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Current integration of Android with HTC diamond

I am a newbie to WinMo and Android devices.
I know it is possible to run Android on HTC window mobile pre-installed device, with the matter of the non-working camera.
I wanna know actually what is process/method which can makes Android possibly runs on HTC diamond, and does it mean once we have this boot system, we can boot any Android even the latest 2.2 Froyo?
All I want is to get some knowledge which can help me to step into this area, I love software engineering and find that this forum is the one which most positive users come, so hopefully I can start building sth from sketch in here.
Many thanks in advance, and thanks for the patiences and the kindness of knowledge sharing.

Hi, as you said, it is currently possible to boot an Android system from a WinMo one. But they are some issues left, mainly the battery life. Indeed, battery drains pretty fast with Android (and the indicator is not accurate at all).
Concerning Froyo (2.2), I ran many android systems on my Diamond 100, and Eclair versions (2.1) are really very slow, that is why I am currently using a Donut version (1.6), which is pretty fast and stable. So I'm not sure the Diamond will be able to run smoothly Froyo.
Last thing: today, the only way to have a working Android is to boot on WinMo and then launch a program (Haret) which will "kill" WinMo and boot to Android from internal storage (or SD card for other devices). There is currently no way of flashing an Android as you can do with WinMo.
Hope we'll get asap a fully working Android for our WinMo's HTCs

damien2702 said:
Hi, as you said, it is currently possible to boot an Android system from a WinMo one. But they are some issues left, mainly the battery life. Indeed, battery drains pretty fast with Android (and the indicator is not accurate at all).
Concerning Froyo (2.2), I ran many android systems on my Diamond 100, and Eclair versions (2.1) are really very slow, that is why I am currently using a Donut version (1.6), which is pretty fast and stable. So I'm not sure the Diamond will be able to run smoothly Froyo.
Last thing: today, the only way to have a working Android is to boot on WinMo and then launch a program (Haret) which will "kill" WinMo and boot to Android from internal storage (or SD card for other devices). There is currently no way of flashing an Android as you can do with WinMo.
Hope we'll get asap a fully working Android for our WinMo's HTCs
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instead i think that froyo will run well...because yesterday i saw some benchmark over the nexus one and the preformance were multiplyied by 2...and i saw the internet browsing benchmark and was the fastest browser i saw

So let's hope you are right about Froyo =)

damien2702 said:
So let's hope you are right about Froyo =)
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i hope it too..i love android...i'm waiting for froyo and for a flashable android...i don't like a lot wm

And so do I ^^ I recently tried the Desire with Android 2.1, and I'll certainly buy one when I'll change my Diamond =)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess you are the one trying to cook a Sense XDAndroid ?

damien2702 said:
And so do I ^^ I recently tried the Desire with Android 2.1, and I'll certainly buy one when I'll change my Diamond =)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess you are the one trying to cook a Sense XDAndroid ?
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i was trying but i was having porblem using ubuntu(no ethernet,no wireless and some other things) so when i will resolve those problem i will start

so haret in fact is a simulator?? just to provide a simulated environment to run Android?

If I'm right, Haret isn't a simulator. It is a program which, launched under WinMo, will kill all WinMo processes and boot on internal storage with Android files. Have you ever tried it?

if you want to try it the easy way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5420781#post5420781
there is an cab to download, just install it
than you can run android
bewhare, android uses a huge amount of internetactivity ( maybe it costs money with your telephon provider )
or just for testing remove the sim card...
its the easy way to run android, for multiboot
you need to install a multibootmanager on your phone
for me there are some problems with android on the diamond,
i get sometimes time outs of some programs, but its possible to use it... and test it...
maybe some thing in settings but i tryed it only for some hours ( telephonprovier... i got only 300 minutes of mobile internet connection for free )
but remember, back up your data...

[Q] I am new to flashing ROM, but my phone isn't.

I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.

Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.

Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated

haus en heimer said:
Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.

What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?

ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.

What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?

USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.

Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.

It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.

Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.

How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!

haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.

redpoint73 said:
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.

haus en heimer said:
If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!

redpoint73 said:
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.

Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.

Noob with AT&T Tilt

So I'm a noob here as you can tell by my post count. I recently got a AT&T Tilt. I know the phone is old, but I would like to make it more user friendly. The version of Windows Mobile on there is hard to use and slow. I feel that there maybe an android rom that would suit my needs. I just use the phone,text, and facebook. I won't really be playing games or anything like that. WIfi would be nice, but not necessary.
I have installed on a SD card Myn's Warm Donut RLS 5 on the phone. It seems to run okay, but you can't talk on the phone. Like the mic doesn't work. What would be a good version or rom for me? I know this probably gets asked a lot. Last question does android run better when its on the actual phone vs. a memory card.
Thanks.

I'm not sure about the kernel and all that nonsense. For the Valentine RLS can I use stock base files? I got Myn's Warm donut to work, but I can't get anything newer to work.

I can answer the SD card/NAND question only one way...
The phone works and responds much better when the /andboot and /data are on the NAND in the phone itself.
I have had NO issues with Thoughtlesskyle's "Fat Free Froyo", not even so much as a hiccup, and this is with the .25 kernel installed on the phone.
Sure, theres not much room left for apps, but if you're only using it for text, phone and internet, that shouldn't be an issue.
BTW, the wireless works fine as long as you install the update for it.
Camera is a bit fidgity but usable, and you will need to back up the /data from your phone once evrything is working right. I back mine up weekly, but I have never had to do a restore.
Do some more research, make your own decisions, but most of all have fun with it.

I guess you have to use A Tools any time you want to change the droid os on the phone?

billymild said:
I guess you have to use A Tools any time you want to change the droid os on the phone?
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Atools is only for those who can understand what to do
You only need to know correct Device, keyboard type and Panel Type in order to make android work. E.g a Froyo/Eclair kernel cannot work on Donut.
Also, mic/camera related issues are due to older radio version. Get a radio version 1.65.x or higher, and you need HARD SPL v3.29 or higher to do flashing job. I will never recommend a ForceUSB HardSPL

Under-clocking - how slow can we go?

Hi all.
This may seem an odd question but can anyone advise on slowing down the clock-speed on the TP2? I want to try out various options for conserving battery life when using the GPS and maps in the mountains away from power sources for a few days. I only need a fix and screen update every 15m or so and it takes a number of seconds to walk that distance. With the backlight set to switch off quickly and brighten up on a screen tap, and the baud rate on the GPS set way down I'm hoping I won't have to carry too many spare batteries for a trip lasting a week.
Some questions: not too dumb I hope.
-Is it possible to change clock-speed on the fly without a reboot?
-Does the Gen-Y bootloader get around the unsigned apps issue?
-Is using MM-Mapper under a low speed Android setup going to conserve battery life better?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.

Uh, what?
This was posted in the WinMo section. Are you talking about underclocking WinMo or Android?
SetCPU for Android, which I know you can set any number of metrics on underclocking, depending on condition, etc... But this isn't the Android section.
I only know of WinMo Speed app for WinMo. I'm pretty sure it can underclock, but it seems it cannot adjust dynamically like Android does.
With that said, WinMo sips battery compared to Android. Some have said WinMo can go weeks (on a good battery, in airplane mode). I don't think anyone's gone over 65 hours on a single charge of Android, and that was again airplane mode. Android basically idling for 65 hours.
All Gen.Y does is boot Android. No clue what you mean or why you would think it would get around any "unsigned app" issue. It's just a fancy app that clicks HaRET.exe for you.

arrrghhh said:
Uh, what?
This was posted in the WinMo section. Are you talking about underclocking WinMo or Android?.
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I was enquiring about both OS's, their configurability and relative power consumptions.
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SetCPU for Android, which I know you can set any number of metrics on underclocking, depending on condition, etc... But this isn't the Android section..
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Noted, I'll start another thread in the Android section when I get that far with my install.
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I only know of WinMo Speed app for WinMo. I'm pretty sure it can underclock, but it seems it cannot adjust dynamically like Android does..
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Thanks for the link.
I'm uncertain about the developer's acronyms. WM=Window Manager in the linux world but what does it mean here? Windows Mobile?
"TECHNIQUE
Basically WiMoSpeed is hardware-independent, because it lets WM change clock speed. But I couldn't get WM to switch the clock reliable on request so WiMoSpeed had to switch the clock registers itself on setting a new speed.
Therefore WiMoSpeed depends on CPU-hardware, RADIO- and OS-ROM.
Raising or lowering cpu speed didn't change battery drain or device temperature noticeable. So there isn't dynamic clocking in WiMoSpeed, but WM is still controlling and changing cpu-speed on battery."
Looks like it's not going to make much difference anyway.
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With that said, WinMo sips battery compared to Android. Some have said WinMo can go weeks (on a good battery, in airplane mode). I don't think anyone's gone over 65 hours on a single charge of Android, and that was again airplane mode. Android basically idling for 65 hours.
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Good info, thanks. Maybe MM Mapper's developer might consider compiling a linux version which will run on a simple tinylinux style Rhobuntu kernel. Which section can I discuss linux in by the way?
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All Gen.Y does is boot Android. No clue what you mean or why you would think it would get around any "unsigned app" issue. It's just a fancy app that clicks HaRET.exe for you.
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I'd read that it was thought that the way HaRET kicked WinMo out of RAM might be the cause of the problems with unsigned apps afterwards. I wondered if GEN-Y, by booting Android 'from cold' without WinMo being already resident might get around the issue. Much to learn, sorry to trouble you.

map-maker said:
Thanks for the link.
I'm uncertain about the developer's acronyms. WM=Window Manager in the linux world but what does it mean here? Windows Mobile?
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WM, WinMo, Windows Mobile... it's all the same. Everyone uses something different it seems.
map-maker said:
Good info, thanks. Maybe MM Mapper's developer might consider compiling a linux version which will run on a simple tinylinux style Rhobuntu kernel. Which section can I discuss linux in by the way?
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Sounds incredibly painful, and not very useful. I have no clue what MM Mapper is - link?
map-maker said:
I'd read that it was thought that the way HaRET kicked WinMo out of RAM might be the cause of the problems with unsigned apps afterwards. I wondered if GEN-Y, by booting Android 'from cold' without WinMo being already resident might get around the issue. Much to learn, sorry to trouble you.
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No clue what you mean about unsigned apps. Never had a problem with it, but it sounds like a WinMo issue.
You have to use WinMo to run HaRET. HaRET is a WinMo application... . So Gen.Y is a fancy way to click HaRET.exe, and HaRET is a Windows Mobile application... yea.

arrrghhh said:
Sounds incredibly painful, and not very useful.
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Optimisation is never easy.
arrrghhh said:
I have no clue what MM Mapper is - link?
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My bad, it's MM Tracker not MM Mapper https://sites.google.com/site/mmtrackerinfo/
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No clue what you mean about unsigned apps. Never had a problem with it, but it sounds like a WinMo issue.
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I read about it in the thread on Rhobuntu, and I think I came across someone mentioning a similar difficulty with Android when either is started with HaRET.exe
"After booting back into WinMo, you can't install or run unsigned apps. This problem probably has something to do with the way haret kicks WinMo out of the RAM. It also seems to occur only in combination with the use of Exchange Server. The only known solution at the moment is Hard Reset."
at the first bullet point here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_on_the_Rhodium#Important_-_Read_First
It looks less serious with Android:
"* You need to be able to run unsigned apps, as the Haret launcher is not signed."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648045

map-maker said:
My bad, it's MM Tracker not MM Mapper https://sites.google.com/site/mmtrackerinfo/
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I don't see why you would want this for Linux, since it runs on Android .
map-maker said:
I read about it in the thread on Rhobuntu, and I think I came across someone mentioning a similar difficulty with Android when either is started with HaRET.exe
"After booting back into WinMo, you can't install or run unsigned apps. This problem probably has something to do with the way haret kicks WinMo out of the RAM. It also seems to occur only in combination with the use of Exchange Server. The only known solution at the moment is Hard Reset."
at the first bullet point here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_on_the_Rhodium#Important_-_Read_First
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I know 0 about running Ubuntu on a TP2. Seemed completely useless, and I never even attempted it.
map-maker said:
It looks less serious with Android:
"* You need to be able to run unsigned apps, as the Haret launcher is not signed."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648045
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You're quoting ancient posts... I've personally never had an issue with 'running unsigned apps'. I've used a few different versions of EnergyROM, and I've never had a problem with HaRET starting.

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I don't see why you would want this for Linux, since it runs on Android .
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I'm an old hand with small efficient linux kernels, I have come over from devices like the Nokia N810 running Maemo and older slower kit like Sun Sparc. I know squat about Android, apart from that it is basically linux with some stuff Google will never tell us about. Which is par for the course; there are bits of Maemo Nokia wouldn't tell us about either...
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I know 0 about running Ubuntu on a TP2. Seemed completely useless, and I never even attempted it.
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It works, but unsigned apps won't run on the WM afterwards without a hard reset and reload under the standard ROM if you use MS exchange (I do).
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You're quoting ancient posts... I've personally never had an issue with 'running unsigned apps'. I've used a few different versions of EnergyROM, and I've never had a problem with HaRET starting.
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Yes, very nice cookery there. I'm impressed, and will probably start by reflashing with the lightest EnergyROM and then test RHObuntu with HaRET.exe and see what gives. Then I'll roll my sleeves up and load up a microSD with Android and MM Tracker and compare battery life with WM and Memory Map .
Apols for quoting old posts, it's a bit daunting for a N00b who is trying to start at the beginning and catch up.

[Q] How is android supposed to run?

I have tried both a Froyo variant and a Gingerbread variant on my Diamond but for me its not usable at all .. It lockups every 30 seconds for like 1 minute. Just when my devices screen goes black i am barely able to turn it back on again.
Now im not complaining about the devs work here, dont take it that way.. I just want to know if its supposed to run this way or if its something i do wrong?

Da9L said:
I have tried both a Froyo variant and a Gingerbread variant on my Diamond but for me its not usable at all .. It lockups every 30 seconds for like 1 minute. Just when my devices screen goes black i am barely able to turn it back on again.
Now im not complaining about the devs work here, dont take it that way.. I just want to know if its supposed to run this way or if its something i do wrong?
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try to install android rom on your device's internal storage and use GenYDualBoot to be able to run it from windows !

Hakim Rahman said:
try to install android rom on your device's internal storage and use GenYDualBoot to be able to run it from windows !
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Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.

Lipinsky said:
Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.
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I have two 2 months applying it to my Htc diamond {dual boot = Eto.Y 2.4a WWE + XDAndroid FRX07.1 (on internal storage)}

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Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.
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The usability has definitely increased over the years but it is still more a concept than a real operating system as the hardware and software dont work together very well. This is because there are no official kernels, drivers or anything provided by HTC. The xdandroid team has done an incredible work to get android running on this device, but they couldnt find a way to properly get android on the NAND because the storage is too small. Thats also why you have to start it via windows mobile and cant directly boot to it, it runs out of the SD Card. So you will never achieve a nice performance as long as the OS isnt located on the NAND. The lags and force closes you are certainly experiencing derive from this problem. The device itself would definitely have the power to run android at an acceptable performance.
As far as I know the development has ceased. If you search the corresponding threads you will find the statement of the devs. Here is were you can look:
Froyo, Gingerbread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981
Froyo 07: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951811
Gingerbread 0A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692
wiki: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page
blog: http://southcape.org/category/android/

yeah development seems to be halted, its nice to play with, but not as main os for day to day use