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htc sence

heres a question for yall, i am coming over from my beloved touch pro and i was wondering is there a way to install htc sence on this device even though its a motorola device. i have grown to really and love sence, or is there something close to that out there?
-rastlin

Launcherpro (just download in market for free) is awsome...and not much different from what I remember from my Hero in 2009.

not without a rom. I don't know of any available. What did you like about sense that you're looking for?
There is also helix launcher
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i liked the live animated weather that was in the background. i have it on my raphel and i like watching it. sorry for the responce time i have been rather busy though
-rastlin

hopefully the defy will get the attention of some serious Dev's and Chef's. I'm currently on a G2 but have been keeping my eye on this Defy as a work phone. The price has dropped and we have root and recovery so I may pick one up. Would be nice to have a OEM Htc port of sense

Honeycomb Porting

Hi please remove this if it is not in the right place. Ok so i was in the Magic forum and i found that they have a Honeycomb rom in the making. Since the Magic has a mdpi screen i thought it would be nice to port it on to our Silde. Now with that in mind is there a dev out there that may want to guide me through the porting process? I have permission by the dev of the original rom to port it once it comes out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974038

Thats possible? I thought the core of honeycomb was built to run on tablets purely
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I thought that too but devs started to ported to HDPI phones like the N1 and NS but I didn't think I see on our MDPI phones until I came over this thread... hopefully someone can help me port it over
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but the slide's screen is micro sized compared to a tablet.
any phone, for that matter doesn't have the proper screen real estate to take advantage of honeycomb features
maybe the dell streak. maybe....

I agree, 3.0 was designed as a tablet OS, not a phone OS.
Like the post above me says, no phone really has the resolution to take advantage of things like tabbed browsing and other tablet features, at least not efficiently or realistically. Plus, seeing as most tablets are at LEAST 800 mhz, most being 1 GHz or more, it probably would run slower than froyo and gingerbread on our phones. It probably would use a lot more RAM/CPU/GPU resources, making the whole system overall laggier. I think it might be cool to have a honeycomb ROM, but honestly, it's not very practical, it may not be worth it.

You may have a point but I'm doing it to support the Slide community which is slowly being traded for other phones... plus I think ill be pretty cool to run honeycomb on my Slide
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Yeah it would be cool, and it would be an addition to a slow community. Go for it, if it can be built for the magic, surely it can run on our phones, seeing as our phones are from a later generation of android devices than the dream/magic/sapphire.

Im just asking for some assistance considering that dev skills have not been developed yet and was hoping that this task would help me there.

izzy001 said:
You may have a point but I'm doing it to support the Slide community which is slowly being traded for other phones...
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lol, i just joined the slide community last week.
and i'm here to stay. go for it!

This is vid of it on G1...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded

Guys it is more like a proof of concept. It will be fun to run it to show off or to look at honeycomb but I'm sure it is not meant to be a daily driver for any phone. I would love a HoneyComb ROM and I could test it for you (I know adb, fastboot, and I can get logcat for you if needed).
If it can run on G1 I bet it can run on our slide (I'm not saying full speed but at a decent speed to mess with the ROM)

If it can run on G1, it will be much smoother on Slide because we have a better CPU and a much better GPU than G1 has. And we also have 320Mbs more RAM.

I have to wait till they release the alpha rom so that i can start messing with it

[Q] Any Rumours of a Desire Z Revision for 2011? Anything with a Keyboard?

So is HTC going to release even one GSM device with a landscape QWERTY in 2011 or not?
Will there be a revision of the Desire Z like several other models have had recently? (I can't imagine they could keep it under wraps this long but I can hope.)
I would like it with:
- 5 row and slide/tilt like the HTC 7 Pro
- slightly larger screen (4" is fine)
- lighter (180g is stupid heavy)
- slightly thinner
- keep the optical trackpad
- multi-colour led for notifications
- keep the dedicated camera key
- Updated internals to 1Ghz CPU, 1MB RAM, Better Camera
Not asking much. Lets see it HTC.
This had to easily be one of your best selling phones so where's the update?
Anyone agree?

Yes !!!!
A dual core should be fine too

Mytouch 4g Slide?
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The myTouch 4G is the sucessor to the myTouch 3G which was more like a HTC Magic with a sliding keyboard where the Desire Z was like a Desire with a keyboard.
Or maybe you just meant that it's a keyboard phone to launch in 2011?
Either way that phone is CDMA only so far as we know now. (And one of the uggliest phones ever made)

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Either way that phone is CDMA only so far as we know now. (And one of the uggliest phones ever made)
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Um... what? the MT4G Slide is on TMobile, which is GSM, the entire MyTouch line is owned by T-mob.

phoenix79 said:
Um... what? the MT4G Slide is on TMobile, which is GSM, the entire MyTouch line is owned by T-mob.
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Correct!
And I was just giving you a GSM, HTC made keyboard phone coming out in 2011. As far as a g3 or something like that, there is no word.
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Um... what? the MT4G Slide is on TMobile, which is GSM, the entire MyTouch line is owned by T-mob.
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My mistake. I thought it was CDMA.
I really hope we start to hear some leaks on something launching before the end of this year.
Unlikely anything will launch before November if there's hasn't been any leaks yet though.

HTC: Sense is better than stock android

Bwhahahahahaha
http://blog.laptopmag.com/htc’s-sense-guru-stock-android-4-0-just-not-good-enough
Thought you guys might need a good laugh today

Gotta appreciate the confidence.
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"According to Drew Bamford, HTC’s AVP of user experience...."

When I read this article I'm reminded of what it sounds like when the teacher is talking to charlie brown.
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well is the same as every mother thinks his ugly kid is the most beautiful in the world

He says,
"There are some subtleties to our design that I think make an improvement over the ICS design. For example, when you press that recent apps button, the current app zooms out and then moves over to the right so that the one that’s in the center was the previous app. And then probably 80 percent of the cases, at least, you’re switching to the most recent app, the previous app, and in that case ***you just press right in the center and there you are. So it actually optimizes for that most common case of going to the most recent application.***"
Huh. Kinda like with stock ICS where the last app is right in the bottom right where my thumb already is?

Yes I agree, HTC Sense is better then stock Android. I bought Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus sucks....One S/X is much better

kolyan said:
Yes I agree, HTC Sense is NOT better than stock Android. I bought the Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus is awesome....One S/X is terrible....
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I fixed your post for you .
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kolyan said:
Yes I agree, HTC Sense is better then stock Android. I bought Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus sucks....One S/X is much better
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Good for you. CM9/AOKP are based off of Stock(and look very much like stock from what I've seen). Personally, Sense has always seemed like it tried to hard to look "elegant", but came out looking cartoonish. The added features didn't really seem all great either. Mind you, this is from my experience with the HTC Rezound. Plus, simple tasks like changing a ringtone was awkward and didn't work well. They never stuck.
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The recent apps window in Sense 4 is One (heh) of the few features I genuinely dislike about it.
A key point of the menu is to access apps you have been previously using. As the article says, In Sense 4, you can see one full app screen, and the edges of the two on either side. In stock ICS you get four full apps shown. Sure, HTC's one looks nice, but it's far less practical, regardless of what the guy who designed it claims. Add some fancy reflections to the stock ICS and it'd look every bit as flashy, too.
And don't get me started on white menu backgrounds. They look nasty, and now I can't use them in the dark without going blind!
The guy even says they didn't have long to tinker with it. Google, on the other hand, has been iterating this UI for a long time. They didn't just make a utilitarian, functional UI at the last minute to get ICS out the door. The fuss they made over Roboto should tell you that much.

Coming off of 3 years of using Sense (had the Hero, Evo 4G and Evo 3D), Sense is nice to look at--but if you want a quicker, more streamlined experience, then stock Android is the way to go. I missed it way too much after I got rid of my G1 a couple years back.
Stock ICS > Sense 4.0.

Coming from a sensation 4g using ARHD, there are a few sense features that google should pick up on.
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well he does work for HTC, so I could imagine they are proud of their work, it is the prettiest overlay for android and its has some useful widgets

Reading off of many reviews about Sense 4 (particularly The Verge's) many say that it does not bring anything new to the table that stock ICS already has.
Plus, many of the things Sense has can be implemented via third-party apps anyways. I never understood their need to insert their proprietary software in the device. Seems so limited and closed. Part of the reason why I hated Sense 3/3.5 on my EVO 3D.

IMHO, Sense was relevant and useful prior to ICS. Now, it just looks dated.
I appreciated sense on my Dinc but would never install a rom with Sense 4.0 on my Gnex.

Sense influenced the evolution of android back in its pioneering days. Since google hired Mathias duarte from webos to apple-ify the interface to make it more elegant and intuitive, there's no need for sense. I wish that these companies would just stick to proprietary apps or something for differentiation rather than screwing with the os. The only thing lacking from ics stock is pull down toggles and customize able nav bar icons. Aokp and some others solve that without ruining ics.
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What made sense amazing however is what it did for windows phone before android came out or just after. It actually made that crap useable.
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Jayrod1980 said:
What made sense amazing however is what it did for windows phone before android came out or just after. It actually made that crap useable.
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Ahhh....
*reminisces about Touchflo3D days*

chlehqls said:
Reading off of many reviews about Sense 4 (particularly The Verge's) many say that it does not bring anything new to the table that stock ICS already has.
Plus, many of the things Sense has can be implemented via third-party apps anyways. I never understood their need to insert their proprietary software in the device. Seems so limited and closed. Part of the reason why I hated Sense 3/3.5 on my EVO 3D.
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Marketing, that'd the only idea i can think of why the manufactures put it on, if they all ran vanilla (oh what a world it would be) they just pick thier style and run with it to separate themselves from other Android phones
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Isn't it true that having an HTC phone means, if you root, that you always have the choice of stock android or sense? Something any other phone lacks.

[Q] DEVS: Port a Port from DHD?

Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?

Circular Pastry said:
Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?
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A 3.0 Linux kernel is still needed to further progress on a sense 4 port
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Yup currently, only the_plattypus is working on a 3.0 kernel for his sense 4 rom. Im sure we would have one, but the evo is a 2+ year old device and everyone has moved onto the latest and greatest. Sense 4a should be the smoothest sense version on the evo since it only requires 512 ram and a 1 ghz processor, other than sense 1.0. I wish i knew how to build a 3.0 kernel, since i really wanted to use sense 4 and i have this phone till april next year... Im sure the evo 4g section will be pretty dead by then...

thanks for the responses! I guess we'll see what happens.
Still some life in my G1! I'm hoping someone gets it going,
or maybe I'll dig into the os more than I have in the past...

I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.

Fangstien said:
I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.
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It's not about the res. It's about the drivers and kernel. New drivers need to be written from scratch as well as the 3.0 kernel.
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