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[Q] [solved] Suddenly, horrible battery life out of nowhere

Hey guys,
I have been trying to solve this on my own for two days now, but I would like to consult the forum now.
So, I was running Pink Sense 1.8 for about 2 weeks with setCPU profiles and was getting satisfactory battery life. I had re-calibrated the battery info maybe 2 weeks before flashing the Pinky ROM (as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903).
All of a sudden, without any app installation or change to either the ROM or software/hardware settings I started getting horrible battery life. The battery would drain completely for less than 6 hours with GPS, 3G, and WiFi off.
*Another strange thing (which I don't know if it was related to my battery issue or not) was that when I would plug the charger it would turn the screen on but switch to the default clock app instead of the HTC sense homescreen. If I pressed home or back it would disappear. This would happen randomly and not always.
So, I figured it's time to jump ROMs and I decided on LeeDroid. I wiped cache, etc. and flashed the ROM. Out of the box the battery life was again pretty crappy (the battery was virtually disappearing in front of my eyes). I found some threads where it was suggested to disable market notifications and that slowed the battery drain a bit but it's still crappy.
I just charged it fully, 3G and WiFi off, and was with the screen off for 99% of the time and it still drained 18% battery in 1hour and 25 mins.
So, my question is - what the hell is going on???
Should I wipe battery info? Should I install a non-WiFi n rom? What more can I do?
I would really appreciate help and advice.
p.s. I am running the latest radio too.

wich radio have you the .23 drains the batery with my desire try with the .30_2
the battery life is better.
did you try reboot your phone maybe your optical joystick dead and drain your battery.

load any new apps recently?

cr1960 said:
load any new apps recently?
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As I said, the problem appeared with absolutely no new apps installed and persists after flashing a new ROM.
How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
I will try flashing the 30_2 radio, thanks for that suggestion.

slyn4ice said:
How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
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If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english

Sithlord31 said:
If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english
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Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.

slyn4ice said:
Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.
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There seems to be no change with 17_2 radio. 15% drop for 1h45m. I will go through a charge/recharge cycle and if nothing has changed I will flash the 30_2 radio.

Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac

mmaacc said:
Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac
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Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.

slyn4ice said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.
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If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.

pehkblui said:
If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.
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I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.

slyn4ice said:
I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.
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Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex

Alex-V said:
Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex
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that doesn't help, ive tried it already

TieT said:
that doesn't help, ive tried it already
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Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!

slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!
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VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!

3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.

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3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.
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Amazing explanation and reaffirmation of my thoughts Jgruar (JuicePlotter confirms it). I guess from my old WinMo days, I always remember Wifi being the power hog. I actually did change it back to GSM/Auto since that was the only change I made lately, but I thought I'd chime in while my device was charging back up, hoping for a reply just like that!
Thanks a bunch!

scar45 said:
VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!
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From what I understand you need to update RIL settings in the ROM and then flash the modified ROM. I just edited the /system/build.prop file in the Leedriod zip file and saved (didn't resign or anything). Flashed the ROM through ROM Manager recovery (I also tried flashing it through the normal recovery but it failed on the "verifying image" stage - I guess because I didn't resign the archive).
As far as the options themselves - only the last two should be carrier specific. I haven't researched anything about them, so I have absolutely no idea what they actually do. "lenik" just copied them from an official Softbank ROM.
God, i just checked JuicePlotter and i dropped 1% for 1h10m (everything off except the radio + setCPU to ~400Mhz when screen off). This is just crazy ... awesome ))))

Is the setting rom specific, or will it work om opendesire?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings
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LeeDroid ROM (LeeDrOiD_V2.1_A2SD+_.zip) build.prop includes:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
but no:
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
Just checked.

[Q] HTC Kaiser CPU Doesn't Sleep?

Did a search, and didn't find anything regarding this, so I'll point this out. I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
Is my KAIS really sleeping, or is there a bug somewhere?
I'm running l1q1d's latest .32 kernel, with Fat Free Froyo build with system/data on NAND.
Battery also only lasts about 8hrs in "standby", and not even 2hrs with full use. With WinMo, I get about 36hrs standby, and about 5hrs full use.

Krazy-Killa said:
I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
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Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
Krazy-Killa said:
When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
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I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....

albertorodast2007 said:
Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....
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The phone locks like it's suppose too, but the problem I'm having is the CPU of the Kaiser isn't actually falling asleep. I'm getting the same battery consumption as when the screen is off compared to on, and sitting there (no activity on my part, just leaving the screen on for no reason )
Every so often the phone will be asleep, and the only way to bring it back on is by hitting the power button, but about 95% of the time I can press the call button, end button, OK button, IE button, hell even push down on the wheel on the other side of the Kaiser and the screen will come on showing the lock screen.
As far as the battery capacity, I have not done that, but the phone's been auto-learning my capacity, and it will get to the 2160 units, compared to the 2000 it's always set too, and sometimes reach 2377 units.
I have tried several Radio versions, down to 1.65.xx.xx version (which was the original version on my phone), and no changes, and tried different builds and no change either. DZOs kernel doesn't make a difference either, except screw up my battery meter completely. lol

uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...

albertorodast2007 said:
uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...
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Did some more testing, and found that without it plugged into power it does only respond to the power button, but again it's only about 15-20% of the time, and even those times seem iffy as it just seems like the phone's just slow to respond.
Phone is also somewhat warm as well even when "off", and I do have the phone overclocked to 450MHz, kernel is set to 425 (running a test on speed/stability atm)
At 425MHz it's still reasonably warm, and at 450 the temperature jumps alot.
Anyone else have an issue of the tap sounds when tapping on the screen sometimes not playing? Granted phone quality is great, and GPS is working well, though Camera is broken on my end, even though it was working before.

It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.

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It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....

albertorodast2007 said:
by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....
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Yes that's the one. it needs to be removed, and can be replaced by Fancy Widget.
Sent from my Android on HTC Kaiser/Kaiser/Polaris using XDA App

n2rjt said:
It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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Ok, I'll give it a whirl, and remove some of the widgets I have running, and see if it does help out. Right now though I'm re-installing /system as I tried messing around with the density as 110 seems to work real well with where things are placed on the home screen (no widgets are overlapping each other), but Market won't work, and the Android Keyboard keeps crashing (on-screen).
But anyways, phone's booting back up, so I'll test out the battery life here again, as I got about 95% charge right now, so should serve as a good test for battery life, and CPU Sleepage.

Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
Edit 2 : Figured it out, turns out the ebay app has a service and a process running - even with notifications turned off! Have killed these and see if anything improves

That could very well be part of the problem, although it shouldn't kill it from 66% with just the radio. How much capacity does it calibrate itself to?

cycloid said:
Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
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Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.

Krazy-Killa said:
Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.
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yes, i boutght seidio 1600 mAh, and the kernel ended up adjusting it to 3260 units... (about 2000 mAh) maybe the 1.6 factor isnt right just as n2rjt said, maybe its closer to the 2.0

Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next

cycloid said:
Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next
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Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.

Krazy-Killa said:
Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.
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When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..

daedric said:
When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..
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Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.

Krazy-Killa said:
Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.
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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye

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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye
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LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.

Krazy-Killa said:
LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.
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Man... that's a sin! You can't do that! You'll be off from the Brotherhood!
Kiddin' ;D

[Q] Another Battery Drain Thread (But this is ridiculous)

Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
But suddenly a few days ago, my phone doesn't sound my alarm in the morning because it had turned its self off.
Imagine my surprise when I had to plug it to start it. Turns out it had drained 60% in little over 3 hours.
So I began testing - turns out my phone had started to fluctuate between -90 and -150 mA EVEN IN AIRPLANE MODE.
After trying countless solutions (inc many different ROMs), I had had enough. I full wiped from CWM and installed fresh ARHD 5.1.6, skipped all setup, installed just titanium, and restored just battery calibration and currentwidget. I calibrated and then left it overnight in airplane mode - and STILL it fluctuated just as wildly.
I wouldn't post this if I hadn't tried everything, but I have spent hours reading xda trying to amend this. Changing radios didn't help (am using latest atm), changing ROM didn't help (not GB or froyo or CM7), even restoring my nandroid from when my battery drain was normal didn't help.
Does anyone have ANY ideas as to why this is happening?
The only thing I can conceivably think of is that my battery is giving up.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry

if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists

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if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
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Official batterys are expensive... does HTC do replacements?

not sure, never tried or asked, gotta phone them up!

have you tried turning USB debugging on? that solved it for some people.
i also had this problem, and the USB debug didnt work, but i found that it was something to do with HTC hub repeatedly trying to connect to the internet and using a shed load of CPU in doing so. aeroplane mode didnt help me either, but after turning off everything with HTC in its name it worked again. (specifically HTC sense in accounts and sync)
hope that helps, worth a try.

oh and my battery is fine now, lasts 2 days or so. can last a week though.
still charge it every night though.

Thanks for replying, but USB Debugging was always on for me, and when I tested with fresh install I didn't put ANY accounts in so the HTC thing shouldn't be an issue. i guess I'll just try the replacement battery thing

sometimes the radio signal kept switching also may cause a drain in your battery.
Setting > Mobile networks > Network Mode > Preferred Network Mode
for me i preferred it to be set as 'WCDMA' rather than 'GSM/WCDMA Auto'. The draw back is that i may lost signal if the signal is weak but this setting prevent the radio from being switching.

OKAY GUYS I FIXED IT
How you may ask?
I HAVE NO IDEA
I was just flashing things over trying to fix it and suddenly it went back to normal. I'm currently using a UV kernel, so maybe that's helping too.

apoorvajsh said:
Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
I assume you dont physically wire up an ammeter, or do you?
Ian P

Hahahahahaha, that's brilliant. I'm signaturing that
But no, I don't. The phone creates estimates of the present current/voltage loss, much the same way as it makes estimates of the battery % left.
So all you need is an app to log that! Currentwidget is the lightest, but I recommend battery monitor widget

OK its a battery monitoring app, but can you see the current drain whilst actually using other programmes?
Some apps use full screen so even the top status bar is not visible.
Ian P

elanman99 said:
Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
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CurrentWidget, logging to file :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget

List of known issues - confirmed on some phones

Can we put together a list of known issues with this phone for those of us who are thinking of switching so we can see everything in one place instead of having to sort through all the mess to find the issues and resolutions. Thanks
This list is just a copy and paste of the main points listed in the first 5 pages so far to save you some reading. Its just a summary, nothing more.
- vertical lines on some models with specific box date
- dead red pixel on some models
- some models has odd camera flash light, when powering off
- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card
- battery has stayed stuck at "100%"
- WiFi settings shows connected to the correct network but keeps scanning (Power saving mode problem.)
- lock screen locks up me sometimes
- wouldn't stay powered down while charging
- it takes quiet some time to charge up
- it's always warm even when not it use, but it gets super hot when charging
- screen lock bug
- take a pic, then tap the gallery button in the camera app, share to facebook, will not upload, says cannot locate pic. go to regular gallery, upload pic same way and it works fine.
- issue with the display staying on
- games freezing up and crashing after about 5- 10 mins of game play
- trouble with data when connected to wifi.
- wifi works but the 4g will not get internet access.
- music player other than orginal makes all kind of funny things skipping ,play not play or stock
- rebooting
this link was sent to me by jangst123 it should help us see how many people are experiencing each issue (poll link)
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo... issues Poll&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13203616807683
Results of poll:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ults of Poll&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13203617040734

Just had my first random reboot today, other then that, I haven't had any issues. The phone is amazing
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good idea, i stickied this topic
to keep track of all the known issues

brian6685 said:
Just had my first random reboot today, other then that, I haven't had any issues. The phone is amazing
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Same here, rebooted on its own after about 2 days of up time. No other issues besides that.

so, off all the stuff i've read in the forum thus far:
the list is something like this:
- vertical lines on some models with specific box date
- dead red pixel on some models
- some models has odd camera flash light, when powering off
lags and some apps performance, or network speed stuff doesn't count
anything else missing?

minor heads up
lets keep this topic only for confirmed issues.

One thing to add- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card. I'm having a hell of a time with Doggcatcher & some music players saying that the media cannot be read.

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One thing to add- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card. I'm having a hell of a time with Doggcatcher & some music players saying that the media cannot be read.
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that's a good one
and it sounds very familiar, back in the SGS1 days, there was similar problem.
using another media player should avoid that problem

AllGamer said:
that's a good one
and it sounds very familiar, back in the SGS1 days, there was similar problem.
using another media player should avoid that problem
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Yeah it works fine with PlayerPro, but I'm still trying to find another podcatcher that I like. I'm kinda pissed that I paid almost $7 for Doggcatcher & now it barely works >:|

So far my only issue is that the battery has stayed stuck at "100%" twice now (only had the phone for a week obviously). Both times it was in the morning after the phone had charged all night, and then I take it with me for school/work. I used it for a few hours at school and it stayed at a 100% so I took it by T-mobile and they hadn't seen that before.
They did the same thing I did which was remove the battery and restart the phone. After that it read correctly (around 76% or something). Still I don't want to have to pull my battery every day after it gets a full charge. I'm going to see what it does tomorrow in the morning and go from there....anyone else have this issue?

please report that bug directly to samsung on the stickied link

Darmokk said:
So far my only issue is that the battery has stayed stuck at "100%" twice now (only had the phone for a week obviously). Both times it was in the morning after the phone had charged all night, and then I take it with me for school/work. I used it for a few hours at school and it stayed at a 100% so I took it by T-mobile and they hadn't seen that before.
They did the same thing I did which was remove the battery and restart the phone. After that it read correctly (around 76% or something). Still I don't want to have to pull my battery every day after it gets a full charge. I'm going to see what it does tomorrow in the morning and go from there....anyone else have this issue?
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I can understand that the most embarrassing thing to do in public is a battery pull. I haven't done a battery pull since my blackberry days

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Done!
Killbynature said:
I can understand that the most embarrassing thing to do in public is a battery pull. I haven't done a battery pull since my blackberry days
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Haha yeah I can deal with it from time to time maybe, but I don't wanna be doing every freaking morning haha

I also have the 100% battery bug. I don't have to pull the battery though, just doing a reset by power off/on works to clear it. It *is* kind of annoying though...

I have seen this as well. It happened the last two mornings after charging overnight.

I have same issue. keep showing 100% battery indicator.

Wow lots of people having isSue wiTh the 100% battery thing hopefully that getS sorteD soon.
Edit: I HATE typing on this freaking iPad sometimes!

I saw the battery stuck at 100% as well on mine. Another thing i noticed that i have the WiFi ON all the time. So while i'm in office it is connected to the WiFi and the phone sits in my pocket for about an hour or more before i actually use it (using another phone at work), so after i wanna use it and it shows the WiFi connected symbol but no connection. Go to WiFi settings and shows connected to the correct network but keeps scanning. Turn Off WiFi and turn it back ON and its running again. Although i did not noticed this issue at home. Is it that at home my phone is always on table and not in my pocket....is it something to do with my my pocket

Power saving mode problem. When activated, it turns off gps, wifi, blue tooth etc.. (Whatever you choose) at specified battery level. However, when power is recharged past the set power saving mode point it doesn't turn these features back on. So annoying.
So when fully recharged, you have to go back and manually re-enable your gps, wifi, screen brightness etc..
This seems like a software issue, do the other brand gs2's have this problem?
**Also have the 100% battery bug.

My Galaxy S II wouldn't stay powered down while charging. Everytime I turned the device off while charging it would automatically power back on. I honestly wasn't sure if that was simply the way the phone was designed (which would be odd), but sure enough at the T-Mobile store today we opened up a brand new Galaxy to see if it would remain 'off' while charging. Sure enough, it could.
Long story short, I have the 100% battery malfunction, and an "unable to charge turned off" issue. Swapping out phones at T-mobile as we speak Another GSII btw, even with these annoying issues its a great phone. I think (hope) I just got a lemon?

How can I track down my battery drain?

Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?

might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.

Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.

Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?

Herman76 said:
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!

Zepius said:
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.

OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??

Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.

1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time

derekwilkinson said:
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.

RogerPodacter said:
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.

I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.

arw01 said:
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.

beren28 said:
While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ

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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.

You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.

skadebo said:
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.