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Hey guys,what's up?
So...I am running AuraxTSense 8.0 on my phone and have made an ext4 about 600Mb partition for Apps2SD.Recently I installed Pocket Legends on my phone along with some other games and all was ok.However,yesterday I tried to update Pocket Legends from the Market and it said that there is limited space on my phone and it cannot update.I then checked in my settings and I had 23 Mb free on my phone.I tried moving all apps to SD with Titanium Backup(excluding Launchers and widgets) and it persists that I only have that much space.What is going on?
Also,when choosing to install apps on external storage in Spare Parts,does it mean Apps2SD+ partition or froyo Apps2SD?
C'mon,no one yet?
tolis626 said:
C'mon,no one yet?
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i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
AndroHero said:
i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
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Yeah,I know.You're using the data2SD thing.I've seen you in that thread.Bastard!
I however am using the good old apps2ext,with an ext4 partition.What about that?
Thanks for the reply btw!
I've been having much the same problem.
It would seem that no matter how many apps I move to the SD card, I don't actually get all that more free space on the phone.
A 'df' in the terminal shows me that I've got plenty of space in /system, but /data is nearly full. Nearly half of that is in /data/dalvik-cache.
So I wiped the dalvik cache from recovery and now it's okay again.. for the time being.
Maybe PocketLegends requires a lot of space in /data? Or something was wrong with the update?
ok guys heres the deal, when you use apps2sd what is does is create a symlink between /data/app/, the dalvik-cache and the ext partition on your sd card. the downside of this method is, /data/data/ remains on your phone, /data/data. holds all your settings, app data and other things, and this is where your space is going, one great way for s-off users to improve there situations, is to change the MTD Partitions on there device, basically taking space from /system and /cache and adding this to /data, you can reclaim and extra 50mb+ using this method
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
martijn_bakker said:
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
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if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
AndroHero said:
if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
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I'd say it's easier to use the data2sd trick
Absolutely..
WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
martijn_bakker said:
Absolutely..
WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
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You should refrain from making a partition bigger than 2GB for DATA2SD. Issues have been reported, specially with market.
Read thoroughly the DATA2SD thread to gather all informations
...and by safe I really mean a logical, usable size for caches etc. In example, a size which wouldn't give me problems when, I'm browsing in "heavy" websites, downloading through marketplace, or receiving messages and emails.
Since I got my desire and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, I've started installing apps like there's no tomorrow. Naturally, most of them I just try and discard, but a lot of them I just keep on my phone even if I use them once a week, or even once a month. With A2SD enabled, I currently have a whopping 188 apps installed. I think they will soon classify a psychiatric condition named after me. That leaves me with around 25mb left in Internal storage, and around 20mb remaining in A2SD.
On my Touch Pro, again, with a [censored]load of apps installed, I usually left around 30mb of free memory, just for various caches. Would it be wise to do the same for android, or should I just wait for the "low space" notification to start clearing things out?.
So I'm wondering. How much free storage you guys have on your desire? And how much would you consider it would be wise to leave free. Would a full-featured site use more than, say 10mb of cache? Would we ever need more than 10mb of cache for mail or messages? Any other serious disadvantages of having an -almost full- internal storage space?
(I already got brut mod for google maps, so maps cache ain't a problem)
Sorry for the long post and possibly needless question... insomnia at it's best
akpidis said:
... How much free storage you guys have on your desire?
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Hit the wall today...
became unstable ..
trouble getting data connections (good reception area)
Camera app not connecting to camera
slow
Down to 8MB internal free !! (cachemate only freed additional 2MB)
214 apps ;-)
A2SD(+) 1.24 GB free / 1.92GB total
Time to delete apps now
Need a better a2sd(+) or bigger phone !
Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed, we Desire users are going to have to get used to doing a hard reset every month or so. Currently have 85mb of phone storage left after a hard reset last week. Before that I was down to 12Mb.
130MB using SuperVillain. I only have around 25 apps though.
Leave 10% or more free. Less than 10% will cause things to start breaking.
memory
hi guys iv got about 110 apps or so and still got 305mb mem on my desire and thats internal memory buy using data2sd very good the only problems i got is my phone crashes and freezes now and again thing its my sd card so is going to try another
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
WARNING, dont get it wrong.
The new Nexus S indeed has 16GB memory ...
But only 1GB for internal memory where you can use to install app.
It has 13 GB as "emulated SD card".
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868772
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I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
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That's still a lot of apps to be stored in 1GB! If that guy up there fit 200ish apps in around our 140MB of space with A2SD+, then theoretically you could put like nearly 1000 apps on the nexus S!
Ah I see...I take that back then!
How comes Apple can do it with their phones but none that are running Android can?? Is it simply a cost thing?
It's obviously apparent that many Android users are installing apps/games mounting way over 500MB.
Got data2ext and have 1.7GB free. I left some directories on the internal storage and created some links. I have to say it working pretty well. Almost no performance lost. Only noticed performance issue while playing asphalt hd.
But the internal storage of nexus s is a step forward. But still more improvement needed. Once they fix those storage issues we will get greater and bigger apps.
R
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paulgun said:
214 apps ;-)
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down to only 172 apps (29 MB internal free)...
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
I suspect knowing what to leave to have a minimal system is the trick?
Can I boot with 0 system apps installed ?
I'm thinking "why not" , I can use the command line adb , so I don't think
I even need a gui or fileexplorer app at all ?
Will think about it when the latest LeeDroid has stablised... TBA
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
I've the official last Froyo Update (I only rooted it with unrevoked and substituted the recovery but the ROM is the official one), and I've set on SD card all the apps that permit it.
Yes I know that I must install app2sd and I'm shure I will do it soon, but that is not the point.
The point is: please, someone can explain to me where I'm wrong in my calculations, or what bug or know issue I'm missing?
spile wrote: "Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed..." but again: even this search lead me to an endless list of topics in wich someone say: "Hey my contacts storage on HTC Desire is 40MB, how's that? " and someone other: "Use apps2sd 'cause HTC is bad".
Worst: that's not my case, my contacts storage state 3MB.
Again I know that in a way or another I'm ending this with apps2sd, but again I say it's not my point: my point is I want to undestand where is the problem and, most of all, if complaining directly to HTC is a waste o time that put me as the last one in a row of people condemned to ***** about HTC Desire's memory for the rest of their's life
Sorry for the long rant but I've done my search (at least I've tried, maybe I missed that one topic of revelations) and I want to put all the informations on the table so to not waste more time of yours ^^;;;
Thanks anyway
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HTC Desire, software version: 2.29.405.2, rooted with unrevoked 3.
paulgun said:
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
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On second thoughts, it appears freeing space in /system,
won't really help /data much, so this would not help:
androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-2.html#post1952939
sh500 said:
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
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After trying a dozen other things, I'd have to agree...
forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598676#r2
Hit another wall today...
215+apps ;-)
A small number of apps won't install, even though >1GB internal free
using data2sd method.
talking-santa-free
raging-thunder-2-lite
The logs show it failed due to internal space
Perhaps /cache is too small now ?
im using my own cooked rom, and have atleast 300 apps installed, and i have 58mb free internal storage with 22mb cache partition, 190mb system partition and 222mb data partition
100mb free after 144 apps installed. Have N1table for data partition of 200mb. And app2sd helps a bit. No need for data2ext
Teleported from my brain cells
I've installed about 20mb of apps (fb @ 4.8mb, music app 5mb, rest = 10x<1mb apps w/ no cache usage) yet still only have about 14mb. Somehow I'm missing 100mb ish on a RUU'd Desire. Annoying.
Cirunz said:
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
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It did not vanish, the 365 mb is used by android system files and other stuff HTC throws into the phone. In theory, we only have 140+ mb to install apps.
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Hello, I seem to be having a common problem, but so far no solutions have worked:
When initially downloading or updating a large app (Iron Man digital comic, Temple Run, Where's my Water, etc.) in the Google Play Store, I get the error "Insufficient Space on the Device". However, when I check my free space, I have more than enough space on the system rom, internal space, and internal and external SD cards. Regarding the common solutions, I have tried wiping the cache and data on my play store and download manager apps, wiping cache and dalvik cache, and even using both wifi and cell connections. Oddly enough, I was able to download the Iron Man digital comic over the amazon app store (which doesn't help me with the apps requiring updates through Google Play).
For reference, I am using Calk's EL29 v2.9.2 rom with the EL29 radio and standard kernel.
Thank you for your help in advance.
unmount sd card, install apps, remount sd
I'm still trying to find a fix for this... been having this insufficient space issue for weeks now.
.Do like dices said and un mount sd card then download. If that doesn't work, back up your data and format your sd. Then return data and download.
If you've installed the programs before try sd maid from the store. Check for 'corpses' and remove.
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Finally
None of the above solutions worked for me. I had to go and free up a gig of internal space... yes, internal space not sd card space.. so I could install and update large apps. When I was getting the insufficient space error I had..
800+ megs internal space
3.51 gigs on internal sd card
1.75 gigs on external sd
I tried remounting installing app and remounting, clearing play store cache, uninstalling market updates, and wiping davlik cache with no results.
So basically free up a buttload of internal space to get rid of the "insufficient space" error code from Google Play.
Hope this helps somebody from pulling their hair out like I did... wait, I dont have any hair
Thank you for all of your help to posted. I was able to download and update the apps previously mentioned only by unmounting, removing, and rebooting my phone. However, now I'm still having the same problem. I have even tried the SD maid app, freeing up internal memory space to nearly 2GB, and even redownloading and re-applying the rom, with no success. In addition, I now randomly get a "package file is invalid" message.
Since the only resolution that worked involved removing the SD card, I'm assuming the SD card is the culprit. However, I can't do that every time I need to update an app. I'm also assuming that backing up, reformatting, and reloading everything onto the card would leave me with the same issues. Does anyone know what the actual root cause is and how to permanently fix it?
Thank you in advance.
@ op next time just uninstall titanium backup if you have it installed, then reinstall it and should fix your problem.
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i had this issue a few weeks ago. In my situation, juice defender was somehow conflicting with my rom and giving me that error. I uninstalled juice defender and everything was fine
Hi ,
This morning I had the same issue with my phone.
I tryed all sort of things and nothing worked.
What did work at the end was to boot in recovery menu and clear the cache and the dalvik cache as well.
Boot back on (slow to start as it has to rebuild the caches) then all worked again, can now install apps.
Most easy fix, if you are rooted and you have a root explorer installed. Just delete the .odex file of that package in your /Data/App folder
or if you are rooted but dont have root explorer,
Open Terminal
Code:
su
cd /data
cd /app
ls
rm (package exact name).odex
It happens that u have previously installed package, u unisntall it but its previous odex stays there. If you do a fresh install again, and odex is corrupted one, you end up in insufficient storage.
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Most easy fix, if you are rooted and you have a root explorer installed. Just delete the .odex file of that package in your /Data/App folder
or if you are rooted but dont have root explorer,
Open Terminal
Code:
su
cd /data
cd /app
ls
rm (package exact name).odex
It happens that u have previously installed package, u unisntall it but its previous odex stays there. If you do a fresh install again, and odex is corrupted one, you end up in insufficient storage.
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This happens on almost all android phones why don't Google just let you choose the option of downloading to your SD card though?
The way I understand it is, only custom roms are privileged to be odexed, and thats why we land into problems.
hi guys
i posted this thread in here because its more like a discussion
so any way
i know that the galaxy nexus is different in the storage thing
u have the full 16GB storage for both apps and media unlike the S2 ( for example ) as there is 2GB only for apps and the rest for the media
any way , my internal storage was almost full when i installed Asphalt 7 iam left with only 650MB and its good cuz i dont need any free space at all ( i like it to be fulled lol )
after 2 days when i woke up i saw in the notification bar "storage is running out " so i didnt care cuz i didnt install any thing nor copy any thing to the device
and i thought it might be a bug after couple of hours will be gone but if didnt and last night i installed some apps via play store and they didnt install because there is insufficient space while there is over 450MB free
its so annoying and it gets to my nerves
why do i have enough space but at the same time i cant do any thing with it cuz all i get is insufficient storage X_X
so is there any way to disable this notification or to edit system lib to get over this or any thing ??
thread is open for discussion
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Maybe some cache are taking up the space. I use app 2 sd to remove cache generated by apps. Give that a try
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maliceomalice said:
Maybe some cache are taking up the space. I use app 2 sd to remove cache generated by apps. Give that a try
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iam not talking about cache files i clean them every while ( i use SD made pro )
iam talking about free space u cant use in ur Gnexus
try to full the storage to be left of with less than 400MB and try to install an app or download a game data and see what will happened
You already said it, I'm pretty shure it's about /sdcard being part of the /data partition. Your phone can use the last ~500 MB, you just can't use it to add more userdata. Otherwise you could run into serious issues if suddenly there would be no more space on /data at all.
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You already said it, I'm pretty shure it's about /sdcard being part of the /data partition. Your phone can use the last ~500 MB, you just can't use it to add more userdata. Otherwise you could run into serious issues if suddenly there would be no more space on /data at all.
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so you are saying that i can use this space as a media data only and there is mo need to edit or change any thing
ok thanks
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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1. Using a "minimal" GApps package will help a little
2. The device has only 150MB internal storage. Even if you use mini Gapps you will not have more than ~80MB
3. To solve the problem just use a rom that is int2ext compatible. 512MB (Will be the new storage amount) is a good and reliable size for the ext partition (If you dont know about setting up the sd for int2ext --> google it as i'm tired of typing instructions for questions that are solved a houndred times...)
4. Stock rom int2ext compatible can be found LINK
5. Want a newer android version? CM 10.1 ran reliable for a long time on my WFS
6. MAKE SURE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING BEFORE FLASHING
7. NEVER MESS UP YOUR GIRL'S DEVICE
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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I would suggest to try this ROM-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50428735&postcount=1404
It's odexed and has a 100 MB free space in /data after installation. BTW you will have to find some slim Gapps from somewhere as it does not have much /system memory free. Flashing Gapps have nothing to do with your visible internal memory. As system apps are stored in system partition(you can't see it as internal memory). And I would suggest to use Link2SD to move apps to 2nd partition of SDCard(you will have to create it but there are good tutorials like-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459 ). With this configuration I have 87 MB free space after installing about 20 apps. So it should work. Best of luck.