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Timeout-Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device

I have a couple of POP3 accounts on my O2 XDAIIs. I used to be able to download my email from ISP without problems.
Lately, when there is any email waiting, it will connect and try to download and pop up the following message "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again."
The other POP3 accounts work fine, even with the same ISP, and this POP3 account used to work when I first got the unit. The POP3 account in question works fine from my Treo using the same SIM card (I have Cingular).
I searched all over the web and forums, I see many have the problem and some have not been able to resolve it. I tried:
1) Soft and Hard Reset
2) Deleting and reentering the account
3) Used the Sprite Mail cleanup utility (which basically cleans all emails and attachments)
4) Tried a registry key that had worked for some: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox, create new DWORD ForceOffSSL and give it a value of 1.
5) Checked with my ISP – they could not see any problem with the account and works with anything else but my O2 XDA IIs.
6) I tried the Flemail 2006 program (formerly WebIS) and it worled for email. But the program is so buggy and slow that I had to delete it. This tells me the problem is with the native pocket outlook.
If there is NO email, it will connect, check and disconnect with no error.
There is a timeout somewhere. The other accounts can connect and download without problems.
Has anybody else had this problem and does anybody have any suggestions?
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No one else has had this problem? Any suggestions?
I know it is device specific as it works on the same GSM account on a Treo.

PPC6700 with same problem
I just purchased the PPC 6700 and I love the device itself, but I have had many problems with it after owning it for only 4 days.
1. Sprint failed to let me know that my phone had to be updated. Thanks! I only found out about this update after 1 hour of phone tech support trying to find out why my phone randomly went into flight mode. What a pain in the ***.
2. I have my own servers and cannot download my mail from them or my home isp. Sprint by the way repeatedly told me this must be an issue with you server. I told him after being on the phone for 3 hours (I could tell he wasn't happy) "You must be right! Microsoft has always developed software much more then anything ever put out in the Unix world".
So the only help I guess I can offer to you is "Yes, I have the same problem with the native outlook that comes with WM5.0

likegadgets said:
No one else has had this problem? Any suggestions?
I know it is device specific as it works on the same GSM account on a Treo.
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Whenever I see this (and I see it a alot) on mt XDA IIs, I just select Accounts|Clear <account>
If it doesnt work immediately then I restart the Outlook Inbox app and/or disconnect/reconnect.
Been through searching registry/deleting this & that database file / re/installing accounts. Havent had to do that for ages.
I access 5-6 pop accounts from various servers, several are my wife's. My bet is that it has something to do with whether the current status of the emails downloaded in your device matches the server etc - due to the function that you can delete the emails from the server by downloading, deleting and then deleting from the 'deleted items' folder and re-sycning
HTH

ME TOO! Any resolution??
I am having the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with my new 6700...did you ever find a resolution?
THanks,

I am having the same problem on a Hermes / TyTN.
My first TyTN was fine. I have 3 email accounts. 1 uses SSL and the other 2 don't. There were no problems using either account.
Having replaced my 1st TyTN with a new one (due to poor wifi on first device) I now get the message 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again'.
The only solution is to use the ForceOffSSL setting for my 2 none-SSL POP3 accounts. Then I have to reboot the TyTN without the ForceOffSSL settings to use my SSL POP3 account.
Continually changing the ForceOffSSL setting and rebooting is annoying, so for the time being I'm using nPOP email client for my non-SSL accounts.

getting an email timed out on cingular 8525
I am getting the same message 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again'. I am having the same problem intermittently with Htc Tytn with a pop account yahoo. I seem to connect without a problem on the internet but i do get this error intermittently. any solution?

Same here ... cannot send mail via OptOnline Account
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OK...I got a resolution to this last night on the Cingular forum.
Quick answer is that OOL's SMTP Server is locked down. I needed to change the outgoing server to Cingular's (CWMX.com).
Thanks to anyone who took the time to click-in on this thread.
Happy New Year, all!
-pvs
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Hi all, OK, this marks my first post on this board. I've been a lurker for a few months, and have settled into a Cingular 8525 as my first Pocket PC Phone.
I noticed a few days ago that I could not send mail via my OptOnline Account, unless I was using WiFi or the 8525 was tethered to my home PC via ActiveSync. I was thnking all along that it was probably due to some piece of third party software that I installed over the past few weeks (a hearty thanks to all on these forums who develop and/or market their wonderful wares, btw).
But today, for a lack of anything else to do, I hard reset and tried simply setting up that one account to try my machine out in its pure form. Lo and behold, I still get the same error, 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again.'
As a matter of fact, it seems this message itself is in error, since it happens when I try to SEND a message, not when I try to receive them. I have even received emails in this account at the same time this error message appears, but at any rate, messages in my outbox do not get sent.
As far as I can tell, all the settings are correct. I have played with them, and tried all the permutations I can think of, but this baby will not send mail via this account. My XpressMail and Hotmail accounts work fine, both sending and receiving, and I can browse the web fine via My ISP or WiFi.
I have spent a lot of time searching the web for an answer to this problem, but it seems it's been quite prevalent with WM5.0 devices for well over a year, and still does not have an answer.
So ... my first post ... which should have been a thank you all, and Happy New Year, has turned into a request for the talents of you folk who know so much more than I regarding these devices.
Can anyone please lend a hand? Also ... is it "legal" to cross-post this message onto other forums on this board?
Thanks so much to anyone who can provide a solution.
-Paul Slabowski (a.k.a. pvs)

I got it working
Like others in this thread I was getting the "unable to download messages to device" error when sending. My solution is:
Try leaving the 'domain' field blank.
It's on the Server Information page, and also on the Outgoing Settings if you 'Use separate settings' for your outgoing server.
Hope this helps you.
Rich

Domian Blank
My Domain is blank and frankly im just getting very agrivated by this. Does anybody eles have other advice to give towards this "cannot download message"?

I've got WM6, I've tried clearing and deleting the account, soft resetting the phone, making sure the domain field is empty, etc. It still gives this error for my POP account while my IMAP account is fine. Anyone find a solution?

Yes, deleting the domain really works in some cases (f.e. Gmail), but the same error occurs in my other account although I delete the domain. And funny thing is that it occurs only when there are some emails in outbox, receiving emails seems to work normnally :S

I'm still encountering this problem after trying everything on this post...
any other ideas?

Just had the same problem tonight. My mail server recently changed IP addresses, so I suspect DNS issues were the cause of my problem. I tried using the new IP address in place of the host name, but that didn't work for me. The account settings didn't seem fixable. Deleting the email account entirely and adding it back did the trick.

Problems sending email via GPRS

Can anyone help.
I use the ordinary pre-installed outlook program on my MDAIII. I have always been able tos end and receive pop email over wifi and I can receive email no probelms via gprs. However, when I send messages via gprs they come back as undeliverable. I don't think it used to happen all the time but I think it is doing now.
I have never changed the rom versions or done anything like that so I shouldn't have done it any serious damage.
Any help anyone?

Check if your e-mail acount provider needs password for outgoing emails. If so, probably writing your user name and password which you use to read your incoming mails to outgoing mails section will solve your problem.

nonereal said:
Check if your e-mail acount provider needs password for outgoing emails. If so, probably writing your user name and password which you use to read your incoming mails to outgoing mails section will solve your problem.
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Thats sounds logical - although wouldn't that affect me sending mail via wifi? it works fine via wifi - just not GPRS?

That's also logical. :wink:
If your mail account provider needs an SSL connection and specify the incoming and outgoing ports, your GPRS carrier may not support this kind of connection.

SOrry to be dim but I am not sure I am quite with you. I know that some of my emails have previously got through but have no idea why this has changed. DO you know how I need to check these settings as I am not sure about it at all.
thanks so much

mobilecat said:
Can anyone help.
I use the ordinary pre-installed outlook program on my MDAIII. I have always been able tos end and receive pop email over wifi and I can receive email no probelms via gprs. However, when I send messages via gprs they come back as undeliverable. I don't think it used to happen all the time but I think it is doing now.
I have never changed the rom versions or done anything like that so I shouldn't have done it any serious damage.
Any help anyone?
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The problem is some weard logic from the ISP's. You probably have an email account with the ISP that gets you your internet connections as well at home.
When using WiFi @ home you still send your email via your own ISP.
When you send email via GPRS, the email will be send via your GSM/GPRS provider of your sim-card which will be another telco/isp.
For some reason telco's/ISP won't allow you to send mail, using the smtp (outgoing mail) server of your own ISP. This is why it won't work via GPRS.
It very much depends on your telco company to get this working. I know the trick for vodafone in the Netherlands, but that won't help you I think. Most of the time some smart "googling" will help.

solved
Although it was long winded andnot exactly easy I have solved this by the most logical method.
I have kept my settings the same for my 3 pop email accounts (same ISP) for wifi and set up one new one called gprs etc. for sending mail by gprs with the outgoing server as smtp.t-mobile.co.uk rather than that of my isp. Thanks very much for sending me in the right direction.
Warning to anyone else struggling with similar probelms - you need to keep the acounts seperate I think. have one for wifi and one for gprs as the outgoing servers are going to be different and the blasted machines can't cope with automatically switching.
thanks to all concerned.

Touch Pro 2 and gmail

I have had my TP2 for a few days now and i love it, except for the fact that I cannot send or receive email from my gmail account
I can access the internet fine, and use the youtube app fine, but whenever i try to send an email or hit send/receive i get this error message
"CANNOT CONNECT WITH CURRENT CONNECTIONS SETTINGS. TO CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS, TAP SETTINGS"
When i set up the email the only things i was required to supply were my email address and password....so i am assuming the problem lies with the way my handset is trying to access the gmail account, ie. trying to use wifi or something? (i dont have wifi, so i will only be using the "unlimited" interent provided with my t-mobile UK tariff)
has anyone else had this problem or do they know how to get around it as i have finally got myself a decent handset where i can (allegedly!) check my email on the move, but yet i somehow cant get it working?!!
Ihave tried both hard and soft resets to get this sorted but it just wont work and i feel like pulling my hair out!
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I know it's not much consolation but it just worked for me...
I have a SIM free TP2 and UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk.
Incoming mail server is imap.gmail.com
Account type is IMAP4
Username is my full gmail username
Outgoing mail server is smtp.gmail.com
outgoing server requires authentication is ticked
All this was set via automatic configuration.
Hope this helps,
Richard

This is what i have done to recieve and send Gmail trueout the standard email client on my Pro II.
First of all you have to enable imap at your gmail account which you can find under settings.
Then on your phone do the following settings.
- make an new account in your email client
- fill in your gmail adress
- fill in your name
- fill at incomming mail "imap.gmail" and account type "imap"
- fill in your account name (gmail adress) and password
- fill at outgoing mail server smtp.gmail.com
and those two checkboxes must be checked
- auto recieve and send is up to you
hope this will help you

ther's a known bug in windows mobile poutlook...
sometimes the autoconf for gmail doesn't work...(i had the same issue on my omnia)
you only need to enter the account details by hand..
to do that, in the first screen where your address is asked, enter [email protected]
leave it without the final m.
after that fill in manually all the account details, then when finished edit the account and put that m in the domain...
that should work...at least in my omnia was the only way to get gmail working...

I used this guide en it works perfectly
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78886

hi, thanks or all the replies, most appreciated.
however, i have now established that i can get my gmail account working - but only over wifi!?!? when the wireless router is turned off i get the same message as before, so there must be a setting or something that is telling my TP2 to look for a wireless connection when performing a send/receive, rather than using the "internet" (if thats the right term) that is included in my contract..AAAARGH...
i have had a look but cannot find any settings for this so i must be going mad?
can anyone shed any light on this for me before i go mad??!!

quasar99 said:
hi, thanks or all the replies, most appreciated.
however, i have now established that i can get my gmail account working - but only over wifi!?!? when the wireless router is turned off i get the same message as before, so there must be a setting or something that is telling my TP2 to look for a wireless connection when performing a send/receive, rather than using the "internet" (if thats the right term) that is included in my contract..AAAARGH...
i have had a look but cannot find any settings for this so i must be going mad?
can anyone shed any light on this for me before i go mad??!!
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Disable proxyserver, don't have the place where you can find this. I have a dutch rom

I have a gmail imap connection on my HTC Touch that was working great but has failed to connect for the past two hours or so.

I found that to change from Download 30 Days to 7 days and it worked fine.
Oddly I returned my TP2, and switched back to my VarioV, same problem (had worked fine until then). New TP2 is now here, so will start with 7 days and try expanding to 30 days later.

chillaxx said:
Disable proxyserver, don't have the place where you can find this. I have a dutch rom
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does anyone know how to do this? i cannot find this option anywhere?

is there any way i can see how my tp2 is trying to receive data from my gmail account, ie. if it is trying to use internet or wifi?!?
also, does anyone have any details for the settings that their tp2 (on t-mobile UK) is using when trying to retrieve email (not by wifi)??!
i'm also assuming that t-mobile wont be able to help me as i got my phone/contract via a third party and t-mobile themselves dont seem to stock the phone themselves....

I had this problem, it drove me nuts until I worked out what it was, if i was already connected it would work but it would not establish its own new connection.
To fix it go into the email settings for the account, then select:
Edit Account Setup
Next
Next
Next
Next (Outgoing (SMTP) mail server screen)
Click the “Advanced Server Settings” Link
In the “Network connections” it defaults to “The Internet” but if you have gone through the “Connection Setup Wizard” when you first installed your SIM it renames the connection, in my case to “T-Mobile Internet”.
Change “Network Connections” to the correct one i.e. “T-Mobile Internet”
hey presto, you can now get your emails
hope this helps everyone

nlhall said:
I had this problem, it drove me nuts until I worked out what it was, if i was already connected it would work but it would not establish its own new connection.
To fix it go into the email settings for the account, then select:
Edit Account Setup
Next
Next
Next
Next (Outgoing (SMTP) mail server screen)
Click the “Advanced Server Settings” Link
In the “Network connections” it defaults to “The Internet” but if you have gone through the “Connection Setup Wizard” when you first installed your SIM it renames the connection, in my case to “T-Mobile Internet”.
Change “Network Connections” to the correct one i.e. “T-Mobile Internet”
hey presto, you can now get your emails
hope this helps everyone
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if the connection has a proxy in the setup, than you can use that connection only if selected like above...
if you leave "The internet" the proxy settings are ignored...you have to select the exact connection..but this will prevent the gmail to connect with wifi

Emails not coming through, reasons?

I had the same problem on 2 HTC Kaisers and now on my touch pro 2. In short my mail doesnt come through via 3G, only when i connect to a Wifi network. Whenever i try it always comes up with failing to connect to the windows live servers, a message i kept getting when i set the account up (until i did it via WIFI.
I have tried 2 hard resets and i still cant get the mail to come through, be it via the auto retreve or via the manual send/receive. I dont have any problems downloading stocks/shares or weather etc through 3G/HSDPA.
It seems to be doing it for both gmail & hotmail, but its the hotmail account im more interested in.
Can anyone recommend anything i could try to try and get my mail through/out?
Many thanks guys

Try using IMAP accounts for Gmail since that's what normally works. You should also specify SSL. As for Hotmail, I don't normally use it but you should be able to retrieve mail the same way.

Iv gone through the google settings and it is set up using IMAP, though i couldnt find any mention of SSL. As for the hotmail settings it wont let me enter the manual setup, all it does is sit there. If i delete the account and try and re add it, then go through the manual setup there, all it does is load up opera & log me into my web browser inbox.
I can only imagine it is to do with these settings so any advice on changing them would be greatly appreciated!

i've always had trouble with my hotmail and windows mobile (lol microsoft's own email service, go figure). there is a way to manually enter the settings. You have to set up a new email address; put the email address as: [email protected]. leave out a letter or something. it'll then take you to the manual set up. your incoming server is pop3.live.com. make sure you check SSL security. outgoing is going to be whatever cell provider you use or you can try smtp.live.com. good luck

[Q] "cannot establish a reliable data connection"

Hi,
I hav bought a new HTC Desire HD android phone. I didnt add a google account in the beginning as I didnt have any GPRS or WiFi connection. Later when i tried to create a gogle account, I got the error as :
"cannot establish a reliable data connection".
I have done all the clear cache and clear data stuff.
I checked all APN settings.. My browser is working fine.
All I couldnt do is I cannot add a google account to my phone.
If I do hard reset,my APN settings will be erased,then how could i create a google account while GPRS is the only possible way here to connect to internet??
I read about this in many forums. Noone has given me a proper solution.
Please Help ASAP

This may sound dumb but have you tried to create a google account on the computer, then after you have done that, run the set up wizard. And just log in with the details you created on your computer
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I attempted to add my gmail account into my phone. When I tried doing that,I got this error. We cannot use any other app without synchronising it with ur google account