Do apps on sd card still use phone memory? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks

paulruk said:
I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks
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same thing with me
any solution or idea about this
thx a lot

If the app is stored on the SD the davilk cache might still be on phone memory, if it is it will still use phone memory.

I think that is indeed the case.
I have moved Angry Birds (13MB) from phone to SD card, and now I see it showing 1.6MB. Which means 1.6MB is still on phone memory and the rest on SD card.

Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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I get the 'out of space' error.
However, the SD/Phone card storage says my phone has 65mb free.
I install all my apps to SD, just wondering why, with 65mb free, it wasn't letting me install to the phone.
Is there any way to fix this?
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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Yes, it seems 15mb is the minimum threshold on phone memory to download and install the apps.
Navigon takes 26MB? That's a lot!
I have Sygic Maps and it takes less than 7MB. I can move it to SD, but I leave it on phone memory for maximum performance.
Try App2SD application from Market (which can be installed and moved to SD card). You will get a nice overview of all the apps that can be moved. You can also see which apps are the biggest.
I've got more than 60MB free space now on phone memory.

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Low space on internal storage

I have had the htc desire now for about 4days and only have a handfull of apps
360 live
batman soundboard
better keyboard
engadget
facebook
gallery
handcent sms
homerun 3d
imusic
last fm
monkey kickoff
voice search
had a few other games wich i delete but now i have no space left only got 16mb left where has all my memory gone any help would be nice
do you have a memory card in your phone they come with a 4 GB card i have around 50 apps and about 40 books and still have 3.6GB on the card and 50% of my phone memory see if your card is in right
Homerun 3d takes 20mb anyway, pretty big.
Also if you were installing the apps while the phone was connected to the PC it may have dismounted your SD card and installed everything on the phone memory?? Just a guess.
my memory card is in right i did have 48mb free installed asphalt 5 and idracula didnt like them unistalled them now i only have 20mb so strange desire need to get rooted asap
alginon1977 said:
do you have a memory card in your phone they come with a 4 GB card i have around 50 apps and about 40 books and still have 3.6GB on the card and 50% of my phone memory see if your card is in right
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Can you share with us how do you manage to install apps on sdcard ?
the phone is superb much better than iphone imho but just makes me angry having to factory reset every time i run out off memory hopefully gets sorted soon
Yea okay this is really annoying me now, i barely have any apps on my device besides google maps, facebook, aircontrol etc all under a couple of mb. I install raging thunder 2 which takes up more than 20mb of my internal storage and that's it, don't have room for anything else. This is REALLY stupid.
It is a massive issue for me as its a really great device, but you can only install a few apps at a time??? WTF????
It would be nice to install more than 1 3d game......
I noticed the same thing as the guys above. Can someone tell us how to install the APPs on the SD card that's in the phone??
From what I understand, apps2sd requires root access, which requires a root ;-)
funny or not, but i had more free mem to install aps on my old nokia e50 phone and all this talk about this issue here or basically on the net, it's just bad pr for google/andorid platform.
it's a lame limitation that at the end will be removed by google itself or by rooting the phone.
and for now... install astro file manager and backup unused apps on sd card. thanks to that you can have some apps installed in phone memory, ready for quick use, and many more backed up on sd card available with few clicks.
pelotasplus said:
funny or not, but i had more free mem to install aps on my old nokia e50 phone and all this talk about this issue here or basically on the net, it's just back pr for google/andorid platform.
it just a lame limitation that at the end will be removed by google itself or by rooting the phone.
and for now... install astro file manager and backup your unused apps on sd card. thanks to that you can have X apps installed in phone memory, ready for quick use, and many more backed up on sd card available with few clicks.
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how is this possible ? if you back them up are they going to be usable ??? i thought that you must restore them for been usable so you are where you were before!
lambrospower said:
how is this possible ? if you back them up are they going to be usable ??? i thought that you must restore them for been usable so you are where you were before!
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yep, you have to restore them, mentioned "few clicks". it's just a workaround till... tomorrow, as there are rumours that root for desire is comming (-;
pelotasplus said:
yep, you have to restore them, mentioned "few clicks". it's just a workaround till... tomorrow, as there are rumours that root for desire is comming (-;
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Coming apparently its here, were just awaiting the destructions now ))
Maybe a mass android users petition or something to google?
seems to me the only major downfall of this otherwise amazing device

[Q] How much internal storage space do you have?

I have only 40mb free internal, yet I don't have many apps at all.
Twitter takes up 10mb, maps takes up about the same, FB the same. Contacts storage takes up 17mb. so already almost 100mb used?!
Is this normal? On 2.1 eclair I think I had 90mb free. does this space affect phone speed or only app storage?
cheers
P.S. I have moved some apps to SD when the option was available in "manage application" only 3 megs of apps moved over though.
28mb internal storage free.
I also moved everything possible to SD when it became available.
I had to uninstall flash player update because I went down to about 15mb
thanks for your reply Lothaen. I guess it's kinda the "normal situation" then. A pity they just couldn't have included 1gig internal for all this stuff.
mcgon1979 said:
thanks for your reply Lothaen. I guess it's kinda the "normal situation" then. A pity they just couldn't have included 1gig internal for all this stuff.
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i have 56.45mb and have 200-300 apps, 5 gameloft games at 10-15mb each, nfs shift at 30mbs rockplayer universal at 12mbs and lots more lol use apps2sd+ duuuude lol
Yes but then they wouldn't have had much left to offer for the desire hd xD Well at least they show that they are learning for those mistakes, but i myself just use old a2sd+ and i have no problems concerning space what so ever.
75.6 mb. free space and i install an app every time i feel like it without considering the space. Atm. i have around 80 apps installed and google earth + maps is some of them
cheers guys. I'll look up this apps2sd+. I guess apps to SD didn't really come with Froyo causeI only had the option to put 3 apps there. I was under the impression we could put anything on the SD. I guess it's this apps2sd+ thing I need to educate myself about.
thanks
I got my Desire shipped with 2.2.
When I try to export programs over to the SD card, they are greyed out. Is there any reason for that? Or how can I move them?
It is a little frustrating not having a lot of internal memory to work with. I thought with 2.2 you could move programs over to the SD card ???????
Cpt_Chaos said:
I got my Desire shipped with 2.2.
When I try to export programs over to the SD card, they are greyed out. Is there any reason for that? Or how can I move them?
It is a little frustrating not having a lot of internal memory to work with. I thought with 2.2 you could move programs over to the SD card ???????
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With the Google A2SD you can only move apps over if the developer has enabled it for A2SD. Otherwise you get a greyed out button.
If you want more space then rooting and going for a custom ROM with A2SD+ is the way to go.
As for the OP, Facebook is on the Desire so isn't part of the storage you install to unless you're still on Android 2.1 and you're on about the update.

App reduces in size when moving to SD Card?

Has anyone noticed what happens to app size when you move to SD Card?
For instance, Rockplayer:
Total 13.68mb
Application 13.67mb
Data 16.00kb
Then move to SD and here's what it changes to:
Total 380kb
Application 360kb
Data 20.00kb
does anyone know why this is?
When you move apps to SD in a stock ROM, it does not move it completely. It still keeps a part of the app within the NAND flash (i.e. internal storage) due to the way the applications are written.
thanks. Ive recently installed CM7 RC1 for my Desire and seen I have the option to move any app to SD card now. Is this a good/bad idea?
jonnyguitar said:
thanks. Ive recently installed CM7 RC1 for my Desire and seen I have the option to move any app to SD card now. Is this a good/bad idea?
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It is needed when you lack space. But I don't recommend it because sdcard is slower then your real internal phone storage.
Also, although I am not sure this is still relevant with today's app2sd, but don't move widgets to SD or you might break the widgets.
shoemeistah said:
It is needed when you lack space. But I don't recommend it because sdcard is slower then your real internal phone storage.
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isnt CM7 app2sd+ / data2sd scripted? if so, keep it in phone, and it is symlinked to sd card
shoemeistah said:
It is needed when you lack space. But I don't recommend it because sdcard is slower then your real internal phone storage.
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as far as i know class 6 or 10 cards are quicker than nand
rayiskon said:
as far as i know class 6 or 10 cards are quicker than nand
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If quicker it would make a really small difference. The internal speed should be about the same as the iPhone's je3, which is around class 6 speed. Which also means a minimum writing speed of 6mb per second. Another reason why not to use it is that it might shorten the life of your sdcard.

[Q] Apps to SD Card?

So my tablet is getting pretty full(its an 8gb), and I want to move some of my apps to my 16gb sd card, but I dont know how, I tried the Apps2SD app, but it doesnt seem to work. Can anyone help me out?
No, none of the Froyo/Gingerbread utilities work with Honeycomb due to the different memory arrangement. Here is some more discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415472
Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
You can back up your apps to .apks on your external sd card, using either ES File Manager or Astro. That makes it easy to delete them and later re-install them.
shadowskater555 said:
Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
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Its been discussed pretty heavily in other threads, (using search will find them) just moving the app won't do a whole lot for you since the data for the app is still stored in the internal memory. I created a internal to external memory swap found in the development section to help with this problem but using a 16gb external card won't be a whole lot of extra space (although it'll still be better than the 5.7gb of space that the internal memory has for storage).
While it wont help with apps, most often its the apps data that is a problem not the app itself so I use the app GL to SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
You have to be rooted but I find it works great. Its designed to store game data for Gameloft games on your SD card instead of your internal memory since most of them take in the neighborhood of 800MB a piece (or more) but it works for seemingly anything.
So far it has also successfully worked for every game I have used it on including GTAIII, Sonic CD, and Galaxy on Fire 2 to name a few.
It also lets you specify custom mount points for those apps that store their data in a weird space.

[Q] not enough memory

I am having problems trying to install a few apps.
I keep getting error not enough space. Free up some space and try again.
Any suggestions? tried cache fixer and sweeper. Still the same.
G-Pad stock rom rooted with 64GB micro fitted
ozzyjah said:
I am having problems trying to install a few apps.
I keep getting error not enough space. Free up some space and try again.
Any suggestions? tried cache fixer and sweeper. Still the same.
G-Pad stock rom rooted with 64GB micro fitted
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Check around before posting. Just a few posts down was this question.
colwellkr said:
Check around before posting. Just a few posts down was this question.
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I have tried to move apps to external card. All I get is The device does not have a real primary external storage,
or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to sd function cannot be supported by this device.
Rom Tool box says the same thing, moving to external not possible on this device.
My internal memory is approx 9GB free my external is approx 18GB free.
It also says system rom: 2.21 GB (297 MB free)
Internal and media: 11.8 GB (9.91 GB free)
I have just uninstall-ed around 20 apps, so I can now update the installed apps without problems.
Now I am going to re-install to see how far I get before it tells me "not enough space".
I have nearly triple the amount of apps on my galaxy S3 and never run out of space.
I just wanted to add. No problems with my 64GB SD card. I have 4500 music tracks on it as well as 4 movies and approx 2000 photos. All work without a hitch.
Not big enough to be a "large tablet," but too big to gracefully use.
Lucien2 said:
Not big enough to be a "large tablet," but too big to gracefully use.
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Huh?
Lucien2 said:
Not big enough to be a "large tablet," but too big to gracefully use.
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Judging by some of the recent comments this evening, I think someone has been at the saké and the fortune cookies
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