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Magnetic EVO case for motorcycles

Hey guys. i was wondering if there is a magnetic case for the EVO that would allow me to stick it to my Motorcycle gas tank. that way i can see incoming calls/texts and decide if it's important enough to pull over and deal with.
if anyone has any suggestions, even DIY's i'd love to hear 'em! thanks

Lots of tank bags with clear windows would be your best bet.http://www.newenough.com/parts/luggage/tank_bags/
What I am interested in is a solid handlebar mount that would let me video my ride.

you don't think that shock would be a problem? bouncing over bad roads, potholes, speed bumps, normal riding vibration would be a problem? also, i have yet to see a good bike solution that would secure the phone well enough. my fear has always been it would vibrate loose from it's enclosure and fall out during a ride. that would SUCK!!

SilverStone641 said:
you don't think that shock would be a problem? bouncing over bad roads, potholes, speed bumps, normal riding vibration would be a problem? also, i have yet to see a good bike solution that would secure the phone well enough. my fear has always been it would vibrate loose from it's enclosure and fall out during a ride. that would SUCK!!
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I'm with you on that. With some rubber or foam to dampen vibration, and a solid stand, I don't see how this is out of reach.

One would have to wonder what the effect would be on a phone with a powerful magnetic field right next to it. It may mess up stuff like the compass, the GPS, and the accelerometer. If powerful enough even the battery. I would be careful.

kf2mq said:
One would have to wonder what the effect would be on a phone with a powerful magnetic field right next to it. It may mess up stuff like the compass, the GPS, and the accelerometer. If powerful enough even the battery. I would be careful.
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Changing magnetic fields are what mess up electronics so the magnet there stationary *should be OK*. Here's an option - a rare earth magnet inserted into the Seidio 3500 mAh battery back - i.e. use a standard battery and put it into the case for the extended battery. Then put the phone in the extended Innocase and it'll all be held together. Throw some felt on the back to protect your tank and away you go.
* I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
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And for power you can use an SAE (i.e. Batterytender) to 12V socket adapter from Powerlet here.

I just bought a bike and have been thinking about this too.
I don't want to mount my phone for the stated reasons, vibration and risk of losing it. But have you seen this Sony LiveView?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/
I'd love to get one of those and stick it to the gas tank!

Wow! i hadn't seen that(and i frequent engadget) good find! any word on pricing?
i had another thought the other day. what about using a football playbook wristband? i dunno if it's even feasible but i figured id run by the local sporting goods and give it a shot

phobos512 said:
Changing magnetic fields are what mess up electronics so the magnet there stationary *should be OK*. Here's an option - a rare earth magnet inserted into the Seidio 3500 mAh battery back - i.e. use a standard battery and put it into the case for the extended battery. Then put the phone in the extended Innocase and it'll all be held together. Throw some felt on the back to protect your tank and away you go.
* I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
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I have a couple small rare earth magnets in my battery cover. The only drawback is the compass and metal detector functions are unavailable (no loss to me). Personally, I would worry more about my tank scratching than anything. The tank bag with clear cover is likely your best bet.
Personally, I ride to ride...not to look at my phone. Be safe.
* I am also not responsible for any damage to your phone.

SilverStone641 said:
Wow! i hadn't seen that(and i frequent engadget) good find! any word on pricing?
i had another thought the other day. what about using a football playbook wristband? i dunno if it's even feasible but i figured id run by the local sporting goods and give it a shot
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I fee like a wristband would be more of a pain than it's worth. Of course I also listen to music from my phone on a bluetooth helment, and woud like an easy way to skip tracks. With the phone on your wrist, you obviously won't be able to interact with it at all.
I haven't seen any pricing info, and "final quarter this year" is all I've heard on release date. But hey, we are now in that final quarter

no offense but when your riding i really really hope you arent interacting with your phone anyway. People seem to have death wishes now a day.

I had a handlebar mount for my droid incredible for one main use
gps maps/directions
It worked great on with phone mounted right in front of you there is no worry about taking eyes off road, you still see whats going on in front of you while glancing at maps, in fact easier and safer than changing you car radio etc!
it was also nice if a call came in while on a long ride on great roads here in tennessee, i would see it ringing and just pull over to answer/call back
makes it very handy while out riding for the day

New product - Liquipel - just purchased.

Okay guys.
So I just got my 4S back from these guys, and wow, I am honestly amazed.
I saw them on my local news a few days ago, and figured what the hell. Apparently they put your phone through a process that binds their product on a molecular level, and makes it "waterproof" I didn't think it'd work as good as in the videos but it really does.
Essentially what happens is, you pay and ship your phone to them. Within a day of receiving it, they treat your phone and send it back. (can do the express version for 10$ more)
I sent my phone in on a monday, received it back on that thursday. I then decided to put it to the test. filled up my sink (about a foot and a half deep), closed my eyes, and submerged my 4s. To my astonishment, I opened my eyes and the screen was still on! I was even able to type a message to my girlfriend telling her I was texting her from underwater xD
I then answered a call in the shower the next morning and all worked fine! Its been a week since Ive gotten my phone back and have done the sink trick countless times to impress my friends, and it still works like new hehe. just thought id share, seeing as a good waterproof case for the 4s is about 20$ more.
http://www.liquipel.com
edit: I figured the accessories thread was the best place, let me know if you feel otherwise ;P

heres a good demo i found of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsSPZCGmuY

Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start

killall said:
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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try emailing them? I thought i read somewhere on there site that they can usually make accommodations for devices not on the list..
And they JUST started taking orders at CES, so they should expand the supported devices soon if theyre doing this good. pretty great start imo xD

Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.

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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Ah. Well that might be a problem then xD

killall said:
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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It said it was a mail in program... international mail... phone back in like 3 weeks lol
edit:The following devices are approved to be Liquipelled:
Apple iPhone 4s
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3g/s
HTC Evo 4G
HTC Evo Shift 4G
HTC MyTouch 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Motorola Droid X/X2
Samsung Charge

Wow that is amazing!!
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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blaine07 said:
My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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Good question. You might have to email them on that one. I don't have to worry about it since my battery isn't "removable" lol

While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).

ekin said:
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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It sounds like your completely guessing at what "it" does and how its applied. I on the other hand decided to investigate BEFORE acting as if i knew what it was we are discussing.
1. Its applied via vapor,in a vacuum chamber environment, so as to completely coat inside and out, all parts of said device. The coating is 1000 times thinner than a human hair and therefor does not change the way the phone feels or functions(screen response)
2. speakers are not effected because they too are waterproofed in the same nano tech molecular bonding process.
3. When you submerge your device once coated, water does completely run THROUGH your device. Short circuit cannot be obtained because the liquid cannot make contact to the positive and negative/grounding surfaces because of said thin/nano layer of protection. although it repels liquids, it still allows all existing electrical pathways to function without flaw, and will conduct electricity thus allowing for the capacitive functions to work also.
4. This technology was not designed to make your phone "UNDERWATER" proof, and they recommend not submerging any device in liquid. In the case that your phone falls from your hoodie pocket into the toilet, you can retrieve (and hopefully) rinse your device before electrical failure/short occurs. Its a backup plan for accidents, not a solution for mobile underwater photography or social networking.
These statements are not conjecture. this is what happens when you read and investigate what youve read.
If your gonna troll, at least take the time to know what your talking about. F'in trolls!

Not trolling, just thought this was the "old" method previously adopted (was it by Vertu?).
If you call anyone a troll for showing interest then I guess you would be alone in this world as a non-troll, just saiyan

Did you even read what you wrote??? Words like "probably", and other staments like "naturally closed" make you sound like an idiot, which im sure you are not... but if you are gonna post in a category, wouldnt it help to know the subject your posting about. The information is there and one should not have to ?guess?
I on the other hand became very curious about said tech, and therefor did the research needed to contribute to this discussion.
There are no what if this happens in this case because the are selling a tested product, and have limited device compatibility - for now.
I was hoping that when i saw a new post on this thread that it was someone with valuable information, trying to fill gapps of knowledge, but it was just "what if's" and "probably's"... come on. If you want to pm me about what ive learned about this product, ill be happy to share anything else i have with anyone. I am here to learn, not waste valuable time reading conjecture based on nothing.

Hey smart guy why would you come here looking for information when you already know everything?
Even if I was still interested, I wouldn't ask someone like you (just letting you know so you dont have to constantly check you pm)
Later buddy

Seriously guys. This is to get other peoples opinion about the product. No need to argue

Betavoltaic Supplementary Battery that lasts 12 years?

Hi, I searched and cannot find this topic anywhere, but I had an idea and I'm wondering if its dumb. Also not sure if this is the right place for it.
Betavoltaic batteries are batteries that use nuclear decay to generate power. They do this somewhat like solar panels, only the nuclear material is emitting beta particales, or rather, electrons. And a semiconducting material is used to collect the electrons and turn it into usable current. Right now they are looking at using them for pace maker batteries because the material they use is safe.
Tritium is the material they will use, the beta particles it emits cannot penetrate a piece of paper let alone skin so it is safe unless ingested. Tritium has a half life of 12 years, so they would be useful for at least 6 years. And they can be made small or large.
Could we use a betavoltaic battery to keep our phones charged? Now I know that it would be difficult to generate enough power to run the phone on betavoltaics alone, the output is very small, but what if we had a 500-1000mah battery tied into a betavoltaic battery that would trickle charge the battery when not in use?
Or maybe even just make a extended case like we have now, that have batteries in them, only its betavoltaic!
I'm just imagining never plugging in my phone again, just leaving on my bed stand, its charging away, and in my pocket all day long, charging away.
I LOVE this thought, if it were possible!
I know I could have explained this a lot better, but do you get the idea? Does someone who is more knowledgeable than myself have any comments or criticism as to how it would work? Could work? Or wouldn't work?
Thanks for your time,
-Tom
EDIT: looking closer at THIS source I listed, I realized a company already had the idea for this battery for use in cell phones. But their website is down :/
Some sources: http://peswiki.com/energy/PowerPedia:Beta_voltaic
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:BetaVoltaics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betavoltaics

I know it is long but please read everything before replying
Initially, the idea sounds extremely dangerous. What if the battery is opened or falls apart and the nuclear substance falls out? You will have to quarantine the area. Looking deeper, when a substance undergoes nuclear decay, it releases a range of three things: alpha, beta and gamma. These things are quite dangerous. You mentioned beta, which is identical to an electron. If this is fired at you, it could ionize an atom in your body and this can lead to a range of things like death, prolonged critical illness etc.
You are wrong about the tritium part. All substances give off three ranges of things like I mentioned. Beta will always penetrate through a lot of things. It is alpha that won't. You may have confused the two. Alpha was the substance used to kill the Russian ambassador a while back. He ingested it and died. And it cannot be traced since it is distributed by the digestive system and cannot penetrate so cannot be detected outside the body.
Theoretically, the idea is fullproof. But it doesn't seem practical AT THE MOMENT. Maybe later on. I assume they are still working on the idea. I mean, they are working on wireless charging for gawd sake. It won't be long since this concept is a reality.
Thankyou very much for the post Tom. It feels great to reaccess the science I learnt in school. Please do not be offended by the "YOU ARE WRONG" part. Only trying to help you to improve. You may want to research into the science first. I just get a bit picky at these sort of things. After having a quick look over my stuff I could spot a few errors.
You were unlucky to get someone like me to reply with my nerdy science
Never thought I would discuss this in an Android forum though.
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Thank you very much for your reply, I did not realize there was so much to it! I'm mobile right now, but I will respond more fully when I get home tonight. I'm not offended at all, I'm glad someone more knowledgeable can explain it to me and others who might search for the same question.
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What a load of bull.. misinformation and paranoia. Let's start from the top.
Deftone said:
What if the battery is opened or falls apart and the nuclear substance falls out?
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It's quite easy to enclose battery (or at least radioactive part) in such a way that it's at least very hard compromise the shielding. Full metal casing and you are done.
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You will have to quarantine the area.
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Another false statement. It's not a nuclear fallout from A-bomb or powerplant-gone-wrong that spreads with the wind. It's usually solid piece of material, I can't imagine anyone building battery with amount of radioactive material that needed more than couple of meters to be safe. Tritium is a gas (isotope of hydrogen) and if released would quickly dissipate and be harmless. You can buy keychains filled with tritium so they glow.
Deftone said:
Looking deeper, when a substance undergoes nuclear decay, it releases a range of three things: alpha, beta and gamma. These things are quite dangerous. You mentioned beta, which is identical to an electron. If this is fired at you, it could ionize an atom in your body and this can lead to a range of things like death, prolonged critical illness etc. You are wrong about the tritium part. All substances give off three ranges of things like I mentioned. Beta will always penetrate through a lot of things. It is alpha that won't. You may have confused the two.
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When substance undergoes decay it CAN release ONE OR MORE of the three types of radiation you mentioned. Not all nuclear decay processes produces all three.
Alpha particle is helium nucleus, that is two protons and two neutrons
Beta particle IS an electron
Gamma is high energy photon
There is also (often ignored but no less dangerous) neutron radiation (stream of neutrons)
While you are right that it COULD ionize an atom in body, that's no big deal. If it damages DNA it has CHANCE of causing some form of cancer. Other than that worst case scenario is that affected cell dies and is replaced by another. Of course if radiation intensity is high enough it can cause radiation poisoning, but again I don't believe anyone would build battery that would contain enough radioactive material to cause that unless eaten.
YOU are wrong about the tritium. It can't produce alpha radiation since one alpha particle is bigger than entire tritium atom. Only things that tritium produces during its natural decay (not to be mistaken with forced fussion like in hydrogen bomb) is Helium-3 ion, electron (beta radiation) and antyneutrino which is harmless since it almost does not interact with normal matter.
Deftone said:
Alpha was the substance used to kill the Russian ambassador a while back. He ingested it and died. And it cannot be traced since it is distributed by the digestive system and cannot penetrate so cannot be detected outside the body.
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I'm assuming that you are refering to poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, KGB agent that fled to UK? He wasn't killed by some "alpha substance" but by polonium-210, radioactive isotope. It can be quite easily traced since investigators of the case discovered who brought it to UK, where and when it was produced and where it was given to target. On the other hand it's true that it's quite hard to diagnose. Half-life of polonium is about 140 days, so it's a lot more active than tritium that has 12 year half life.
Deftone said:
Theoretically, the idea is fullproof. But it doesn't seem practical AT THE MOMENT. Maybe later on. I assume they are still working on the idea. I mean, they are working on wireless charging for gawd sake. It won't be long since this concept is a reality.
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This concept is a reality for a long time now. Nuclear batteries (betavoltaic ones) are in service since 1973 in peacemakers. The only problem is that they have very low output and efficiency.
Deftone said:
Thankyou very much for the post Tom. It feels great to reaccess the science I learnt in school. (I am actually still using this level of science in university). Please do not be offended by the "YOU ARE WRONG" part. Only trying to help you to improve. You may want to research into the science first. I just get a bit picky at these sort of things.
You were unlucky to get someone like me to reply with my nerdy science
Never thought I would discuss this in an Android forum though.
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I suggest that you sue your school if that's where you learned this. It's quite amusing how you go on about researching the science before posting when you clearly didn't do it yourself.

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Sorry about flaming, but I'm a bit alergic to people using false or inaccurate information to scare people away from nuclear technology.
For low energy beta sources like mentioned tritium lead isn't necessary. Couple milimeters of aluminium is enough.
As for authorities wanting to remove uranium I'm holding - I would like them to remove it. But it wouldn't require bomb squad, just a guy with tongs and shielded container. If such batteries started being mass produced there would have to be provided a way for user to dispose of it safely so that it doesn't end up on landfill. But since there are (at least here in Poland, or rather EU) trashcans specifically for bateries, only some mechanism forcing people to use them would be needed.
The fact that current nuclear batteries are too weak to be practical in mobile devices (or would contain too much radioactive material to be safe if made big enough) doesn't defeat my point at all. I wasn't trying to prove that this is fantastic solution - It's not. I would rather have nuclear reactor in my basement (I read something about Toshiba making self contained nuclear reactors that didn't need servicing, they would only replace whole unit after about five years) and charge my lithium batteries from that. I was just pointing out how much you overreacted about potential risks.
The only two types of nuclear batteries that would be as unsafe as you say are:
thermoelectric batteries (ball of plutonium heating itself up and thermocouples producing energy from that head - Curiosity rover has 4kg of plutonium dioxide providing it with 2kW of power, most deep space probes are powered this way, even some satelites), since they contain big amounts of radioactive materials
optoelectric batteries that contain it's radioactive material in form of fine dust suspended in gas under high pressure - if container would be punctured high velocity jet of this radioactive dust causing contamination. While this type of power generation is more efficient than betavoltaics they are deemed too unsafe to be used anywhere but in space.

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So we are going to have small Chernobyl in our phones? Cant wait for it :d
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POOOOOLSKAAAAA BIALO CZERWONIIII!!!

Very bad idea. Too costly, too dangerous, not enough power. Maybe viable for sat phones for expeditions, but not much else.

Ghetto battery modding.

The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
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I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.

joelespinoza said:
The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
Well that sucks.... I cant post pictures of it.... Just google joelespinoza photobucket they should be the top pictures in my only album.
I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!

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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!

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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Ironically, my Honda battery is suffering during this colder season and could use such a boost! LOL
Honestly, I can't see how anyone could actually use the S3 without a case. I have never held such a slippery and uncomfortable device...begging to fly out of my hand. Too thin. But there are so many case options out there that compliment it. Love it. :good:
On the topic of "entertainment", here is a video for a new Griffen Survivor case that gives your BED DROP tests a run for the money...

all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?

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all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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Dangerous? is it dangerous to carry a 9 volt battery? Fully charged this is around 4 volts, why would it be dangerous?

When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.

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When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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Very unlikely, I wear carpenter jeans and and always use the leg pocket for my phone and nothing else goes in there, so there is almost no chance of it shorting out against anything. This phone has had this battery since about 3 weeks after Sprint released the S3s and it has never been an issue, and I recently redid the connections and switched from gorilla glue to thermal adhesive.
Not only that but if it did start heating up, there is nothing holding the battery in there but friction. Pulling the battery out takes me all of 1 second.
But worse case scenario if you wanted to do it and you were worried about it, just pot the side with the connections.

Hahaha this is great, love the idea!
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.

ddurandSGS3 said:
i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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I work in IT and keep my pockets very organized, if I was tossing this phone into a purse or pocket with a bunch of loose change or other metal objects I would have it better insulated. I will probably do so anyway at some point but right now it is not an issue.
As a side point I seriously doubt anything but shorting out could possibly cause any kind of "thermal runaway" with this setup. The battery has 5 times the mass and better airflow then stock and the phone can only draw the same power. I do still get a warm screen with this setup (how the CPU/GPU dissipates heat) but the battery never gets much more then body temp, even under the most brutal use for hours at a time.

That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.

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That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:

joelespinoza said:
Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Even if it was awkward to hold, the battery life would so be worth it.. Getting the battery life of my old flip phone would be an incredible experience on a smartphone. I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?

Be super careful doing this. I know that lithium polymer batteries are really bad news if they are punctured or damaged... I believe this is also the case with the Lithium Ion batteries.. specifically if you inadvertently short them causing heat and internal breakdown.. Have seem my share of laptops that were burned when someone used the wrong laptop power supply (21V instead of 12V for example)
Not saying to not do this sort of mod... just saying to be VERY careful and don't risk your safety or risk burning down your house for the sake of extra battery life.. there are too many USB charging batteries out there to help with battery life extension if you are away from a USB port for too long.

nh97103 said:
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL!
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.

Ninolina said:
Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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I added a couple pics in the first post.
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I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
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I have done my fair share of messing with electronics, but im not an electrical engineer or anything... If you are comfortable soldering, its not that big of a deal. The hardest part is attaching the wires to the stock battery, because you have to lift up the small circut board the contact points are attached to, then resolder it back down after you attach wires underneth it. But to be fair you dont need the boards of the other 2 batteries so you can pratice on them. Then you line up all the batteries where you want them and glue them together. After that its all wire routing and ataching negatives to negatives and positives to positives.
It would probably be a good idea to have the main battery completely drained before starting. But having the other 4 with some charge would be fine if you are somewhat careful.
Be sure to pick a very thin wire with a decent casing, some kind of ribbon wire would probably work best I think, however, I just used ethernet wire I had laying around, but some of them had great insulation and some of them the insulation sucked.
If you want to play around with it without jumping in with both feet you can take apart just about any old cell phone battery and see how they are put together, they are all pretty similar. My old verizon LG octane 950mAh battery actually runs my S3 and charges normally in it, it just has to be held in with a piece of tape.
Its like anything really, if you are patient and careful you will get a nice finished product, if you are not......

You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.

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You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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I do agree I should probably slap some insulation on the side... However I think all of you people who are worried about something terrible happening are wildly overestimating the results.... I have shorted out this battery, its not a huge deal. Would it be bad if I purposefully directly shorted it out for a long period of time? Well yea... is it a big deal if it brushes up against something and I immediately pull it away? Has not been a problem so far,,,
This is not a single cell battery, its 5 cells connected by thin copper wire... I have actually used copper wire this thin as a fuse in a pinch, if it gets hot it melts then you are back to a single cell, assuming that the arcing didnt simply melt away the metal shorting out, which usually happens nearly instantly.
I know Lithium ion batteries can be dangerous, I also know how much abuse it usually takes to make them that way. I was around and saw some of these "tests" first hand with Luke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dree...gcnR3aIyzfEYEaOlYsyQe_ANtSuo7U2FsvDnzcBTJK8yE

an s3 commuter with batteries?
who does that?:laugh:

Stiff case?

Is there any RAZR 5G case that is stiff such that it will hold the phone open at any angle like the Samsung Z Flip3 stays open?

Bingo. I am looking for this exact thing, or a way to tighten the hinge substantially more.
I'm not the only one looking for this!

Nope.. Many manufactures didn't go near this version, because of the fragility.. I'm definitely not knocking the RAZR.. That phone is awesome, in more ways than I'll state on this post, but... It's structural integrity? Yeah.....
If the major players who design and produce cases for just about every phone out there wouldn't touch this job, then there's a reason. Probably because most of the case manufactures have an anti-something guarantee of some type attached to their products.. Something they'd not be able to guarantee with this model unless the case was made out of bubble-wrap, and even then it's still a liability with the price-tag attached.
Never broken a phone in my life, until I owned a RAZR...
However... Something just came to mind.. You have an idea.. Know anyone with a 3d printer?
If you have the original shell on your phone, you could do a scan, and design then form what you like..
I'd think?.... a resistance hinge connecting two covers would work.. Perhaps something with teeth? Ziptie mechanism? Non-conductive liquid adhesive sprayed in the gears?
... Yeano.. Don't spray liquid adhesive.. Even though it'd probably work, because of how tight everything is in there, you'd almost definitely screw something else up...
When thinking about this idea, keep this in mind.
I believe the reason they didn't put more resistance with the internal hinge, is specifically to protect that internal screen as much as possible... Coming from someone who's fixed a few, there is NOTHING under that screen, except for parts, and two lithium batteries.. That phone is pretty open, once you've seen the inside.
Great design when it comes to concept.. Hands down...
Practicality when in comes to human hands doing human things with human attention spans attached?
Wrap it in bubble wrap and mantle that device.
Good luck, and I can't wait to see what you come up with...

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Nope.. Many manufactures didn't go near this version, because of the fragility.. I'm definitely not knocking the RAZR.. That phone is awesome, in more ways than I'll state on this post, but... It's structural integrity? Yeah.....
If the major players who design and produce cases for just about every phone out there wouldn't touch this job, then there's a reason. Probably because most of the case manufactures have an anti-something guarantee of some type attached to their products.. Something they'd not be able to guarantee with this model unless the case was made out of bubble-wrap, and even then it's still a liability with the price-tag attached.
Never broken a phone in my life, until I owned a RAZR...
However... Something just came to mind.. You have an idea.. Know anyone with a 3d printer?
If you have the original shell on your phone, you could do a scan, and design then form what you like..
I'd think?.... a resistance hinge connecting two covers would work.. Perhaps something with teeth? Ziptie mechanism? Non-conductive liquid adhesive sprayed in the gears?
... Yeano.. Don't spray liquid adhesive.. Even though it'd probably work, because of how tight everything is in there, you'd almost definitely screw something else up...
When thinking about this idea, keep this in mind.
I believe the reason they didn't put more resistance with the internal hinge, is specifically to protect that internal screen as much as possible... Coming from someone who's fixed a few, there is NOTHING under that screen, except for parts, and two lithium batteries.. That phone is pretty open, once you've seen the inside.
Great design when it comes to concept.. Hands down...
Practicality when in comes to human hands doing human things with human attention spans attached?
Wrap it in bubble wrap and mantle that device.
Good luck, and I can't wait to see what you come up with...
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I didn't keep the phone for even a week. Not my cup of tea.

dimex said:
I didn't keep the phone for even a week. Not my cup of tea.
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I've definitely noticed it's been a love/hate relationship with it, from many people. I get it.
To be honest with you? What I initially liked about it? I could put it in my pocket, and sit again without having to keep it out.. lol
Features are still awesome, though how fragile it is, along with the difficulty of repairing it.. Being ambidextrous really helps when it comes to repairing this one btw... and the replacement parts prices?
Yeah... If I didn't try my luck at the repair job, I wouldn't of ever owned one. Too much cost, with too much risk..
Next one though... Pixel definitely, and that's because of the apps... That recorder is awesome.. Don't even have to announce verbal punctuation most of the time...
Might actually get around to writing a novel now.. lol