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[Q] Magnetic Floatation Holder.

Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?

Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...

Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.

Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.

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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...

Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.

chop007 said:
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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My 2c (worth even less )
It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea

Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....

I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.

im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.

any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested

Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.

I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.

And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially

This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.

hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with

Ghetto battery modding.

The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
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I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.

joelespinoza said:
The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
Well that sucks.... I cant post pictures of it.... Just google joelespinoza photobucket they should be the top pictures in my only album.
I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!

themadproducer said:
Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!

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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Ironically, my Honda battery is suffering during this colder season and could use such a boost! LOL
Honestly, I can't see how anyone could actually use the S3 without a case. I have never held such a slippery and uncomfortable device...begging to fly out of my hand. Too thin. But there are so many case options out there that compliment it. Love it. :good:
On the topic of "entertainment", here is a video for a new Griffen Survivor case that gives your BED DROP tests a run for the money...

all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?

ddurandSGS3 said:
all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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Dangerous? is it dangerous to carry a 9 volt battery? Fully charged this is around 4 volts, why would it be dangerous?

When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.

MCL1981 said:
When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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Very unlikely, I wear carpenter jeans and and always use the leg pocket for my phone and nothing else goes in there, so there is almost no chance of it shorting out against anything. This phone has had this battery since about 3 weeks after Sprint released the S3s and it has never been an issue, and I recently redid the connections and switched from gorilla glue to thermal adhesive.
Not only that but if it did start heating up, there is nothing holding the battery in there but friction. Pulling the battery out takes me all of 1 second.
But worse case scenario if you wanted to do it and you were worried about it, just pot the side with the connections.

Hahaha this is great, love the idea!
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.

ddurandSGS3 said:
i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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I work in IT and keep my pockets very organized, if I was tossing this phone into a purse or pocket with a bunch of loose change or other metal objects I would have it better insulated. I will probably do so anyway at some point but right now it is not an issue.
As a side point I seriously doubt anything but shorting out could possibly cause any kind of "thermal runaway" with this setup. The battery has 5 times the mass and better airflow then stock and the phone can only draw the same power. I do still get a warm screen with this setup (how the CPU/GPU dissipates heat) but the battery never gets much more then body temp, even under the most brutal use for hours at a time.

That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.

nh97103 said:
That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:

joelespinoza said:
Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Even if it was awkward to hold, the battery life would so be worth it.. Getting the battery life of my old flip phone would be an incredible experience on a smartphone. I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?

Be super careful doing this. I know that lithium polymer batteries are really bad news if they are punctured or damaged... I believe this is also the case with the Lithium Ion batteries.. specifically if you inadvertently short them causing heat and internal breakdown.. Have seem my share of laptops that were burned when someone used the wrong laptop power supply (21V instead of 12V for example)
Not saying to not do this sort of mod... just saying to be VERY careful and don't risk your safety or risk burning down your house for the sake of extra battery life.. there are too many USB charging batteries out there to help with battery life extension if you are away from a USB port for too long.

nh97103 said:
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL!
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.

Ninolina said:
Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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I added a couple pics in the first post.
nh97103 said:
I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
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I have done my fair share of messing with electronics, but im not an electrical engineer or anything... If you are comfortable soldering, its not that big of a deal. The hardest part is attaching the wires to the stock battery, because you have to lift up the small circut board the contact points are attached to, then resolder it back down after you attach wires underneth it. But to be fair you dont need the boards of the other 2 batteries so you can pratice on them. Then you line up all the batteries where you want them and glue them together. After that its all wire routing and ataching negatives to negatives and positives to positives.
It would probably be a good idea to have the main battery completely drained before starting. But having the other 4 with some charge would be fine if you are somewhat careful.
Be sure to pick a very thin wire with a decent casing, some kind of ribbon wire would probably work best I think, however, I just used ethernet wire I had laying around, but some of them had great insulation and some of them the insulation sucked.
If you want to play around with it without jumping in with both feet you can take apart just about any old cell phone battery and see how they are put together, they are all pretty similar. My old verizon LG octane 950mAh battery actually runs my S3 and charges normally in it, it just has to be held in with a piece of tape.
Its like anything really, if you are patient and careful you will get a nice finished product, if you are not......

You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.

Felnarion said:
You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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I do agree I should probably slap some insulation on the side... However I think all of you people who are worried about something terrible happening are wildly overestimating the results.... I have shorted out this battery, its not a huge deal. Would it be bad if I purposefully directly shorted it out for a long period of time? Well yea... is it a big deal if it brushes up against something and I immediately pull it away? Has not been a problem so far,,,
This is not a single cell battery, its 5 cells connected by thin copper wire... I have actually used copper wire this thin as a fuse in a pinch, if it gets hot it melts then you are back to a single cell, assuming that the arcing didnt simply melt away the metal shorting out, which usually happens nearly instantly.
I know Lithium ion batteries can be dangerous, I also know how much abuse it usually takes to make them that way. I was around and saw some of these "tests" first hand with Luke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dree...gcnR3aIyzfEYEaOlYsyQe_ANtSuo7U2FsvDnzcBTJK8yE

an s3 commuter with batteries?
who does that?:laugh:

DODOcase Product Line

DODOcase has revealed their line of products for the new Nexus 7. For the crowd that desires a more premium offering when it comes to device preservation.
**DODOcase Nexus 7 2013

I like the look of the dodocases, but the least expensive cover (34.95) has a mention that they recommend holding the device in with glue!
The more expensive cases don't seem to have any superior retention strategies.
I'm surprised. When I made a very similar case for my nook color, I spent time figuring out how to fit latches at the lower left and upper righthand sides so the device would stay in place even if the case opened.
The one on the upper right was movable, so I could release the Nook for the (many) times I wanted access to the sdcard slot.
With real tools, I'd have thought Dodo would've been able to do something similar by now that looked better than what I came up with. (Mine was a half a stopcock fastened inside the cover. I took a hacksaw and cut one of the "ears" off the stopcock, then cut the total length of the unit to the right length for my purpose. With that done, the half-eared top can be removed from the butt end, and screwed in in reverse so the wide end is flush with the cover and the remaining ear is able to rotate out to hold the device in, or rotate back to let you remove it from the cover.)
Pad and Quill have a nice computerized lathe as well, and I think their cases are better than the Dodocases. (Dodo benefits from being in San Francisco and able to invite the tech press to visit.)
The P and Q cases now have a kind of retention system in them, nice to see someone at least trying.
http://www.padandquill.com/all-pq-cases.html
Sadly, only available for Apple and Amazon devices at this time.

Hmm, where do you see the suggestion of additional glue? I had the hardcover classic for my original - ended up handing it off as I preferred my Treegloo case (won't be doing that again) - and the adhesive strips were more than strong enough during my use and the use it got from the other party. Never had to seek out additional means of securing the device, and obviously resorting to glue would be a terrible alternative lol
I'm assuming the more traditional bookcase styles still have the same leather inserts they used before to adequately secure your device. I haven't heard any horror stories and, truthfully, while I can't vouch for that specific model, I've heard nothing to suggest they don't hold your device as securely as a Portenzo or Treegloo.
It is too bad that P&Q don't have an offering, but one can hope! Some good alternatives, though, in Portenzo and the aforementioned DODO.

Check ou the "super duper adhesive" section on this listing for the hardcover classic.
http://www.dodocase.com/products/hardcover-classic-for-nexus-7-2

This is the closest thing I see for what you're talking about...?
Industrial-grade adhesive used to secure the Nexus 7 is reusable and residue-free. Wiping the adhesive down with water restores the stickiness.
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It's a double sided adhesive tape, 3M, that can have the stickiness restored by wiping a damp cloth on it. Should the adhesive even need it. I'm not sure where you're getting the suggestion to use additional glue. Sorry. This is the method of holding the device in this particular case. It may sound kind of odd, but I can attest to the adhesive working as advertised. As for the proper bookcase styles; the leather inset works as advertised, too, to securely hold the device. No further means of retention required.. DODO may not offer the same level of options as Portenzo, but they are quality cases made with quality materials. I can attest to that.
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We're talking about the same thing, it's a matter of how you apply the adhesive to the device. I had not realized they were talking about double sided tape.
My point is that I'm disappointed that the high end case makers have done so little about keeping the devices in place. I came up with a latching mechanism that leaves the device free of adhesive. It still works 2+ years in on my GFs case and both my nieces' cases, keeps the device in the case even upside down with the cover open.
I'd rather buy a nice case that can do that than make another myself, but I'm not interested in buying a pretty case that isn't as good as cases I've made, since they came out looking great.
Attached is a pic of my gf's case after 2+ years of daily use, showing the latches and magnetic closure. sleep / wake by cover isn't a feature of the nook tablet but would be trivial to build into one of these as well.

I had a Portenzo case (and ordered a new one). I never had my old N7 fall out. Even when I went to sell it, I had a good time peeling it off my Nexus 7. Does a great job, cleans up with water, and is ready again. I removed mine a few times during the trial run but eventually just left it alone. I didn't have the wood around mine either, so the glue is really good.
Shame these are so expensive. Almost $40 after shipping. I know each one is custom made, but they don't look too complicated. Oh well. Portenzo people are really cool, so I don't mind paying a little extra for some good customer service, good product, and a good laugh (you ever chatted with them?).

roustabout said:
My point is that I'm disappointed that the high end case makers have done so little about keeping the devices in place. I came up with a latching mechanism that leaves the device free of adhesive. It still works 2+ years in on my GFs case and both my nieces' cases, keeps the device in the case even upside down with the cover open.
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I see, but not sure why you think these cases need any additional means of securing the device. A latching mechanism would certainly not be needed, and would only serve to spoil the appearance of the case. And there is no residue left over on the actual device with the aforementioned models. The adhesive is a curious means of securing the device, and I can understand the skepticism, but it works extremely well in my experience.
@player911 I do agree that even the cheaper models are more expensive than most would want to consider, but such cases are meant for a particular crowd.

Ordered mine with portenzo
Some decent selection.. I have a P and Q with my Ipad and like these better.
http://shop.portenzo.com/new-nexus-7/

Portenzo has some very nice options :thumbup:
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mmegalodon said:
I see, but not sure why you think these cases need any additional means of securing the device. A latching mechanism would certainly not be needed, and would only serve to spoil the appearance of the case. And there is no residue left over on the actual device with the aforementioned models. The adhesive is a curious means of securing the device, and I can understand the skepticism, but it works extremely well in my experience.
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Well, the use of adhesive is (to me) an additional means of securing the device. And I didn't come up with my mechanism for it idly - I repeatedly had the devices fall out while reading, especially in bed.
It is possible to make a latching mechanism that doesn't spoil the look if you have the right tools and time. Two years is more than enough time. One very simple mechanism would be to put one of the wood sides (probably the one normally at the 'top') on a hinge (countersunk underneath) and have it slot into the two sides it abuts with a swiveling peg latch mechanism on either end.
Make all four sides not rectangular but 3/8" at the base and 5/8" across the top and you'd have a natural and simple slide-in, slide-out retention bezel. It would look very, very similar to the current line of products.
And now that I've thought about it, I think I have the parts in the house to make one, and I may do that although I'll probably use jewelry hooks to catch the top beam against the cross beams.

roustabout said:
Well, the use of adhesive is (to me) an additional means of securing the device. And I didn't come up with my mechanism for it idly - I repeatedly had the devices fall out while reading, especially in bed.
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The adhesive is the only means of securement on this particular model. And this won't be happening, which is why these (all their models, including the likes of Portenzo, Treegloo) cases don't require additional means of retention.
It is possible to make a latching mechanism that doesn't spoil the look if you have the right tools and time... ....It would look very, very similar to the current line of products.
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I'm all for DIY, so if you can make a case that looks half as good as a DODOcase - or a Portenzo - I would be genuinely interested in seeing it.

Camera Bump Protection FIX

Hey!
Not a fan of cases, skins, or the like?
I have stumbled upon the best thing that fits inside the lump that protrudes from our lovely Nexus 5X's.
Paper Reinforcement Labels.
Those things we used once a long time in middle school now have a awesome purpose!
They fit inside the white lip perfectly and circle the camera module with grace.
When you stack three or more it creates a nice resting place for your phone.
Enjoy this little tip!
Let me know if you works for you!
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-Romanpower

Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.

I hope Spigen produce one.

redneck engineering.

ohussain said:
Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.

PhoenixTank said:
The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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I've been on the fence about returning mine because I've been wary about how much protection it provides. Looks like I have the answer to the question I already knew.

PhoenixTank said:
The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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Wow. I certainly hope you're right and this was just a freak accident. According to the thread on reddit, it only dropped about 1m, from a table onto the floor...
This is just one report (albeit a concerning one) - and it's still far too early to gauge if there is an issue here. At this time all we can do is wait and see (and try not to drop our phones).
On the subject of cases, bumpers, etc. I'm with the minority of those who go without - I like to use the device as it was designed. While I can appreciate the protective benefits a casing may offer, it's always visually apparent when there's a case on, (even the clearest/thinnest ones), and there is always some increase in size when it comes to handling, no matter how minimal. With the elephantine devices we have today, the 'bare' phones are big enough already. The 5X should have had much smaller top & bottom bezels, there's no need for it to be this tall. I wouldn't resent the large phones so much, but there are very few, if any, decent options for those of us who prefer smaller (around 5.2") phones.
I do use pouches/sleeves, but of course the phones are exposed when I'm actually using them, or if they're sitting on a table outside of their pouch. Over the course of a few years, I have accidentally dropped my phones a few times (Galaxy Nexus & Oneplus One, not the 5X thus far), and they have never received anything more than a few scuffs & minor scratches, of course their camera housings didn't protrude as far as that of the 5X.
Personally, I won't be concerned about the durability of the camera or the device in general until it's clear that there's an issue.

waterproof case

Looking to truly make my phone waterproof but usable for the times I'm kayaking or playing near the water. I use off brand cases before with my LG and they worked great. Poetic made one but now the OP7 pro seems to have ZERO support for waterproof cases as of yet. Anyone see one or have anything? No not a plastic zip lock bag.

Might wanna check this site and see if that's something that will work for you.. https://www.armor-x.com/case/oneplu...ugged-shockproof-case-armband-bike-mount.html
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Might wanna check this site and see if that's something that will work for you.. https://www.armor-x.com/case/oneplu...ugged-shockproof-case-armband-bike-mount.html
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I looked at those it's the first thing that comes up when you Google waterproof case for this phone but please let me know where it actually shows being completely sealed and "waterproof" cause truly they don't show that at all.

I would love one too, but I think due to the pop up selfie camera it isn't possible to make one fully waterproof. (well I guess they could build out a pop area that is always there and the camera pops up and down. This pop up camera is a nice way to solve the cut out/bezel issue but really prevents case designers from making one that completely seals the phone.

https://target.scene7.com/is/image/...7-9240-771227302dd7?wid=488&hei=488&fmt=pjpeg

vsanch24 said:
I would love one too, but I think due to the pop up selfie camera it isn't possible to make one fully waterproof. (well I guess they could build out a pop area that is always there and the camera pops up and down. This pop up camera is a nice way to solve the cut out/bezel issue but really prevents case designers from making one that completely seals the phone.
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I could care less about the pop up camera while I'm in areas that I would like to use a waterproof case truly. But I do see your point but it's still the users option to use it or not

If Kayaking seal it in a zip lock bag, or one of those special waterproof bags marketed for stuff like waters ports especially scuba diving.
Do they make waterproof fanny packs?
I guess if I was playing near water I probably just wouldn't have my phone on me at all?
Might come across as unhelpful, or bad attitude, but that really isn't my intent. If you gotta have your phone with you in dangerous watery situations, the 7P doesn't seem like the right phone?
There are YouTube videos (or at least one) that show a 7P being dropped in a glass of water and living. I've also read Oneplus put it through to paces for the certification, but didn't pay for the certification. Suggesting it does better than seems logical with that camera.
Maybe you could get a case that otherwise seems right for your activities, and use some waterproof RTV to seal the camera hole in the case? They make it in many colors, including clear, black, and grey, so it might blend in. It would eliminate the selfie cam while in case but you said that doesn't bother you.