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I have been scanning hundreds of XDA pages for about an hour now and I'm totaly sick of it, I'm not a person who would normaly start a thread for something like this but I don't know anymore.
I'm currently on HTC's official 1.93 ROM, its not very bad but I think my Diamond deserves better, so I want a custom ROM. My problem? There seem to be hundreds of different ones, what one is best for me?
My main goal is a significant speed bump, I like the overal functionality, it just isn't very fast.
I'd like to maintain the official looks as much as possible but get the best possible speed boost, what's best for me? I don't care about language realy, as long as its english or dutch. English prefered.
To be fair, i hope you realize that after this post you will probably have lots of people moaning at you about doing your own research etc etc
PM me and i will discuss this with you!
OK so its a little frustrating to get the info you need fast, i understand.
read the flashing tutorial
get unsigned hard SPL and install
pick ROM, any rom will do. i recommend Panosha, Swiftblade, or Duttys. These guys ARE the most experience chefs! BAR NONE
then just try them out.
Yes you will have re-flash & then re-flash again & again until you find the best ROM.
This is the only way IMHO to answer your own question.
and this is what EVERYONE else does or is doing!
So, join the club & welcome aboard.
be warned though it is very addictive!!!!
The whole flashing process is not an issue, I'm tech savy enough to figure that out, especially if its as well documented as it is on on here. My problem is, I don't have the time (and to be honest, nor do I have the will) to get realy deep into this.
I want my phone to keep its stock looks and stock functionality, but it has to be a lot faster. After that, I'm out of here a hell of a lot faster than I came in.
All I need is for someone to tell me what rom suits the needs I just described the best.
I have the same problem. Also none of these roms seem to work like it should. They have a lot of bugs.
if its about being fats and stick near to the original i would suggest AZTOR fitting your needs
So you are here, we have to deliver to you, and you go again, if I read that right??
kikakeule said:
if its about being fats and stick near to the original i would suggest AZTOR fitting your needs
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fats = Fast. I agree - AZTOR is an excellent choice for this guys needs. Fast and Original.
Thom4s said:
I have the same problem. Also none of these roms seem to work like it should. They have a lot of bugs.
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"Lots of Bugs". That is a generalisation and is plain wrong. Do your research an you will find several ROMs that are bug free.
The best way to get bugs is to load a brand new ROM in the initial excitement after it has been released. Cool your heels for a few days after release and then download the revised versions. The main ROM developers all tend to have some excellent, stable bug free versions floating around.
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So you are here, we have to deliver to you, and you go again, if I read that right??
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Yes, sir, you definetly read that right. Opposed to some people around here customising my phone is not my hobby, its kind of a must. I did NOT my buy my phone to mess around with it, I bought my phone to use it on business trips and such and keep my agenda etc etc, in other words, for its functionality. I am a way too busy man nowadays to involve myself in things like this.
So yes, I just updated to the recommended ROM, and it works perfectly. It's a noticable speed bump, as I requested. Thanks a lot for the great help!
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Yes, sir, you definetly read that right. Opposed to some people around here customising my phone is not my hobby, its kind of a must. I did NOT my buy my phone to mess around with it, I bought my phone to use it on business trips and such and keep my agenda etc etc, in other words, for its functionality. I am a way too busy man nowadays to involve myself in things like this.
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Well here is a suggestion. Seeing that you are way too busy...
How about you PAY someone to do this for you? Just put together a list of what you are after and offer to paypal someone some amount, say $20-$50 to match you with a ROM and a set of apps to meet your needs. That way you save your precious time and someone else gets a reward for their efforts to help you. Win all around.
Well you guys seem to be very busy people and need your fun for important stuff!
If you want a rom that isnt buggy ( I havent found one bug thou ) and thats stable why not just keep it to the original rom. It might be a bit slower but atleast you have a working phone!
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Well here is a suggestion. Seeing that you are way too busy...
How about you PAY someone to do this for you? Just put together a list of what you are after and offer to paypal someone some amount, say $20-$50 to match you with a ROM and a set of apps to meet your needs. That way you save your precious time and someone else gets a reward for their efforts to help you. Win all around.
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Could you define the purpose of a community for me one more time please? Sorry, I forgot.
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Could you define the purpose of a community for me one more time please? Sorry, I forgot.
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Basically what that means is, people who have the ability to cook do so for free and we all get to try what they make and and tell them bugs, which they fix.
Someone like yourself, who is pushed for time for whatever reason, and cannot look about and find the things they want from a rom can request a custom built rom, but as you can expect, since it is custom, and you will be the only one with the rom a "donation" is required for the cooks time.
If you dont want to pay, grab one of the roms available from here and do what everyone else does, try a few roms, then pic your fav, and stay with that brand.
I personally like to try all roms, but i keep going back to SwiftBL, if for instance i decide i want a custom rom i would PM SwiftBlade and offer him $30-$50 and detail my needs.
Hope this helps
bennec83 said:
Basically what that means is, people who have the ability to cook do so for free and we all get to try what they make and and tell them bugs, which they fix.
Someone like yourself, who is pushed for time for whatever reason, and cannot look about and find the things they want from a rom can request a custom built rom, but as you can expect, since it is custom, and you will be the only one with the rom a "donation" is required for the cooks time.
If you dont want to pay, grab one of the roms available from here and do what everyone else does, try a few roms, then pic your fav, and stay with that brand.
I personally like to try all roms, but i keep going back to SwiftBL, if for instance i decide i want a custom rom i would PM SwiftBlade and offer him $30-$50 and detail my needs.
Hope this helps
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Bennec, haha, I do actualy know what a community is Apparently you didn't see the sarcasm in it
Well thanks for the reply, but I wasn't requesting a custom made rom especially for me, I'm asking what stock one is best for me. And I got my answer.
i'd recommend Dutty's rom over Panosha
Addicteddddd said:
i'd recommend Dutty's rom over Panosha
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i must say that duttys rom does all i need...and more
With 'a lot of bugs' I mean that all of the roms I tried have some sort of irritating bug that floats up almost immidiately, like makes me think whether they even test their stuff.
The alarm plainly doesn't work. Or the browser exits/crashes when going into landscape. Or it simply crashes a lot.
Please, don't understand me wrong, I respect the effort and it's ME downloading those custom roms so it's me who's looking for trouble I just like having the latest version of software, all my devices or always up to date and I'm frustrated that htc itself doesn't release enough updates.
What I want is a rom that is simply standard but has the latest version of official htc apps. Maybe some registry tweaks for speed. But stability and no bugs is very important.
I'll try aztor but if that doesn't work out I'm going back to latest stock rom and just upgrade opera
Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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Not really a question? I see two.
You should definitely see a speed increase on CM6 related mods. At least the one's presented here on this site are blazing fast.
Which ROM do you have? Do you have dumfuq's Kernel?
Download SetCPU here located on the site in-case you don't have it and let it configure your speed and how much you can overclock. Also, any app that kills tasks will greatly increase your speed.
To answer the other, I don't see why lights wouldn't be fixed in the future.
lol, not really a question per se, but how much droid would an android droid if an android could droid droids?
Hayzie said:
lol, not really a question per se, but how much droid would an android droid if an android could droid droids?
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37... point 2
I highly doubt a task killer would do you any good if you're looking for speed increases, if you're unhappy with the way your device is performing and think you can get a better deal by returning to stock then by all means do so.
I'd imagine the keyboard indicator lights are going to be fixed in the future but there are other issues that are taking priority over the lights such as BT functionality, Market issues, etc.
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37... point 2
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That's... wow!
Android, more like Steroid.
Hayzie said:
That's... wow!
Android, more like Steroid.
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wow.. -_______________________- also questions belong in Q&A you know where people go fro questions an answers, not in development
i know what you mean by the speed. I too wasnt happy with the initial cm6 release or myfroyo6 and went back to stock cuz it was faster. couple weeks later when there was a re-release of cm6, i re-rooted and flashed it as well as dumfuq's oc kernal. cm6 and any other rom really doesnt run faster that stock, but flash that kernal and it will be WAY faster than stock. Stock and normal cm6 only ran like 1.5 mflpos but with the 844 oc kernal i get >9 mflops. 844 is a bit unstable and may not reboot properly the first time (or second lol), but i use it daily and am very happy. 806 is very stable and you still get good performance.
The problem is....THe SLide is S0 Fass ThAt It bEe BLaZiN ThRu em r0mz, s0 iTs Be kILLin BLowin ya's mInds.
I agree about froyo. None of them are any faster than stock. Yes froyo is faster according to linpack and quadrant.
The fastest and smoothest Rom that has been released is aria2slide.
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I agree about froyo. None of them are any faster than stock. Yes froyo is faster according to linpack and quadrant.
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I agree with this statement 110%. I've been running CM6 for a few very specific reasons and haven't been impressed so far. People keep SAYING it's faster due to Linpack, etc, but until you truly understand how programs (Java, in particular) operate - including optimizations and more - then I don't think people should trust a CPU benchmark. Even beyond hardware there are many things in software that can impact what the user perceives as "fast" and "reliable" versus what the CPU thinks.
If ANYONE in the CM6 crowd should be excited about something, it is the features of Froyo, NOT the speed. I'm likely to go back to stock and use your (sultan.of.swing's) JIT hacks.
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Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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.... I don't think he was complaining.. he merely said he doesn't see a speed difference between bloat ware and cm6 and asked for the thoughts of anyone else. Not once did he bash the cm6 rom for being slow in his opinion, he asked a question. And also he wanted to know if the lights would ever work he never said " why don't they or cm6 rom is ****ty for not having it implemented" he asked will we ever see it. Granted this could have been put in the Q and A but it still helped me being in this section, thanks to the feedback from others towards his question I learned something new. I didn't know you had to make a rom in order to be a contributor to the community lol
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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Have you made any ROMs? Because if you haven't according to what you just posted you are a taker just as much as he is. That being said you have no right to call him out or complain at him. Only he did wrong was post his question in the wrong thread. Also what have you added to the community that makes it okay to accuse others of not giving back?
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I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?
i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide
^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...
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i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?
In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff
I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all
Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?
The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
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He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.
So what is the point of flashing the new kernels that came up this morning if roms aren't out yet using the official update. I am watching virus but what he posted doesn't update the Rom just the kernel. Are the new roms going to have updated kernels built into them?
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The roms will have the kernels in them; they can't not have a kernel. Its easier to just give people a kernel so they can see how it runs on their system. If you OTA you can already have the rom. People aren't doing it because us wiser users know you'll be stuck on it for a bit, and a rooted version of it will be out shortly. Virus has the rom, but it isn't posted because he's making his tweaks to it, making it odexed/deodeoxed, removing bloat, ect.
ok i still get confused on the whole kernal and rom being two different things. i use to flash wm phones all the time and my evo is the first android phone i have ever fooled around with flashing. i am rooted now so i think i will wait for virus to finish up. hopefully it has a lot of sense 3.0 features.
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ok i still get confused on the whole kernal and rom being two different things. i use to flash wm phones all the time and my evo is the first android phone i have ever fooled around with flashing. i am rooted now so i think i will wait for virus to finish up. hopefully it has a lot of sense 3.0 features.
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Let me try to give a base explanation.
Rom- Basically the the operating system. Houses the user interface, apps, ect.
Kernel- The heart of the rom. Roms require kernels to run. They let you manipulate clock frequencies, voltages, ect. The kernel interfaces with your hardware to make it work. You flash different kernels because each has different capabilities.
From what I hear, the rom is sense 1.0. If you want 3.-0 you can try his kingdom port. In time, he may integrate sense 3.0 features into, such as the lock screen, ect.
You have to have a basic understanding of what a kernel does. It's the very core of the OS, taking information form the processor and basically telling it where to go, how to get there, what order to get there in and how fast to get there. It's the "brain" that controls the software for each piece of hardware, which the best layman's way of explaining it that I can think of.
Custom kernels refine the process, more or less.
I KNOW there's a post on here that goes into detail about kernels and what they do.
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You have to have a basic understanding of what a kernel does. It's the very core of the OS, taking information form the processor and basically telling it where to go, how to get there, what order to get there in and how fast to get there. It's the "brain" that controls the software for each piece of hardware, which the best layman's way of explaining it that I can think of.
Custom kernels refine the process, more or less.
I KNOW there's a post on here that goes into detail about kernels and what they do.
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The kernel thread is stickied at the top of this forum.
I knew it was somewhere! lol.... Hard to do searches when I'm sneaking on here every time my boss turns his back.....
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I knew it was somewhere! lol.... Hard to do searches when I'm sneaking on here every time my boss turns his back.....
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To the boss: I am NOT an accomplice to this.
Hi, i am very new at all of this, i have never even rooted a phone before. my question is which rom do i want... there are like 10-15 of them, i want one thats fast, i hear that touchwiz really slows everything down so i guess one that gets rid of that. everyone talks about the pure google experience, which one(s) would give me that. but also with features like the cool crt thing, and the the toggles in the notification bar (4g,wifi) there was one with alot of different ones...
then like 2 weeks ago, the infamous bubby got ics working but there werent any fixes because apparently he was banned... so i guess, cant really expect anything new to come from there... is anyone else going to continue it, or start over? is bubby's stable enough?
also, one last thing, please dont laugh, but if someone could just tell me how the procedure works, i can watch the how to videos but the order is my question, first you root (with "odin"), then you flash a rom?
thanks
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Hi, i am very new at all of this, i have never even rooted a phone before. my question is which rom do i want... there are like 10-15 of them, i want one thats fast, i hear that touchwiz really slows everything down so i guess one that gets rid of that. everyone talks about the pure google experience, which one(s) would give me that. but also with features like the cool crt thing, and the the toggles in the notification bar (4g,wifi) there was one with alot of different ones...
then like 2 weeks ago, the infamous bubby got ics working but there werent any fixes because apparently he was banned... so i guess, cant really expect anything new to come from there... is anyone else going to continue it, or start over? is bubby's stable enough?
also, one last thing, please dont laugh, but if someone could just tell me how the procedure works, i can watch the how to videos but the order is my question, first you root (with "odin"), then you flash a rom?
thanks
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there are probably a lot more than 10-15. there could also be ROMs in other places (sites) for your device. the rule is, that you have to check ROMs yourself. what someone else finds great may not run so smoothly on your hardware. you just have to try them yourself. there are different 'flavors' of ROMs, because the user experience is subjective. sticking with the 'flavor' metaphor, do you think a group of 1000 people could tell you what flavor of ice cream you would like 'best'? of course not, people like different things. the only thing you can do is try them out, and decide for yourself.
I'm not positive, but I think almost all of the ICS builds you'll find will likely be 'alpha' or 'beta', at best. Which means that they're not really stable enough for daily use yet. right now, ICS is more of a proof of concept and for devs who are working hard to get it ready to be ported to your phone. asking 'Are we there yet?', isn't going to make it arrive any faster.
and to your last question. that's about right. when you've rooted, then you can flash. read, read, read. then when you feel ready...flash away.
hope this helps. good luck!
thanks for your help... yeah, i guess ive just got to check them all out... maybe try a couple different ones..
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thanks for your help... yeah, i guess ive just got to check them all out... maybe try a couple different ones..
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that's the best route. also, you can check youtube by searching for the name of a ROM you're interested in. sometimes you'll find walkthru videos that can help you eliminate some of them without wasting the time and effort of flashing. or maybe you'll see the video and say 'THAT'S the rom I want!!!'