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Q on Goldcard and unlocked Desire

Hi all,
Few questions all loosely linked to Froyo update...
I bought an Orange UK branded Desire and flashed an unbranded ROM to it. I have been offered a "HTC Application improvement" update but heard rumours about it giving de-branded handsets issues, is this true? Also do i need to install this update before i will be offered a Froyo update?
Next, i also read to successfully update a de-branded handset you need your Goldcard inserted. I have formatted my Goldcard on both the phone and the PC. Will it still be a Goldcard or do i need to re-create it?
Thanks all very much in advance
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You definitively need Gold card inserted when doing all your upgrades. People who did upgrade without a Goldcard have issues with their Radio.
I had the Gold card inserted all the way till I got FROYO up n running.
hope this helps.

Updating to Vanilla/Stock 2.2 From Branded 3 2.1

I been going round here and the web wondering how to do this. I have
hboot 0.83.0001
I made a gold card which seems to have worked out fine so far but no idea where to go from here about updating my phone from 2.1 3 network branded to a non branded firmware. I am not interested in any custom firmware or anything I don't care about extra apps I just want stable 2.2.

I was in exactly the same position as yourself, had a 3 branded desire with same bootloader.
I made a goldcard also but found I didn't need it, I used unrevoked3 to root the phone and install clockwork mod from which I installed a update.zip patch and then a rooted untouched 2.2 Rom and now the phone is still rooted, unbranded and running 2.2 like a charm. Sorry if this explanation is a bit vague.
The Rom I used was 2.09.405.8-update-bravo-stock-rooted-busybox-withradio-signed.zip
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Boot your phone is rooted something I am not interested in really as I want Offical 2.2 unbranded. If I have to root temp to get there I don't mind going hrough the process providing its safe enough. I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.

Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)

Vhero said:
I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
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Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
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blizzard authenticator can detect if your phone is rooted and will not boot Blizzard say its for security reasons but I read on net it's not just this app that refuses to boot if it detects a root.
Go here:
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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Thanks for this will probably try later I don't understand why I will need the gold card for future updates though??

You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset

Thank you all for this most informative thread, and apologies for the minor hijack.
I have a tmobile branded desire and would also like to be running the stock 2.2 with sense.
Will the above process work for me ?
I was hoping to get the OTA updates OTA however, is there a way of doing this ?
Also, are there any benefits to removing the carrier sim lock even though I have no intention of using an alternative carrier sim ?
Thanks for your time.
edit: I have read a bit more, and, now knowing the warranty issues, I will not be attempting to modify the CID

EddyOS said:
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
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Your link didnt work anyway once you click download theres an error as the sites been taken over.

Lost goldcard - just create another?

Hey all
I debranded my UK Vodafone Desire to update to the HTC stock 2.2 ROM. This worked just fine. A few weeks after my sd card went boom and I had to replace it, thus I lost my goldcard.
I want to update with the new OTA update from HTC but without the goldcard I understand that this would kill my wifi.
I'm guessing that I can just create a new goldcard using the same method as before (http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/) and then do an OTA update?

Yep, just make another gold card and away you go!
Vodafone have now release 2.10 and it's not branded in anyway, so you could just go to that for now

Cheers for that boss, appreciate it. Just wanted to make sure that I dont do anything dumb. I'm getting more risk adverse the older I get it seems!
I did think about flashing back to stock Voda roms but I have zero trust in them anymore!
One more dumb question! I can create the goldcard and then copy back over my music, pictures etc and just leave it in there right? I only have one sd card at the moment :-(
EDIT - Bollocks! The goldcard wasn't right and I lost my wifi after updating OTA. I had to downgrade to 2.1 using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256 after recreating the goldcard again back home on this win7 x64 box.
The downgrade has worked and Im not running the OTA update using the new goldcard.

[Q] Debranded, Downgraded, Rooted - Now how do I update?

So I've been at this one for a while, using information from various threads, getting things wrong, getting things right... now I'm at a loss!
Background
My Desire went faulty. I sent back to HTC. They sent me a new phone. It was locked. They sent me an unlock code. It was then unlocked. It was branded to T-Mobile. I didn't want that. So...
From what I can remember...
First, I flashed (I think that's the correct term) an unbranded version:-
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
I then accepted the OTA update from HTC so that I was on Android Froyo 2.2.
All was well.
I then got anther OTA notification about a week later (2.2.1?).
Downloaded and tried to install, but got the Red Triangle with Exclamation Mark icon.
I read somewhere that I need to Root the phone.
So I did the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, changing the HBOOT from something like 0.9x to 0.83.
Used Unrevoked to Root the phone.
Now I get an OTA notification to say that 2.2 is available.
But when I download and try to install, the phone reboots into Clockwork Recovery mode.
What I want
It's simple. I dont want the phone rooted. I want to leave the phone unbranded. I want to be able to accept OTA updates.
...All this was to simply try and debrand the phone, but wasn't expecting such a tough task.
Someone please help!

HTC don't brand their phones, only specific phone operators. If you didn't have any operator logos then you already had an unbranded handset. Having said that, you can't apply an OTA update to a rooted phone as it screws things up
What you need to do is download the 2.29.405.5 RUU and just flash that and you'll be fully up-to-date

Thanks for the info.
I am downloading the 2.29.405.5 RUU as I type.
Will this enable OTA updates in future or will I always have to manually update using this method?

If the RUU installs WITHOUT the use of a gold card then OTA will always work, if you need to use a gold card to flash that RUU then, at present, you'll need to do it this way each time

Okay, so I tried to run the update without a gold card, but got error 131. I presume this indicates that I need a gold card.
I have a gold card, but is there any way to ensure that the future OTA updates can be installed without having to use a gold card?

What else did the error code say? Pretty sure code 140 is wrong CID (need a gold card)
Basically, each phone has a vendor ID. This limits the phone to only install ROMs released for it. The gold card, when in use, masks this code to allow any ROM of any build to be installed. The gold card would then need to be used for all future updates as otherwise they fail
Something happened with the last unbranded OTA update - 2.29.405.5. Even using an gold card the update would fail. Seems Google have changed something to stop people flashing it who aren't truely unbranded
So, to answer your question - If you use a gold card to flash that RUU you MIGHT need to use an RUU each time in future as the OTAs may still fail. We won't know until the next one is released

The error code 131 is Customer ID error. So probably same as 140-CID, therefore I assume I need to use my Gold Card.
I will try using the Gold Card now whilst updating to see if this works ok.
It is disappointing... I wasn't aware that debranding your phone would cause all of these problems. The process was easy and the instructions didn't mention this as a potential downfall. I have my fingers crossed that the next OTA wont fail!

It's only the last OTA that failed, previous ones worked fine so long as the gold card was in use (the gold card can be used as a normal day to day card btw)

Thanks Eddy, you've been a massive help. Was tired of scratching my head for answers... I've been using my gold card as normal anyway so was aware it wasn't much of an impact to update manually... just a bit of a pain of OTAs don't work in future.
How do you know so much? Are you a developer?

I've had my Desire since the phone was released in March/April last year so have a lot of experience. I'm not a developer but I read a lot of threads and this was one that came up a lot when the 2.29.405.5 OTA came out. I do make my own ROMs but they're for my own use (I wouldn't wanna have it take up all my time changing for others!!)
Hopefully it won't be an issue in future OTAs but until one is released we'll never know

On a slightly separate note, can you recommend the best way to Root the Desire... is it using Unrevoked3? Or is this pretty much the only way? Cheers

These days unrEVOked is the only way

[Q] [n00b question] I have a gold card what now

Okay i have a gold card after about 2 hours of struggling, now to debrand this mother
Im on the 093 Hboot, can somebody please link a HTC Sense Rom, thats a generic UK, with the SLCD screen driver
Thanks in advanced
Regards

hey, If you go the android development section, you will see the first or second stickied post. Go there.

This is it:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Bare in mind, though, people weren't able to use the OTA to get to this version with a gold card so the same might be true of future OTA updates

EddyOS said:
Bare in mind, though, people weren't able to use the OTA to get to this version with a gold card so the same might be true of future OTA updates
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thanks for the file, so is there anyway to do a debrand and still get the OTA updates? as i thought all i was doing was changing the firmware from branded to generic, i didnt know it would impact the updates

Currently, no but we won't know until the next OTA comes out
Until the update from 2.29.405.2 to 2.29.405.5 people who'd debranded and used a gold card could update so it seems Google have changed something