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Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
ricochet69 said:
Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
ricochet69 said:
ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
see attached screenshot
Lennyuk said:
well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
ricochet69 said:
ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.
So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
dahauss said:
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
Regards,
Dave
I've done a search on the forums here, and haven't been able to come to a solid answer on this... I went completely App crazy and ended up almost filling my Evo's internal Storage. I used sdmove to move whatever apps supported move to SD over to the SD card. Now I have about 68mb of storage left, but I feel like that too will run out quickly.
Will APPS2SD allow me to move apps that don't nativly support Froyo's Move to SD over to the SD card? Would it have any ill effects on the phone?
If it's safe to set up, how would I go about setting APPS2SD up? Do I just partition the card with an ext partition via RA recovery?
DeMiNe0 said:
I've done a search on the forums here, and haven't been able to come to a solid answer on this... I went completely App crazy and ended up almost filling my Evo's internal Storage. I used sdmove to move whatever apps supported move to SD over to the SD card. Now I have about 68mb of storage left, but I feel like that too will run out quickly.
Will APPS2SD allow me to move apps that don't nativly support Froyo's Move to SD over to the SD card? Would it have any ill effects on the phone?
If it's safe to set up, how would I go about setting APPS2SD up? Do I just partition the card with an ext partition via RA recovery?
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that is correct. after you partition your sd card go into terminal emulator and type a2sd check. It will tell you if it is working. Next type a2sd help. That will show you all the commands and descriptions
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Also you can move the davlink cache too the sd card and that frees up a lot of space too.
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stangdriverdoug said:
Also you can move the davlink cache too the sd card and that frees up a lot of space too.
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How does one go about doing that?
DeMiNe0 said:
How does one go about doing that?
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Type "a2sd help". This will give u a list of all commands that apps2d has to offer. Type "a2sd cachesd" to move David to your SD partition.
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OK, so I enabled ap2sd, and moved the cache over to SD. WOW, that gave alot of space. Before I moved the cache, I also noticed that my space boosted up to over 200mb. Does this mean all my apps were allready moved over to the SDCard? If so, does that also mean that all my apps will be installed to the SDcard from now on?
I just wanna make sure that I don't manually need to move them, and If I do, I need to figure out how I do that. ap2sd help didn't tell me how to manually move apps, so I am assuming its all done automatically now.
DeMiNe0 said:
OK, so I enabled ap2sd, and moved the cache over to SD. WOW, that gave alot of space. Before I moved the cache, I also noticed that my space boosted up to over 200mb. Does this mean all my apps were allready moved over to the SDCard? If so, does that also mean that all my apps will be installed to the SDcard from now on?
I just wanna make sure that I don't manually need to move them, and If I do, I need to figure out how I do that. ap2sd help didn't tell me how to manually move apps, so I am assuming its all done automatically now.
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Bumping this thread. I'd like to know that answer to your question as well.
The apps are moved automatically....also there are commands that will move the apps from the sd card to int. Memory And back If you choose. And finally you can type in a2sd diskspace and and it will tell you the amount of space being used in the partition.
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Hey guys,
to combat the low memory problem, I've been trying to use Link2SD. I have formatted, partioned and set up my sd card as instructed on the link2sd instruction page. However, when I create a link for an application, I LOSE internal memory. how the heck does that happen? Could someone please shed some light on this for me cause it really sucks
Link2sd doesn't move data to the sd card.
Use s2e or app2sd instead.
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Guit4eva said:
Hey guys,
to combat the low memory problem, I've been trying to use Link2SD. I have formatted, partioned and set up my sd card as instructed on the link2sd instruction page. However, when I create a link for an application, I LOSE internal memory. how the heck does that happen? Could someone please shed some light on this for me cause it really sucks
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Don't move all apps to SD Card (it will not increase the Internal Memory). Instead go to each app on Link2sd and create link for Application, Dalvik-Cache and Lib files. Also enable 'Auto Link' option.
Hope this may be useful. (If really press 'Thanks')
Guit4eva said:
Hey guys,
to combat the low memory problem, I've been trying to use Link2SD. I have formatted, partioned and set up my sd card as instructed on the link2sd instruction page. However, when I create a link for an application, I LOSE internal memory. how the heck does that happen? Could someone please shed some light on this for me cause it really sucks
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- Enable autolink.
- Select all apps and create link and link all the files.
- Open titanium backup and integrate davlik into ROM. It'll free up some 60+ mb. but make sure you have space on system partition otherwise delete some system apps you never use.
- Clear cache and reboot.
BTW S2e is also a great alternative. I never used it but heard great review about it.
Thanks for the help guys. So basically, should I move all the apps back onto internal, then create links for all of them instead?
Guit4eva said:
Thanks for the help guys. So basically, should I move all the apps back onto internal, then create links for all of them instead?
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Yes and you can link them directly off the sd card too. Link2sd app will take care of it.
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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Lloir said:
it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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Hello I am looking for a Rom or whatever that would make my sd card the phone storage instead the 500mb u get with the phone
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There are a couple of apps that can do it they basically just link to your external try directory binder
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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What you are asking is impossible, you can´t make bigger the space of you´re phone, using the sd card.
Allthough you can try to use some applications to move the apps to you're SD, apps like Link2Sd(You need root) or more.
Also you can root you´re mobile and use titanium backup to delete apps you don´t need and you can´t remove,normally, but attention, if you remove some apps you´re phone can stop working.
I hope i helped!
If you have unlocked bootloader, you can flash Lupus GB kernel. It have 640MB data partition. And with the help of Link2SD (to move as much apps as you can to SD) it should be enough for some time
You could also partition SD card so apps2sd or link2sd can use it expand storage but is somehow harder to setup. You might check http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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Are you rooted? If so get titanium backup pro (it's worth the $6 or $7). There's an option for moving dalvik-cache to /cache in there. Depending on phone, you can free up 80-100 MB of space by doing this. Here is the manual method, but it may not work on a lot of devices. Lack of space on these phones was my driving force for rooting it. I'm not certain about this (maybe someone who knows can chime it), but I believe making a separate small ext3 partition for your apps (something like 1-2GB) on your SD card helps out with speed of apps stored on there using link2sd.