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[Q] APPS2SD on Fresh 3.2.0.0 (Froyo)

I've done a search on the forums here, and haven't been able to come to a solid answer on this... I went completely App crazy and ended up almost filling my Evo's internal Storage. I used sdmove to move whatever apps supported move to SD over to the SD card. Now I have about 68mb of storage left, but I feel like that too will run out quickly.
Will APPS2SD allow me to move apps that don't nativly support Froyo's Move to SD over to the SD card? Would it have any ill effects on the phone?
If it's safe to set up, how would I go about setting APPS2SD up? Do I just partition the card with an ext partition via RA recovery?

DeMiNe0 said:
I've done a search on the forums here, and haven't been able to come to a solid answer on this... I went completely App crazy and ended up almost filling my Evo's internal Storage. I used sdmove to move whatever apps supported move to SD over to the SD card. Now I have about 68mb of storage left, but I feel like that too will run out quickly.
Will APPS2SD allow me to move apps that don't nativly support Froyo's Move to SD over to the SD card? Would it have any ill effects on the phone?
If it's safe to set up, how would I go about setting APPS2SD up? Do I just partition the card with an ext partition via RA recovery?
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that is correct. after you partition your sd card go into terminal emulator and type a2sd check. It will tell you if it is working. Next type a2sd help. That will show you all the commands and descriptions
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Also you can move the davlink cache too the sd card and that frees up a lot of space too.
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stangdriverdoug said:
Also you can move the davlink cache too the sd card and that frees up a lot of space too.
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How does one go about doing that?

DeMiNe0 said:
How does one go about doing that?
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Type "a2sd help". This will give u a list of all commands that apps2d has to offer. Type "a2sd cachesd" to move David to your SD partition.
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OK, so I enabled ap2sd, and moved the cache over to SD. WOW, that gave alot of space. Before I moved the cache, I also noticed that my space boosted up to over 200mb. Does this mean all my apps were allready moved over to the SDCard? If so, does that also mean that all my apps will be installed to the SDcard from now on?
I just wanna make sure that I don't manually need to move them, and If I do, I need to figure out how I do that. ap2sd help didn't tell me how to manually move apps, so I am assuming its all done automatically now.

DeMiNe0 said:
OK, so I enabled ap2sd, and moved the cache over to SD. WOW, that gave alot of space. Before I moved the cache, I also noticed that my space boosted up to over 200mb. Does this mean all my apps were allready moved over to the SDCard? If so, does that also mean that all my apps will be installed to the SDcard from now on?
I just wanna make sure that I don't manually need to move them, and If I do, I need to figure out how I do that. ap2sd help didn't tell me how to manually move apps, so I am assuming its all done automatically now.
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Bumping this thread. I'd like to know that answer to your question as well.

The apps are moved automatically....also there are commands that will move the apps from the sd card to int. Memory And back If you choose. And finally you can type in a2sd diskspace and and it will tell you the amount of space being used in the partition.
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[Q] Xperia Arc Rom memory or internal Memory

As we all know Xperia Arc has 380MB Rom memory or internal Memory
and we know that apps install on internal memory
i am reading on a web site that when we transfer apps to SD card it not transfer all the data and some data remain in internal memory....
it is True........
if yes then can it is fixed
so that we can able to free arc internal memory ??????????
please help me ??????????????????????????

zohaib0001 said:
As we all know Xperia Arc has 380MB Rom memory or internal Memory
and we know that apps install on internal memory
i am reading on a web site that when we transfer apps to SD card it not transfer all the data and some data remain in internal memory....
it is True........
if yes then can it is fixed
so that we can able to free arc internal memory ??????????
please help me ??????????????????????????
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Not all apps installs do internal memory. Some end up at the SD by default and many of those that installs to the internal can be moved to the SD.
A tiny part will be left on the internal memory but this really should not be an issue for you. You can have tons of apps.
Use the phone as u want and see where u end up at

Also "the tiny part which will be left on the ROM" will have around 1MB

i'm looking on this matter now, so i'm waiting to root my phone and clear some unused application, to clear my ROM

so how can we move apps on sd card

zohaib0001 said:
so how can we move apps on sd card
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Head to Settings->Applications->Installed applications and find the app u want to move to SD. Click it and click "Move to memorycard"
Not all apps can be moved this way tho but it helps a bit!

yes there is the option to move them to sd card but it not apply to all apps
is there any software app who can move every thing to sd card then please tell
thank for your time sharing with this post..........

It's prossible to do a 'full' apps2sd if you have a rooted phone and a specially partitioned SD card, but i havent tried it on the arc so dunno if it will actually work.
I dont know why you really need to do this though. The root method i mention above was popular before 2.2 added built in apps2sd, particularly on older phones with small amounts of internal storage, but since android 2.2 there really isnt much point. I've got *tons* of apps installed on my arc, and still have more than half the space left.
There doesnt appear to be a massive thread describing how to get full apps2sd working for a rooted arc, the reason for this is because nobody really needs it. What are you trying to do that needs this?

be careful some apps wont work when their on your sd that why you can't move them.
for example don't move your launcher app ( when using one ) and don't move apps if you use a widget from the app ( or the app is a used widget )

depulle87 said:
be careful some apps wont work when their on your sd that why you can't move them.
for example don't move your launcher app ( when using one ) and don't move apps if you use a widget from the app ( or the app is a used widget )
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I had the same issue as the OP..
I had install many apps, and then there is warning that my memory is low
I already installed app2sd and moved some apps to sd, but not all apps can be moved.
Is it possible to use an EXT partition on sd as an internal memory?
This trick is common in HD2 world (when using NANDROID).
I havent tried it with my Arc because it is unrooted.
If anyone has tried it, please share it with us
Thanks and cheers ...

I place all my apps too the internal storage. It's easy and there is enough space on the phone

[Q] Internal-External Memory Swap: useful or not?

Hi
I have a Samsung Galaxy W, and you know that this device has such a little memory for apps and games.
I bought a 16 gb class 10 external sd and I was wonder if the memory swap mod could be a really useful operation.
I'm not usual to install lots of applications and games, (I really use only social apps) however sometimes I like to play some heavy-data games. So I need a help: do you suggest me to keep the sd as a default external memory, maybe trying to move the heavier apps in this external space with link2sd and other stuff, or it would be better to make the swap and then make the sd recognized as internal memory?
I read that sometimes the swap operation causes lags and some other stuff, so I need your opinions and suggests.
Thanks in advice

Some custom ROMs automatically swap /sdcard/ with /sdcard/external_sd/
You could try that, it's a great solution IMHO.
Did you try "GL to SD(root)"? Download it from the market... It just mount the external SD as the sdcard, but temporarily. And it also moves game data to external SD.
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Also bugs me as well. I just bought 32gb class 10 card and i am using cow bionic 2 rom. But i already changed the vold.fstab folder back to stock. I would be the same not a heavy app storer. If i dont use the app any more i delete it.
But supposedly if you have a class 10 card you should not experience any lag if you have the swap done?? How true this is i dont know

maybe i'll find this useful for heavy data games like generation of chaos or other apps/games that install themselves on the internal storage and not on the sd card, other than that, i seriously don't know what other advantage it can provide

Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.

yewsiong said:
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??

snwman said:
Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??
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Yes, class 10 is the fastest writing speed for MicroSD at this moment.
I used script manager to create a script for mounting and give it SU and set it on boot. It is very simple.
Create a new script file and type the following:
(I used the Android folder as example)
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/Android sdcard/Android
This is for gameloft
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/gameloft sdcard/gameloft
After creating these, u need to cut the files in Android or gameloft from internal sdcard and paste them to the new location on external sd. Leave the original folders empty.
Remember to set them "boot" and "su".
enjoy
Edit: if u download any other games that stores its data in Android folder, it will automatically move to ur external sd card as the script has mounted the path to external sd since every boot.

yewsiong said:
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
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But, in a swap situation, on the Wonder, Apps are not moved to External SD Card........
without swap they are moved to /sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure folder
with swap, moved Apps should be on re-mapped internal SD, so removing SD Card should not have any effect on Apps...
of course App Data should be on External [Removable] SD Card...re-mapped as /sdcard
It seems to me, for game players, Game Loft, etc.....Gl to SD is the ideal solution....****see also EDIT below****
Video for Wonder Here:
****EDIT: Just to say, yewsiong script looks good for gamers, etc.....****

It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.

saphiecor said:
It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.
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Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here

irishpancake said:
Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here
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I think he meant without swapping, external sd can still be used as data, music, pics, etc. storage.

Go for it!
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...

a.fontenele said:
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...
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Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.

[.::MDT::.] said:
Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.
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Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...

a.fontenele said:
Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...
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Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.

[.::MDT::.] said:
Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.
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But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!

First of all, thanks a lot for your answer!
irishpancake said:
But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
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Yep, that's exactly what I would like to have!
I bought a 16GB card to install many maps and games, but I quickly ran out of memory so I cannot add anymore apps (without removing already installed apps of course).
That's why I would like to use my SD card for apps - if possible of course!
And it's a pity I have 15GB free (for what? Just my music/video/pictures?) and I cannot use this space for apps.
What are the other ways to achieve this you mentioned?
It'd be really helpful!
irishpancake said:
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Yes, I found the same instructions on this forum, you're right...

hmm
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:

irishpancake said:
But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Dhada said:
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:
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I agree... any news about that then?
Thanks a lot!

[Q] storage help

Hello I am looking for a Rom or whatever that would make my sd card the phone storage instead the 500mb u get with the phone

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There are a couple of apps that can do it they basically just link to your external try directory binder
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.

Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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What you are asking is impossible, you can´t make bigger the space of you´re phone, using the sd card.
Allthough you can try to use some applications to move the apps to you're SD, apps like Link2Sd(You need root) or more.
Also you can root you´re mobile and use titanium backup to delete apps you don´t need and you can´t remove,normally, but attention, if you remove some apps you´re phone can stop working.
I hope i helped!

If you have unlocked bootloader, you can flash Lupus GB kernel. It have 640MB data partition. And with the help of Link2SD (to move as much apps as you can to SD) it should be enough for some time
You could also partition SD card so apps2sd or link2sd can use it expand storage but is somehow harder to setup. You might check http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning

Frenkel said:
hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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Are you rooted? If so get titanium backup pro (it's worth the $6 or $7). There's an option for moving dalvik-cache to /cache in there. Depending on phone, you can free up 80-100 MB of space by doing this. Here is the manual method, but it may not work on a lot of devices. Lack of space on these phones was my driving force for rooting it. I'm not certain about this (maybe someone who knows can chime it), but I believe making a separate small ext3 partition for your apps (something like 1-2GB) on your SD card helps out with speed of apps stored on there using link2sd.

[Q] Apps to External SD

I know there are many devices out there which don't allow this, but is there a workaround to get this working on my LG G Pad 8.3?
My device is rooted.
16gb is just not enough memory these days to have all the apps and games you want on the device at the same time. i have a 64gb external card and would love to use this space for app data.
I know there is a workaround where you can move the data you need to the external card and move it back when you want to use the app but in this day and age it seems ridiculous to have to do that!
any help would be greatly appreciated

nk33 said:
I know there are many devices out there which don't allow this, but is there a workaround to get this working on my LG G Pad 8.3?
My device is rooted.
16gb is just not enough memory these days to have all the apps and games you want on the device at the same time. i have a 64gb external card and would love to use this space for app data.
I know there is a workaround where you can move the data you need to the external card and move it back when you want to use the app but in this day and age it seems ridiculous to have to do that!
any help would be greatly appreciated
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Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.

clemson77on said:
Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.
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ok, I just installed that.
It shows NFS Most Wanted (for example) as movable. When I click "move to sd card" i get the message "App2SD is not supported by your device. Because your device has a primary external storage whcih is emulated from the internal storage. You can link the app in order to move its files to your sd card."
so i click ok to that, go back to my list of apps, long press on the app and click "create link" and it gives me the following message "secondary partition not found. make sure you have 2 partitions on your sd card and both are primary"
...now i dont know what to do...sorry

nk33 said:
ok, I just installed that.
It shows NFS Most Wanted (for example) as movable. When I click "move to sd card" i get the message "App2SD is not supported by your device. Because your device has a primary external storage whcih is emulated from the internal storage. You can link the app in order to move its files to your sd card."
so i click ok to that, go back to my list of apps, long press on the app and click "create link" and it gives me the following message "secondary partition not found. make sure you have 2 partitions on your sd card and both are primary"
...now i dont know what to do...sorry
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I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459

clemson77on said:
I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
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ok, looks like I am gonna have to find some spare time to do this.
Not sure why anyone would want to restrict you to use Internal memory only on their device as it only makes it worth less....
Will this change naturally when an official 4.4.2 is released for this device?
Thanks for all your help

nk33 said:
ok, looks like I am gonna have to find some spare time to do this.
Not sure why anyone would want to restrict you to use Internal memory only on their device as it only makes it worth less....
Will this change naturally when an official 4.4.2 is released for this device?
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I have no idea. From what I hear, apps won't perform quite as good if they're on the external storage. If that's the case, they may be afraid that it will ruin the user experience. I just put apps that don't demand a ton of performance on my SD card so I can't verify if that's true.
But I like choices, so I wish they'd make it easier with a notice that performance may suffer or something. Also, Google is behind Android, and they want you storing data in the cloud, not on your device. That's why none of the Nexus devices have external storage.

clemson77on said:
I have no idea. From what I hear, apps won't perform quite as good if they're on the external storage. If that's the case, they may be afraid that it will ruin the user experience. I just put apps that don't demand a ton of performance on my SD card so I can't verify if that's true.
But I like choices, so I wish they'd make it easier with a notice that performance may suffer or something. Also, Google is behind Android, and they want you storing data in the cloud, not on your device. That's why none of the Nexus devices have external storage.
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well storing data in the cloud is fine as long as its not data thats needed to run apps. one step forward 2 steps back!
this device is perfect (and IMO the best in its size at the moment) apart from 2 things
1) this sd issue right here
2) they should have given it an AMOLED screed instead of LCD

clemson77on said:
Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.
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Do you have to be rooted for this app to work?

allbroncos said:
Do you have to be rooted for this app to work?
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Yes

clemson77on said:
I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
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ok, I found some time to sit down and do this, but before I got started I had a quick read of the instructions.
Am I correct in saying that the maximum I can make this partition to install apps on is 2gb? If that is the case then its not even worth doing as my card is 64gb...
......Ooooor is it the case that the 1st partition has to be 2gb but i can use the rest of the card to install apps??
thanks in advance

nk33 said:
ok, I found some time to sit down and do this, but before I got started I had a quick read of the instructions.
Am I correct in saying that the maximum I can make this partition to install apps on is 2gb? If that is the case then its not even worth doing as my card is 64gb...
......Ooooor is it the case that the 1st partition has to be 2gb but i can use the rest of the card to install apps??
thanks in advance
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That's not the case on mine.

clemson77on said:
That's not the case on mine.
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i am referring to the link you gave me. the instructions state not to make the partition larger than 2gb.

FolderMount is more what you want. It does not require a special format, and it moves the data which is what really takes up the space. For example Bards Tale has over 3.5GB of data, and it moves ALL of that. The applications themselves hardly take up any space. It even survives rom updates like updating CM11 nightlies for example. I uninstalled Link2SD. It didn't move much, and caused problems when I did ROM updates.

C0BRA01 said:
FolderMount is more what you want. It does not require a special format, and it moves the data which is what really takes up the space. For example Bards Tale has over 3.5GB of data, and it moves ALL of that. The applications themselves hardly take up any space. It even survives rom updates like updating CM11 nightlies for example. I uninstalled Link2SD. It didn't move much, and caused problems when I did ROM updates.
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C0BRA01 you are a legend!!
Tried, tested and confirm working on my V500 with NFS Most Wanted!!
One thing i noticed though is that the program "Disk Usage" still picks it up as data on device even though it is not there. Used SD card analyst in ES File explorer with root permissions and data is not on device.
This is fantastic!! i now have a potential 64gb of space!!