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Low space on internal storage

I have had the htc desire now for about 4days and only have a handfull of apps
360 live
batman soundboard
better keyboard
engadget
facebook
gallery
handcent sms
homerun 3d
imusic
last fm
monkey kickoff
voice search
had a few other games wich i delete but now i have no space left only got 16mb left where has all my memory gone any help would be nice

do you have a memory card in your phone they come with a 4 GB card i have around 50 apps and about 40 books and still have 3.6GB on the card and 50% of my phone memory see if your card is in right

Homerun 3d takes 20mb anyway, pretty big.
Also if you were installing the apps while the phone was connected to the PC it may have dismounted your SD card and installed everything on the phone memory?? Just a guess.

my memory card is in right i did have 48mb free installed asphalt 5 and idracula didnt like them unistalled them now i only have 20mb so strange desire need to get rooted asap

alginon1977 said:
do you have a memory card in your phone they come with a 4 GB card i have around 50 apps and about 40 books and still have 3.6GB on the card and 50% of my phone memory see if your card is in right
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Can you share with us how do you manage to install apps on sdcard ?

the phone is superb much better than iphone imho but just makes me angry having to factory reset every time i run out off memory hopefully gets sorted soon

Yea okay this is really annoying me now, i barely have any apps on my device besides google maps, facebook, aircontrol etc all under a couple of mb. I install raging thunder 2 which takes up more than 20mb of my internal storage and that's it, don't have room for anything else. This is REALLY stupid.
It is a massive issue for me as its a really great device, but you can only install a few apps at a time??? WTF????
It would be nice to install more than 1 3d game......

I noticed the same thing as the guys above. Can someone tell us how to install the APPs on the SD card that's in the phone??

From what I understand, apps2sd requires root access, which requires a root ;-)

funny or not, but i had more free mem to install aps on my old nokia e50 phone and all this talk about this issue here or basically on the net, it's just bad pr for google/andorid platform.
it's a lame limitation that at the end will be removed by google itself or by rooting the phone.
and for now... install astro file manager and backup unused apps on sd card. thanks to that you can have some apps installed in phone memory, ready for quick use, and many more backed up on sd card available with few clicks.

pelotasplus said:
funny or not, but i had more free mem to install aps on my old nokia e50 phone and all this talk about this issue here or basically on the net, it's just back pr for google/andorid platform.
it just a lame limitation that at the end will be removed by google itself or by rooting the phone.
and for now... install astro file manager and backup your unused apps on sd card. thanks to that you can have X apps installed in phone memory, ready for quick use, and many more backed up on sd card available with few clicks.
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how is this possible ? if you back them up are they going to be usable ??? i thought that you must restore them for been usable so you are where you were before!

lambrospower said:
how is this possible ? if you back them up are they going to be usable ??? i thought that you must restore them for been usable so you are where you were before!
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yep, you have to restore them, mentioned "few clicks". it's just a workaround till... tomorrow, as there are rumours that root for desire is comming (-;

pelotasplus said:
yep, you have to restore them, mentioned "few clicks". it's just a workaround till... tomorrow, as there are rumours that root for desire is comming (-;
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Coming apparently its here, were just awaiting the destructions now ))

Maybe a mass android users petition or something to google?
seems to me the only major downfall of this otherwise amazing device

Do apps on sd card still use phone memory?

I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks

paulruk said:
I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks
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same thing with me
any solution or idea about this
thx a lot

If the app is stored on the SD the davilk cache might still be on phone memory, if it is it will still use phone memory.

I think that is indeed the case.
I have moved Angry Birds (13MB) from phone to SD card, and now I see it showing 1.6MB. Which means 1.6MB is still on phone memory and the rest on SD card.

Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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I get the 'out of space' error.
However, the SD/Phone card storage says my phone has 65mb free.
I install all my apps to SD, just wondering why, with 65mb free, it wasn't letting me install to the phone.
Is there any way to fix this?
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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Yes, it seems 15mb is the minimum threshold on phone memory to download and install the apps.
Navigon takes 26MB? That's a lot!
I have Sygic Maps and it takes less than 7MB. I can move it to SD, but I leave it on phone memory for maximum performance.
Try App2SD application from Market (which can be installed and moved to SD card). You will get a nice overview of all the apps that can be moved. You can also see which apps are the biggest.
I've got more than 60MB free space now on phone memory.

[Q] Installing Apps To SD Card?

Hey guys,
As you know internal memory is 1,5 GB for Desire HD. And as a newbie for DHD, May I ask is there any limitation or problem installing the apps into SD card via apps2sd or something like that? Can we install every apps into SD card?
Thanks for your replies in advance.

You can but what for?
I have about 55 apps installed right now and 0.9gb free. How many apps are you planning to install? 500?

dr.m0x said:
You can but what for?
I have about 55 apps installed right now and 0.9gb free. How many apps are you planning to install? 500?
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Thanks pal, I am not sure since I have used Iphone there are many apps and games over 250 MB I thought the same for Android but I understand from your message it's not

I know what you mean I have come from a hd2 phone to the desire and loaded everything to the sdcard I have looked on the desire phone and there does not seem to be anything to say all apps or files to sdcard so I presume the desire does this auto ? or am I wrong.after all whats the point of the sccard if its just for music files and pictures and video if you cannot put all apps on this to ?

If you want to transfer apps to the SD card, just navigate to:
Settings--> Applications--> Manage Applications
Press on the app you like to transfer, and press "Move to SD card".
This doesn't work on every app, and it's not recommended to transfer some apps.

Thanks a lot.
Is there any way to find out which apss we should not transfer or the system already gives an error message If we do?

Some apps can't be moved to the SD card. These apps will have the "Move to SD" button greyed out.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Yeah, most games like Angry Birds and Pocket Legends (with some "weight") can be moved to the SD.

Don't move widgets to sd in most cases it will mess up the widget. Example poweramp widget will be messed up if app will be moved to sd, it's due to sd having delay only startup and somehow android cannot figure it out in think
Sent from my HTC Desire

Thanks a lot guys, from your experiences I understand that it's the best only games to move to SD not apps or widgets.

[Q] anything like HBOOT to repartition internal memory?

Hi!
As I understand the Xperia S has a huge internal memory of 32GB, but this is parted into two partitions: One for Apps (known as /data on my HTC Desire) and one for all kinds of user data (/sdcard).
Right?
I know I can move most parts of most apps to /sdcard with internal functions. But not all apps.
So I would like to have more space for apps - is there anything like HBOOT / http://alpharev.nl to repartition the internal memory for the XS? Anything to make the app partition e.g. 5GB instead of 2GB?
Or: Is there any custom rom which uses the whole internal memory at once with no extra partition mounted to /sdcard? As I understand, this is the way google wants to handle this in ICS. One big internal memory for all purposes.

First, there is a SD card, a data one, a system one, a cache one, boot and maybe some obscure ones. Second, as I'm aware, no known way to increase it. And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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Felimenta97 said:
And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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to be honest, I am not sure about this.
At the moment I have a Desire with /data 1,5GB (via ext4 partition). I have only 200MB(!) left!
I have no big games on the phones. Some apps are moved to sd, additional. And there are no many big ones on my phone.
e.g. Facebook has 50MB and cannot be moved. G+ 30MB and I want to use the widget, so it is not moved. Amazon App Shop 30MB, cannot be moved. wetter.com 20MB and this is after moving!
And these are all of the huge apps on my Desire with only 200MB free. the other apps are odds and ends.
So, projected to the XS I would have 700MB free in the moment. And there are many apps I had to delete on my Desire and I want do install them. e.g. the Simpsons game 100MB and cannot be moved ...
/data 233MB free of 1511MB:
/data/app 426MB
/data/dalvik-cache 387MB
/data/data 300MB
/data/app_s 97MB

I, sometimes get to go through my apps list, I look at each one of them, and think: Do I really need this app? I can't uninstall it and download when I need it again?
It may help you.
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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"

stm999999999 said:
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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"
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I get it... Well. I'm running out of options right now... Maybe move some apps to system? Needs root, tough
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dont know if this is what youre looking for:
well for storage you have 2gig phone memory and 25.80 internal memory,
all of the apps installed on your phone if you didnt move to sd will go to the phone memory which is 2gig,
all of the datas,obb files,pictures,movies,etc.. will be loaded on internal memory,
so the 2gig memory on your phone will be big enough for all your apps, meaning only the .apk files are stored on phone memory
and not the data.

[Q] Can't install apps when Tab S 10.5 gets to about 500MB remaining

Hi all,
I have a Galaxy S 10.5 (16GB) that I picked up in September of 2014. I love the thing but it's showing a weird issue. Any time I hit 500MB storage remaining, Google Play Store will no longer update apps. It gives me an insufficient storage notification. I can go in and clear the cache and everything is great - until I get to 500MB remaining again. Then I have to find more space again.
I've had a 64GB SD card installed in the device since I purchased it. I store music there and move apps that support it to the memory card. I was hoping that having the SD card would make the (insufficient) 16GB of storage liveable. It hasn't and the 500MB has only made it more challenging.
Has anyone seen this before and/or have any ideas what might be going on here.
Thanks!

I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.

LakersDroid said:
I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.
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Thanks. That seems reasonable. It's particularly annoying because the OS occupies almost 5GB of the 16GB I'm supposed to have. I'd rather Google/Samsung throw that 500MB into the 5GB they already have rather than tease me by telling me it's available but essentially unusable.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

<rant> First and foremost I completely agree that Google's handling of external memory, or their lack of wanting to handle, or let users use microSD cards is wrong. The way it handles moving program data to external cards in kitkat is horrible and lollipop honestly is not much better, but at least users were determined to be sufficiently old and intelligent enough to be "allowed" to grant programs permission to manage our external data instead of only letting oem programs that ability. </rant>
With all that said the answer to your issue is even more simple then that. All Programs take up at minium 2x the space while you are updating them. You have the apk (the update) and the actual program existing at the same time. Not to mention that the programs tend to take up more space then apk's due to compression of resources and other things. Given those 2 things instead of trusting that the user won't download a 200MB update and seeing it is only 200MB put annother 200MB of music on the device while it is downloading causing issues google puts a free space cap.
I always thought that the system memory is included in that block of space the 4-5GB that the OS and bloat live in.

There HAS to be some spaced reserved for the OS or the tablet would crash. data is constantly written to the data partition which is part of the internal storage and this space is needed to run the device.
I have run into this issue myself, but its easily resolved by moving all unecessary stuff to the sd card - downloads, music, media, apps e.t.c.
All it takes is a bit of housekeeping every now and then. Download an app called All-in-One toolkit from play, it will find loads of junk files which you can safely delete to free a fair amount of space.
However I agree it was rather stingy of Samsung not to include 32gGb of internal storage which should be the minium for a so called flagship device.

Yeah, this issue of less than usable sdcard is also worrying me.
I had a Galaxy tab 8.9 (which came to the market in 2011) before this. It had 16gb and no SDcard. Storage was a pain.
AFAIR, also there is no Gmail syncing when below the limit. Imagine the frustration not getting your emails and trying to find something to delete.
I was hoping the SD card in the tab S would be more usable, but alas. At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
Sent from my HTC One X+ (64g of internal memory, yeah!)

fred_be9300 said:
At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
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Precisely! The Samsung text-to-speech engine takes up at least 300MB of storage. Facebook consumes about 200MB. The Kindle app (sort of understandable since I have a lot of books) uses almost 200MB. Very little of any of that can be saved to my 60% empty SD card. Add in Newsstand and other similar apps and space is eaten up very quickly. Super annoying...

I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying. Is rooting the only way of getting round this? I don't want to do this but I don't think I have an option. I only have 500MB left on internal but 40GB on my 64GB micro sd.

mightywhites29111971 said:
I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying.
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I'm not even sure that rooting would change much about this. With rooting you can remove some of the limitations in KK and Lp about writing to the external sd card...
But this will not get applications to spontaneously use the external sd card instead of the internal SD card, for their data.
I know there used to be tricks like a2sd, link2sd, and other variations... which were widespread 3-5 years ago. To make the device believe, through symlinks and crafted mounts, that an ext3 partition on the sdcard was a part of internal data. It was often cause for instability if executed less than perfectly.
I had this on my HTC Desire, a "flagship" phone from 5 years ago, with top of the line hardware: cpu , mem, screen, but with only 250mb for internal data.
I have not searched for it specifically but so far I've not seen anybody talking about those tricks for this device.

Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.

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Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.
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Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.

mightywhites29111971 said:
Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.
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I hope that works out for you. I gave up on the idea of moving obb files that didn't want to move (way too much hassle for something that does not always work right) and instead decided to have less massive obb apps (games) installed at one time. I can only do one thing at a time anyways.