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Available phone memory.....

The answer will probably be a yes but I want to make sure.....I partitioned my sd card to free up some hardware space and I ended up with 122mb on device.
My question is, do software updates load onto the phone memory? I flashed a keyboard, radio and icons off the card and now the memory has went down to 102mb.
Thanks in advance,
Paul.
It actually seems to be going down a few mb at a time, thought this **** would end after I binned the BlackBerry..........

You could of searched there is plenty of topics on this ...... when you use apps2sd+, /data/app/ and the dalvik cache are moved to the sd-ext, the /data/data/ directory remains on the device, this directory is used to store all app data, thats why your internal storage goes down
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Yes there is a small amount of internal space still used but not much.
You will be able to install a lot of apps untill you run out of space. Much more than before.
Another trick you could try that I just did is applying the custom MTD partitions mod (do a search in the development thread) and this will give you some more memory to play with (I have 70 apps installed and still have 108MB Free!)

Free internal memory: how much?

...and by safe I really mean a logical, usable size for caches etc. In example, a size which wouldn't give me problems when, I'm browsing in "heavy" websites, downloading through marketplace, or receiving messages and emails.
Since I got my desire and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, I've started installing apps like there's no tomorrow. Naturally, most of them I just try and discard, but a lot of them I just keep on my phone even if I use them once a week, or even once a month. With A2SD enabled, I currently have a whopping 188 apps installed. I think they will soon classify a psychiatric condition named after me. That leaves me with around 25mb left in Internal storage, and around 20mb remaining in A2SD.
On my Touch Pro, again, with a [censored]load of apps installed, I usually left around 30mb of free memory, just for various caches. Would it be wise to do the same for android, or should I just wait for the "low space" notification to start clearing things out?.
So I'm wondering. How much free storage you guys have on your desire? And how much would you consider it would be wise to leave free. Would a full-featured site use more than, say 10mb of cache? Would we ever need more than 10mb of cache for mail or messages? Any other serious disadvantages of having an -almost full- internal storage space?
(I already got brut mod for google maps, so maps cache ain't a problem)
Sorry for the long post and possibly needless question... insomnia at it's best

akpidis said:
... How much free storage you guys have on your desire?
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Hit the wall today...
became unstable ..
trouble getting data connections (good reception area)
Camera app not connecting to camera
slow
Down to 8MB internal free !! (cachemate only freed additional 2MB)
214 apps ;-)
A2SD(+) 1.24 GB free / 1.92GB total
Time to delete apps now
Need a better a2sd(+) or bigger phone !

Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed, we Desire users are going to have to get used to doing a hard reset every month or so. Currently have 85mb of phone storage left after a hard reset last week. Before that I was down to 12Mb.

130MB using SuperVillain. I only have around 25 apps though.

Leave 10% or more free. Less than 10% will cause things to start breaking.

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hi guys iv got about 110 apps or so and still got 305mb mem on my desire and thats internal memory buy using data2sd very good the only problems i got is my phone crashes and freezes now and again thing its my sd card so is going to try another

I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.

WARNING, dont get it wrong.
The new Nexus S indeed has 16GB memory ...
But only 1GB for internal memory where you can use to install app.
It has 13 GB as "emulated SD card".
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868772
sh500 said:
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
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That's still a lot of apps to be stored in 1GB! If that guy up there fit 200ish apps in around our 140MB of space with A2SD+, then theoretically you could put like nearly 1000 apps on the nexus S!

Ah I see...I take that back then!
How comes Apple can do it with their phones but none that are running Android can?? Is it simply a cost thing?
It's obviously apparent that many Android users are installing apps/games mounting way over 500MB.

Got data2ext and have 1.7GB free. I left some directories on the internal storage and created some links. I have to say it working pretty well. Almost no performance lost. Only noticed performance issue while playing asphalt hd.
But the internal storage of nexus s is a step forward. But still more improvement needed. Once they fix those storage issues we will get greater and bigger apps.
R
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paulgun said:
214 apps ;-)
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down to only 172 apps (29 MB internal free)...
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
I suspect knowing what to leave to have a minimal system is the trick?
Can I boot with 0 system apps installed ?
I'm thinking "why not" , I can use the command line adb , so I don't think
I even need a gui or fileexplorer app at all ?
Will think about it when the latest LeeDroid has stablised... TBA

65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
I've the official last Froyo Update (I only rooted it with unrevoked and substituted the recovery but the ROM is the official one), and I've set on SD card all the apps that permit it.
Yes I know that I must install app2sd and I'm shure I will do it soon, but that is not the point.
The point is: please, someone can explain to me where I'm wrong in my calculations, or what bug or know issue I'm missing?
spile wrote: "Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed..." but again: even this search lead me to an endless list of topics in wich someone say: "Hey my contacts storage on HTC Desire is 40MB, how's that? " and someone other: "Use apps2sd 'cause HTC is bad".
Worst: that's not my case, my contacts storage state 3MB.
Again I know that in a way or another I'm ending this with apps2sd, but again I say it's not my point: my point is I want to undestand where is the problem and, most of all, if complaining directly to HTC is a waste o time that put me as the last one in a row of people condemned to ***** about HTC Desire's memory for the rest of their's life
Sorry for the long rant but I've done my search (at least I've tried, maybe I missed that one topic of revelations) and I want to put all the informations on the table so to not waste more time of yours ^^;;;
Thanks anyway
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HTC Desire, software version: 2.29.405.2, rooted with unrevoked 3.

paulgun said:
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
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On second thoughts, it appears freeing space in /system,
won't really help /data much, so this would not help:
androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-2.html#post1952939

sh500 said:
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
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After trying a dozen other things, I'd have to agree...
forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598676#r2

Hit another wall today...
215+apps ;-)
A small number of apps won't install, even though >1GB internal free
using data2sd method.
talking-santa-free
raging-thunder-2-lite
The logs show it failed due to internal space
Perhaps /cache is too small now ?

im using my own cooked rom, and have atleast 300 apps installed, and i have 58mb free internal storage with 22mb cache partition, 190mb system partition and 222mb data partition

100mb free after 144 apps installed. Have N1table for data partition of 200mb. And app2sd helps a bit. No need for data2ext
Teleported from my brain cells

I've installed about 20mb of apps (fb @ 4.8mb, music app 5mb, rest = 10x<1mb apps w/ no cache usage) yet still only have about 14mb. Somehow I'm missing 100mb ish on a RUU'd Desire. Annoying.

Cirunz said:
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
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It did not vanish, the 365 mb is used by android system files and other stuff HTC throws into the phone. In theory, we only have 140+ mb to install apps.
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[Q] Low in internal space, even though internal memory available.

Hi all,
Running a bit low on storage space at the moment.
In settings it says that I have 66mb internal mem free for apps but when I try to download and install an app like Google goggles (roughly 5 mb) it says internal memory low
Cleared cache on Google Play store and dalvik cache using supercharger (if that helps) but that didn't help... any suggestions?
On another note, if I install link2sd does my stock kernel ICS .562 support a ext4 partition?
Cheers!

Im getting the same issue here. Im running Official ICS and have deleted the bloatware and un-needed system apps.
My internal says 56mb but cant install apps without deleting one or two that i dont use or move to sd.

adielee said:
Hi all,
Running a bit low on storage space at the moment.
In settings it says that I have 66mb internal mem free for apps but when I try to download and install an app like Google goggles (roughly 5 mb) it says internal memory low
Cleared cache on Google Play store and dalvik cache using supercharger (if that helps) but that didn't help... any suggestions?
On another note, if I install link2sd does my stock kernel ICS .562 support a ext4 partition?
Cheers!
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Try a RAM/cache cleaner from the market, there are a few free good ones. And yes, ext4 is supported.

Sceptical of so many memory "fixes" I did grab one for the market, Memory Booster Lite (Tablet) by Imoblife Inc. I thought I don't need more menory I need more space, was down to 37 megs out of 252 after moving all I could to SD, and only installed not even 20 apps. After install not even a reboot, back up to 122. I sure hope that some fixes are in the works for ICS updates as the internal memory on my GB 2.3.6 phone is 1.5 gigs and again only 252 megs on my ICS 4.03 tablet. When someone comes up with a way to "partition magic" these parts let me know becasue this is nuts.
Thanks again for the insight as I can now continue to load up my tablet with useless stuff

sinkster said:
Try a RAM/cache cleaner from the market, there are a few free good ones. And yes, ext4 is supported.
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Thanks for your response. I have tried quite a few of these cleaners but they don't really do the job for me. Ram/cache cleaners seem to be temporary and for cache it just builds itself up again after a reboot.
Managed to delete some useless system apps/data which has also sped up my system quite a bit.
I will give the ext4 a try when I get some time.
Cheers,

I also have the same problem but worse I only use about 7 phone only apps roughly 50mb altogether and it says I only got 9% (about 36mb) left.
Last time this happened I wiped my phone, but as the weeks go by the free memory keeps going down even though I don't install anything else.
I currently use zdbox task killer & official Sony rom.
If someone can find a solution to this, please tell.
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i think you can try use ext 2 if problem with ext4..
or you can partition your sd card via recovery, and give swap memory about 256MB..
install link2 sd aplication and then choose ext 2 (first time you open link2sd app)
and reboot your phone..
and from link2sd app you can move all apps to sd card..
you can also make link2sd automatic link your apps..

you should use the app link2sd to solve that problem...

Don't think you understand.. all the apps I installed in the phone should only take about 10% memory including cache etc.
I rooted and pretty much moved every app. The only ones that stayed were for stability reasons such as smart keyboard or beautiful widgets.
Basically only solution I found so far is a hard reset, but after about 4 months it will be back to 9% again.
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[Q]Used Link2sd but internal storage still full?

Yes I chose right format (ext3) on the first start and everything worked fine until now. I only have 8 apps in internal memory and linked 10 others to SD card, which is not many, but my internal memory still gets full. I tried wipe davik-cache and other option in the "More" menu but it could'nt free much space.
Back when I used a2sd on Cm7, I could install as many apps as I wanted but now the number is restricted. I heard that a2sd can cause severe lag on CM10 so I switch to link2sd but I have no idea what went wrong took so much storage like this. Can anyone help me?
BTW I'm using CM10 AOKP by erikas.
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Link2SD does not move app data folder.
Check with Link2SD which app use most space and if it's with data folder or not.

U should link data,apk & dalvik files to sd.
I'm using for a long time with a lot of roms and never had such problem.
Notice that in some roms after a restart dalvik cache move again to internal.(like maclaw roms).
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ItachiSama said:
Link2SD does not move app data folder.
Check with Link2SD which app use most space and if it's with data folder or not.
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How can I check if it's with data folder or not? Below each app's description have some information like "Data: 500KB". I tried clear som app's data but it didnt free much data, only 4MB, and honestly I dont want to clear them
The weird thing is that my ext format is ext 3, but in Storage information there's 1 line telling that /data/sdext2. And when I tried recreating mount script, an error popped out saying that "mount: Device or resource busy. ext3 may not be supported on your device. Try FAT32 on the second partition". Other options failed too. Note that it worked in the first place. After that my ext is unmounted and a reboot mounts it back.
*I checked all options I can in Link2SD settings. I'm feeling jealous to pepple saying that they have lots of free space for apps

Just select all user app and press on "Create link"

Not much internal mem? [GT-l9195 / cyanogenmod 13.0]

Hey guys and girls,
my S4 mini dosn't have alot of internal memory after I flash any of these roms? - I did try google and it said to find and remove the log files mostly (which I have done to no avial)
Is this normal? - Its annoying me because I can only have a few big apps, so I cant have any / many games or I have to uninstall something else?

InFam0us-1985 said:
Hey guys and girls,
my S4 mini dosn't have alot of internal memory after I flash any of these roms? - I did try google and it said to find and remove the log files mostly (which I have done to no avial)
Is this normal? - Its annoying me because I can only have a few big apps, so I cant have any / many games or I have to uninstall something else?
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Depends on what you mean by "doesn't have a lot of internal memory". Give some more details.
Normal the other culprites are also the thumbnail folder (of pictures) delete using an explorer that shows hidden folders (you won't loose your actual pictures), or the LOST.dir, delete that.

It is maybe more general question :
Is there any place where are old firmware files are stored?
My gf S4 is rooted now by me, but before she had questions about update and she never choose yes. I am trying to free up some space as for now it is only 650 MB free on internal. Ofcourse I move all apps ( which was possible) to SD. Clear dalvik cache and cache partition.
It is on stock rom.

@mazak23
/cache
or
/fota
use file explorer with root

well I always Clear dalvik cache and cache partition from recovery before a flash - aswell as system and data? (I forget the names of them)
my internal storage is: 4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb
I dont know what more info you mean tho?

try DiskUsage from the Play Store. It will display how much internal space is used by each app/folder.

You can use flex storage/adaptable storage part of Marshmallow's new feature. You can google it for more. Simply put, you format your micro sd card to make it device specific, from then on it acts as if it's internal storage. Note that you can no longer hotswap the card to another device.

InFam0us-1985 said:
well I always Clear dalvik cache and cache partition from recovery before a flash - aswell as system and data? (I forget the names of them)
my internal storage is: 4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb
I dont know what more info you mean tho?
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4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb seems pretty normal ....... though mine is only about 3.3GB now as all camera & vids are set to save to external storage.
I mean what folders are big, or bigger than you would normally expect. Tap internal storage to show folders or better still use an app like l0tz1009 says so you can find all files and it shows details of how big they are, dates etc
Using settings/storage/ will show very basic info but gives the following. "Apps" this is normally quite big as that's where your apps go, mine takes up about 3GB. "Images", "Video", "Audio" can be big depending how you use your phone & storage (all mine are small as camera saves to my external SD) if any of them are excessive you may need to go through and delete or move photos or whatever. Then you get "other" this should normally be quite small, mine is only 487MB, & also cached data, mine is only 280MB. Sometimes these last two get very big, "other" is where I had the problem with "thumbnails" which were taking up over 2GB. But you might have a rouge app writing big data files or something, if so clear data for all apps or just data for rogue app.
Edit: dalvik, cache etc will not affect your storage partition size as separate partitions.

Dead-end. E said:
You can use flex storage/adaptable storage part of Marshmallow's new feature. You can google it for more. Simply put, you format your micro sd card to make it device specific, from then on it acts as if it's internal storage. Note that you can no longer hotswap the card to another device.
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Think I will invest in a bigger SDcard then
Thanks guys

Thanks too, since I had the same issue but didn't look into it until you'd mentioned it in your post.