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[Q] Send back branded Desire which was bought as unbranded or get 40 Euro compensatio

Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel

Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.

You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.

Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel

There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.

steve228uk said:
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers

Updating to Vanilla/Stock 2.2 From Branded 3 2.1

I been going round here and the web wondering how to do this. I have
hboot 0.83.0001
I made a gold card which seems to have worked out fine so far but no idea where to go from here about updating my phone from 2.1 3 network branded to a non branded firmware. I am not interested in any custom firmware or anything I don't care about extra apps I just want stable 2.2.

I was in exactly the same position as yourself, had a 3 branded desire with same bootloader.
I made a goldcard also but found I didn't need it, I used unrevoked3 to root the phone and install clockwork mod from which I installed a update.zip patch and then a rooted untouched 2.2 Rom and now the phone is still rooted, unbranded and running 2.2 like a charm. Sorry if this explanation is a bit vague.
The Rom I used was 2.09.405.8-update-bravo-stock-rooted-busybox-withradio-signed.zip
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Boot your phone is rooted something I am not interested in really as I want Offical 2.2 unbranded. If I have to root temp to get there I don't mind going hrough the process providing its safe enough. I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.

Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)

Vhero said:
I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
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Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
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blizzard authenticator can detect if your phone is rooted and will not boot Blizzard say its for security reasons but I read on net it's not just this app that refuses to boot if it detects a root.
Go here:
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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Thanks for this will probably try later I don't understand why I will need the gold card for future updates though??

You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset

Thank you all for this most informative thread, and apologies for the minor hijack.
I have a tmobile branded desire and would also like to be running the stock 2.2 with sense.
Will the above process work for me ?
I was hoping to get the OTA updates OTA however, is there a way of doing this ?
Also, are there any benefits to removing the carrier sim lock even though I have no intention of using an alternative carrier sim ?
Thanks for your time.
edit: I have read a bit more, and, now knowing the warranty issues, I will not be attempting to modify the CID

EddyOS said:
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
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Your link didnt work anyway once you click download theres an error as the sites been taken over.

[Q] Goldcard--Doubt about Goldcard usage

Hi,
I recently had wifi issues with OTA update of HTC desire (patch). this i understand because I didnt have goldcard during the OTA.
So , I decided to make my everyday card (16Gb) into a gold card.... Done without any trouble.
My doubt is..
Should I use the update once more in this gold card also to continue receiving future OTA updates ?
In other words...do the phones identify the goldcards used for flashing and need the same goldcard for future updates???
(I know its a very silly question...but couldn't resist it..as I am naive...)...
request somebody to answer...
thanks in advance...
saro

n_saravana said:
Hi,
I recently had wifi issues with OTA update of HTC desire (patch). this i understand because I didnt have goldcard during the OTA.
So , I decided to make my everyday card (16Gb) into a gold card.... Done without any trouble.
My doubt is..
Should I use the update once more in this gold card also to continue receiving future OTA updates ?
In other words...do the phones identify the goldcards used for flashing and need the same goldcard for future updates???
(I know its a very silly question...but couldn't resist it..as I am naive...)...
request somebody to answer...
thanks in advance...
saro
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no you dont need the same goldcard, you could use one for one update and a diff one for another, dosent matter

Not naive, good question, something I wondered about too.
If I make my main card a gold card and use that after using a previous goldcard will it cause problems?
Also is there a reverse gold card procedure should I want to revert my desire to T Mobile OTA in the future without a gold card ?

vic20-ian said:
Not naive, good question, something I wondered about too.
If I make my main card a gold card and use that after using a previous goldcard will it cause problems?
Also is there a reverse gold card procedure should I want to revert my desire to T Mobile OTA in the future without a gold card ?
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i dont understand what you mean by a reverse goldcard if you have a t-mobile branded desire and you use a goldcard to flash a generic rom, you can still flash back to your branded rom without the need for a goldcard

AndroHero said:
no you dont need the same goldcard, you could use one for one update and a diff one for another, dosent matter
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Thanks Andro Hero...
Simple and straight forward answer..
saro

vic20-ian said:
Not naive, good question, something I wondered about too.
If I make my main card a gold card and use that after using a previous goldcard will it cause problems?
Also is there a reverse gold card procedure should I want to revert my desire to T Mobile OTA in the future without a gold card ?
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To reverse it use a T-Mobile RUU, unless you have an SLCD screen!
I don't think the T-Mobile FroYo RUU is available yet.
Just check shipped-roms hopefully it'll turn up soon.

Thanks, I thought I would have to unroot or do something else.
So to confirm
T Mobile 1st wave Desire non SLCD
Gold Card made
HTC Rom 2.1 flashed with gold card in
OTA Upgrade to 2.2 with gold card in
OTA upgrade recent patch with gold card in - current state
If I wanted now to revert for example for a warranty issue:
I could just flash 2.1 T Mobile original rom without goldcard to get back to out of the box condition
I could then do the T Mobile OTA to 2.2 when it is released again with no worries about gold card not being present and killing the wifi connection.
Thanks for clarifying, I think it will help folks with Gold card concerns.

vic20-ian said:
Thanks, I thought I would have to unroot or do something else.
So to confirm
T Mobile 1st wave Desire non SLCD
Gold Card made
HTC Rom 2.1 flashed with gold card in
OTA Upgrade to 2.2 with gold card in
OTA upgrade recent patch with gold card in - current state
If I wanted now to revert for example for a warranty issue:
I could just flash 2.1 T Mobile original rom without goldcard to get back to out of the box condition
I could then do the T Mobile OTA to 2.2 when it is released again with no worries about gold card not being present and killing the wifi connection.
Thanks for clarifying, I think it will help folks with Gold card concerns.
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noooooooooo, if you are using the froyo ota you cant use a ruu to go back to 2.1 because you have the newer hboot!! if you flashed a custom rom to get froyo with the new hboot removed you can ....

Also found this thread with video tutorials, very good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

So what can you do if you have the new hboot from the OTA upgrade from HTC to go back to T-mobile 2.1 out of the box standard?

[Q] T-Mobile UK SLCD RUU Required

Hi,
Need an RUU for TMUK SLCD (have checked shippedroms and links on here)...OR...instructions on how to create one as I have just received my repaired Desire and it's 'fresh'. It had a h/w issue and in an attempt to unroot by flashing an RUU I ended up using an AMOLED one. So before rooting again, would like to know there is a specific RUU available to hand should I need it in the future. I got away with the AMOLED one once but can't risk it twice!
Thanks

I've been looking for the same.
Any 2.xxx is a Froyo ROM and therefore should work with SLCD, but the only T-Mobile one I can find is RUU_Bravo_Froyo_TMO_AT_2.12.112.1_Radio_32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2_release_143754_signed.exe which is Austrian.
Can't find the UK version, but seeing as the UK version had some German bloatware shipped, it may work?
Not tried it yet, might try later after creating a gold card....
Sorry I could not be much help! Like I say, looking for the same, so if you solve this please post! Will update thread if/when I experiment with the AT version.

I defo want the UK one before re-rooting, can anyone explain why there isn't one, considering SLCD's have been around since the Summer and 2.2 has been around a few months too?
Made myself a gold card too, am thinking forget it, just rely on using a WWE RUU if the need ever arises but want to wait a while just in case someone comes up with something. I have till June 2012 for this contract so am in no real rush to root (apart from the fact I want to try the HD ROM)!

There isn't a UK one, so don't root it yet, or do so and run the risk of one never leaking

EddyOS said:
There isn't a UK one, so don't root it yet, or do so and run the risk of one never leaking
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Well if anyone is going to know when it's out first it seems to be you man, so please shout once you see it!

It might be worth going to a T-Mobile shop and see if anyone there seems like they know they're ****. If so, perhaps have a word

I need to root, low on phone storage v annoying, gotta go back to a2sd+.
Anyway, no official tmuk slcd ruu so will use wwe one if I ever need to...hope not now after new mobo and screen! Have made a gold card anyway, the gold card tool is fantastic.
Eddy, what details should i take note of BEFORE rooting? S/W versions etc? I'm sure I rem you stating somewhere that there were certain details people should note but don't then they get into issues later...
Thanks

All you need to know is the Software version, e.g. 2.12.110.4, as all the other info is about the ROM and will come with the RUU (should it ever show up) anyway

[Q] Debranded, Downgraded, Rooted - Now how do I update?

So I've been at this one for a while, using information from various threads, getting things wrong, getting things right... now I'm at a loss!
Background
My Desire went faulty. I sent back to HTC. They sent me a new phone. It was locked. They sent me an unlock code. It was then unlocked. It was branded to T-Mobile. I didn't want that. So...
From what I can remember...
First, I flashed (I think that's the correct term) an unbranded version:-
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
I then accepted the OTA update from HTC so that I was on Android Froyo 2.2.
All was well.
I then got anther OTA notification about a week later (2.2.1?).
Downloaded and tried to install, but got the Red Triangle with Exclamation Mark icon.
I read somewhere that I need to Root the phone.
So I did the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, changing the HBOOT from something like 0.9x to 0.83.
Used Unrevoked to Root the phone.
Now I get an OTA notification to say that 2.2 is available.
But when I download and try to install, the phone reboots into Clockwork Recovery mode.
What I want
It's simple. I dont want the phone rooted. I want to leave the phone unbranded. I want to be able to accept OTA updates.
...All this was to simply try and debrand the phone, but wasn't expecting such a tough task.
Someone please help!

HTC don't brand their phones, only specific phone operators. If you didn't have any operator logos then you already had an unbranded handset. Having said that, you can't apply an OTA update to a rooted phone as it screws things up
What you need to do is download the 2.29.405.5 RUU and just flash that and you'll be fully up-to-date

Thanks for the info.
I am downloading the 2.29.405.5 RUU as I type.
Will this enable OTA updates in future or will I always have to manually update using this method?

If the RUU installs WITHOUT the use of a gold card then OTA will always work, if you need to use a gold card to flash that RUU then, at present, you'll need to do it this way each time

Okay, so I tried to run the update without a gold card, but got error 131. I presume this indicates that I need a gold card.
I have a gold card, but is there any way to ensure that the future OTA updates can be installed without having to use a gold card?

What else did the error code say? Pretty sure code 140 is wrong CID (need a gold card)
Basically, each phone has a vendor ID. This limits the phone to only install ROMs released for it. The gold card, when in use, masks this code to allow any ROM of any build to be installed. The gold card would then need to be used for all future updates as otherwise they fail
Something happened with the last unbranded OTA update - 2.29.405.5. Even using an gold card the update would fail. Seems Google have changed something to stop people flashing it who aren't truely unbranded
So, to answer your question - If you use a gold card to flash that RUU you MIGHT need to use an RUU each time in future as the OTAs may still fail. We won't know until the next one is released

The error code 131 is Customer ID error. So probably same as 140-CID, therefore I assume I need to use my Gold Card.
I will try using the Gold Card now whilst updating to see if this works ok.
It is disappointing... I wasn't aware that debranding your phone would cause all of these problems. The process was easy and the instructions didn't mention this as a potential downfall. I have my fingers crossed that the next OTA wont fail!

It's only the last OTA that failed, previous ones worked fine so long as the gold card was in use (the gold card can be used as a normal day to day card btw)

Thanks Eddy, you've been a massive help. Was tired of scratching my head for answers... I've been using my gold card as normal anyway so was aware it wasn't much of an impact to update manually... just a bit of a pain of OTAs don't work in future.
How do you know so much? Are you a developer?

I've had my Desire since the phone was released in March/April last year so have a lot of experience. I'm not a developer but I read a lot of threads and this was one that came up a lot when the 2.29.405.5 OTA came out. I do make my own ROMs but they're for my own use (I wouldn't wanna have it take up all my time changing for others!!)
Hopefully it won't be an issue in future OTAs but until one is released we'll never know

On a slightly separate note, can you recommend the best way to Root the Desire... is it using Unrevoked3? Or is this pretty much the only way? Cheers

These days unrEVOked is the only way