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OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
Hi,
All I do on my spv m3100 is download the version that i want (schapps, pdaviet etc), connect my spv to the pc and sync it (backing up any crucial data) and then double click the ruu wrapper - the program then asks you if you want to auto detect which version of bootloader you want to use which on mine it is usually hard spl, then the program takes over and hey prsto 5 minutes later I'm loading my programs back onto my newly flashed spv ! I have found that this is the best way for me - the mods will be able to give more info but I took the plunge 20 months ago and must have flashed my device with a new rom about once a week!
Take Care,
Seriously
I'm seriously wondering if they can incorporate a noob rule called the don't open new threads without searching RULE . that would seriously help!
revrob said:
OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
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Hey bro, if you have the oli pro spl on your device then loading a origenal rom with spl integrated is not a good idea. Look for the official wm6 rom only without spl, radio or extended. Here is a link to the official rom without radio, spl or extended. http://rapidshare.com/files/63200881/RUU_signed.nbh You will also need the ruuwrapper.exe file to install this rom on your hermes wich you can find in any custom rom here on xda under the hermes thread. Oh dont mind these neigh sayers bashing the noobs, some ppl here are still nice enough to help you and dont think they are the flashing gods.
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
It's sounds like you've used Pof's unlocker, is that why you have HardSPL 1.40?
There should be no reason why you can't update it to HardSPL 2.10. I can't remember if 1.40 has the same features when it doesn't allow itself to be overwritten (and can't be arsed to check as that's your job.
It's as Scousemartin states plus you need to do a little more reading but if you want to minimise bricking your phone use a MicrsoSD card, you should be fine doing it that way and 1.40 but try to install 2.10.
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@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
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Point accepted!! Sorry, it just peeves me off.. Guess i need to find some other way to vent my frustrations then adding to the frustrations of others..
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
You can flash hard spl via the sd card method. Its posted on the "hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" thread. Page 116. All links to softwares needed as well as instructions there.
Cheers...
You can also use SSPL which also allows you to flash anything. You just execute from SD card.
NP Revrob, no angst here with anyone. I was replying to what was said but not really at the person who made the comment but more just in general really. It can be frustrating for both senior members and newbies alike. I just like to always get folks working/talking with a positive aspect to things as there is more than enough things to bring us down in this day and age.
"it's all good"
Dude
Dalork said:
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
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Dude, I agree with you totally! don't worry about it, I really appreciate your words.. I've had a rough couple days and totally took it out on a noob! Sorry and Peace out man!
revrob said:
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
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It aint you that caused it man, I'm the harborer of frustrations don't worry about it, you asked a valid question and I'm the one that rained on the parade!! Take it easy and good luck
And on your question, I've had good luck with flashing from SD card, Check the wiki in my first link for flashing from your SD card and give it a go!
Joshkoss,
hey no biggie and certainly no need for sorries either, like I said it wasn't really intended to be directed at you personally just was rasing a point of my own opinion. On the other hand I'm sorry to hear things haven't been good for you. I do hope that whatever is giving or gave you a rough time is either sorted out or start to improve for you as quick as possible. Cheer up and don't let things bring you down my friend, life is to be lived and enjoyed. lol I must sound so weird but hey I like to wish everyone well. SMILE
Don't ask me how or why, but I downloaded HardSPL v7 from a different mirror to the one I had been using previously (and I'm sorry I can't remember which one - I've been doing much downloading of files yesterday and today!), and flashed it on Windows XP, and it worked!!! - so that is now safely installed as well.
Now to upgrade the Radio ROM .......
Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Excellent advice... which is why I strongly recommend always using a MicroSD card. I have seen too many people brick there phones and not have HardSPL on either. With the MicroSD card it's virtually impossible to cause a "break" in the upgrade procedure, whereas using USB/Activesynce it is all too easy to cause or have one.
Even if you do have HardSPL it is a much faster process than using the USB cable and saves you the hassle of finding out how to unbrick your phone with HardSPL installed on it.
When it happens bricking your phone is the worst feeling in the world, but thankfully it's becoming less and less common!
Hey guys i am both new too this forum and new too owning a great phone, i have the galaxy mini samsung and upgraded too note 2 becus it was cheap and insanly good.
now my problem is thought that i need to quickly learn whats what around the corners.
First of all can anyone give me some link too where i can find out what the defenition of the ROM i keep seen and small tips and tricks too handle my phone with care and dont distroy it the first day of useage?
like how to fiddle with it without making a neverend way back and need to buy a new one if this is the case if not i quess i can always recovery the unit but still would be cool too get some tutorials for customnizing my phone .
i posted a similar post on another phone i dont know how to find it again any tip on this see what i write all in 1 list ?
google all the way
Sorry, as a member of the grammar police force, I am unable to help you.
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the point is
my english isnt the best but its damn not that terrible either, sir please hold you're comment for youre self if its only complaints
i tried too be kind and ask for help by more experienced people and known facts but if you refere me too google it then why do you guys ahve this forum at all? really the point is?
i ask for a service open minded and you guys blew me off just like that?
now anyone else know about what the rom and these handy tips that can be EXPLAINED in a more mannered way and not these retailers talk bull**** and just go straight too the point?
Chronosphere out!
Hello!
I'd urge you to first take a look at the Note II Toolkit, click here to find it. With that, you should first do two things before you start modifying your phone:
1) Using the toolkit, make a full Nandroid backup of your phone so you have a backup of it on your PC in case something goes wrong.
2) Also backup the EFS, you can do that with the toolkit too! EFS backup backs up the IMEI information and a whole lot of other very very important things that you may need in the future if something goes wrong with your phone.
After you have done those things, you should explain here more clearly what it is you would like to know more about, because I think the people who have read this thread aren't sure about what it is you're asking for! Lots of helpful people here but you should explain a bit more clearly! I will help as much as I can.
Thanks man This is what i needed too hear, just a tiny beginner guide on how to do backups is always nice and this is exellent service !
yes next time i shall not be as grumpy either plus my "slam typings " is understandable if you not only just follow what it says but understand what each word means its clearly says i want too know how to costumnize my phone and i would like help with this ..xD but hey next time
If you ask specific questions and use just a bit more punctuation, we can help you out. I know getting the hang of the Android development scene can be difficult, so feel free to ask, and make the most of the guides on the top of the boards.
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You don't have to be 100% grammatically correct. But buddy this is an International forum where as per forum rules only English is allowed.
I'm an Indian, you know the national language here is Hindi, my mother tongue is Bengali, so in that sense English is my third language, but I hate it when I see someone else posting here with non English language or bragging about how to use another language on their Note 2.
Sorry, I just couldn't resist myself, but have absolutely no intention to abuse/insult you.
Swyped from my GT-N7100
Not sure why people have so many issues flashing ROMs
Boot loops and all kinds of craziness. Jesus!
All that is needed:
Wipe data/Factory reset
Wipe system
Flash ROM
Flash Gapps
That's it... Any more steps are hogwash.
If you flash a bunch of other mods and crap you may have issues.
As to these Aroma flashes with 50 different mods. Yes it will break stuff if you have no idea what you are flashing.
Off the soapbox now.
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that usually happens with newbies
because its their frst time
once u r used to it ,you are not afraid any more....but still its very diffcult to make a newbie undrstnd ...
I am not a newb when it comes to flashing, but i can see that some of the biggest problems with newbie errors come with the fact that this forum isn't exactly the neatest or newb friendly...
I have unbricked devices I've never owned or messed with, using geek codes that I have no idea what they are for or mean, but that was because the guides were easily accessible, had properly updated OPs and didn't take a whole lot of searching to find the right answer to minor errors I may encounter
On the other hand with these boards, it seems like one has to dig through 200 pages of comments just to find the answer to one thing, FAQs are incomplete, and there is no real beginners guide to doing anything... All one gets is do , A, B, C,... When it should be "complete step A (if you haven't done "such and such" prior, then follow this link here), then do step B (full steps can be found here), etc.
When a newb is just expected to know what it means to root, back up apps/data, flash custom recovery, etc (for the first time) and there is no direction/link from the OP as to where they can go to complete each and every step thoroughly, then I can see why there are mess ups
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PhxDroid86 said:
I am not a newb when it comes to flashing, but i can see that some of the biggest problems with newbie errors come with the fact that this forum isn't exactly the neatest or newb friendly...
I have unbricked devices I've never owned or messed with, using geek codes that I have no idea what they are for or mean, but that was because the guides were easily accessible, had properly updated OPs and didn't take a whole lot of searching to find the right answer to minor errors I may encounter
On the other hand with these boards, it seems like one has to dig through 200 pages of comments just to find the answer to one thing, FAQs are incomplete, and there is no real beginners guide to doing anything... All one gets is do , A, B, C,... When it should be "complete step A (if you haven't done "such and such" prior, then follow this link here), then do step B (full steps can be found here), etc.
When a newb is just expected to know what it means to root, back up apps/data, flash custom recovery, etc (for the first time) and there is no direction/link from the OP as to where they can go to complete each and every step thoroughly, then I can see why there are mess ups
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well this completely cant be true unless you know whom to pursue or if u never read the rules....many peoples always post in the wrong section which makes us difficult to understand
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well this completely cant be true unless you know whom to pursue or if u never read the rules....many peoples always post in the wrong section which makes us difficult to understand
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Don't get me wrong, the answers are there... I get it, but I must say (all prior device forums weren't this bad... even currently, I mess with my GNII, a Nexus 7, a Nexus 4, a MyTouch4GSlide, a Huawei Ascend and Mercury(<--S.O.B), ZTE X500, Thunderbolt, Note 1, etc... none of those forums are this messed up (but also none are this new or diverse)
My rant isn't with the Dev's (OP's) as they are to busy to worry about those who irresponsibly don't know what they are getting themselves into, and ultimately no one moderator has enough resources to clean up after everyone
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PhxDroid86 said:
Don't get me wrong, the answers are there... I get it, but I must say (all prior device forums weren't this bad... even currently, I mess with my GNII, a Nexus 7, a Nexus 4, a MyTouch4GSlide, a Huawei Ascend and Mercury(<--S.O.B), ZTE X500, Thunderbolt, Note 1, etc... none of those forums are this messed up (but also none are this new or diverse)
My rant isn't with the Dev's (OP's) as they are to busy to worry about those who irresponsibly don't know what they are getting themselves into, and ultimately no one moderator has enough resources to clean up after everyone
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There are some bad ROMs that try to do too much in the way of mods and many do not see the potential issues.
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RonnieRuff said:
There are some bad ROMs that try to do too much in the way of mods and many do not see the potential issues.
Sent By An Idiot With A Phablet!
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I agree that sometimes the dangers of what one might do aren't fully explained (or realized even) at times. Aroma installs are conceptually quite appealing, but their implementation can be problematic if not careful - hopefully the stuff I've put together falls in the careful category anyway
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I agree that sometimes the dangers of what one might do aren't fully explained (or realized even) at times. Aroma installs are conceptually quite appealing, but their implementation can be problematic if not careful - hopefully the stuff I've put together falls in the careful category anyway
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I have one particular in mind.. Not yours. The thread is nothing but issues because the instructions are weak and I honestly believe you can add everything but the kitchen sink most of it not tested by anyone. Noobs flash it all not understanding why half of it never works.
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First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
Skipping some questions...
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I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
Craiglivesey94 said:
... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
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For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
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I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
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I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
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Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly.
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i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer,
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that. In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA.
DanGeorges said:
If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
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thats not quite the reason i bought the fone - i dropped my old fone and its straight broke! so emergency meaning i needed a fone quick! but yep, i get what you mean, cheers and thanks
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You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly..
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let me reiterate ... i hate the stock of it, so many things i just dont use and probably would never use either are loaded in the background - sense, car, dot thing ... yep ... nup!
i bought a case for it and wondered why it would keep blacking out the screen when id set it sideways watching a vid - background things that id never use - the dot thing!
rooting the device ... 165 apps being optimized? thats a lot of apps for stock! and people wonder why ther battery dont last but then a noob would never know
now what i mean by everything is - digging through thread after thread i read about sim card not being detected, camera not working, imei's going missing, and then theres this thing called s-on and it seems that i cant change that now without paying for it...
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that.
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA
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maybe cringey to you but i am a noob and i'd like ta know and if its contrary to xda to answer this question then how helpful is it?
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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I don't think I like your attitude. Information that you don't want to read is "bullsh_t". And someone show tells the facts is "sum prick". You going to start calling me names too, if I tell you something you don't want to hear?
"Best ROM" is not a question that can be answered. You've already proven that point. Previous response suggested stock ROM. It's "best" for a lot of people. But it's not "best" for you. The "best" ROM is completely subjective. It is dependent on personal usage patters, preferences, etc. If you want a suggestion on a ROM, there are plenty of threads already discussing that.
XDA used to ban "best ROM" threads for the reason mentioned above. They now allow such threads. For no good reason, except pandering to lazy n00bs, and XDA jumped the shark on that note.