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Getting hot

Anyone else's getting very hot. I already returned two rezounds for getting up to 150now my nex is up to 111 right now and all I was doing was playing around on Facebook. Most of the heat feels like it is on the top half of the phone and the screen gets extremely hot
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Is your brightness up high? And also are you charging it while playing on it
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Charging now wasn't then and yeah I keep brightness up otherwise the screen is way too grainy. You should be able to use your screens top levels without scolding your fingers lol just curious if this is a common thing or If I have to yet again get another phone
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My phone heats up on the top part like yours but mainly when I use it while it charges or if I keep the screen awake for about 20-30+ min straight.
Edit: just like your laptop or TV or psp or any other electronic device lol
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Not seen any issues on mine so far and it doesn't get as hot as my iPhone 4S when that is charging and/or using bluetooth for making calls.

yeh my phone gets quite warm also , crazy thing is when it gets warm im sure it affects the colour temp of the screen.

Mine gets hots quickly when I play Riptide a lot.

I noticed this too, but. I don't feel it since its just the top half and my hands are gripping the bottom half. I do feel it when I stick it in my pocket and my thigh gets really warm.
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Mine heats up at the top back only when I'm using mobile data to do stuff. But I can use wifi all day with top brightness with no overheat. Stupid.
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Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
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like right now. I literally just turned my phone on 5 minutes ago and am on wifi and I can feel the top getting hot
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when I got my phone a few weeks ago (GSM 4.0.1) my phone easily warms up especially at the back near the camera area. After manually updating to 4.0.2, I really noticed it was gone. Now even I am watching youtube videos for more than 20-30mins my phone doesn't warm up even a bit unlike before i got it on stock 4.0.1 in which just turning on a wifi connection and gps warms the back of my nexus without running an app.

Delldorado said:
Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
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Define overheating. Because i think the phone does quite well for how much horsepower is under the hood. Mine gets warm doing this, that and the other. The only time i was seriously concerned was watching a netflix movie over mhl and really i was really only concerned about the battery temp than the phone. The phone and its components are a big step up from phones 3 years ago. People used to whine about phones getting warm when 3g heated them up and 3g was becoming the norm. Fast forward to today and there are more powerful components packed into less space, and less ventilated at that. If you dont like your phone warming up get a dumbphone and be done with it. I think the nexus and most other smartphones do quite well. And this was before i undervolted it. I can only imagine how many useless threads will pop up about heat when quad cores come out. Personally when i upgrade next, hopefully two years from now and not the annual phone i am accustomed to, i hope a dual core cpu and gpu at 28nm or less will be sufficient and be well within the thermal windows and limits for how powerful these pocket size devices have become and dramatically changed our social lives.
Crazy world, ay?

mine gets hot up top on my ear when I'm on a call. I found at least by switching to the new 4.0.3 radio and doing a combination of over clocking + under volting it doesn't get nearly as hot anymore.

I'm talking when my battery temp is 111° and the top of it feels much much hotter than that. I'm on 4.0.2 I understand the phones will get warm but they shouldn't from ten minutes of Facebook. If I was watching Netflix using my GPS and doing so over 4G then yeah scold my hand I get that but not frickin Facebook or internet browsing or anything like that. I really like the phone and ill be keeping it but apparently won't be playing many games lol
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I use a SetCPU profile to peg back the processor to ~700mhz when the temp gets over 40c

Delldorado said:
Sounds like she's gettin hot for most people in the same spot. This over heating phone **** is pissing me off
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Whoa, it's overheating? You might have a defective phone. Mine gets pretty hot but the heat hasn't led to any stability issues or damage like yours. (Note: It's not overheating if there's no damage, so I'm assuming by your text that your phone got damaged)

Vash63 said:
Whoa, it's overheating? You might have a defective phone. Mine gets pretty hot but the heat hasn't led to any stability issues or damage like yours. (Note: It's not overheating if there's no damage, so I'm assuming by your text that your phone got damaged)
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I don't think his phone got damaged, I think it's just hot.
Mine gets pretty hot but the operation of the phone has been fine. It sounds like all of the phones operate basically identical to this.

No not damaged. I leave it alone once it gets real hot. I've turn down my brightness to help prevent it a little. Def doesn't look as good lol
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bucwylde23 said:
I don't think his phone got damaged, I think it's just hot.
Mine gets pretty hot but the operation of the phone has been fine. It sounds like all of the phones operate basically identical to this.
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If it's just getting hot it's not overheating.

Galaxy Nexus Overheating

So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot. We're talking touch it to your skin and *ouch* hot. Strangely the massive heat output seems to be limited to just the top quarter of the device. Also note that it takes only about 10min until it reaches 'unusable' status.
Does anyone else have experience with this problem? Admittedly I was warned by the provider I got it from that they had had feedback from customers about it's excessive heat output and other people I know have also commented to the same affect. But I never thought it would be quite this bad. I could fry an egg on this thing. Considering my Nexus S never had this issue - this is disappointing. Are we talking hardware design fail? Or perhaps a bad batch in my country?
If this was an iPhone they'd be headlines going on about 'heat-gate' and Larry Page coming out saying that we're 'cooling it wrong' lol

the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?

IINexusII said:
the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?
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Not that hot - maybe 20-25c

Perhaps monitor battery temp with an app, it won't give you a precise indication of your processor temp, but there should be a correlation. The phone does get warm around the camera area, but never painfully so (for me). Was your AOS usage abnormally high?

I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there

KiNG OMaR said:
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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I used by SGSII in northern Ethiopia (Dallol), air temp was 56C, it didn't like it

KiNG OMaR said:
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...

dccxviii said:
Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...
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The Tegra2 chipset runs VERY hot when overclocked as well, I've had hot experiences on both my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and my G2x, and I can also say that the OMAP4 runs hotter than that! Just offering opinion is all, it's perfectly normal for it to be running extra hot, and it happens fairly quickly.
I completely agree with you that the phone does get abnormally hot, but then again, from my experience, so does the RAZR with a sister chip in it.

dccxviii said:
So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot.
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Android 4.0.1, stock Nexus Galaxy, going on 2 weeks. It's in an otterbox defender case, after 1.5 hours of running video it's warm in my hands, but that's under constant workload that nearly drained the whole battery. In other words during normal operation I am not finding the serious problem you are describing. Empathy out to you.

What temps we're talking about? Mine stays at +36C +38C while browsing web/watching youtube and gets a bit (around +41C) hotter when playing games. And these temps are far from hot-to-touch.
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Sometimes my GN becomes really hot too. It also happens when i'm watching hd video for a half an hour or more. Then it turns terribly hot.

mine goes to 48C and then it starts lagging like hell

Mine gets warm around the camera and earpiece. It's pretty normal, I'd say.
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There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.

Mine gets hot in the same area, but it has never been that hot, just warm. My OG Droid was OCd to 1.3ghz and that literally reached 150+ degrees F quite a few times and is still fine to this day. The OMAP SoCs seem to run a bit hotter than others, but they can definitely handle the heat.

lilirose said:
There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.
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Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.

dccxviii said:
Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.
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It's hot on the back of the phone like other uses have said, not the front where your ear would be (unless it is which is an entirely different problem). Plus, when your phone reaches those temps through extraneous use (videos, games), you normally wouldn't be putting it near your ear anyways. I don't see this as a huge issue. If you do something taxing, much like a computer, expect the phone to work a little bit harder and hotter.
Oh and I doubt it's hot enough to fry an egg. You would smell the plastic melt first.

I've had once when my GNex was really hot. It was when I try factory reset many times since there was a bug that factory reset does nothing in a custom rom. But I didn't know at that time. I tried reset, flash rom, reset, etc. My GNes ended up really hot.

The only time my galaxy nexus got really hot was when I was switching kernels every 2-3 days, and one kernel (I think it was one of Franco's earlier builds) made it run hot even when I wasn't using the phone that intensely. Changed the kernel, and it's never been hot since (I play games, listen to music, browse web, push notifications, etc.) I don't do much video/HD streaming though...

I have been getting that too. Around the earpiece gets warm when only slightly used. Also, I can hear a faint buzzing humming sound from there. Open the back cover..can hear it from the camera too. Is something wrong with my phone

Brand new Nitro getting really hot

This thing gets hot. I've had an HTC Hero, LG Optimus, and HTC Evo 4G before (all on Sprint) and none of them got hot unless I was charging it and talking on the phone.
But this Nitro gets hot after just a minute of browsing the internet, or even just playing with the settings (ie not using the radio). It's not the battery getting hot either. It's up on top of the phone around the camera. I have no idea what's causing it.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Yeah.. that happens to all of us. Under-volting helps a bit.

Welcome to the hell that is the Nitro's constant overheating!

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.

JINXR said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast

JINXR said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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The bodyglove will get hot as well. Only happens to mine once in a while when I'm using it heavily.

It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area

hereric said:
Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast
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It's my work phone, and I don't think any of those better phones would cost the same amount. I had to pull all kinds of strings just to get into an Android. I can't be any more of a PITA and exchange it now.

s1imch4anc3 said:
It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area
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Gotcha.
Does anyone know if CM9 fixes this? Or maybe the ICS update will?

The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.

mine doesn't get hot. warm yes. hot, not in the slightest.

Mine starts to get hot after about 10 minutes on a voice call. After about 20 minutes I have to go to speaker phone because it's just uncomfortable to have next to my ear. I'm hoping that this is a software issue and that it gets resolved with the official ICS release.

lg lu6200
my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing

drumist said:
The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.
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? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
mine only got "hot" one time, when i left it in the direct sunlight in the car with the windows up and was shopping for 30 min or so, when i came back it was hot, i left it on mistake.
other than that i've only had it very warm a few times, when charging while doing heavy usage, this is because your battery gets real hot, you can get widgets that give you the temperature of your battery, which is more likely to overheat than your cpu, unless your cpu is overclocked too much.
if your phone is getting warm brand new, your battery is getting broken in, don't panic, keep an eye on it though and it should break in over time. my battery got warm alot faster when it was new, and it didn't get as much lifespan as it does now, as far as i know this is normal.

KronicSkillz said:
? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
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Danitariq said:
my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing
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congrats your were arguing on something posted year ago..!:good:

Tmobile version overheating

I've been reading the other thread about overheating of the S4. Mine will get warm to hot just by downloading from the Play Store and playing withe the menu. I tried a factory reset, microsd reformat, etc.
Does anyone else with the tmobile version notice the phone getting hot?

I have tmobile version and it runs really cool
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hoangiscool2 said:
I've been reading the other thread about overheating of the S4. Mine will get warm to hot just by downloading from the Play Store and playing withe the menu. I tried a factory reset, microsd reformat, etc.
Does anyone else with the tmobile version notice the phone getting hot?
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Sure - any huge data usage, (especially with 3g/4g/lte) will cause the phone to heat up in the cpu area - this can be coupled with high graphics usage, and/or high ram usage -
electricity generates heat as a waste product - it wont get too hot, but it will heat up.
My gs2 would occasionally get so hot i didn't want to hold it or let it sit in my pocket
My new gs4 got plenty warm when redownloading my podcasts, and durring the first google device restore.

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Sure - any huge data usage, (especially with 3g/4g/lte) will cause the phone to heat up in the cpu area - this can be coupled with high graphics usage, and/or high ram usage -
electricity generates heat as a waste product - it wont get too hot, but it will heat up.
My gs2 would occasionally get so hot i didn't want to hold it or let it sit in my pocket
My new gs4 got plenty warm when redownloading my podcasts, and durring the first google device restore.
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But I don't even get edge where I live. I've been using wifi and it overheats in like 10 minutes. I hope it's just a software issue, if not ill get a replacement. I just wanted see if its just me.

hoangiscool2 said:
But I don't even get edge where I live. I've been using wifi and it overheats in like 10 minutes. I hope it's just a software issue, if not ill get a replacement. I just wanted see if its just me.
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For me so far, the only time it is noticeably warm is when I use the camera for an extended period of time. Haven't played any intense games on there though like NFS.

I find that my microsd card get hot when accessed a lot, but that's not new, same as in my S3.

Mine is hot too. I haven't done anything though.
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hoangiscool2 said:
But I don't even get edge where I live. I've been using wifi and it overheats in like 10 minutes. I hope it's just a software issue, if not ill get a replacement. I just wanted see if its just me.
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I believe there is firmware update that is compatible with the I9505 Tmo variant. You may want to do some searching and check it out.
The main S4 forum is a good place to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2162

Heat is not the same thing as over-heating. These chips have a maximum operating temperature rating of upwards of 70c. There are a myriad of reasons why any two devices would operate at higher or lower temperatures including ambient temperature, radio actions (high-throughput or low signal recovery), and of course running processes. There will always be people who think their phone is "too hot" since it is a purely subjective claim.

yeah honestly is at 40c and thats beyond hot!!
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My phone heats up when I talk to people on phone over 10 m top part heats up like crazy lol
but again it maybe just because of call and stuff but my s3 never got that hot

dtrwos said:
Sure - any huge data usage, (especially with 3g/4g/lte) will cause the phone to heat up in the cpu area - this can be coupled with high graphics usage, and/or high ram usage -
electricity generates heat as a waste product - it wont get too hot, but it will heat up.
My gs2 would occasionally get so hot i didn't want to hold it or let it sit in my pocket
My new gs4 got plenty warm when redownloading my podcasts, and durring the first google device restore.
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My phone heats up when I talk to people on phone over 10 m top part heats up like crazy lol
but again it maybe just because of call and stuff but my s3 never got that hot
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Yep, mine heats up on the top back of the phone. But it doesn't overheat when I'm on the phone though. I talked for over two hours and the phone stayed cold. But if I play around with menu and installing apps, it gets noticeably warm. I used S2 for two years and didn't remember it getting this warm.

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Yep, mine heats up on the top back of the phone. But it doesn't overheat when I'm on the phone though. I talked for over two hours and the phone stayed cold. But if I play around with menu and installing apps, it gets noticeably warm. I used S2 for two years and didn't remember it getting this warm.
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mine heats up probably i am using 4g data and voip app to call people
but it heats up top Samsung name area like u can feel it in like 10m lol

Like others mine heats up at the top back at times but never to a serious, uncomfortable degree. Pretty sure my Blaze would get hotter at times from less taxing usage.

So hopefully this is just software related issues and not hardware.....

hoangiscool2 said:
So hopefully this is just software related issues and not hardware.....
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If you're really that concerned just go exchange it.....

Yeahhh mines was over heating like crazy while I was transferring data from note 2 over too it
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Try turning down the brightness of the screen, I saw some reviews say the density of the screen adds majorly to the heat.

KillaHurtz said:
If you're really that concerned just go exchange it.....
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I have to wait 20 days to exchange it. I could return it but my micro SIM card doesn't work on the S2.
Anyway, I just received an OTA update.....

I've used my micro sim in a GS2, a MyTouch slide and a G1. It will fit, just line up the 3 pins to the 3 plates on the sim and it will work

Left Side gets Heated

I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.

JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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This issue already discussed before. It is quite normal for a device to get some heat. Anyway, I think there is a big difference between warm and hot. If your device really gets HOT, then it is a problem. My device gets warm as well as you described, but I wouldn't say it gets hot or uncomfortable to hold. I think the temperatures quite similar to my SGS3.

CPUs and GPUs put out heat. Batteries put out heat. The more intensive the activity (particularly watching video, gaming, internet use and GPS) the more heat will be generated. This is a fact with all tablets, and computers in general. I'd think it was strange if the device didn't get warm somewhere. Heat on the left side is completely normal, although not sure what component (CPU, battery, etc.) is located there.
Now its impossible to tell what OP means exactly by "warm" or "hot" as this are not quantitive in any way. It shouldn't get hot enough to be uncomfortable (or even hurt) to hold in any way. Excessive heat may be an indicator of a faulty battery or some other hardware defect. But usually not. And the device will shut itself down long before a temperature is reached, that will hurt anything (if that is what you are worried about).
There are ways for the system to tell you the temperature, but I think its only at one location (CPU?) which may not be the problem area. So measuring this way may have limted usefulness in real life.

That is the location of the cpu unit so I wouldn't worry about it unless it gets very disconcertingly hot.
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Im using the Sansung OEM cover. Holding it in portrait mode, mine gets "warm" on the left side near the edge... but only when its in my pocket and its in sleep mode and wifi is turned off. Kinda fels like my BlackBerry when its polling for a tower, it gets real warm. I have a N5110 wifi no radio so trying to determine why the warm up.
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Heat "problem"?
JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this

JNoise05 said:
My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this
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i've installed diagnosis app to check the temp, mine reaches ~40C(i think this is the battery temp) when i play also. so i think many of us is experiencing this *____*

Just with normal use the left side of my unit is getting annoyingly warm. Hopefully they can fix this with an update or something. I'm experiencing this on stock, anyone on custom software experiencing this too?
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Hey thanks for all your input guys. It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing these problems. So far, I don't think it's bothering me to the point that I wish to call Samsung up for a replacement. It does get a bit warmer especially if I have the pen out and writing some notes. I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.
Either way, thanks for all the input!

I agree
JokeZony0u said:
I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.!
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I agree with you, my father's got an iPad mini and the gadget doesn't present warming problems and battery life is much better. Do you think all Note 8 devices present the same problem? I'm thinking seriously of replace mine for a brand new Note 8.0 but if it presents the same problem, I'll be wasting my time...