I'm loving my dinc. The things I don't like are the invisible screen in daylight and the lack of full duplex on the phone. These are 2 major pains in the butt.
1- Can anyone tell me how the new s-lcd screens compare with the amoled?
2- Is it possible to get full duplex?
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1- Can anyone tell me how the new s-lcd screens compare with the amoled?
2- Is it possible to get full duplex?
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1. As sites recently have said view compare to about the same. But I can't tell you first hand as mind is amolled.
2. Full duplex is available. Every time you make a call. That is duplexing. The process of sending and receiving information simultaneously. What we want is multiplexing. And as for that I don't know. It could be software, but more likely it's built right into the phone, or that Verizon refuses to multiplex
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Thanks for clearing up that terminology. When I use my mic my speaker cuts out. I thought full duplex meant you could use mic and speaker simultaneously. Sounds like your saying that is multiplexing. I don't remember having this problem with my Razr. I was with ATT then also. Maybe this more CDMA bullsh** like no voice and data at the same time.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Verizon stops the multiplexing of both voice and data. I think its bull also but unless they change it were probably sol.
My speaker cuts out a lil when using speaker phone.
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Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
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Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
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you can talk while people are talking to you during normal voice conversations, but why in the h377 would you want to do that , and how would you even test that, during a phone call on speaker phone?
are you trying to go Alec Baldwin on somebody?
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Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
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So you cannot activate speakerphone during a call and have the Mic receive your voice input. That is a problem if so. Are you running a custom ROM. If you are, you should report it to the maker. If you are running stock ROM Idk could be software or hardware. Has this problem existed since you acquired the phone?
Never heard of a Verizon network upgrade. Maybe 4g capabilities. Hmmm.
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Actually I noticed it yesterday using the regular mic, not the speakerphone. I was listening to a recorded message and if a spoke it would cut out and then come back when I was quiet. I just tried it again a live call and all is well. Weird. It may have been a transient problem or something that happens with low signal. I thought I just had never noticed it. Neevermind
Sweet. Will you add to the headline [solved]. It makes it easier when in the forums
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Resolved
I will.
Still wondering if I should try to switch to a phone with the newer screen though. Would love to see in the light!
I was kinda wondering about the screen thing myself. SLCD is an IPS panel, similar to what the iPhone 4 offers. I wish there could be an easy way to get the screens changed without having to sell and re-buy, but depending on the difference I may just do that. AMOLED, despite its awesome colors and deep blacks, have too many quirks that I don't like dealing with. Sunlight visibility and sharpness are two of them.
Would love to see some impressions though!
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Just Google surfed. Plenty of comparisons out there. pros and cons for both. For me better visibility in sunlight is important. From what a saw not huge difference there.
I prefer the sharpness of text on the SLCD over OLED
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Never heard of a Verizon network upgrade. Maybe 4g capabilities. Hmmm.
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Nope not 4G, though LTE will be able to handle it for certain. I believe he was talking about the development of SVDO, 3G tech which allows for voice and data to be active at the same time like GSM
Ok. I don't know of one speakerphone that's full-duplex.. I'm not an expert on every speakerphone masse by mankind, but I do know some speakerphones function more pleasant than others... If the speakerphone was full duplex then the caller would here themselves speak.
And in real life that can still happen if the volume is too high.
Nope not 4G, though LTE will be able to handle it for certain. I believe he was talking about the development of SVDO, 3G tech which allows for voice and data to be active at the same time like GSM
Yes. There is a network upgrade available. I think it is am matter of changing cards in the towers.one of it's benefits is simultaneous voice and data.
Here is a little reading on duplexity http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_(telecommunications)?wasRedirected=true.
Of course the speaker it self isn't meant to duplex. The phone it self is duplexd. Hmmm I like the idea of both voice and data at the same time.I'm Gonna have to look into SVDO and LTE technologies
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Currently CDMA does not allow you to use both voice and data at the same time over a 3g connection. The frequency only allows one or the other through, with voice overriding data. If you are on WIFI you can use voice and data at the same time.
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Currently CDMA does not allow you to use both voice and data at the same time over a 3g connection. The frequency only allows one or the other through, with voice overriding data. If you are on WIFI you can use voice and data at the same time.
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As I said, that is no longer true but it requires a network card upgrade at the towers.
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As I said, that is no longer true but it requires a network card upgrade at the towers.
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Any proof?
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Look at this video:
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You can clearly see that, as the guy keeps the hand off the back of the phone, the wifi signal boosts up from zero to 3 bars.
In all the review as well, you can notice that as the reviewer grips the device, the wifi signal goes bad.
Damn it, again, as the Galaxy S2, wifi grip issue.
Thank you Samsung, Aloha Nexus.
There are very few phones that don't do this. To antennas used to be at the top of the device away from your hand, but ever since someone decided phones give you cancer they moved the antennas to the bottom.
I'd rather have cancer and actually get reception.
If we stopped this form over function nonsense the manufacturers could put proper antennas on phones like they used to have. Then this sort of thing wouldn't be a problem.
You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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Skype over wifi ?
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You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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Skype over wifi ?
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You're right.
But are you telling me Samsung is the only company that fights for our health?I've used iPhone 4, Nokia, SE Xperia Arc, and Lg Optimus instead want to kill us? None of those had wifi grips issues.
C'mon. It's simply a wifi issue as it was for the GS2.
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I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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Use a headset?
The 4th Derivative said:
I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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earpiece.
People REALLY shouldnt be holding these plutonium slates to there heads.
A simple case should solve this problem. Not an excuse, nor an apology, by any means but since Samsung can't learn from it's mistakes it'll have to do.
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Look at this video:
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You can clearly see that, as the guy keeps the hand off the back of the phone, the wifi signal boosts up from zero to 3 bars.
In all the review as well, you can notice that as the reviewer grips the device, the wifi signal goes bad.
Damn it, again, as the Galaxy S2, wifi grip issue.
Thank you Samsung, Aloha Nexus.
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Pretty much every phone does this. Are we seriously making this thread right now?
bmstrong said:
A simple case should solve this problem. Not an excuse, nor an apology, by any means but since Samsung can't learn from it's mistakes it'll have to do.
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With my GS2 I've tried different cases (Casemate, silicon ones etc.) but this solved very very little the wifi issue.
It's sad because at work I need wifi as hell, and I was the only one among my colleagues (TBH another one with a HTC Sensation has similar problem using it landscape mode) that has no wifi signal.
Cannot spend 500£ to have such a poor wifi
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Pretty much every phone does this.
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Nope.
martonikaj said:
Are we seriously making this thread right now?
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We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
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You're right.
But are you telling me Samsung is the only company that fights for our health?I've used iPhone 4, Nokia, SE Xperia Arc, and Lg Optimus instead want to kill us? None of those had wifi grips issues.
C'mon. It's simply a wifi issue as it was for the GS2.
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Sorry but I don't see any wifi problem on my GS2. I even tried holding it at a ridiculous way and im still getting strong bars.
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Nope.
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Yes, actually. Phones have antennas they use for WiFi, 3G, 2G, etc.. Covering antennas lowers their ability to transmit and receive. So nearly all phones will have this issue. Crazy idea... Where do you propose they put the antennas so that they transmit properly? do you want pull-out or rubber antennas again?
We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
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No need to be a ****.
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You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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Wifi calling on t-mobile?
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We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
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Lol, that's a nice one...almost fell of the chair laughing.
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Matter blocks radio waves!
News at 11! back in 1945.
Man this is going to suck. I don't know if I can deal with this. This might put me over the top.
None of my phones ever had this. I travel alot and I'm giving up one of my phones (always had a Verizon blackberry and some GSM Smartphone) but I can't go solo with a phone with spotty wifi.
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Man this is going to suck. I don't know if I can deal with this. This might put me over the top.
None of my phones ever had this. I travel alot and I'm giving up one of my phones (always had a Verizon blackberry and some GSM Smartphone) but I can't go solo with a phone with spotty wifi.
LG G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
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I doubt its that bad....like wifi isn't going to comletley die when you grip the thing, you'll just loose a bar or 2.
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Even my n1 has this, it loses a bar, big whoop I couldn't care less about this.
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I just got two:
Samsung Galaxy S II - Titanium from T-mobile (SGH-T989)
Not rooted, etc...But stock, as they come from t-mobile.
Voice quality is pretty bad on those two units. I can hear the other party muffed. I thought they are on speakerphone or talking thru a headset. Then the person with the other S G II noticed the same issue. I am having hard time understanding the other party in every call. I really got to focus on the conversation
Low voice volume when rocker is on max. It is hard to hear people in street noisy environment.
I talked to T-mo rep and they said that probably the phone is like this, and suggested to go to t-mo store and try one of their units. I wonder if it's the entire batch or the phones are like this.
I am coming from Google Nexus One. I wonder if Ice Cream will solve this issue or cyanogen mod 9. Is it hardware or software issue? Anyone else with similar thoughts?
Honestly, coming from a Sensation, this phone has incredible sound quality and speaker volume.
I think you should warranty both handsets.
I came from the MyTouch 4G... And the SGS2 has such better sound quality than I had with my MyTouch, and I liked the MyTouch... I think you got a bad phone... Two bad phones, if that's possible... Haha
I have the same problem. Sounds like crap. I returned my first one after about 2 days. Got another one and it worked fine for a month or so, yhen the same thing happened. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now. I can't Stand it.
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I just got two:
Samsung Galaxy S II - Titanium from T-mobile (SGH-T989)
Not rooted, etc...But stock, as they come from t-mobile.
Voice quality is pretty bad on those two units. I can hear the other party muffed. I thought they are on speakerphone or talking thru a headset. Then the person with the other S G II noticed the same issue. I am having hard time understanding the other party in every call. I really got to focus on the conversation
Low voice volume when rocker is on max. It is hard to hear people in street noisy environment.
I talked to T-mo rep and they said that probably the phone is like this, and suggested to go to t-mo store and try one of their units. I wonder if it's the entire batch or the phones are like this.
I am coming from Google Nexus One. I wonder if Ice Cream will solve this issue or cyanogen mod 9. Is it hardware or software issue? Anyone else with similar thoughts?
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Yeah i have notice as well
i've been using it for 2+ month now, it's loud and clear
you guys must have got some duds
the other day another user asked me about the Mic, and after using compressed air to clear it out, is fine now
if you put the phone in your pants or jacket pockets often it might be stuffed
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i've been using it for 2+ month now, it's loud and clear
you guys must have got some duds
the other day another user asked me about the Mic, and after using compressed air to clear it out, is fine now
if you put the phone in your pants or jacket pockets often it might be stuffed
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Thank you for your input.
I have no problem with my mic. The other party has no problem either, since I talk to different people, and I still have the same result. I have problem with the speaker, or the sound chip. The phones are brand new so no lint/dust in the speaker, or the mic.
I think Samsung does some changes with every different batch. This one is probably just like this. Nothing can be done. The series I am talking is: Samsung Galaxy S II – Titanium for T-Mobile, manufactured in December 2011 (no headphones in the box).
I am sure a lot of other SG2 s are fine.
The volume is on max, when I call someone (before the other party answers) ringing in the speaker is not clear or crisp, since the volume is on max.
I talked to Samsung today 12/21 and they have not hear of the issue. I talked to t-mobile on 12/20 and they have no solution either.
I guess it’s going on craigslist. Probably this will be normal voice quality for other users, and I will downgrade to Nexus S (hardware wise) until some other nexus appears at the end of the next year.
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i've been using it for 2+ month now, it's loud and clear
you guys must have got some duds
the other day another user asked me about the Mic, and after using compressed air to clear it out, is fine now
if you put the phone in your pants or jacket pockets often it might be stuffed
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That's what it is. Talk on my phone you'll clearly see the difference. My old Sensation had horrible call quality until I ran the volume + app but then my battery started dying quickly
So I got rid of it & haven't looked back since.
This is someone coming from an unlocked iphone 4 in white (best call quality besides the Galaxy S2)
My GS2 is so clear and loud I never have to worry about hearing other callers no matter where I am. Take both phones back and have the reps at the store exchange them for you.
If they give you grief, have them make calls from your 2 handsets. Make sure they grab a demo phone to compare yours to
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I have the same exact issue. Just got my phone a few days ago, enjoying Pandora in the car with the AUX input jack...
A call comes in, I answer, and I can't heard a damn thing! I make sure the In Call volume is set to max, still can barely hear the caller. I turn up my stereo...finish the call...then BAM! Pandora is blasting my ears off!
Incredibly frustrating!
sharko, wondering if you were able to get this resolved via exchange...?
Im on uvkid baseband and macnut eugenes rom
Anyone else having these problems and what do u find better basebands for tmobile im in georgia btw. Im thinking its just this phone, live to know others feedback on his matter
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I've had people say the same thing before. I wonder if its the phone or a different problem.
That's why im starting this topic so people can comment and share
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I've had people say the same thing before. I wonder if its the phone or a different problem.
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Have you tried mute then unmute ...lol vibrant owners know what I'm talking about .....
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Yea speaker phone on then off goes away but comes back. Seriously what kinda phone does this scrap though these r 500$ phones wth
Oh also there's a noise reduction setting when your in a call as well
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Have you tried mute then unmute ...lol vibrant owners know what I'm talking about .....
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My buddy has the same phone same stuff happens to him as well so its not the user
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I've had people say the same thing before. I wonder if its the phone or a different problem.
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Alright, lets start some basic diagnosing..
Scyke, what baseband and rom are you using?
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what case are you using?
have you tried without a case?
Yes in using the incipio case on k1d baseband and revenge of macnut
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does it work properly if you flash it back to stock without a case?
I haven't tried flashing it back to stock case or no case same results
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does it work properly if you flash it back to stock without a case?
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So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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I think you hit the nail on its head...except the multi-task.
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I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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I don't necessarily think it will keep many people from purchasing, but I could see it being useful - I'd certainly use it every now and then.
I think the real question is: why is this functionality disabled in some markets?
I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.
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I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.
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People just look for reasons to nitpick.
We're all just so programmed to want the international version. Up until now, AT&T, along with other carriers have pretty much destroyed Samsung flagship phones by using the crappy Qualcomm chips for processors. I don't know about you guys but I've always been able to tell the difference. It was either Qualcomm with LTE or Exynos with HSPA+.
Well this time we finally get LTE and Exynos. The only advantage the International version has are getting updates fast. But why would you be on this forum if you don't plan to root and flash custom roms anways???
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.
MattMJB0188 said:
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.
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Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
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from a galaxy far far away....
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
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Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
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We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.
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So what software differences will the be between the two.
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I hear the split screen multitasking-multiview is being tested & coming possibly at launch around time of AT&T Note2-early November..
Anyone hear anything on the advertised screen recorder function ?
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We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.
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No. Lol. Know about pandora. Just got a funny image in my head from the car is for radio statement.
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I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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The NFL doesn't allow streaming games online. Means I can't get it on TuneIn Radio, but there is an FM station that plays Bears games. When I'm at work, I can listen on my phone if the FM radio was in it. Not a deal breaker, but it would be nice if the US versions were exactly the same.
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I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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Carrier tampering is annoying..no doubt..F' the carriers, Go Nexus: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
http://www.google.com/nexus/4/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33429515&postcount=4
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The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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My EVO 4G has an FM Radio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjN2IsYnrc which requires wired headphones to act an antenna. Also plugging it into wired external speakers at home works. Honestly I just used it for the first time but it was nice to know I had it just in case (of some kind of emergency etc.). Carriers in the US also are not bundling the Note2 with headphones but Sprint didn't include them with the EVO 4G so that's not likely the excuse either.. Not a dealbreaker for me but carrier intervention is often annoying
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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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I doubt that. The FCC isn't going to block the ability for a device to recieve anything transmitted on a broadcast frequency.
In fact, the GT-N7100 is actually FCC approved for use in the USA (and it includes the FM radio.) Same for the GT-i9300 (international SGS3.)
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
Outside of the US, the carriers don't have as much influence on the phone hardware, and less ability to block these things.
Gary
garyd9 said:
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
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My thoughts exactly. Hopefully someone will find a way to re-enable it. I know I'd use it every now and again.
I agree that it would be nice to have FM radio in my phone, especially after the hurricane that hit the Northeast. What happens when the power is out and even the cell towers are down? My home radio is dead and I don't feel safe sitting in my car during the storm. I'd like to be able to turn on the FM Radio on my phone and hear the local broadcasts to see what's going on.
My EVO 3D has FM Radio, provided something with an unsheilded cord is connected to the headphone jack. My Epic 4G has the FM Chip, but it was disabled in the hardware. I notice most HTC devices didn't get their FM chips disabled, but it looks as though all Samsung FM chips were disconnected or removed.
The carriers block FM radio because they rather you stream music using an app maybe go over you data plan so they can make a little more money off you if you go over.
I remember Some years ago in I had an HTC TouchPro II Windows Mobile phone. It had the hard ware for FM radio but the software to use it was removed. Once the software was installed the FM radio worked.
Not I'm not optimistic that will happen with the Note II. It just goes to show the greedy nature of the industry, that wants to nickle and dime at every turn.
I have (extensively) tested 2 different, brand new, Note II phones (Rogers and Bell) and when the volume is set louder than 1/2 on voice calls they both return somewhat distorted sound due to the speaker itself vibrating, crackling, especially at high pitch or low frequency sounds/voices. The closest comparison - although grossly exaggerated - would be much like a busted speaker (broken membrane), or more like the membrane touching the frame when the sound is too loud. It's not continuous but it rather comes and goes depending on the voice modulation and loudness, and although one may normally overlook it, it gets quite noticeable (and annoying) when paying attention.
On the other hand the very same phones perform exceptionally well when playing any other kinds of sounds (not calls) - YouTube music or voice, Music Player, Pod-casts, Radio, etc - they are all fine, more than fine actually.
Anybody else has noticed that?
P.S. Please don't make comments like "I don't use loudspeaker on calls", or anything alike, I didn't start this for statistical purposes, but rather to figure out whether I bumped into some isolated cases or it's a rather common issue on our Note 2.
same here... crackling on speakerphone voice calls
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same here... crackling on speakerphone voice calls
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3 reported cases so far...anybody else? It's beginning to start looking like a production or supplier issue.
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nacos said:
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3 reported cases so far...anybody else? It's beginning to start looking like a production or supplier issue.
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I already wrote a post about this. Don't think there's anything wrong with the phones speaker because when playing music, youtube etc..., at the highest volume, there is not crackling happening. I think It has to do with the cellular reception and how the signal gets converted to the speaker. The way the phone handles the calls. Hope a software update can fix this.
robjbw said:
I already wrote a post about this. Don't think there's anything wrong with the phones speaker because when playing music, youtube etc..., at the highest volume, there is not crackling happening. I think It has to do with the cellular reception and how the signal gets converted to the speaker. The way the phone handles the calls. Hope a software update can fix this.
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That's exactly what I was thinking and, otherwise the reason behind testing myself 2 different Note II on two different networks. The only reason this still bothers me is because I came from an S3 and I was using it the same way, yet NEVER experienced this. On the other hand I know that for marketing purposes Samsung "pushed" the loudness of the loudspeaker on the Note II and while they may have had strict control in digital conversion of the sound files played through various apps, there wasn't much they could do/control about voice (due to multiple network variables).
I have not noticed this on a voice call, however on some games like Angry Birds Star Wars it does this when the volume is all the way up. Glad I am not the only one to notice this. I have the Verizon version of the Note 2. Mine also does not crackle during music play back. Guess its something we are going to have to live with. I even popped the back of the phone off to see if it helped and it did not. IMHO its sad considering how much the device cost. I paid outright for it.
I also hear this anomaly.
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One would think with the size of this phone that it would have a nice size speaker that could handle it all without issue.
i had 3 note 2 ..i had to switch them out for various reasons..but all 3 including my current note 2 has the same call problem using the loud speaker..but again music and everything else comes out perfectly fine..just on calls only..so guess its normal and we cant do anything about it..
I also went through 2 Note 2's for this reason and have the same speaker issue. I have friends on Tmobile with same issue as well.
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This is odd..... I have never had any problem with voice calls on speaker. Whats really weird is I came from the SGS2 Skyrocket and it had this very same problem, only voice calls on speaker . I was happy when using the Note2 because I no longer had this issue. Maybe it is hardware related, not the speaker but a chip or something
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Yes, having the same issue here. Went from hunting down Volume + for my G-Nexus to looking for a way to throttle the volume on my Note2's external speaker .
Its like Samsung got tired of people complaing about low volume on some devices so they went the complete other direction and over powered the external speaker.
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I don't really use speakerphone so... j/k yea I've had that problem, work with Samsung phones all day, and it does seem to be a consistent issue. I'm not familiar with Canadian carriers are those both gsm or is there any cdma in there? I know gsm has weaknesses when it comes to the digital to analog conversion & back.. your voice is converted to digital for backend transmission and back to analog on the other end. Maybe the note has some weakness in this area. It would be interesting to hear anyone's experience with a cdma note though.
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When I talk with my wife on my HTC One or iPhone 5 (she uses an i5 as well), we're connected via HD Voice, and it is awesome.
However, with the S4, it never seems to be in HD Voice. I've read in a few places it supports HD Voice, and I can't figure out if I'm missing something, or if it's arbitrary depending on network conditions, or what. I did make sure it's not using Wifi calling, but other than I'm not sure what else to do.
Not a huge issue in the realm of things, but if I'm supposed to be able to use it, it would be nice!
jntdroid said:
When I talk with my wife on my HTC One or iPhone 5 (she uses an i5 as well), we're connected via HD Voice, and it is awesome.
However, with the S4, it never seems to be in HD Voice. I've read in a few places it supports HD Voice, and I can't figure out if I'm missing something, or if it's arbitrary depending on network conditions, or what. I did make sure it's not using Wifi calling, but other than I'm not sure what else to do.
Not a huge issue in the realm of things, but if I'm supposed to be able to use it, it would be nice!
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When my girlfriend and I talk (S III to S IV) and we're on 4G and 3G, respectively, we're on HD voice. I can definitely tell when one of us switches to EDGE.
Trevnerdio said:
When my girlfriend and I talk (S III to S IV) and we're on 4G and 3G, respectively, we're on HD voice. I can definitely tell when one of us switches to EDGE.
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Ok, then maybe I've just had bad luck... honestly we don't talk on the phone that much, so my sample size isn't huge.
jntdroid said:
Ok, then maybe I've just had bad luck... honestly we don't talk on the phone that much, so my sample size isn't huge.
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Sorry to revive such a long dead topic but I definitely notice HD voice when I use my S4 to call my friend that has an iPhone 5!
Trevnerdio said:
Sorry to revive such a long dead topic but I definitely notice HD voice when I use my S4 to call my friend that has an iPhone 5!
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How do you know when HD voice is active?
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DarkMage619 said:
How do you know when HD voice is active?
The Dark One
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Slightly louder, much clearer than your average phone call and there's no white noise (which I know has been intentionally added in the past to let the other person know that you're still on the phone)