When running Android, my phone gets hot. I also know that when it gets hot, the phone will shut down when I open/close the keyboard, and later have this behavior even when the phone is cool. I am wondering if the increase in heat may be damaging the internals of the Tilt 2? I am about to get my third one in from ATT, as I had to send my first and current one back because of this.
I am in no way blaming the devs or anything, I know I run Android at my own risk. I am just curious if anyone else has had a similar problem or knows of a solution/other reason for this behavior.
Do you only have this behavior in Android...? If so, you probably have no grounds for replacing the phone...
Which version are you running?
The Blazn package overclocks the CPU by default, which could cause it to get warmer than you are used to in WinMo.
Also, the power savings aren't totally finished, so again it will more than likely run warmer than Windows.
Did you disable the Auto Backlight Control under WinMo? Failing to do that can cause the backlight to stay on all the time which will draw a fair amount of power (and generate heat).
If it's getting really hot then I would think there is something else at fault, but you need to provide more info.
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Which version are you running?
The Blazn package overclocks the CPU by default, which could cause it to get warmer than you are used to in WinMo.
Also, the power savings aren't totally finished, so again it will more than likely run warmer than Windows.
Did you disable the Auto Backlight Control under WinMo? Failing to do that can cause the backlight to stay on all the time which will draw a fair amount of power (and generate heat).
If it's getting really hot then I would think there is something else at fault, but you need to provide more info.
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yeah shouldnt be getting "hot." maybe a little warm. and i would suggest taking it out of any cases you have it in while running droid or overclocking.
if any thing its the battery thats getting hot....the battery may be damaged if anything and you may loose some of your capacity to charge...so change the battery...idk but that maybe the issue...if it starts to get hot you should reboot and dont let it run hot for a long period of time...or maybe its time for another phone one too many drops...idk only some suggestions
I used to have this, its caused by the battery being loose in the craddle.
Solution- new batt
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Just read the review by PC Mag, and I have to admit it's making me a little hesitant to pick up the phone Sunday. Essentially when the phone gets warm it auto dims the screen. I wish he posted more details about the issue.
I've been jazzed about the phone for a couple of weeks now, but it does have some drawbacks for me right out of the box. The non-removable battery, the lackluster camera, and lack of micro-sd slot on the Sprint version. Still I could live with those issues, by and large, but the dimming issue reported by PC Mag has me to the point where I'm reconsidering buying in.
I'm hoping people who get this phone over the weekend weigh in with their experience on the issue.
Here's the relevant excerpt:
"One big problem: I did most of my testing with the screen brightness set to maximum. I noticed it dip considerably after about 10 or 15 minutes of benchmarking. When I checked on it in the phone's Settings, I saw the brightness level had dropped down to 66%. I tried to turn it back up, and got the message, "Unable to brighten more due to high temperature. Try again later." I encountered this issue on multiple occasions. Especially when using processor-intensive applications like games, the top half of the phone becomes increasingly warm. LG claims it has not encountered this issue, but two test units as well as our AT&T model of the phone did the same thing."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
daryllh said:
Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
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Totally agree. That's why I'm sort of waiting with anticipation for people to get them in their hands and report their experience with that issue. I've got my current phone set to like 30% most of the time, so this is workable, but there are times when I need that brightness maxed out for a significant length of time.
I'm hoping the reports are good. I really want this phone.
If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
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If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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That's not good news, I'm going to stay optimistic with it since it's already on the UPS truck and if it overheats on any normal use I will return it as defective. In all fairness, I've never had a smartphone that didn't overheat, especially during tethering.
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received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
faithfulshark said:
received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
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I haven't encountered the error yet, it runs a bit warm, but I keep my screen at about 36% to save battery.
My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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More like running warm, I think people might be over reacting a bit whenever this issue is brought up.
This user is reporting random reboots. Also, the sprint rep recommended they pull the battery for about a minute... on the lg optimus g.... with the fixed battery door.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/499063#499063
Sorry to hear that. No problems yet. The camera is disappointing, but everything else is working well. The dimming issue is an issue. I was out taking pics to test the camera and needed more brightness but the phone was locked at like sixty three percent or maybe forty three i cant remember.
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When I'm playing games with high graphic details, my Note 2 is getting hot. I know that the hot is from CPU/GPU usage.
Can I play freely and without beeing concerned after the phone is getting hot?
How long can I play after the phone is getting hot?
For the most part it can get too hot to hold and not damage any of the internals. Although the battery will wear down quicker at high heat
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For the most part it can get too hot to hold and not damage any of the internals. Although the battery will wear down quicker at high heat
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But can I play without being concerned even if the phone is getting hot?
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But can I play without beeing concerned even if the phone is getting hot?
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For those game which need high consumption on your phone resources,... It is normal. Perhaps that's the reason samsung use hard plastic instead of metal
As long as your phone never face any sudden reboot due to heat, then it is fine. I've used many Samsung smartphone, from the lowest specs, till Note 2 (except Note 3... not enought budget so far :fingers-crossed, and I know heat is normal for Android device. And please don't compare with iPhone, due to different O/S character.
And yes, when the phone get hotter, the battery will run down faster.
This is what I know. You may correct me if I'm wrong, I just wrote based on my experience.
but if you concern about the heat, then you can stop playing that particular game(s) on your Note 2, or you can try to change kernel. This might help a bit. Different kernel will give different performance.
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antique_sonic said:
For those game which need high consumption on your phone resources,... It is normal. Perhaps that's the reason samsung use hard plastic instead of metal
As long as your phone never face any sudden reboot due to heat, then it is fine. I've used many Samsung smartphone, from the lowest specs, till Note 2 (except Note 3... not enought budget so far :fingers-crossed, and I know heat is normal for Android device. And please don't compare with iPhone, due to different O/S character.
And yes, when the phone get hotter, the battery will run down faster.
This is what I know. You may correct me if I'm wrong, I just wrote based on my experience.
but if you concern about the heat, then you can stop playing that particular game(s) on your Note 2, or you can try to change kernel. This might help a bit. Different kernel will give different performance.
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Thanks for responding.
I can't change the kernel because my phone is still in warranty and I'm risking to lose it.
I knew that getting hot is normal, but even if I know that, I'm still concerned. That's the reason why I asked that Q. I hope is normal and I hope i can play freely on the phone without thinking at the worst.
Please excuse my english.
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
Rupar4o said:
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
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I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
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I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
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Thanks for the reply, someone with issues ?
Same here not felt it get warm even watching video.
When the phone gets hot several things happen.
1) The CPU is clocked down to help lower heat
2) Brightness is capped to help lower heat
3) If the phone continues to get too hot (usually when its already hot and you then start to play a really intense game, or benchmark the phone may shut itself down.
People complained a lot with the Korean model but I haven't seen anyone with a US model complain. Maybe the type of person that waits is less likely to be a phone gamer? They may have actually tweaked it so it doesn't activate as quickly or harshly. I do know some people disabled it on the Korean model. I haven't heard of anything bad happening but those few people may have felt dumb if it destroyed their phone and not posted that it did...
I have no heating problem with my lg g3 international D855 16gb model, even during quadrant test or playing games.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
what heat issue
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I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
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Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
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Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
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Not sure it must be out there somewhere I am sure.
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I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
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My girlfriend picked this up yesterday and this is happening to her G3. Not playing games though, just browsing the internet/reading an article. It makes no sense to me. How can you take control over that? She doesn't want to root the phone.
But yeah, just reading something or even looking at Facebook, the phone gets way too hot.
I picked up the Verizon version yesterday. It's gotten pretty warm around the power button a few times for me also. Typically not bad or what I would consider unusual with one or two exceptions.
My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
Batfink33 said:
This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
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this.
all phones get warm if you are on it for an extended period of time, surfing (using data), gaming etc etc screen on for long periods of time. those saying they can game and not have heat are lying to you. phone gets warm when screen is on for extended period of time and by phone I mean any phone
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Yeah, i had a flickering display which didnt go away.I returned that phone. Another poster yesterday had the same issue.Im wondering if the GPU is frying itself? Although the GPU does throttle as well as the CPU. Running Antutu I would get 60+deg C maybe playing a game for an extended period of time for example is causing damage? Just a theory.
I checked out a video with the G3 being pulled apart. Right under the power button, is a silver rectangular(ish) component. Can someone tell me what that part is?
I'd just like to understand the source of the heat.
Thanks in advance.
The source of the heat is your CPU which resides under the power button more of less. You will also notice that the display gets hot on the front top half. This isn't necessarily normal, were you doing anything CPU intensive? (Gaming, recording long 4k videos, streaming 2k videos etc...?) It won't hurt your phone but it shouldn't be hot to the touch but instead 'warm'
Thanks for your answer.
I'm finding that videoing for 2 minutes really starts making it hot.
I'm not rooted (yet) running 10j with a 16gb aus version.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm not going to root until Android L has been out long enough to "settle" down.
I had overheat issue with my first G3, it would get really damn hot, took it back for a replacement, I suggest that, if you can.
Mine was shutting down due to temp and 100% stock, if they wont replace due to overheat then tell them it shuts down which it probably will eventually if it is that hot.
Another option is try a different launcher and disable any apps or background stuff in Settings/Apps/etc that you dont need then try video again.
Thanks for the suggestion. I could take it back but it would be my third g3. I suspect that its the 2gb of ram which is the issue. Because I live in Aus we only have a 16gb 855 version. I suspect that even with a replaced phone I would still have the heat. Its not enough to shut the phone down and not enough that I can't touch it. I stick with my original reasons for getting a g3 - best hardware I could get with a limit to the bloatware (ie not s5). I don't think I could handle the 5.9" nexus. All I can say is, if you can't handle the heat, get into the kitchen (and sample the ROM menu).
Thanks for your help
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Last night my Note7 suddenly started repeatedly freezing and getting hot also it didnt turn off for ages when holding the power button so when i eventually did get it off i left it off over night. Seems ok now but had me a little worried. Anyone else experienced this?
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Time to hand yours in. Symptoms of battery failure right there.
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Sounds more like the symptoms of a bootlooping and brick.
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Last night my Note7 suddenly started repeatedly freezing and getting hot also it didnt turn off for ages when holding the power button so when i eventually did get it off i left it off over night. Seems ok now but had me a little worried. Anyone else experienced this?
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Seriously?
Words fail me. That takes some doing!
Ryland
Force reboot is volume up and power at the same time isn't it?
rcoburn, do not laugh at other's problems, if you do not have anything useful to say, please be polite, and say nothing, instead of making fun at others expense, think ways to make yourself useful
ooMoo said:
Last night my Note7 suddenly started repeatedly freezing and getting hot also it didnt turn off for ages when holding the power button so when i eventually did get it off i left it off over night. Seems ok now but had me a little worried. Anyone else experienced this?
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There's no reason for the battery failure to affect the cpu unless the heat is in excess of 80C or so. Was the phone really hot or around only 45-50C? If the latter is the case, it could have just been a rogue app loading cpu 100%. Also, was the charge on battery below 80%? The thermal runaway shouldn't happen happen begin below those values, but you never know. Also, make sure that the phone isn't bulging from excessive pressure in the battery...
I'd just like to remind everyone to keep things respectful please.
Thanks!
Just out of curiosity, is this your original or replacement unit?
Either way, it definitely looks like it's signs of a faulty battery. My original unit went to infinite bootloop after shutting off on its own. And when I brought it to a Samsung service centre, they failed to even recover the phone. Going as far as advising me to "take advantage" of the exchange programme to get a "safe" unit.
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Just out of curiosity, is this your original or replacement unit?
Either way, it definitely looks like it's signs of a faulty battery. My original unit went to infinite bootloop after shutting off on its own. And when I brought it to a Samsung service centre, they failed to even recover the phone. Going as far as advising me to "take advantage" of the exchange programme to get a "safe" unit.
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Its the replacement. I've decided to return it next week now
Don't let others scare you. This isn't a battery problem.
It was very likely the CPU that was getting hot, not the battery. The CPU was processing something at 100% load for a long period of time, naturally, warming it (and the exterior of the phone) up. It took some time to respond to you pressing the power button because the CPU was still processing something else at full load.
So, it was likely the OS or an app that was stuck in a loop, causing all this to happen.
Everyone is so paranoid about the battery exploding that they are ignoring the most likely and most obvious of explanations.
The battery powers your phone, freezing and resetting doesn't really have anything to do with the battery. Could be the processor, software etc.
And outside of MAYBE getting a little hot, I'm pretty sure there's no symptoms of a bad battery before it expands, at least none we can see since the battery is locked inside of the phone.
At this point the speaker could go out and people would scream "IT'S ABOUT TO BLOW!"
Like if you think the Title is actually real funny?
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And on that note, I believe that this thread has run its course.
Remember, you are continuing to use a device that has been recalled. You do so at your own risk. As someone who repairs devices for a living, I can tell you that the battery can have an effect on the way your device operates if it is not outputting the proper power. There's a lot of incorrect information in this thread. You have to look at the big picture here, this was a massive recall for a reason. I suggest you heed the warning and return the device.
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