Hello everyone. My name's Pat, and I have been using this website quite frequently ever since I got my used TILT. I really appreciate all the effort that you users put in to help everyone, its very helpful to find these kind of forums. I have a vehicle that has over 185,000 miles on it because of a forum, so again, thanks for any help I receive from you all.
I have been somewhat happy with the TILT I bought used from a friends friend, but it has definitely been abused before I got it. The whole phone is failing day by day.
Because of this forum, I have decided that I am going to purchase the TILT 2, looks like an awesome phone. I work in the automotive business with a lot of mechanical work, car washing, etc., and I want to protect my phone as best as possible. I am sure you guys would know whats best.
So here is what I was thinking, PLEASE feel free to bash or advise:
Smart phone experts screen protector: 12 bucks or so, seems like good quality
The Otter box crush proof 2500 medium waterproof case....could be very useful for me in certain situations...let me know what you guys think
IF possible, id like to also get the Otter box commuter hard case...not to sure if this would fit in the crush proof case they also sell.
Not sure if it is necessary, but i would also get that protective film from smart phone experts if its worth a crap.
Pocket pouch for out-of-work applications.
Now again, I work in a dirty, rough environment, I am going to protect this phone with however much $ necessary... Tips, suggestions, please let me know.
Also, I noticed there is a wireless "controller" for the phone that has a remote and wireless bluetooth...headset i guess you would call it. Blue vision is the mfg. The only reason I would use this, is so i could pick up important phone calls while working and not have to even touch my TILT 2. My argument is, if I have a 5minute pass lock on my phone, how the hell would I ever be able to use this remote control if i cant see my screen?
Again, thank you everybody for your time.
Yesterday, I was at a major department store... You know the one with the bullseye for a symbol. I came across a stylus for tablets for capacitive screens, for twenty bucks. I almost got it, but decided I would do a little more checking before I plunked down twenty and some change for a rubber crayon.
I came across a stylus on kickstarter and immediately became a backer. It's a magnetic stylus that snaps on to a tablet, or probably any device with some metal casing to it. I know the title says for iPad, but magnets like lots of metals, even ones not wrapped around iApple ones. I have the Acer Iconia a500, so I became a backer. Even if it doesn't snap to your case, it still has a great price!
You can check it out at snapstylus dot com (I can't put URLs til I post more).
The first 200 backers get the thing for $5.00 SHIPPED! (Orders outside of US, have to ad $8 bucks, sorry), After the first 200, the stylus is still only 10 bucks shipped.
Kickstarter is a cool place to find projects that just need a little financial backing to succeed. DEFINITELY check out the entire website and maybe you can start your own project. Good ideas get funded pretty quickly!
Oh, and you can tell your friends and buddies about it too!
* Just want to say that I have no affiliation with this project, I just came across it and thought it was a good idea. I've emailed the guy and he even offered to go to a local best*** to check to see if the stylus would adhere to the Iconia...
If you like, leave a comment that you're from XDA forum and that Shauna M. sent you. Maybe if we show people that We'll back a good project, they'll start making more products for our devices. Everyone knows the Iconia needs more!
Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?
Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...
Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.
Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.
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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...
Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
chop007 said:
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea
Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....
I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.
im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.
any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested
Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.
I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.
And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially
This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.
hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with
I had been searching the forums \ internet for two days, and I could not get any answer on how good the companies Claim is.
I even posted the same thing on nexus thread and it had fallen on deaf ears!
the question is does those products REALLY protect, how much protection? is it a Placebo etc etc?
so how about this:
1- I will buy Phone Screen digitzer only.
2- get multiple product and apply them on sections of the glass, with one part without any substance.
3- let them dry.
4- Test across and check which one does a better job, or if it does better job than bare screen.
only problem in the plan is that it requires money:
so I can setup donation account just up to the value of those materials.
or even get sample from people who have some (it does not need to cover whole screen, only partial).
alternatively if high feedback user wants to do this instead, I can start by donating to him.
this experiment need to be unbiased, controlled, and well thought of. i.e. no companies donating products, or people defending what they bought.
also this experiment will not be only helpfull to the current gen product, it would help in the future phones that you would buy
ideally an article written on the main site etc to cover all aspects.
if this is against the rules then I am happy to delete the post.
Recently a new Facebook group appeared in my feed called "Otterbox is a joke". I suspect that it was created by one of my friends that had a bad experience and that he possibly can't afford a new phone or something. He/she is expecting a replacement phone.
The groups admin posted this:
Mine fell on the side of the case on concrete. The rubber side. it shouldn't have broken.
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My opinion is that Otterbox and other companies have always and will always only support their product, not the smartphone/device inside their product. They can not predict real world physics for every situation, there are just too many factors to 100% protect a device. It's even in their warranty information when you buy it. These products exist because of consumer worry and they bank on that, it might save a few devices occasionally, but not always.
I have the Otterbox Commuter on my Note II, no issues. For this type of case I still expect the phone to break if dropped since the screen is so large it has a high probability of contacting something. Falling from any distance, onto concrete; the force alone would cause most phones to break, even if it hits the bumper. I would honestly rather have a reduced chance of breaking rather than carrying around a bulky full body case.
Anyways, I would like to know what you guys think about these liabilites. Vote in the poll if you'd like.
As long as there's nowhere written that the case will keep you phone safe no matter what, they shouldn't and they are not liable for how the user cares for his phone. Cases help protecting the phone, not make it fool proof.
And, sorry to tell you this, but IMHO if your friend dropped his phone, then he's not careful enough. If he expects that the company making the case to pay him the value of the phone, then he's a fool*.
Have a nice day!
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daniel_loft said:
As long as there's nowhere written that the case will keep you phone safe no matter what, they shouldn't and they are not liable for how the user cares for his phone. Cases help protecting the phone, not make it fool proof.
And, sorry to tell you this, but IMHO if your friend dropped his phone, then he's not careful enough. If he expects that the company making the case to pay him the value of the phone, then he's a fool*.
Have a nice day!
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You don't have to be sorry to tell me that, I completely agree with you.