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With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
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Hatman41 said:
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?
I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386
Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.
lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.
does anyone know if unrevoked 3.21 will work for an Evo that just got the new OTA Update?
ivanhouston10 said:
does anyone know if unrevoked 3.21 will work for an Evo that just got the new OTA Update?
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Nope. I'm sure it will be announced when the newest OTA is rooted. Just hold tight.
WOW... really? this last OTA closed the hole that was most recently exposed?
So a new root method is going to be needed again for new handsets?
I really hope not... we are gonna have to re-open the whiner threads again.
Are you kidding me? Damn.
I was just about to root my phone from Unrevoked!
I just I gotta wait again.
Anyone help?
Sent from my HTC EVO
ivanhouston10 said:
does anyone know if unrevoked 3.21 will work for an Evo that just got the new OTA Update?
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If you have turned S-OFF use this guide or if you have not updated unrevoke forever to turn S-OFF then use the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790394
If you have not turned S-OFF and have already updated then wait for unrevoked to say if it is working or not.
EDIT
Unrevoked tweeted this
Confirmed: This OTA will undo your root, but unrEVOked 3.21 will be able to restore it.
Source
http://twitter.com/unrevoked
quick question what does s on and off mean??
ok so its confirmed that unrevoked 3.21 will root new OTA Update. But will root bring down the new PRI 1.77
I was rooted with unrevoked before the update. I updated and am still rooted. The only problem I had was updating OTA. I had to flash the new update from recovery. I think doing this then remove clockwork and SU. So I reinstalled both after flashing the update. I read how to do this in a different post (also had links to clockwork and SU).
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Hi
Can you please explain how did you flash the new update from recovery?
Or i would appreciate if you could point to the thread that describes where can i get the official update to flash? (and steps involved)?
thank you
Hi, today I wanted to root my Desire using Unrevoked method, before that I installed latest Desire updates (because of new radio) then I tried unrevoked and it says "Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?".
Is it because of updates?
going by what youve quoted i think youve answered your own question
regards
I just want confirmation that it's happening to everyone , not just me
What ROM are you on at the mo?
ehm... stock 2.2 rom thats why i want root
EddyOS said:
What ROM are you on at the mo?
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Tomaco said:
ehm... stock 2.2 rom thats why i want root
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I'll guess he's on the same version as me, with kernel 2.6.31.15 and build 2.29.405.5.
I used unrEVOked 3.32 and it successfully rooted it -- apparently. However, it wouldn't manage to get root the second time when I tried to reflash it, nor actually push the custom recovery.
su _seems_ to work, but I am unable to do any backup (with the "Error while dumping boot image" being the error message) of the stock ROM.
unrEVOked worked fine for me on that version, use 3.31 and flashed AmonRA as opposed to CWM
EddyOS said:
unrEVOked worked fine for me on that version, use 3.31 and flashed AmonRA as opposed to CWM
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Well, tra la la. It seems odd that it being 3.31 should have anything to do with it, but I tried it again now (4th attempt) and it managed to both root (more successfully this time?) and flash it with CWM 3.0.0.5 - which has worked splendidly, now I can actually do nandroid backups.
Tomaco said:
Hi, today I wanted to root my Desire using Unrevoked method, before that I installed latest Desire updates (because of new radio) then I tried unrevoked and it says "Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?".
Is it because of updates?
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just read another thread where this has happened to someone else but i dont think he had just updated before he tried
regards
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.
Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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Epic Fail.
lol unrevoked has not came up with new version of root for last ota. dude it just came out yesterday try diffident methods
teh roxxorz said:
This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.
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Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?
Stuke00 said:
Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?
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RUUing to an older version of what you have could brick your phone. The new update has a new bootloader so you are pretty much screwed until somebody comes up with a way to root it.
If he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter. If he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it
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Epic Fail.
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Nope not really. I love to play around and try things out for myself. Best way for me to learn things. No big deal if I don't get root right now. I'll figure out something.
kingakuma said:
if he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter if he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it
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I do have S-OFF still.
Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!
You're welcome, i hope that makes things easier
Stuke00 said:
Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!
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Well I guess you're lucky then. Try flashing a rom, that should set you on the right path.
Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something
Odexed and Deodexed uploading as we speak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?
Wifflepig said:
Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?
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Just flash the rooted version... although like everyone else, you'll probably update OTA anyway thinking it's easier and run into the same problems as everyone else.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
HipKat said:
All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something
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Lot of ignorant people too apparently. I knew the consequences and possibilities. And I was also able to get my root back. And I learned some new things. Not everything has to be so negative
DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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I actually wasn't complaining. I was asking if anyone had success rooting the 2.3 update. I could have been doing something wrong or missed a step.
Thanks for your feedback!
DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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Why would someone with 7 posts, that's been a member for a few days want to believe people who read and post here everyday and stay on top of things???
Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
Bruinfanjb said:
Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
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If you were not rooted and had S-OFF before you installed the update, then no there is no way to downgrade now. I imagine there will be a new root method for Gingerbread, but nobody knows when that will happen.
Jeff
actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
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actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
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Yes, I mean if you were not rooted and had S-ON then you would not be able to root again until there was a fix. My mistake.
I think the rollout should be completed by the end of the week. The original rollout in August was going to take a week to complete.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
Bruinfanjb said:
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
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You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
I'm not going to specifically point anything out, but If you search around for posts you should be able to find something. I know there's a few posts about it because that's the only think I found when I was searching.
EDIT: looks like someone beat me to the reply, check out Zoon0n's reply.
Zoon0n said:
You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
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Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
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Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
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If you don't have the Superuser app in your app drawer, you aren't rooted. You'll need to flash a recovery using HBOOT, and naming the zip PB31IMG.zip method.
Get it from Doug Piston:
http://dougpiston.com/?page_id=85
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