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Hi all, im new to Desire since last Tuesday and am loving the move from Windows Mobile 6.5.
Im just wondering how long it takes for you all to charge your Desires? If i plug it into the mains it takes roughly 2.5 hours from about 15% battery level, but if i charge it from a USB port on the back of my computer (not an exhillary one on the front panel) it takes like 4.5 hours ! Is this normal ?
Yes this is normal. Charge from the usb cable through the laptop takes like double time of the normal way of charge.
Thats normal. A laptop will provide less ampage through a usb port, thus it takes longer
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A cool ty. I just thought it was a bit weird that my other HTC phones showed very little difference between the two.
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Shambolicuk said:
A cool ty. I just thought it was a bit weird that my other HTC phones showed very little difference between the two.
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Maybe the bigger difference because the desire has a higher power drain.
I have a spare USB cable on which I have shorted the 2 data wires, this tricks the desire into thinking its plugged into an AC charger and charges at full speed.
Be warned the slow charge is a safety feature, bypassing it could cause your phone to draw more power than your laptop can safely output (USB standard is 500ma, desire needs 600-700ma) and cause damage. So far I have not seen anyone do any damage doing this, nor do I believe it is evn possible on modern equiptment.
This is a feature of the USB standard.
A USB socket on a computer will provide 5V @ 0.5Amps. The wall charger that comes with the Desire provides 5V @ 1Amp.
Thus, when charging via a computer, it takes roughly twice as long.
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone else had a similar problem..
Everytime I connect a car charger, it charges for a second then disconnects itself, the charger is still plugged in, and the engine is running. The red light on the charger is on too. I'm not saying this is a ROM problem or anything at all, but its the second charger I've had that does this, I don't suppose anybody knows a fix if it happens on other devices too?
Is this an official HTC charger?
I know it sounds silly, but most cheap unbranded car chargers cause all sorts of problems. It's usually that they don't short the two data pins, so that the phone thinks it's plugged into a PC. It will then only charge at half rate (500mA) in line with usb standards.
Also, the charger may not even be able to handle a 500mA output, which would suggest why your phones sees the charger, measures the output, sees it as insufficient, and stops the charging. Is there a sticker on the charger starting current output? They can still be misleading though.
An official HTC car charger (just like the mains wall charger) will have it's data pins sorted out. The phone will detect this, and switch to mains charging mode, and draw the full 1000mA. You may have noticed that your phone will charge twice as fast off a mains wall charger than it will from being plugged into a computers usb port.
Trust me I've thrown out about 3 of the cheap ones! Even charging at 500mA, your phone will still not be getting enough juice to do google maps navigation with GPS.
Hope I've helped.
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It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
jimster4389 said:
It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
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If its a USB charger try a different USB lead. When my Desire arrived brand new the lead would only work properly when I bent the lead round the back of the phone otherwise it would start a charge (LED would light up red, phone says charging) but the battery % would never get any higher. Bought a new official HTC lead and problem solved.
Plugged in my Epic Touch to charge today and it wouldn't charge. Used a few different cords, and different outlets. Then tried my HP touchpad charger and it worked. Looks like I got a bad wall charger. Although, it was working last night. Anybody else?
Now that I've tested it some more, it's just REALLY finniky about being plugged in. It has to be plugged in at the perfect depth, somewhat at an angle even. Anyone else notice this? Bad charger?
Got my phone through Wirefly... surely I won't have to return the whole phone just to have this replaced?
I wouldn't even bother assuming i had another charger. The block Samsung charger looks just like the Hong Kong ones from ebay that you can buy for 3.99 each.
Well this one is supposed to be "super duper fast charger" so what kind of numbers (ohms/amps/jiggabats) am I supposed to look for when buying a new one. I know last night I had it on my old Epic charger and it took over 4 hours to charge to 100% from 82%.
Also, I know it's been mentioned before, but this thing is UNUSABLE when it's plugged in to charge. at least with the stock charger.
My samsung charger makes the phones touch sensitivity go thru the roof. Opens applications and menu's and carries out commands and such. It also creates lag switching between screens. Not an issue when I have my HTC Evo charger hooked up to it though. I'm just exchanging the whole phone and charger combo to be safe.
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Also, I know it's been mentioned before, but this thing is UNUSABLE when it's plugged in to charge. at least with the stock charger.
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Really? I haven't even opened my stock charger and cable because I have so many others but I'm using a wall charger only with a Sprint label on it (got it doing some phone trading along the way) and the phone flies just like it does not on the charger.
The one that comes on the box gives the phone the major blues while charging
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
This is horrible news ... my epic charger is half broken..
Using a HTC charger and it works flawless I wont even try to use the Sammy ones especially for DLing roms or for odin
Alas my sammy charger does not work either. I walked in to BB and they handed me a usb charging block branded HTC, since they didnt have any epics left.
Yes but what about speed of charge? The stock charger is supposed to be a quick charger.
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Like I said in an earlier post, I haven't even opened the stock charger...so you can't use the phone with it charging with the stock..its that bad?
Hi Guys
When i connect the charger, the screen becomes substantially less responsive and jerky
has anyone faced this problem ? is it software or hardware so that I can get it replaced
Thanks
hi,
it seems i am encountering that also spefs below for my rom
RADLOUNI said:
Hi Guys
When i connect the charger, the screen becomes substantially less responsive and jerky
has anyone faced this problem ? is it software or hardware so that I can get it replaced
Thanks
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Hi,
Iam from UAE also, Al Ain.
Where you bought and when?
Is it made in Taiwan or China?
Hey.. I guess that's your first charging.. phone will do well if you don't mess with your phone at the first charge and don't run any applications.. after few charges the phone tends to cool down gradually.. my phone yesterday boomed till 55C and I've encountered the same problem as you regarding screen.. But hold on for few days.. ( hopefully it'll come out good )
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and just noticed today my phone hit all time low 34C
I also has this problem, had my phone for two days and got the same error this morning when using it during charging.. there better be a fix for this asap or im returning this and going back to my galaxy nexus
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Hi,
Iam from UAE also, Al Ain.
Where you bought and when?
Is it made in Taiwan or China?
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Etisalat business centre
Taiwan
I have seen this many times with my old Sensation. It would do that if you plugged it into a power source with the wrong voltage or amps. I bought a travel charger with a USB plug on it and whenever I connected my Sensation it would go berserk, unresponsive to touch and screen flickering and jerking.
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I don't think its necessarily HTC guys. My SGS has done it since day one as well.. its a nightmare browsing/texting when plugged in, it even once set an alarm by itself thinking I was touching the screen when it was just on my bedside table. And spammed my ex with the letter m and sent it to her on Whatsapp haha
Known to happen if you use a faulty or unofficial cheap charger. Tried using a different charger?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDyMykRH9M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I had the same issue with my Motorola Milestone (Droid). Actually the whole casing felt to be slightly statically charged when connected to the charger.
This might be solved by using a different adapter, but it could also be the general electric layout of the room/house, which can cause non-neutral charges on the "ground" side of the charger. Static charges seriously mess with a capacitive screen.
I don't have the problem with my One X in the Netherlands.
Well this is intresting as i have the same problem. i will need to try another charger as i have the same problem.
Well i have tried two HTC chargers, tried 3 diffrent wall sockets and 3 USB cables all show the same problem. Too me it looks like the screen is not grounded. Much like my HTC sensation which need a little bit of alaminuim film to ground correctly.
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Known to happen if you use a faulty or unofficial cheap charger. Tried using a different charger?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDyMykRH9M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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i have noticed this on desire HD - same problem - with a unofficial cheap charger with USB port. switched back to official HTC charger from that point, all good.
so - mostly the charger is faulty or expects a different voltage level (110v Vs 240v thing)
Well i just tried the wifes blackberry charger, works fine. How come None of the offical chargers work.
Blackberry Charger
Input: 100~240v, 150mA 50-60Hz, 10-20va
Output: 5v 750mA
HTC chargers
Input: 100~240v, 200mA, 50-60hz
Output: 5v 1A
So it appears the HTC chargers output more voltage but surely this sort of thing would be wide spread.
Called HTC tech support they didn't have a clue so my case is being passed to their 2nd line team.
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DazzXP said:
Well i just tried the wifes blackberry charger, works fine. How come None of the offical chargers work.
Blackberry Charger
Input: 100~240v, 150mA 50-60Hz, 10-20va
Output: 5v 750mA
HTC chargers
Input: 100~240v, 200mA, 50-60hz
Output: 5v 1A
So it appears the HTC chargers output more voltage but surely this sort of thing would be wide spread.
Called HTC tech support they didn't have a clue so my case is being passed to their 2nd line team.
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Same here, I am, facing this issue with the official htc charger. When using a blackberry charger this issue does not happen
i've had the same issue with other phones.. i fixed using a Nokia Charger with 1.250 mAh which is also superfast in charging the phone
First charge with mine last night and mine suddenly went laggy/unresponsive when I put it on charge. I also ran a quadrant and only got around 3600 when I'd normally get 4900?!
Wasn't sure if this was due to being on very low battery though (despite being on charge)?
I guess the charger mess upp the capacitive touchscreen, either because of electric fields messing with the sensitive field that sense the finger, or bad grounding in the touch-panel.
I had similar problem with my old Legend. If i had it laying on certain materials (cloth etc) the screen became unresponsive.
so this is not a problem with the phone, it just a design "feature" of having a capacitive touch screen.
And yeah, the charger might be the cullprint. Either it has diffrent pin-out in the charger causing bad grounding or something else.
btw, the voltage is 5 volt on all chargers. the current is diffrent though. I dont think the phone charge with more then 200-450mAH considering it takes 4-5 hours to charge fully.
I've not experienced any screen issues while charging with the screen. I've charged it with the official charger, an iphone charger, a touchpad charger and an xperia play charger.
My old desire used to do this if using certain chargers in some sockets at work.
I'll see what mine is like again later when I charge it.
Has anyone had a pop-up saying something along the lines of 'Activity consuming more battery than the charge is giving' ?
Not in those exact words but that's basically what it said. I was watching a flash video with my phone on charge at the time.
So as the title suggests I had a bad experiences with my htc 10. I upgraded or should I say side graded from my nexus 6p. (I'm gonna do the captain 2 phones life for a while) I promptly put my htc 10 to charge over night with my nexus 6p charger. Stupidly thinking it's USB C so what could go wrong. I woke up to a freeky hot htc that actually burned me before powering itself of. Probably a safety feature.
So the question is : does anybody know if there is a real difference between the two chargers and technologys?and what that differens means for the regular consumers. And should I be looking for a special type of cable or something, as I had to do when hunting for a second USB c cable to my nexus. Remember the whole debacle of the bad USB c cables on amazon.
Have I damaged my new htc in any way?
Side note is that it's working fine now that I charged it up again with the included charger.
Note to self: Use the HTC charger for awhile.
This is exactly why I only use the HTC charger to charge mine. Figured something like this would happen.
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I also noticed it charges ungodly slow when connected to a computer
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I also noticed it charges ungodly slow when connected to a computer
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Pretty sure all phones will charge ungodly slow connected to a computer. USB2.0 outputs 5V 0.5A while USB3.0 outputs 5V 0.9A. It will be slower than any slow charger.
I have charged my 10 every single time with my OEM Nexus 6P charger (albeit with a i-Orange 6.6ft cable) and have had zero issues.
You don't need to stick with the HTC charger. The phones today decide hope much and when they want power. If the OP's charger has been working fine with his 6P then i see no reason why it would cause his 10 to overheat.
To the OP. You most likely have a defective 10. I would exchange it ASAP before something worse happens.
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So as the title suggests I had a bad experiences with my htc 10. I upgraded or should I say side graded from my nexus 6p. (I'm gonna do the captain 2 phones life for a while) I promptly put my htc 10 to charge over night with my nexus 6p charger. Stupidly thinking it's USB C so what could go wrong. I woke up to a freeky hot htc that actually burned me before powering itself of. Probably a safety feature.
So the question is : does anybody know if there is a real difference between the two chargers and technologys?and what that differens means for the regular consumers. And should I be looking for a special type of cable or something, as I had to do when hunting for a second USB c cable to my nexus. Remember the whole debacle of the bad USB c cables on amazon.
Have I damaged my new htc in any way?
Side note is that it's working fine now that I charged it up again with the included charger.
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have you noticed any negative effects from this yet?
I noticed that my 10 gets pretty warm while charging. But I think that's a standard affair. Nothing hand burning however
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have you noticed any negative effects from this yet?
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Not yet... That's what I'm a bit worried about. I'm not super happy with the battery life so far. I've narrowed it down to three options
1. I'm coming from the nexus 6p so it could just be that I'm used to a larger battery.
2. The htc is still in its first week of use, so the battery life may yet improve.
3. The affair with the nexus 6p charger damaged the battery in some way.
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I noticed that my 10 gets pretty warm while charging. But I think that's a standard affair. Nothing hand burning however
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Warm and relatively hot is in my opinion the norm when talking about a full Metal body phone. It was the same with the M7, M8 and nexus 6p.
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I also noticed it charges ungodly slow when connected to a computer
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Do you have the quick charge option on your computer. My experience is that most phones are freeky slow when connected to a computer, if you some how can't tell the computer that's it should charge the device not just power it
Yea, something seems wrong there with the phone. Exchange it if you can, like someone said. I use my HTC charger at home, and an Anker branded cable in my car with an Anker quick charge car adapter and no problems at all even though it isn't an HTC product.
Wow check this out.
http://m.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
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Wow check this out.
http://m.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
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Yep, definitely a problem that folks need to be aware of. Bottom line, only use the charger that was supplied with the HTC 10. In fact, a warning about using only the HTC 10 charger is etched on the back of the device, although the print is tiny, but it's there.
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HTC uses their own custom version of QuickCharge 3.0 or something like that from what I remember reading. It cannot just plug into any standard charger and work properly. It is really dumb, but that is most likely the cause of this serious issue. The HTC 10 also goes out of spec with higher voltage than USB-C allows for because of this custom setup HTC uses.
i have used aukey and anker cables and chargers for my G2, G5, and HTC10 without any issue + the HTC10 native stuff... no issues.
no negative affects charging or maintaining are charge, however i am comparing it to myself only.
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HTC uses their own custom version of QuickCharge 3.0 or something like that from what I remember reading. It cannot just plug into any standard charger and work properly. It is really dumb, but that is most likely the cause of this serious issue. The HTC 10 also goes out of spec with higher voltage than USB-C allows for because of this custom setup HTC uses.
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They aren't using a custom setup.. They're using Quick Charge 3.0. Which Isn't compliant with the standard usb-c spec. Which essentially means, dont use a nexus 6p or pixel charger and thats it. There are far more devices out that are quick charge 3.0 compatible, and those are the accessories you want to look for. Not the usb-c spec. Any standard charger will actually work just fine. It's only the usb-c standard you would want to ignore. Literally every device manufacturer other then the current nexus lineup uses QC. It's more of a standard then the usb-c spec.
drewmor said:
So as the title suggests I had a bad experiences with my htc 10. I upgraded or should I say side graded from my nexus 6p. (I'm gonna do the captain 2 phones life for a while) I promptly put my htc 10 to charge over night with my nexus 6p charger. Stupidly thinking it's USB C so what could go wrong. I woke up to a freeky hot htc that actually burned me before powering itself of. Probably a safety feature.
So the question is : does anybody know if there is a real difference between the two chargers and technologys?and what that differens means for the regular consumers. And should I be looking for a special type of cable or something, as I had to do when hunting for a second USB c cable to my nexus. Remember the whole debacle of the bad USB c cables on amazon.
Have I damaged my new htc in any way?
Side note is that it's working fine now that I charged it up again with the included charger.
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You'd need to account for every app that could've been running over night and eliminate those from the possible troublemakers before you could say it was a problem with the 6p cable which is in spec for usb-c.
you really wont notice right now if the overheat damaged the device if it still turns on. But lithium ion battery's dont like to get hot. they will start to degrade and the battery will hold less of a charge. you could RMA it because its under the manufacturer warranty but you will end up with a "refurbished" device. (you might get lucky and get a new due to how new the device is)
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this is from a personal experience. i RMA'd 4 rezounds all 4 were "certified like new" (crap) before i went with insurance and they sent be a different device.