created with partition wizard home (free) edition. After you have done this make sure you set both (fat32 and ext2) to primary partition types, not logical. Otherwise you will get an error when trying to flash the ROM. To do this simply right click on the partition in P/magic and select "make primary"
Also, make sure you have debugging enabled on the phone and connect it to the PC with usb lead in charge only mode. This way there's no risk of power failure whilst flashing.
After flashing, it will take a while to boot-up. Just be patient and let it do its thing. Like I said read through Robociks thread first. I did and had no probs.
One other thing, Robocik is about to release an updated version v0.15 in next day or 2 so you may want to wait for this. However v0.14OF is awesome.

[Q] Best ROM for my needs?

Lets start by saying I've only rooted two phones before, ever... So I'm not a genius with this stuff. I am tech savy however, the one that everyone comes to with a computer problem or question so it shouldnt be that difficult.
This is anything and everything I need:
N64oid and FPSE to run at full speed without any stuttering in audio or video
Bluetooth to work fully (along with using a ps3 controller and using wii controllers)
GPS to work fully (I use my phone almost on a daily basis for deliveries)
Disable the track pad completely
Overclocking (pretty much a given with the emulator thing...)
I'm thinking that those are really the only couple main problems I've heard of with certain roms, somethings work some dont etc etc...
I've been looking at this thread quite a bit, downloading everything I need and organizing it in folders when the time comes. I've also heard dont root with visionary because there is a high brick rate, read also via sticky in forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107911
My main question is this the guide I should be using? Or if you suggest CM7 or Glite or whatever else... I am a very light user when it comes to pickiness. I have about 20 apps i use on a daily basis and that it, I customize the desktop picture some ringtones and use android launcher pro. Thats honestly it.
not a single response?
Ive used g-lite from virtuousrom for a while. it does everything i want and has lots of ram free for that kind of use. expect nothing fancy since its more or less a vanilla rom
Id recommend Go launcher instead of the stock launcher btw =)
Ya I was thinking glite because of its minimilistic type. Ok well thank you and ill try the other launcher out
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G-Lite is a very fast ROM. The kernel supplied will only allow for overclocking to 1 GHz, but there is an option to install and use an alternative kernel with more overclocking possibilities. Haven't tried that yet. My experience with the standard kernel is a seriously FAST ROM that does everything smooth even when underclocked - it has by far the best battery time among all the ROMs I have used.
With regards to deactivating the trackpad completely, you will maybe have to find a third-party app or edit the keymapping files yourself.
I used unity kernel v9 with glite. It allows you to go up to 2 ghz.
As far as i know, the glite kernel allows you to do the same, but by default only goes up to 1 ghz when not using oc software. You could on the other hand edit config files for their oc daemon. Unityrom goes up to 1.2 ghz, something my phone was unable of so i had to edit those files in order to make it run without crashing.
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I used unity kernel v9 with glite. It allows you to go up to 2 ghz.
As far as i know, the glite kernel allows you to do the same, but by default only goes up to 1 ghz when not using oc software. You could on the other hand edit config files for their oc daemon. Unityrom goes up to 1.2 ghz, something my phone was unable of so i had to edit those files in order to make it run without crashing.
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Wait, you use Unity with the most recent release of G-Lite? 2.0.1? I thought that was for sense roms only?? Does everything work?
It worked fine for me. I dont mind messing arround with my phone. perhaps i was lucky.
I trided their ICS rom for a while and used ocuvbeat to overclock up to 1.5 ghz by some voltage tweaks. Not sure if it works with GB glite. If it does, USE IT!
Btw, gettin åäö (scandinavian letters) to work is a major pita. I did it the dirty way by "stealing" the keychar and keymap folders from their unity rom. Keep in mind that typing them on the hw keyboard will make em uppercase. Not sure how to fix that.
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You know, it's easier for me to write in Chinese characters than for you Scandinavians and your special characters. You poor fellows!
My personal choice is MIUI enhanced with bulletproof addon pack from tun4f1sh.

[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
demkantor said:
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
demkantor said:
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
tarroyo said:
It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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