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donut for hero?

Hi all, are there any Android donut ROMs for the HTC hero? I know there are some for some other android phone but are there any ports for the hero ?

If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.

Sykow said:
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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There was no need for that kind of reply...

Sorry for asking.

xcxgottix said:
Sorry for asking.
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lol! well i too am just wondering why there has not been a rom for the phone yet!
Yeah i hear the "its only been out for a month" but seriuosly??? the magic had roms before that but just by looking at the hero forums there doesnt seem anyone to be working on cooking roms..

exactly my point minogue, i know it might be tough to make the ROMs but its not like it can't be done

Well the phone has been rooted already.
However many people rooted their magic and g1 to install the htc Hero rom. And I guess since we have an HTC Hero, developers are not interested in making roms or optiming the current HTC Hero Rom.

yea well I still dont understand why they wouldnt want to optimize the hero its supposed to be the best android phone yet wouldn't they want to play around with it and see what they can make out of it?

Well hopefully HTC will release an update soon. It's said to be released within next months.

yea at least the update is out soon so I guess well all just have to wait

as i have said before
i too find it very strange that no chef is on board with us hero users
as we all know the chefs like to come/be first.....and we have nobody
unless the HTC update is all we need

Yeah, i was kinda hoping Cyanogen would get himself a Hero and start optimizing the ROM to improves speed, along with maybe some extra Donut features.
But i think the problem with the Hero's Sense UI is that it's not open source and so you're not allowed to tweak or mess with it. Only the underlying Android is open source and so may be meddled with and distributed.

Cobblers! Windows mobile is not open source and that's been getting cooked for years!
The main reason i reckon is because we already have what everyone wants....that's why the roms are all adding Hero stuff to the Magic.
They'll be here soon enough, in the meantime, be happy with the fact that you have what everyone else wants...!

I believe that Paul from Modaco is going to be cooking soon.
He's already posted stock unbranded and branded ROM's and mentioned cooking up a ROM with new Sense UI stuff soon.
I hope it's True. Paul's bits on using recovery image has already got me rooting and doing nandroid backups etc (I supplied the stock t_mobile rom to him as a result)

I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.

AndoMarc said:
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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Yep, nothing much out there yet.
If we do get people working on speed improvements/optimisations then that will be great. Back on my touch HD some of the roms were very slick.
Sense UI upgrades are main thing, along with new versions of Android itself. We'll probaly get them faster as rom's here than official upgrades

AndoMarc said:
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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You wouldnt want to customize something that is allready very good? If I could I would optimize it so its even greater than It Is. But that's just me I guess other people dobt wabt to make something that Is great greater

I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself

Biffert said:
I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.

barryallott said:
Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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The donut stuff came from a developer release by Google. Its not from another phone.

Desire will get gingerbread OTA update :D

hey guys seems like HTC is keeping the spirit up and giving the Desire a gingerbread OTA update by the end of june
not that our devs haven't already got gingerbread on it but like this we will have HTC sense the right way it's supposed to
check one of engadget's latest posts ull see

Ding ding ding.
Number 6, enjoy your short moment of fame.
Remember you have to share it with a increasing group of people who post stuff that has been posed before.

Search for a post next time instead of creating a post that has already been created about 10 times already. Seriously, no wonder why coutts left this forum. Full of idiots.

Yeah, but you could have said this in a much friendly way...

That was nice. No but seriously, I was in a **** mood and seriously, people should read more. Personally, I go through the forums and search to find stuff and I read an awful lot of posts (quite sad to be honest). It just gets on my nerves sometimes.

Been on Oxygen for a few weeks and frankly exchanging Sense for 300MB of onboard (not SD) app space is worth the loss of Sense. Using dialer1 and handcent and a bundle of other neat apps is great. Also have double the battery life that I had either 2.2 Stock Sense

oursoul, why do you insist on posting that very same line/paragraph/sales pitch on every single new thread that is popping up regarding the *ahem* "latest" news of Gingerbread OTA.
Bumping up your post count?

Did you find a replacement to take the "Notes" info from gmail contacts and link them all together which sense does? Thats the only reason in holding on TBH

It`s been official now, I`am reading on some site.

I prefer the Sense Dialer so dont like any of the current stock ROMs, so will wait patiently for the OTA.
Any better similar ones, that has contacts pics and facebook integration?

did anyone hear the leaked android 2.3.2 Galaxy S release?
I'll be disappointed if the Galaxy S gets a gingerbread update before the Desire... HTC will be slipping if that happens!

You know the drill mate.. the update will roll out.. it will be filled with bugs.. rants all over the place about how Sammy manages to make ****ty firmwares and then out of nowhere HTC will pop the update for us making the Desire again the first non developer device that gets the newest Android itteration
Or something along those lines.. I hope..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

what will be funny is that by time June/July has come and we our 2.3 update, there is no doubt 2.5 (2.6) will have been announced and we'll all want that version instead.
Hopefully we'll atleast get the updated Sense with the update.

if Samsung roll out 2.3.2 then I hope HTC roll out 2.3.3 at least
also I would like them to fix the htc mail client too so it works with hotmail eas...

It's going to be annoying in 2.3 that you can't link Google contacts with Facebook ones, that was one of the things I missed when using Gingerbread ROMS. Looking forward to going back to an official ROM though whenever it's released.

I've been using the DevNull Rom, which is supposed to be a stock Android Rom, since yesterday.
HTC Sense is definitely more user friendly and intuitive....... has a lot more features too.
However, I find it to be quite unstable and kills the battery pretty quickly, and let's not forget the stupid apps like stock and peep.
Coming from HTC Sense, stock Android takes a while to get used to but I'm glad I made the switch 'cause my phone is a lot more stable now and the battery life has improved considerably.

oursoul said:
Nah I was just having a giggle, making a point.
No harm done eh.
I dont need to bump my post count, that's just ridiculous.
Sorry to offend
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a)partition tables are not related to this thread
b)what you are pointing out is just plain ridiculous. There is definitely no point in getting 300mb of internal space when a decent SD card outperforms nand. You can't fit use other roms either which are meant to be used with large caches, and you could brick your device.
Oh, and c) you don't get any of the aosp bugs either
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

How many of you think the 2.3 update may bring the latest Sense Along with it.
it is quite possible I think !! but then .. we could get the same one too :\

jackie_jagger said:
How many of you think the 2.3 update may bring the latest Sense Along with it.
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I expect same Sense version, but hope for the newer one

@Erklat: what aosp bugs are you talking about? I'm thinking about flashing oxygen because it is said to be bugfree.
I am almost certain that HTC's Desire gingerbread Rom will use the old sense version. Nandspace is simply too small. HD -ROMs only work because of high use of A2SD and HTC can't use that on official ROMs.
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OFFICIAL Gingerbread Sense *MIGHT* have the new Sense UI

Hey!
Today, I was doing some surfing, and came across the Sense SDK/HTCdev page on the web. It's already been covered on the forums, however I think that there may be a slight hint there as to what the new Gingerbread ROM on the Desire will include:
http://www.htcdev.com/about/
If you look at the Desire in the greyish box down the page, you will clearly see the Sense UI running in the image is the new version that is found on the Gingerbread Sense devices.
This could be one of two things:
1. A little hint as to the features of the Gingerbread ROM
2. A mistake in the Photoshop department
I'm hoping it's number one, but IMHO I think it will turn out to be number two, what with the leaked HTC Asia ROM having the FroYo Sense UI... but anyhow, let's wait and see!
What do you think?
Thanks!
-Cameron

This seems like a photoshop mistake. They just fit in a screenshot of the Sense UI they got laying around and fit it in a press shot of the HTC Desire.
But.. (there's always a but)
It somehow would make sense that they upgraded the Sense version of the Desire to 2.1 (or something similar). In the leaked Asia builds, you could find some features that were only found on Sense 2.1 + every single phone in the Desire "family" is running 2.1.
Also, remember HTC saying that there wasn't enough internal space on the Desire for Gingerbread + Sense? Yeah well, those leaked Asia updates, they had Sense + GB, didn't they? And as far as I know, that ROM was about the same size as a FroYo stock ROM.
My guess is that they were slowly porting Sense 2.1 to the Desire, feature by feature and at some point, someone said "this is going to slow, we're having more issues than planned, this is going to cost us more money and time than we planned", so naturally, HTC pulled the plug, until the community went nuts and screamed rape and fire. Sooo, they're now settling for a dirty solution: ditch some apps from the system partition, which can be found on the market.
What I can't seem to think of is why they wouldn't stick with the regular Sense that we have right now, mixed with GB. It would've been easier and less time consuming.
This is just a sequence of thoughts that I have concerning this update, don't go believing me or telling me that I'm wrong, I'm just thinking out loud, sharing my perspective

Thanks for that. I'm hoping that you're wrong though, because I'd like to get Sense 2.1 without ports but that's me, greedy as always

HTC doesn't do "porting" as many of the dev's here on XDA do, they got the source code so they only need to compile a Sense 2.1 version for the HTC Desire Which was what I meant with porting.
I'm hoping for a Sense 2.1 update as well, since I like Sense 2.1 far more than Sense 3 (based on what I've seen, tried and read) but I'm not getting my hopes up.. Time will tell ^^

No, by ports I meant that the new Desire update wouldn't be ported, so there would be no incompatibilities. Hope thats what you meant just

Hi, i'm also hope that Desire will get sense 2.1, in Poland we sometimes say that "the hope is the mother of the stupid people" after translation of course but maybe this time it will be different ;p
BTW. Official ROM's are theoretically 100% bugfree, but practically may be different or devs are making better functionality ROM
Regards
Sent from my Desire using Tapatalk

This was discussed weeks ago when the HTC Dev site first came online - I reckon it's a Photoshop personally

pavel54 said:
Hi, i'm also hope that Desire will get sense 2.1, in Poland we sometimes say that "the hope is the mother of the stupid people" after translation of course but maybe this time it will be different ;p
BTW. Official ROM's are theoretically 100% bugfree, but practically may be different or devs are making better functionality ROM
Regards
Sent from my Desire using Tapatalk
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But, as all mothers, she loves her children

Doubt it...
Probably justa an original sense with gingerbread... they seem to have problems with speed using sense 3

Bartyzel said:
But, as all mothers, she loves her children
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right /// hehe dokładnie
@flavio.moringa - it's clear that we will not see sense 3.0 because it's reserved for Sensation / more expensive HTC models or newer models as it provides a logical marketing policy
but 2.1 would be a very positive surprise...

Want to remind you..

Hey guys,
As you have probably noticed, the development at the desire has quite "stopped"
Many devs are really "busy" and others have abandoned the desire.
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
I personally think it's time to move on to a next device.
What you guys think?
Will there come more desire devs? or will this be the "end"?
Bout kernels: Once they told us, when open source kernel is released, the desire will be muchhhhh better, but I personally think there hasn't change much!
Kernels are still not as they should be, 1 kernel got lockscreen lag or batt drain, others freeze. Know what imsaying?
I'm not saying the devs are that bad, but this is the end to me I think.
Share you'r opinion below!
//
Nick

I couldn't agree more!

nickislauw said:
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
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Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?

rootSU said:
Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?
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kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$

nickislauw said:
kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$
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ooooh 1 whole month ago. Actually I am working on a build now but quality is more important to me than getting out updates every 2 days.
But to say there are only 2 devs working on the desire is completely wrong and I find your posts not only offensive but also inaccurate and counter productive.
Edit> Also forgot to mention Droidzone and Sibere, then all the kernel devs. not all devs build roms.
And Kali- is a dev,. he doesn't just "post builds" if you look at his git hub you can see his commits,.
Worst thread ever!

Well I see it more dimensional:
1. Sense: it seems like really slowed down a bit, but on the other hand Sense 3.5 was available very quickly. Dridzone is also contributing here (piety he resists newer Sense for now).
2. ASOP: CM7 + bunch of other ROMs - well CM is stable, rest is fluctuating (for me it is only CM that seems interesting)
3. MIUI: active
Actually now is the time to wait for ICS sourcecode to enable further milestone. I guess Sense will decrease in popularity with ICS based CM9 released. For me the only thing thet stops me from CM7 as daily are Exchange ActiveSync issues.
Piety that for few days now both Coolexe and michelm_007 remain silent. Anyway DHD seems to be the main driver of HTC community - Desire seems to rather follow, not drive progress (in matter of new sense porting). Tha is basically due to small internal memory that is the main step to consider when porting some new ROMS. The speed issue due to obsolete platform (CPU/GPU) is also stronger here from DHD, so it really is the fade out period for the Sense on Desire. Next Sense will most likely be even more difficult to be run smoothly...

Sense will gain popularity again when Sense 4.0 on top of Android 4.0 D) will be released.

Dont see that running on the trusty Desire though

RootSU,
I didn't want to be rude,
But I think you understand that this desire community isn't how its supposed to be.
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
It's not completely dead but its silent here in the rom section.
Hope you understand my point

I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

nickislauw said:
RootSU,
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
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How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.

zedmarcus said:
How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.
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Cmon read the whole thread man!

rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.

nickislauw said:
Cmon read the whole thread man!
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I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.

nickislauw said:
Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.
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isnt it logical that people move on to new devices, including the devs? no point stating the obvious in a thread here... just stick with whats left of the desire community, start developing yourself or abandon ship and go for a newer device... you should at least be thankful for all that has been done for our awesome device so far...
*note* im not bashing you in any way, its just that i think the way you wrote the OP is pointless. you can move on to a Nexus device where the development doesnt stop till the devs faint from working overtime...
Sent from the infinity and beyond...

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I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.
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What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?

rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.

Terepin said:
He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.
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This. I even flashed AuraxTSense again for a brief period before changing ship to aosp because of this.
It is only natural that people continue developing elsewhere, depending on where they upgraded. You can't expect them to support old device like you can't expect from HTC. Neither party involved has superhuman abilities, so I can't say anything but great thanks for making Desire more pleasurable to use than it already was.
The thing that concerns me are the reasons both Neophyte and AdamG went. Rapid deterioration of community and quality of information available in the period of last 12 months. Both these great devs went explicitly because of that (one for good and one to his respective forum).

Terepin said:
What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?
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lolz... Terepin trying to make up for his small weiner again

Oh no this all cant be true! I have finally rooted and put my first rom on.....only took me about 18 months. Ah well, a few months time and it will be upgrade time. Still, for me it seems so new.

[Q] If if if DHD ICS update is released...

Does that mean all the issues with current ICS based ROMs on the DZ will be able to be resolved completely?
Or will it just affect the camera related problems?
Also will CM team then release an official DZ release?
I only ask because it seems like the DHD guys are making some progress with HTC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30099204&postcount=731
Cheers guys.

Well IF (and that's a pretty big IF considering that we've had plenty of headway with camera stuff on the DZ/G2 end) they were to actually release for example full sources and such it would probably aid to the camera.
However on the DZ/G2 side we already got the andreno libs and such from them over a week ago, it's... complicated.
and PS: the link you provided isn't what I'd call "progress", until we actually see something from HTC. Remember this is the same company that 'confirmed' on 4 or 5 separate instances that the DesireHD was getting ICS from them and to not worry, only to all the sudden not get it.

I wasn't aware that HTC had released new libraries for the device, hope everyone can put them to good use.
Yeah maybe no official progress but you have to commend them for their effort so far.

raiamino said:
I wasn't aware that HTC had released new libraries for the device, hope everyone can put them to good use.
Yeah maybe no official progress but you have to commend them for their effort so far.
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It's already incorporated as best as can be into the Andromadus branch that I know of and just bout any rom that kangs off that. (getting it going on JB is still a different story since they're meant for ICS).

What I saw is that the most recent quarterly earning reminded HTC that they actually need to keep their customer happy to get the hard earned money.
Even though I am sure I won't buy HTC again until they show some real commitment to update their devices, keep pressuring the heck out of them is a good idea so just tell me if there's another petition.