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N00B question about ROMs (not asking for advice!).

So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?

EWAdams said:
So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?
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I shouldn't be answering 'cause I don't know much....
...but I think your characterization is more-or-less correct.
AFAIK, since WM is not open source, nobody re-writes the WM guts of these roms...nor re-writes HTC Sense.
The Windows Mobile Development and Hacking board probably has definitive answers.

EWAdams said:
So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?
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You are correct, these ROMs take what the Chef considers the best of various versions and combines them, plus they add the extra (free) tools that they deem to be the best. Then they cook them together and tweak the results until it is stable for the target device. So it is "pick and choose" components, based on a specific WM 6.x version.

stevedebi said:
You are correct, these ROMs take what the Chef considers the best of various versions and combines them, plus they add the extra (free) tools that they deem to be the best. Then they cook them together and tweak the results until it is stable for the target device. So it is "pick and choose" components, based on a specific WM 6.x version.
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Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.

EWAdams said:
Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.
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Well...the stock rom is fine if you like it. But the best custom roms do have some significant differences -- improvements, in many opinions -- over the stock rom....more than just reg tweaks. No, not modifications to the actual WM code, but significant things that make a difference in speed, etc. I'm not a rom cook, so I can't tell you exactly how or what. But as a rom user I know what I like.
I have no interest in trying to convince anyone...just sayin.

How did you choose yours?
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Well...the stock rom is fine if you like it. But the best custom roms do have some significant differences -- improvements, in many opinions -- over the stock rom....more than just reg tweaks. No, not modifications to the actual WM code, but significant things that make a difference in speed, etc. I'm not a rom cook, so I can't tell you exactly how or what. But as a rom user I know what I like.
I have no interest in trying to convince anyone...just sayin.
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Speed and battery life are what I'm chiefly interested in, and you can usually improve both by clobbering unnecessary background processes. I want a system that's lean and mean.
I see you use Valkyrie. What made you choose that one in particular? Just curious.

EWAdams said:
Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.
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I use Energy ROMS, and he cooks in lots of neat extras. For example, Total Commander is cooked in, and there are several other utilities and applications, like the GPS tools that test the GPS connection.
I do find that I have to tweak the battery, advanced settings, and B&B Tweaks to get the battery life where I want. But the ROM is really great for usability.

EWAdams said:
Speed and battery life are what I'm chiefly interested in, and you can usually improve both by clobbering unnecessary background processes. I want a system that's lean and mean.
I see you use Valkyrie. What made you choose that one in particular? Just curious.
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Newcomers to Valky roms usually comment on how fast it is -- "wow yow" and all that. I've been an exclusively-Valky user for so long -- 5 or 6 months -- that I don't really have anything to compare it to anymore...but it certainly seems plenty fast. And the new releases are definitely faster than those from, say, a couple of months ago. I should mention that I only run Valky versions that are based on WM6.5.5 with Sense 2.5, so I can't comment on other flavors.
I'd say that rom-cook agent_47's Valkyrie roms are a little more spare -- less stuff built in -- than NRGZ28's NRG roms...and that's fine with me -- may help speed.
I also have to say that cook agent_47 genuinely seems like a nice guy. If people post bug-reports he posts fixes ASAP (as much as his school duties permit)...instead of telling them to bggr-off. I'm not saying other chefs aren't helpful...just that agent_47 is particularly so. And that matters to me.
After a long time on one cook's rom, people (me, but not just me) get so used to that cooks style that another rom may objectively be as-good-or-better but it won't seem so because it's different than what one is used to. I discovered this when a long-time NRG user and I "swapped" roms and tried the other guy's fave. Neither of us could stand it for long (like, less than a day) and switched back to the rom-line to which we'd become accustomed.

Thanks for the info. Alas, I have a Sprint CDMA phone, and it doesn't look as if the Valkyrie ROM is available for it. Guess I'll have to check out the Energy ROM.

I tried my first ROM yesterday (Energy) and the difference is night and day. It is honestly like a new phone....snappy and clean...heck it looks better than the SPB shell which I bought too quickly instead of trying ROMS first lol

shaolin95 said:
I tried my first ROM yesterday (Energy) and the difference is night and day. It is honestly like a new phone....snappy and clean...heck it looks better than the SPB shell which I bought too quickly instead of trying ROMS first lol
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It also uses way more memory than Mobile shell.
Personally, though I own MS and download NRG CHT 2.5, I disable all of them and simply use SPB Pocket Plus. Not flashy, but very functional.
If I weren't using that, I would use SPB Mobile shell - but you have to customize it to fit YOUR needs, or the capabilities are wasted. Also, check out Vostradamus application to customize the MS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574264

OK, next stupid question.
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.

EWAdams said:
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.
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Yes you lose all your programs and files. But only the files that are stored on your phone memory. Not the ones on the SD card.
Most roms have some sort of autoinstall. This way the apps will be installed automatic.

stevedebi said:
It also uses way more memory than Mobile shell.
Personally, though I own MS and download NRG CHT 2.5, I disable all of them and simply use SPB Pocket Plus. Not flashy, but very functional.
If I weren't using that, I would use SPB Mobile shell - but you have to customize it to fit YOUR needs, or the capabilities are wasted. Also, check out Vostradamus application to customize the MS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574264
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Well, it may use more memory as you say but the end result is the same to me, a better looking , faster, snappier phone so more or less memory, it still beats the crap out of my previous configuration.

EWAdams said:
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.
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As other post suggested, some/many roms support an automatic-restore function call "User Customization" -- UC for short. It works such that after the new-rom-flash is complete UC reinstalls all of your apps and saved registry settings from a couple of folders on your sd card. I've only used the version that comes with the Valkyrie roms, "Silent UC", and it works fine, automatically, without requiring input from me.
There's another type of app/everything-restoring app called Sashimi. It's more-powerful, but I haven't bothered to learn it as silentUC works well for my purposes.

MCbrian said:
As other post suggested, some/many roms support an automatic-restore function call "User Customization" -- UC for short. It works such that after the new-rom-flash is complete UC reinstalls all of your apps and saved registry settings from a couple of folders on your sd card. I've only used the version that comes with the Valkyrie roms, "Silent UC", and it works fine, automatically, without requiring input from me.
There's another type of app/everything-restoring app called Sashimi. It's more-powerful, but I haven't bothered to learn it as silentUC works well for my purposes.
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Many thanks. It looks as if it's just a question of having the CAB files available on the SD card, and a configuration file. Sounds pretty straightforward, although presumably I have to find all the keys that my applications set in the registry, too, and turn them into CAB files. Is that what you do?
Also gotta find out how to extract CAB files from desktop Windows .EXE installers... I know that's around here somewhere...

EWAdams said:
I have to find all the keys that my applications set in the registry, too, and turn them into CAB files. Is that what you do?
Also gotta find out how to extract CAB files from desktop Windows .EXE installers... I know that's around here somewhere...
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For the registry entries, yes, you can convert to .cabs, or -- with Silent UC, at least -- just save/export them as .reg files and it will put them where they're supposed to go when it runs on the new rom.
Winrar or 7zip will open/extract .exe files and if there's a .cab inside you can get it that way.

shaolin95 said:
Well, it may use more memory as you say but the end result is the same to me, a better looking , faster, snappier phone so more or less memory, it still beats the crap out of my previous configuration.
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Actually, I find it also uses a lot more battery as well.
The latest NRG ROM goes below 60 MB available RAM when loaded with the programs I use. That isn't enough if one is going to use Opera 9.7 as a browser for any length of time.
Of course, it depends on what your particular likes/dislikes are, and the things which matter to you. That is the nice thing about burning ROMs - there are so many from which to choose.

stevedebi said:
Actually, I find it also uses a lot more battery as well.
The latest NRG ROM goes below 60 MB available RAM when loaded with the programs I use. That isn't enough if one is going to use Opera 9.7 as a browser for any length of time.
Of course, it depends on what your particular likes/dislikes are, and the things which matter to you. That is the nice thing about burning ROMs - there are so many from which to choose.
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Indeed...always nice to have choices.

I am addicted to the Energy Roms, they work the best for me and I tend to stick with the Titanium based roms without any Sense. Not because I don't like the Sense UI, but because the Titanium roms are so much more snappy and the battery life is fantastic.

[Q] ROM Options

I'm sure there's some thread somewhere about this, but I haven't found one after searching quite a while.
What ROMs are people using for Windows Mobile before loading XDAndroid? Searching Android Rom doesn't seem to work very well and I've tried several other options.
I'm looking for a lighter rom, but I'd like to have 6.5.3 so when I can't use XDAndroid (like when I need speakerphone or camera) then I'll still have a system I like.
If there's already a thread somewhere for this sorry, please point me at it.

There's been some debate about whether or not the ROM effects Android at all. I'm of the belief that the particular ROM you're running has NO bearing on Android whatsoever. There are others who say differently... But I've run the "lightest" ROM possible - basically boots WinMo enough to immeidately kick off Haret...and I found no difference in performance.
This was on my original TP, but the concept should be the same.
So, I just run EnergyROM. But, try it out - let us know what you think. Install a light ROM and see if there's a difference... I don't think there is, and the placebo effect plays very greatly into this without some hard numbers on performance differences. Since WinMo is booted out of memory, I honestly don't think the ROM effects Android at all.

I was thinking more along the lines of space still left in storage, but depending on how the roms are done and how much you install I guess the rom isn't a huge difference.

zharptitza said:
I was thinking more along the lines of space still left in storage, but depending on how the roms are done and how much you install I guess the rom isn't a huge difference.
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Hrm... Either I'm misundertsanding you, or you're misunderstood
Android runs entirely off of the SD card presently. So whatever space is leftover from flashing the ROM, it won't really matter... because currently Android doesn't touch the space that a WinMo ROM takes up. Make sense?

Using Energy Rom here and the reefer BLAZIN build runs great parallel to it. Although I also believe The winMo rom you are running makes no difference.

arrrghhh said:
Hrm... Either I'm misundertsanding you, or you're misunderstood
Android runs entirely off of the SD card presently. So whatever space is leftover from flashing the ROM, it won't really matter... because currently Android doesn't touch the space that a WinMo ROM takes up. Make sense?
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This is not entirely true that it has no effect. On the HD2 it really matters what kind of winmo rom you use. Don't ask me why, but with some winmo roms you hear a robot voice when calling.
So it could be possible that it also has some effect on our tp2, but I don't think that is the case for us because I never heard anyone about it.

Lennyz1988 said:
This is not entirely true that it has no effect. On the HD2 it really matters what kind of winmo rom you use. Don't ask me why, but with some winmo roms you hear a robot voice when calling.
So it could be possible that it also has some effect on our tp2, but I don't think that is the case for us because I never heard anyone about it.
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Are you talking about the NAND bootloader for the HD2 or the SD card haret method...?
Besides, I've never experienced anything like this, and I tried A TON of ROMs on my TP1 to figure out if there was any difference. My conclusion was there was no difference. Granted WinMo initializes some things for Android, so it is still necessary, and some settings within WinMo will affect Android... but I don't think the ROM itself whether it's light or heavy will affect the performance of Android. I assume that's what we're talking about...

Slight OT but i just need to ask.....if i do finally get Android to run on my TP2 and it boots up fine. Assuming i install 10 applications from market. After i do a reboot, would the apps and it's setting stay? Or will i get a fresh android OS again?

Scann69 said:
Slight OT but i just need to ask.....if i do finally get Android to run on my TP2 and it boots up fine. Assuming i install 10 applications from market. After i do a reboot, would the apps and it's setting stay? Or will i get a fresh android OS again?
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You'll only get a "fresh" Android OS if you delete your data.img file. So yes, the apps will stay

I've ran Stock Verizon ROM and Mighty ROM. No difference when Android is booted since HARET unloads the memory space WinMo is using.

coolsilver said:
I've ran Stock Verizon ROM and Mighty ROM. No difference when Android is booted since HARET unloads the memory space WinMo is using.
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try energy titanium. really you wont notice much difference tho. but homeboys right, placebo effect could help ya out

[Q] WMO or Android?

i would like to post this thread to ask all the PRO here,
what would u pick if i ask you to just select one OS for ur Ralph?
WinMo?
Android 2.2?
i am seriously thinking to change it from WinMo.
what do you think?

myself will be switching perm to android on my raph very soon as progress has moved forward alot on it only a couple things like camera and battery life ..but from what i understand they may be close to working and fixed

meego for opengles v2
But seriously android.
but yeah seriously i dont know anyone whos tried android and wants to go back to slow crappy winmo.

I can totally agree on it!
From the early stage of kaiser android development, even with almost nothing working, it was still better then winmo. Now kaiser is working cometely and its way better then winmo.
Im not using my touch pro as a phone right now (primarilly because of battery life), but as soon as thats fixed its donating time again and switching to android on touch pro.
Does anyone know the progress on nand for touch pro (and could the same menu from kaiser be used for it to install?)?
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

As soon as Android is flashable - it's bye-bye WinMo for me...

Once camera is working and better battery management levels are obtainable on my touch pro, i won't be going back. I already love everything about android and the games and apps i've been using.
OH, and my whole data signal just stopping after some time for no reason, even though my sprint APN still shows and is checked.

how about run on system memory
anyone know the diff between running the android from memory or from the system memory, will we gain extra speed if we use the system to run?
and will that damage the winmo OS if so?
thanks in advance.
p.s. the launcher pro is expired and i want to install a new one but it will need me to remove/uninstall the previous one.
i try the "application manager" in "settting" but i can't select the "uninstall"
any expert can teach me how?
million thanks in advance.

It's not Ralph, it's Raph
But seriously, I prefer Android more. I use it daily and it rocks!

djdafreund said:
Once camera is working and better battery management levels are obtainable on my touch pro, i won't be going back. I already love everything about android and the games and apps i've been using.
OH, and my whole data signal just stopping after some time for no reason, even though my sprint APN still shows and is checked.
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Use viruscrazy's kernel regarding the battery management issue.

gm112 said:
Use viruscrazy's kernel regarding the battery management issue.
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Yeah, i've been highly following and testing viruscrazy's kernel, and it's awesome compared to stock, but he even mentioned you can't use his stuff along with the newest 2.2 (sept.16 release) since there are lot's of new differences that would cause problems. But until then, his stuff does make a huge difference in properly registering battery level's (within 10% tolerance on my touch pro at least, much better even on other devices.)

Bluetooth also needs some work. I'm not sure the FM radio works in Android.

i'm kinda noobie here..
Are all the application we can use in android can also be use in xdandroids?

mizu_ai said:
i'm kinda noobie here..
Are all the application we can use in android can also be use in xdandroids?
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Eh, for the most part... Not every app will work guaranteed tho. Just try it out, let us know how it works...
I don't get why you posted this question in this thread tho!

wow, i´m really excited to read this posts! i've had my raph for 2 days now and i am really happy with it already flashed winmo 6.5 but i'm really anxious to try out android

I have a question. I have a brand new never activated or used sealed touch pro that I'm thinking about opening and activating just so I can use android on it. But I wanna know is the phone going to have the same battery over heating and freezing issues if I'm using android as if when wm is used. Is those problems os related of phone hardware related?
if so I rather use android on the touch vogue if I'm going have the same over heating issues on the touch tiamond andtouch pro. Or just use wm on my yreo pro.

AL_CAPONE_X3 said:
I have a question. I have a brand new never activated or used sealed touch pro that I'm thinking about opening and activating just so I can use android on it. But I wanna know is the phone going to have the same battery over heating and freezing issues if I'm using android as if when wm is used. Is those problems os related of phone hardware related?
if so I rather use android on the touch vogue if I'm going have the same over heating issues on the touch tiamond andtouch pro. Or just use wm on my yreo pro.
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Vogue port is basically complete as I understand it. Can't guarantee you won't have issues on your TP. This devices port isn't quite done yet...

the statistical numbers are: winmo:21 vs android 46.
Well, have to say people came to this thread since they like android and use android daily, so the testing result may not be true. It should be more correct by making this survey on the first Fuze discussion site (let Fuze winmo users and android users vote together), just my $.02
For me, 1st Fuze is a phone, dialing effect, talking time and standby time are the most important things to me; 2nd it is an email receiver, web browser; 3rd it is a GPS; 4th, a toy that I can play (games or a brick I can throw )
Android has smoother touch feeling and nicer looking, but for the short battery life and no camera fixed, I will still using my winmo for now.

Windows mobile.
Android is still lacking.. touch screen issues, camera. Our devices dont have a compass. So none of the augmented reality programs will run on our phone.
Ive never been able to get the touch screen to work to my liking. Ive done the touch configuration literally 100s of times. The screen is still off when i touch it. (holding down an icon to move/delete can be very frustrating)
I use Android to play a few media apps (iheartradio) that we just dont have on WM. Other than that, I boot back to WM.

[Q] I am new to flashing ROM, but my phone isn't.

I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.

Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.

Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated

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Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.

What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?

ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.

What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?

USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.

Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.

It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.

Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.

How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!

haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.

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Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.

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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!

redpoint73 said:
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.

Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.

[Q] How is android supposed to run?

I have tried both a Froyo variant and a Gingerbread variant on my Diamond but for me its not usable at all .. It lockups every 30 seconds for like 1 minute. Just when my devices screen goes black i am barely able to turn it back on again.
Now im not complaining about the devs work here, dont take it that way.. I just want to know if its supposed to run this way or if its something i do wrong?

Da9L said:
I have tried both a Froyo variant and a Gingerbread variant on my Diamond but for me its not usable at all .. It lockups every 30 seconds for like 1 minute. Just when my devices screen goes black i am barely able to turn it back on again.
Now im not complaining about the devs work here, dont take it that way.. I just want to know if its supposed to run this way or if its something i do wrong?
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try to install android rom on your device's internal storage and use GenYDualBoot to be able to run it from windows !

Hakim Rahman said:
try to install android rom on your device's internal storage and use GenYDualBoot to be able to run it from windows !
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Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.

Lipinsky said:
Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.
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I have two 2 months applying it to my Htc diamond {dual boot = Eto.Y 2.4a WWE + XDAndroid FRX07.1 (on internal storage)}

Lipinsky said:
Is it usable on a day to day basis or is it still heavily in development? Can't find that much information on it to be honest.
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The usability has definitely increased over the years but it is still more a concept than a real operating system as the hardware and software dont work together very well. This is because there are no official kernels, drivers or anything provided by HTC. The xdandroid team has done an incredible work to get android running on this device, but they couldnt find a way to properly get android on the NAND because the storage is too small. Thats also why you have to start it via windows mobile and cant directly boot to it, it runs out of the SD Card. So you will never achieve a nice performance as long as the OS isnt located on the NAND. The lags and force closes you are certainly experiencing derive from this problem. The device itself would definitely have the power to run android at an acceptable performance.
As far as I know the development has ceased. If you search the corresponding threads you will find the statement of the devs. Here is were you can look:
Froyo, Gingerbread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981
Froyo 07: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951811
Gingerbread 0A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692
wiki: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page
blog: http://southcape.org/category/android/

yeah development seems to be halted, its nice to play with, but not as main os for day to day use